>the "main" story ended
except it didn’t. they said for years even before infinity war and endgame that they planned to make more movies. you’re moronic if you think that was supposed to be it. reality isn’t what’s in your little bubble.
i know, but that’s not my point. i’m just saying, why would they have stopped when, at that point in time, everything they were putting put was making a billion dollars every time. and thanos isn’t even remotely as “final boss” as someone like galactus or doctor doom.
>they said for years even before infinity war and endgame that they planned to make more movies.
And people don't care about those movies because they haven't been hooked to their bait yet. The MCU operated under the sunken cost fallacy. People stayed for Endgame because they watched Iron Man and those other pre-Avengers movies years ago. Now Iron Man is dead and Captain America is retired. They have no reason to stick around for post-Endgame MCU because they're no longer invested in anything that happens afterwards.
sunken cost my ass. most of them were entertaining and took comic book movies to a new height whether you agree iwht it or not. That's why people watched all of them. People are dropping the new ones because they simply suck wokeshit or not. Simple as
i went into a comic shop near me to look for a new release of something
turns out it was actually a "comic" "shop" in which every single thing they were selling was saran wrapped with a piece of plastic backing to make it collectable
anyway they wanted 4x the price for the new release so I left.
Most people don't even buy comics anymore, the industry is held up by licensing their legacy characters to sell toys, clothes, food, etc and collectors who buy every variant cover there is and put them straight into their vaults.
My local movie theater has literally had posts on their blog begging people to buy the snacks because they cannot afford to operate otherwise. The junk food is the only thing making running a theater profitable.
As far as I know, theatres make most of their profit from food sales, not from ticket sales.
I've also heard that some studios can be overly controlling dipshits about telling you how to run your theatre if you want to be allowed to show their movies
Marvel movies have to be shown for minimum X weeks on multiple screens, even if viewership has tapered off and it's costing the business money
The entire state of the industry is ass right now and not worth paying for movie outings, but I'll stand up for the theatres on this one
Some movies the studios haven't been letting the theaters have intermissions despite if it was anything else of that length it would be considered insane not to have one
>I hear you can get druk that way
You get absolutely fricked up that way. The colon in general absorbs fluids FAR more effectively than the upper intestines due to how thin the lining is
>muh oversaturation
There hasn't been a good Marvel movie in 5 years. It has nothing to do with saturation. The fricking movies are TERRIBLE
Antman3 was extremely bad
Wakanda2 was dog shit
Thor4 was fricking god awful
Strange 2 was barely not complete shit, but it was fricking really bad
Captain Marvel 2 was so fricking bad it's unreal
Black Widow's movie was maybe ok? But who cares? What was the point other than to setup another setup flick with the anti-heroes?
Secret Invasion was DOG SHIT
Loki season 1 was pretty decent but season 2 was extremely shit except for the last episode which did not make up for it.
She Hulk fricking disaster.
Anything else not mentioned was thankfully forgotten it was so shit.
The What If series lives up to itself, but it's ultimately pointless.
they're just circulating money with the movies. They're not losing much but keeping the IP alive while keeping the woke people happy. Disney plus is where it's really at right now with Loki and Xmen. They're already dropping a bunch of shit off. They'll be building the new phase from the only good shows they have in D+
I liked Loki Mandalorian and they have Shogun there too. Xmen's pretty good so far. My stay at home mom sister is providing the account and I'm not completely dead to not enjoy things anymore like you seething homosexual
>My stay at home mom sister provides me with access to entertainment.
It's fricking over. Throw in the towel.
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Please be bait
I share my netflix she shares her D+ you fricks. We both have kids and a house to deal with. Can't be having all the accounts like idjots. And no, I only go back to piracy if I really want to watch something outside the available streaming service we have. Can't be bothered anymore
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What abouy goyslop? Does she live near a McDonald's while you live near an Arby's?
