What went so catastrophically wrong?
>massively expensive yet somehow dull cinematography
>most boring car chase in modern movie history
>zero chemistry with Bond and the woman
>moronic step brother plot line
>spectre base explodes because Bond shoots some gas tanks in the corner
>even more moronic ending where Blofeld hangs up little photos of people from CR, QOS and Skyfall in MI6 headquarters
>the climax is Bond shooting a pistol at a helicopter while slowly following it in a boat
>train fight was very good
Holy frick this movie sucks so bad, for every good Craig film they make sure you get a bad one directly afterwards
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I liked Spectre, I think it's one of the most underrated Bonds after The World Is Not Enough
Not underrated but certainly overhated. I understand why it turned out the way it did since it was very clearly influenced by the MCU and for generations the strategy for these movies has been to try fitting into whatever style is currently the most popular (Moonraker following Star Wars, Quantum of Solace following The Bourne Identity, etc.). It suffers because Skyfall felt so conclusive for Craig that throwing in Blofeld and saying he was behind everything felt especially tacked on, which it clearly was. To its credit, at least it didn't undo any character development for the sake of padding out the movie like No Time to Die did.
I'll never understand the love some people have for OHMSS which sits easily near the bottom for me, but other than that and ranking Lazenby above anyone else this list is alright.
>I'll never understand the love some people have for OHMSS which sits easily near the bottom for me, but other than that and ranking Lazenby above anyone else this list is alright.
small brain post
OHMSS is like one great movie and one borderline incompetent movie smashed together. It's my favorite Bond movie in terms of cinematography.
>What went so catastrophically wrong?
when that moronic c**t barbara broccoli cast him as "bond" in 2005
I like this movie because I saw it in the theaters with my mom (I was 30)
Is any of the Craig Bond films after Casino Royale worth a watch?
QOS 4/10
SKYFALL 6/10
SPECTRE 2/10
NTTD 4/10
In answer to your question, no they are not.
I’d bump the first two up by a point each but this is accurate
Quantum of Solace is a good, quick Bond FLICK. Don't let anyone here tell you otherwise.
Might be the only bond movie that I don't finish, the editing gives me vertigo
>peak Bourne style cuts
>extremely convoluted/contrived plot progression
>autistic homosexual villain
>underwhelming final fight
it was shit and it's still somehow probably the middle of the 5 in terms of quality
you are describing skyfall not Quantum of Solace
>autistic homosexual villain
he's a fricking kabbalist dude get with the program
>i am lmfao over this
>Another Way to Die is a kino theme
>mixed like total shit
alas
QoS is #2 Craig film after CR prove me wrong you can't
>Spectre is boring as sin but the opening tracking shot with the slick elevator edit was turbokino
>QoS is #2 Craig film after CR prove me wrong you can't
QoS is my favorite Bond film of all time. Sure it gets shat on but the rest of the Craig series basically spent its time trying and failing to re-create the kinetic energy that came out of QoS.
Skyfall is comfy fun. Just don’t think too hard about Silva’s plan, he’s a Bond villain, he’s contractually required to make it convoluted and reliant on too many things he couldn’t possibly know about in advance
Skyfall is a pretty good Nolan pastiche and is very pretty to look at. Quantum of Solace is just a generic action movie, nothing memorable but perfectly watchable. The other films are just awful, especially Spectre.
CR: 9/10. Top 3 bond films
QoS: 3
Skyfall:7
Spectre:4
Nttd:5
No. There is nothing remarkable about them and they are genuinely badly stylized.
Quantum of Kino. From Skyfall onward it just turns Bond into Chris Nolan's Batman. Don't bother.
The thing about Spectre that gets me is that there wasn't a real reason for it to be shit. Quantum is shit because it was rushed, NTTD is shit because of re-write hell and having to follow the worst Bond movie ever made, but Spectre didn't have production issues and yet was still an abortion of a film.
What did the film gain by making them brothers? Bond doesn’t even react to the reveal, it’s so bafflingly terrible.
