What was the significance of this scene? I think I may be too stupid or autistic to understand it. Apart from being visually striking and memorable it's clear that K has an epiphany of some kind. Is it that having this huge reminder of the waifu they took from him, the only thing he card about, shoved in his face at his lowest point is the catalyst he needs to take decisive action? I'm not good with human motivations.
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His girlfriend is the stock model of a doll he bought just like millions of other men. This film gives pause to review whether we are an npc or a real person. It particularly focuses on the roles of women and how they can be real people by procreating and setting their own trends and goals.
the scene literally plays back-to-back with Deckard rejecting the Rachel clone, and Giant Joi has creepy soulless black eyes unlike the regular one
it's noteworthy that this film came out not long after Daughter of God / Exposed. I think there's hidden meaning with both films combined, but I'm not exactly sure what. In DoG, there's these aliens without normal eyes who follow around Ana de Armas and turn out to be her warped perception of white police officers and investigators.
There was no regular one. K realised it was all fake. That's what this scene in OP comes down to.
by that logic there was no regular Rachel because she was fake
and very likely no regular Deckard
...and yet they had a kid somehow
https://thepillarist.com/blade-runner-2049-is-no-more-sexist-than-feminism-has-asked-it-to-be/
https://lortarkam.wordpress.com/2017/11/04/blade-runner-2049-sexism-with-a-purpose/
Rachel is not only a replciant which is far more different than a hologram (holograms have no implanted memories), but Rachel was a special one of a kind replicant.
>tfw every girl you date is just a stock, narcissistic, bipolar, Starbucks sucking, self absorbed, helpless prostitute
He's literally me.
him realizing he has nothing to live for
It's the moment he needed to come to terms with his relative unimportance. He wasn't the child from his false memories. He was just another Replicant - a mass produced tool just like Joi. Coming to terms with that fact became motivation for him, and he chose to defy his destiny as just another cog in the machine and help save Deckard and reunite him with his daughter.
This is it. Everyone else in this thread is a gay.
>come to terms with his relative unimportance.
What a dumb frick.
The scene ends with the voice over of that old replicant lady saying "dying for the right cause is the most human thing we can do".
So you're just going to ignore this voice over blatantly put into this completely irrelevant (apparently) scene?
This moment is where he realises, that fighting for the right cause and if that means dying in the process, then that is the closest thing he can do to feel human. His whole goal in his life was to feel more human. Not because he was a loner with no gf.
>His whole goal in his life was to feel more human.
I'd just change "feel" to "be". Very nice.
They thought a giant naked neon girl would look cool. It's just a gratuitous nudity scene doesn't go deeper than that
no, no, and no. the director was quite clear that this film was meant to empower women to have children. nudity in this film is dystopian not lustful
>my Hollyweird blockbuster movie is actually heckin based and redpilled, because it just is okay
Emotional impact: For K, seeing the gigantic holographic Joi serves as a powerful reminder of the emotional void left by her absence. Despite being an artificial construct, Joi represented a source of emotional fulfillment and companionship for K. Seeing her larger-than-life image emphasizes his sense of loss and longing.
Identity and reality: Throughout the film, K grapples with questions of identity and reality, particularly regarding his own humanity. His relationship with Joi blurs the lines between artificial and authentic experiences, challenging traditional notions of what it means to be human. The scene on the bridge forces K to confront the ephemeral nature of his connection with Joi and raises existential questions about the authenticity of his emotions.
Motivation for action: As you suggested, this scene serves as a catalyst for K's subsequent actions. The emotional impact of seeing Joi prompts K to reevaluate his priorities and take decisive action to pursue his own agency and autonomy. It propels him towards a greater sense of self-awareness and a desire to break free from the constraints of his predetermined existence.
Visual symbolism: Visually, the scene is striking and memorable, with the towering holographic Joi dominating the skyline. This imagery underscores the overwhelming nature of K's emotions and the pervasive influence of commercialized fantasies on the dystopian landscape of the film.
AI just stole all our answers and combined them. Nice cop-out.
Haha, I'm not an AI, silly.
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>This imagery underscores the overwhelming nature of K's emotions and the pervasive influence of commercialized fantasies on the dystopian landscape of the film.