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>projecting
parents know how to cook. grow the frick up
in your pic? nothing. MCU was always shit, but normal gays were brainwashed to like it as escapism after 2008. now that we're approaching ww3, they need everyone back to the real world
militant lesbian feminist victoria alonso, who has since jumped ship, thought she could do it
kennedy is still there trying to force female star wars down our throats
Umm, are you forgetting Captain Falcon? Anthony Mackie isn't a woman, he's just not White. Don't forget, it's only straight, White, Christian men they hate.
Ant-man isn't even the main hero of his own movies. The rest of the guys are literal who's, and Spider-Man is too low level and young to be considered the leader of the Avengers. Thor is just begging to be killed off at this point, but no one would care cause all the good-will and sympathy the character had amassed all went away with his goofiness in the last movie, despite the fact everyone in his family is dead.
Dr. Strange was the natural choice but they turned him into a jobber in his own movie. It's almost as if they got tired of raking in the big bucks and wanted to try their hand in writing bad movies.
>They replaced every male lead with a female equivalent
all that goalpost moving still doesn't make this statement true
Taking things hyper-literally is a clear sign of autism >Iron-Man = Iron Heart >Captain America = Captain Carter (What if) >Hulk = She-Hulk >Thor = Female Thor >Hawkeye = Female Hawkeye
That's 5/6 of the founding Avengers being replaced by female equivalents in phase 5
And it doesn't stop there >Black Panther = Female Black Panther
They then went ahead and made a movie with 3 female leads, made 3 shows with 3 female leads, and have downplayed the importance of their male leads by making them supporting cast in their own movies to female superheroes. This happened with Dr. Stranger and Thor in their latest movies.
I'm not an incel and I'm not allergic to women so miss me with all that, these are just the facts. Has this strategy paid off for them?
Are they even going to make anymore Guardians flicks?
-chi
Literal who.
>>ant-man
I don't see any more of these flicks happening.
Ant-man isn't even the main hero of his own movies. The rest of the guys are literal who's, and Spider-Man is too low level and young to be considered the leader of the Avengers. Thor is just begging to be killed off at this point, but no one would care cause all the good-will and sympathy the character had amassed all went away with his goofiness in the last movie, despite the fact everyone in his family is dead.
Dr. Strange was the natural choice but they turned him into a jobber in his own movie. It's almost as if they got tired of raking in the big bucks and wanted to try their hand in writing bad movies.
>spider-man
Sony wouldn't let them replace the ONLY character that makes them money >thor
Replace by a woman in the last film >doctor strange
Being replaced by America Chavez >daredevil
Hasn't had a single movie - bad faith argument >deadpool
Reddit >captain america
Replaced by a black man (the women of men) >starlord
James Gunn finished the story. In all likelihood will be replaced by a woman. >shang-chi
Who? >ant-man
Replaced by The Wasp
Now what about all the heroes you missed? >Iron Man >the Hulk >Hawkeye >Black Widow
All replaced by women.
>made an absurdist statement because you’re too moronic to not speak in hyperbole >someone rightfully calls you out >cope and seethe and move goalpost
What happened to just admitting your statement was wrong, everyone here is anonymous there’s no need to double down on everything.
Ant-man isn't even the main hero of his own movies. The rest of the guys are literal who's, and Spider-Man is too low level and young to be considered the leader of the Avengers. Thor is just begging to be killed off at this point, but no one would care cause all the good-will and sympathy the character had amassed all went away with his goofiness in the last movie, despite the fact everyone in his family is dead.
Dr. Strange was the natural choice but they turned him into a jobber in his own movie. It's almost as if they got tired of raking in the big bucks and wanted to try their hand in writing bad movies.
>spider-man
Sony wouldn't let them replace the ONLY character that makes them money >thor
Replace by a woman in the last film >doctor strange
Being replaced by America Chavez >daredevil
Hasn't had a single movie - bad faith argument >deadpool
Reddit >captain america
Replaced by a black man (the women of men) >starlord
James Gunn finished the story. In all likelihood will be replaced by a woman. >shang-chi
Who? >ant-man
Replaced by The Wasp
Now what about all the heroes you missed? >Iron Man >the Hulk >Hawkeye >Black Widow
All replaced by women.