This movie was in development hell for years but the plot was a non-starter. Nobody gives a shit about this b***h. It doubled down (where NTTD tripled) on the "Bond is old" themes. Blofeld was a completely useless addition to the story. The fact that almost nothing of consequence or excitement ever happens is an accident.
I hate that Bond constantly goes rogue or has one foot out the door. Those used to be rarities, with Craig him actually having a mission and not resigning is the rarity. Fricking repetitive across 5 movies.
Because it revealed that they didn't know what the frick they were doing and were making it up as they go along
>Quantum is a recurring name behind all the shit going on in the Craig films
>Blofeld comes in out of fricking nowhere, having never been mentioned before
>oh btw that was all me, Quantum is part of my even larger organization
Same thing that went wrong with JJ Abrams' Star Trek and Star Wars films. Rehashing old plots and characters to save money on actually writing something decent.
it was the first ever movie that i felt was written by ai
the big explosion scene lmao, i said to my family it was cgi because it looked fake, they showed me a behind the scenes video of how it’s a real explosion, the digital photography made an expensive explosion look like shitty 90s cgi
He even looks bored shitless on the fricking poster
It's an absolute piece of shit. Far too long. Script is terrible. Craig is awful. Zero rewatch value.
One thing you forgot:
Why the FRICK is his suit so insanely tight in the opening scene. It’s like two sizes too small, if he lifts his arm above his head that button is flying off and the elbows are going to restrict his movement. Hahaha what the hell was going on with this movie?
No passion for the project. Unironically. The director was over it. The main actor was over it. Everybody involved was over it so they pretty much mailed it in.
Would've improved by 20% if it ended before the helicopter chase
>What went so catastrophically wrong?
Bondfor people who don't like Bond.
DAD is retrospectively charming and Toby Keith absolutely kills his ridiculous transracial villain performance
>a view to a kill
>good tier
good god just kys
You really should
looks breddy good
When did this Dalton meme start and how do we killi it? Nothing against the guy but he was a TERRIBLE bond.
Please NEVER post again
I think it's decent until the last act, ignoring the obvious Blofeld foreshadowing. The Rome stuff is memorable. The Mexico City opening is pretty good. The last act is terrible and butchers the entire Craig run, though. It's almost impressive. I don't know what they were thinking. There are worse Bond movies but I'm not sure there are any as baffling.
>Best bonds
1.Connery
2.Dalton
3.Brosnan
4.Moore
5.Lazenby
6.Craig
>Best films
The Spy Who Loved me
GoldenEye
The Living Daylights
OHMSS
From Russia With love
>Best theme songs
Nobody Does It Better
Live and Let die
Diamonds Are Forever
Thunderball
Tomorrow Never Dies
>Tomorrow Never Dies
trusted and funded
Best Bondgirl?
Electra
Good list
They were trying too hard to be reddit and have epic throwbacks and references to the original Bond movies.
Yeah but just imagine Lea wrapping her lips around your rock hard wiener
>Bond has a formula to it that you must follow for it to be Bond
Repeat 24 times in a row.
>Why don't people want to watch this predictable film series anymore?
>make 20 formulaic movies
>people watch them and like them
>decide to freshen things up for the modern audience
>get 4 duds in a row
Yet they didn't change it enough for it to not be the same formula we've seen dozens of times.
Truth is they got lucky that could make the same plot twenty times. Time to let Bond die.
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thanks
too many cooks
design by committee
like most Hollywood sloppa
All Craig Bond films were bad.
I don't blame Daniel Craig, really. They're just really badly produced films... ESPECIALLY when compared to as a "Bond flick." The screenwriting and the plot are bad. The Craig "arc" of consecutive to-be-continued structure was also extremely poor.
I watched Bond for hot girls, great scene locations, good music, occasional fights, and campy spy humor.
>All the villains from the previous films are connected!
>How?
>Uh... THEY JUST WERE, OKAY?
him being bonds brother is the dumbest fricking idea