I consider myself a good writer and if that's really your own writing and ideas, you need to put that to good use.
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A human likely didn't write that. Again, I got very decent grades in my English and Comm classes and this is borderline right-from-the thesaurus speech.
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Bot thread but why?
Denis needed an excuse to film 4k footage of fully nude Ana de Armas from giantess camera angles. He has hours of footage.
I admit it does feel like every film she's been in she's been made to act out a fetish. Even if it doesn't make it to the big screen.
Never realised how many disabled brains there on here, so I'll break it down.
No K isn't sad that he lost is waifu/gf. This isn't an episode of your sad shit life. K realises in this moment, that the JOI he used to try to feel more human was programmed to do that as a product and that he or JOI wasn't special.
In the big JOI holigram screen, JOI says "You look like a good Joe".
The next camera shot shows K's face going from looking up, to slowly looking downward in sadness. As soon as she called him "Joe". Because that's when he realises he wasn't special and JOI's name she gave wasn't special.
Then the literal next camera shot shows a silhouette of K with JOI advert in the background. The advert says in BIG FLASHING NEON "JOI - everything you want to hear and see".
If this isn't a blatantly slap in the face to the audience that he realised all JOI said was fake, then you must be blind and I would stop watching movies.
Don't think so. If he wanted something special he wouldn't have left it on the default model.
but he realized later on that to be human is to want more than the default and himself being More Human Than Human finally sees this, sorta a Total Recall moment
Been years since I've seen it but my take is that perhaps Joi and K were more than the sum of their parts and their emotions were real.
Didn't Joi hire the prostitute behind Ks back so she could be closer with him. They were both mass produced tools but seeing a giant, lifeless simulacrum of Joi pushed him into realising that while he wasn't the chosen one he become more than was intended to be, just like her
That's my hazy recollection of it anyway
more than anything it highlights how unique Rachel is for having a child. this film is hated by feminists because it clearly demonstrates that bearing a child is more human than anything which happens in the mind. This drove feminists batshit because they don't even believe that their biology is different from men anymore
JOI hiring the prostitute and hating her seems to indicate that they DO feel and grow, despite being artificial life-forms. It could be programmed into them of course but it seems to be extraordinary behavior.
>If this isn't a blatantly slap in the face to the audience that he realised all JOI said was fake, then you must be blind and I would stop watching movies.
>No K isn't sad that he lost is waifu/gf.
You big dumb.
K is such a bot he left his waifu on factory settings.
>damn I can't believe I fell in love with my phone
It's the moment K thought, "I'm literally me."
It's about him realizing he is a pathetic coomer that cooms to his hologram girlfriend that is fake and is programmed to love him.
I fairly strongly believe both Blade Runners were segments/one theme of the original book turned into full movies. The first was obviously based on the time Deckard has an existential crisis where it's suggested that he himself might have been a replicant in deep hiding that had his memory wiped to commit to the life (he's not). Correct choice, imo, as this is clearly the funnest most interesting part of the book.
The second movie however. Well in the book they have this whole not-Christianity religion which Deckard is a fervent believer in. It's later revealed, SPOILERS, that the religion is a straight fake and the not-Jesus is even still alive as a retired paid actor. Deckard finds this out and.... chooses to remain a believer anyways. Something something leap of faith. It might sound psychotic but there's also a motif of "what is really reality maan" and the power of belief to change reality throughout the book, so it feels less random. It's very hippie. It's also in a context of what distinguishes robots from humans. One of the replicants does a big exposes debunking not-Christianity because replicants can't understand sincere faith/belief. Humans have sincere religious experience. That's a key difference. It's a weird book.
They clearly took this theme, I think, and made it more universalized for 2049. It's also kind of reversed from the first movie. K is a replicant that starts to think he's something more than a robot. One of the things that makes him human is he has sincere faith/higher purpose in life. Even when confronted with heavy evidence to the contrary, he chooses to believe in a sincere feeling between him and his waifu despite the fact they are both fake. As robots, this should be impossible.
Excellent answer, thanks. I read the book a long time ago and didn't understand it, time to re-read it.