Are they even going to make anymore Guardians flicks?
-chi
Literal who.
>>ant-man
I don't see any more of these flicks happening.
Ant-man isn't even the main hero of his own movies. The rest of the guys are literal who's, and Spider-Man is too low level and young to be considered the leader of the Avengers. Thor is just begging to be killed off at this point, but no one would care cause all the good-will and sympathy the character had amassed all went away with his goofiness in the last movie, despite the fact everyone in his family is dead.
Dr. Strange was the natural choice but they turned him into a jobber in his own movie. It's almost as if they got tired of raking in the big bucks and wanted to try their hand in writing bad movies.
[...] >They replaced every male lead with a female equivalent
all that goalpost moving still doesn't make this statement true
Taking things hyper-literally is a clear sign of autism >Iron-Man = Iron Heart >Captain America = Captain Carter (What if) >Hulk = She-Hulk >Thor = Female Thor >Hawkeye = Female Hawkeye
That's 5/6 of the founding Avengers being replaced by female equivalents in phase 5
And it doesn't stop there >Black Panther = Female Black Panther
They then went ahead and made a movie with 3 female leads, made 3 shows with 3 female leads, and have downplayed the importance of their male leads by making them supporting cast in their own movies to female superheroes. This happened with Dr. Stranger and Thor in their latest movies.
I'm not an incel and I'm not allergic to women so miss me with all that, these are just the facts. Has this strategy paid off for them?
>everyone forgetting Ant-man getting replaced by Ant-Mary Sue daughter who's better at everything than him in quantumfloppia
>everyone forgetting Ant-man getting replaced by Ant-Mary Sue daughter who's better at everything than him in quantumfloppia
The Ant-Man of the MCU is a replacement character for Hank Pym, the original Ant-Man. Why should anyone care if the replacement character is getting replaced?
They got too wienery and thought they could throw whatever shit at us and it would stick. It didn't help that the MCU shine wore off after the story concluded.
They could give us more Captain America doing Captain America stuff or more Iron-Man doing Iron-Man stuff.
But they decided to ditch them and then replace them with bootleg equivalents with ZERO charisma and presence and ability and we're supposed to pretend we don't care and don't notice.
This Mackie guy looks like a tertiary character in some random story AT BEST, not a leading man material. He doesn't look convincing as anything.
Meanwhile Bucky, who WAS available for the role and would fit perfectly, was reduced to some bit role and his entire character wasted on nothing.
>"you can't really go outside the lines" >the adaptations are so different from the source material that they're almost unrecognizable from one another
Normalgays will make any excuse for Hollywood instead of just admitting they forgot how to make good movies >it's because of superhero fatigue! >the because of the lockdowns! >it's because of the writer's strike! >it's because of the recession!
All cope
Disney+ happened.
They prioritized pumping out large amounts of content over having things meaningfully connect and build up to anything.
Also, Infinity War and Endgame already raised the stakes about as high as you can get before you kinda tune out and stop caring. The multiverse and endless variants of characters don't feel like upping the ante in a satisfying way, they just make me go "Eh, Rick and Morty kinda already did this"
The directors and writers of all the comic book movies after Endgame have all had connections to that show. They all worked on it in some capacity. They are killing the franchise. They are homosexuals unironically.
Several things.
1. Superhero fatigue
2. No charismatic figure leading the charge
3. Nothing tying in all the movies together
4. Streaming service with 20+ new shows and C-tier characters no one cares about
5. #Girlboss
You are wrong.
Dr. Strange could work, but they cucked him in dozens of ways. His love interest married a literal Black person in a multicultural wedding. The doomsday plot was a thankyou distraction. He finds out he gets cucked in every universe. He has to raise a beaner gay that comes from lesbians. He's not the sorcerer supreme for some moronic reason. He doesn't marry and give children to Wanda. Instead he tries to take his anger out on a black man, and when that's not enough, he takes it out on himself. And when that's not enough, he takes out out on his dead self.
Thor goes through similar humiliation. A Black person child can wield the king's axe, and he has to raise a non-white child from another man. The kids boss him around and tell him to address them by their chosen name instead of the name their father chose for them.
I’m not even convinced Marx read Hegel
I think most philosophy students read maybe 3 exerts from Phenomenology of Geist and then pull the analysis from other thesis/journal publications
Realistically, nobody has read Hegel in around a hundred years
No one wants to see a movie about some Z-List loser like Shang-Chi or the Eternals instead of the characters they had actually cared about for the last 2 decades. Plus Endgame was literally endgame. It tied up literally every story thread and loose end, gave all the characters closure, defeated the central villain, and had the highest stakes possible. The story was done. There's nothing else to tell. No one cares about what happens next. It was a definite ending and everyone knew that and jumped off.
>The story was done. There's nothing else to tell.
You're wrong on this; there are bigger threats than Thanos but they just didn't have the right tools to find a way to navigate how to show this. The Eternals was a massive bomb but it was supposed to show that there are bigger threats out there than some purple haired dork with a muscle vest who wants to snap half of all life away.
The problem is that Thanos successfully snapped half of all life away, whatever stupid shit happened in the Eternals movie isn't going to be a bigger threat than that.
Same thing that’s killing the comics they’re based on. Identity politics and social justice relegating interesting characters and inventive storylines to the backseat as women, homosexuals and ~~*others*~~ turn their backs on the straight white guys that have been their core demographic for almost a hundred years.
No, it’s a source of constant joy for me. Every dollar they lose moves our popular culture further and further away from the political idiocy that’s rotting our culture and corroding our shared identity.
>in the 90's >OK, this is a popular comic character, but I bet I can do a better job and fix it for a full movie > in 2008
OK, we are pretty much bankrup, let's try to be as accurate to the comic as we can and try to fit it into modern times >in 2019 >OK, this is a comic character, but I bet I can do a better job and fix it for modern audiences
>Greed >Hiring incompetent activists >Getting rid of popular characters and replacing them with unlikable tokens and women >Being openly hostile towards your own audience
Take your pick
Marvel went full arrogance phase and diehard fans went full defense force which drove normal people away. WandaVision was the first post-Endgame material and the whole vibe surrounding it was disappointment, uncertainty of the future, and cope. It was the start of a years-long trend of falling short, fan theories being 10 times cooler than what we got, and dead end attempts to branch out like Eternals. Phase Four was shockingly bad because it was supposed to be the big comeback, but I don't think Phase Five is surprising anyone by being so limp. At this point 90% of people have accepted that the good old days are over and they're not coming back.
>diehard fans went full defense force which drove normal people away.
This is what turned me off the most. Marvel fanboys are even more delusional than NAFO.
>Marvel went full arrogance phase and diehard fans went full defense force which drove normal people away.
What Marvel fans are we even talking about here? The original stinky smell basement dweller nerds? Or the modern day Funko pop buying soi mouth morons?
A decline was inevitable. Infinity war and endgame were massive payoffs to a decade long edge. People needed time to breath after that but they just kept churning shit out.
when will it end? when will they run out of material to keep adding to the shitheap? who is even interested in marvel media anymore? I mean honestly it feels like almost all interest has dried up, who is still anticipating the next slop movie / show?
>They'll never stop The Capeshit. Have no fears, we've got stories for years.Like - Ant-Man becomes a robot. Maybe Beast gets a Virus, Has Thor ever owned a frog? Or, how 'bout a mutie wedding? When something happens a do-do-do-do-doooo
>mfw Feige and Co. are in full-blown panic and trying to make Kingpin the street level Thanos >they abandoned their original plans to reboot Daredevil and made the Netflix shit canon because they realized nobody likes the D+ shows >even shoehorned Netflix Daredevil footage into the Echo trailers
Really a brave move for them to take their foot off the gas pedal right after Endgame. They should have known a lot of people were going to check out after the Infinity Saga ended. Instead of baiting everyone with the next big storyline, they became completely directionless. How could they not have seen this coming?
>How could they not have seen this coming?
That's something I think about all the time. It's truly baffling. A few minor bumps aide, the MCU worked with Swiss precision all the way up to Endgame regardless of how one feels about the material. That savvy and foresight was completely absent at the end. My only guess is the downfall stemmed from hubris...the whole "too big to fail" mindset, so they spread themselves thin and phoned nearly everything in moving forward.
This "phase" stuff is incredibly forced, maybe it made more sense in the buildup to Endgame when they were actually tying plot threads together more coherently
The succes was always extremely over blown, Ironman, Thor (enjoyed for cringe kino only), avengers, avengers two.
That was it.
Everything else was coattails and stand alones
>Ant-Man and the Wasp 3
The Ant-Man movies were doomed from the start, Hank and Janet both got replaced by Scott and a shitty OC character. Certainly doesn't help that this movie was also a CGI shitfest with garbage writing. >Secret Invasion
Let's adapt a storyline about the Avengers getting infiltrated by evil shape-shifting aliens, and only include one Avenger. I wonder which Avenger is going to be an evil shape-shifting alien, could it be the only Avenger in this show? Writing was also ass, and there was no indication before this show that War Machine was ever a Skrull. >Guardians 3
This was actually good. >The Marvels
No-one likes Captain Marvel. You also had to watch three different TV shows before this movie. >Loki S2
Apparently it was alright, although I wouldn't know because I didn't watch it. >Echo
Didn't watch this one either, I don't think a show about a side character from the Hawkeye series sounds very exciting. >Ironheart
No-one likes Ironheart. >Agatha
Another show about a side character from a previous Marvel series. What an incredible idea. >Daredevil Born Again
They've recently had to completely reshoot the entire show, which isn't a great sign. Apparently Punisher is going to be killing racist cops, because Marvel are still seething that a couple of idiot cops put the Punisher logo on their cars. I have a feeling this show won't be as good as the Netflix series. >Captain America
They've also had to do multiple reshoots for this movie because apparently test audiences hate the villains. No Steve Rogers, no Bucky, no Zemo. But this movie does have Hulk villains, and a pro-Israel superhero. I'm sure the movie will do wonderfully. >Thunderbolts
A movie about Bucky and a gazillion shitty side-charcters from previous movies. How exciting. >Blade
The movie is in production hell because no-one at Marvel has realised that all people want from a Blade movie is a fun, R-rated, action-packed, vampire movie, where Blade fights Dracula and other vampires.
>Bucky is sidelined in the movie
If that's true, then I have no idea how they expect the movie to be a success. Bucky is the only character in Thunderbolts, anyone cares about.
I think the biggest problem is how they haven't addressed the most simple of issues.
>where are the Avengers >who's in the Avengers >what are they doing
There really should have been more discussions about who's going to be the new leader with Cap and Iron Man both gone. We had a Thor movie and a small part of the GotG movie where someone could have asked Thor why he was fricking off around in the universe instead of leading his team. You've had some pretty serious threats like a reality bender like Wanda taking over a whole town, and no one considered asking the Avengers for help. Falcon gets a mini series about becoming Captain America, leadership of the Avengers is never mentioned.
What they should have done is shown the Avengers were in a really bad shape as the major theme of phase 4. Their two figureheads Captain America and Iron Man were gone. Thor and Captain Marvel leaving to do their own thing. The power vacuum that the Avengers left behind becomes the direct cause of the creation of the Young Avengers. Phase 5 should be the creation of the Thunderbolts, because the government doesn't trust the Young Avengers to be responsible enough and shit. Phase 6 is when the big villain, Kang or whoever, finally shows his face to the public and everyone becomes aware of his existence. Wrap the multiverse saga up with the creation of the new, Multiverse Avengers. Kang is defeated, but because of some frick up, the main universe changes, queuing up the X-Men for the next saga.
>Second gen of heroes flopped hard. Nobody resonated with audiences >the general tinfoil theory that all of this was setup for Hillary winning the presidency >Pivoting on woman power, when almost all capshit revolves around males. >cap marvel is setup to be the new leader, but holy shit everyone hates her >even if Thor said 'I like this one', nobody gives a frick >random denial of objective reality "nobody will know what you sacrificed, Wanda" >in the mist of all of this you point all your bets on guardian of the galaxy tier of risk investment (indian elastic ms marvel, moon knight, eternals) >secret invasion, but with no spy stuff and no "who is a skrull" mystery. The cartoon series did it better a decade ago. >the general sensation that we are seeing random spinoff but not the main title. >loki was the last bastion but he "dies" too >your next big villain is being defeated over and over again. >fukkin antman beat kang in a fist fight. This is your new Thanos >but who cares because they needed to fire him. Lmao
WHERE'S THE ALPHA FLIGHT MOVIE, EH, YA HOSERS?
WHERE'S THE EXCALIBUR MOVIE YOU BLOODY COLONIALS?
LITERALLY NOBODY OUTSIDE THE US GIVES A FLYING FRICK AT A JAM TIN ROLLING DOWNHILL ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS AND STRONG GIRLBOSSES WHINING ABOUT HOW THE WHITE HETERONORMATIVE PATRIARCHY KEEPS THEM DOWN!
Although I dread to think what a modern day Excalibur or Alpha Flight cast would look like.
Heavy tampering on the scripts by investors to follow ESG-DEI commitee demands, production was done by people more worried with nepotism or to teach the audience a lesson they never asked for, and no one were ever any competent or commited to the pieces.
Your younger years are never coming back, people. Disney is a corporation as much as McDonalds. It's exacly like eating that weird new gourmet burger with olives in it because someone on a comittee told it was healthier and a justification for paying more for it, and you keep eating and complaining the burger is more expensive and you don't even like olives. Go eat somewhere else for a change, the happy meal isn't happy anymore, read a fricking book
People don't realize how long the MCU has been around. To a lot of people Iron Man and all those early movies were part of their childhood. People were invested in the movies because of this, some more invested, some less. But they were all waiting for it to end. Endgame is that ending they were waiting for. Now the new MCU shit, they don't care about it anymore. They're too old to get invested in again, and that's why a lot of people stopped caring.
>they ended the years long storyline and killed off 2 of the most popular characters which will naturally make a lot of people lose interest >covid delays happened >marvel thought that people were so hooked they would have the dedication to tune in every week for a streaming show about the side characters >the first two disney plus series, wandavision and falcon and the winter soldier were pretty bad >a lot of the movies since endgame are really bad
Literally everything in the bottom section but swap Agatha and DD. A good fricking Hulk movie would be so good right now with all the male frustration going around.
>the obvious conclusive aspect of thanos saga >a lot of uninteresting projects, with a lot of them made just to fill minorities quotas (the woman superhero, the latina superhero...), with story and quality being secondary >excess of content destroying the obligation to keep following, since it would be impossible anyway >lack of a bigger thing tying everything together like thanos was, which used to mask the literal sitcoms these movies have always been
From the outside looking in, it seems like DC has essentially become a more successful version of the Hamada-era DCEU. Lots of individually successful stories, lots of individual moving parts, but no real connective tissue.
That is just the inevitable circle of DC and Marvel capeshit >Reset the timeline >Fresh start so the stories is still in cohesion and easy to follow >Forward 10 years >trillions of crossovers, side stories and literally who characters all tangled together in a hot blended mess >world building is out of window, nothing make sense anymore, writers casually pulling shit out of their asses and call it a day >quality goes down so bad nobody gives a shit or buys anything >reset the timeline
Its happening to the MCU, the marvel DC comic is a failed and outdated model
Well no. The story of DC was that they had a cohesive storyline, but then they threw it away in favor of individually successful movies and never had the ambition to re-connect the dots. They tries towards the end of the Vic run, but by that point we had flop after flop.
MCU has story arcs and is still building something, but they've decided to shove out a bunch of craps without really thinking how it works in the long run other than vaguely building towards a multiverse war.
I always thought that a tv show supplementing a movie universe wasn’t that bad of an idea. Like Green Arrow from the tv show showing up as the DCEU’s Green Arrow for the Justice League would have been a neat idea. But seeing how the Disney+ shows turned out, now I don’t know. Maybe it’s the fact that there’s way too many Disney+ shows and the only show you would have theoretically had to watch was Arrow. I know technically there were other Arrowverse shows, but for the sake of argument let’s just say Green Arrow and maybe Flash were the only tv shows you had to follow.
The shows are marketed to an entirely different demographic in stay at home moms and especially blacks while the movies are still marketed to cucked, liberal manchildren.
it's all about execution. by the time they were rolling out shows they ran out of steam and were writing bad stories for characters no one cares about targeted at an audience that doesn't really care that much about superheroes.
they incorrectly assumed people would eat up whatever they shit out. this shit was already wearing thin by End Game, so the idea that they could just restart with a mostly new cast was just silly. people saw that as a perfect opportunity to get off the marvel train, and then felt vindicated since a lot of the new stuff got shat on anyway.
over saturation + declining quality + replacing the cast of characters = people stop giving a shit
Making it so you have to follow the Disney+ shows to understand what the movies were about was a big mistake. Too many female centric projects lost the male audience and with them their girlfriends. All youre left with are ultra nerds/betas and autists. DC at least still follows the main characters
Bad transition, they needed Xmen and Fantastic Four but they prefer adding some Who characters. TV shows was a mistake, covid affected too. Spiderman gave them a good start but they ruined everything with those new characters. They only have GOTG, they need to explore the marvel universe with Nova Corps, even they can add ghost rider in space with Kino Cage and making a transition with Gosling (at the end of the day, Ghost Rider can recover all his face after flames).
They expected normalgays to keep consuming after the "main" story ended like their comic babbies do
>the "main" story ended
except it didn’t. they said for years even before infinity war and endgame that they planned to make more movies. you’re moronic if you think that was supposed to be it. reality isn’t what’s in your little bubble.
All the stuff that was actually planned out ended and most of the main cast people like are gone. It's over.
i know, but that’s not my point. i’m just saying, why would they have stopped when, at that point in time, everything they were putting put was making a billion dollars every time. and thanos isn’t even remotely as “final boss” as someone like galactus or doctor doom.
>they said for years even before infinity war and endgame that they planned to make more movies.
And people don't care about those movies because they haven't been hooked to their bait yet. The MCU operated under the sunken cost fallacy. People stayed for Endgame because they watched Iron Man and those other pre-Avengers movies years ago. Now Iron Man is dead and Captain America is retired. They have no reason to stick around for post-Endgame MCU because they're no longer invested in anything that happens afterwards.
sunken cost my ass. most of them were entertaining and took comic book movies to a new height whether you agree iwht it or not. That's why people watched all of them. People are dropping the new ones because they simply suck wokeshit or not. Simple as
Marvel sucks and it didn’t do anything other than utilize the Saturday morning cartoon format on the big screen
>reality isn’t what’s in your little bubble.
You are the one living in a bubble, do you think normies care about this multiverse shit? Wake up moron
>except it didn’t
except it doesn't matter.
what matters is what the normies perceived
Did they give you April Fool's Day, shill?
>endgame
>end-game
>end
>not the end
>like their comic babbies do
Pretty damn sure nobody buys comics nowadays as they did 20 years ago tho
i went into a comic shop near me to look for a new release of something
turns out it was actually a "comic" "shop" in which every single thing they were selling was saran wrapped with a piece of plastic backing to make it collectable
anyway they wanted 4x the price for the new release so I left.
Most people don't even buy comics anymore, the industry is held up by licensing their legacy characters to sell toys, clothes, food, etc and collectors who buy every variant cover there is and put them straight into their vaults.
Victoria Alonso's fingerprints are still on most of these. GOTG3 was all Gunn.
And it was shit.
Nothing but pedophile jokes and fantasies.
Good morning sirs, do not redeem, not forget to support the snyderverse and vote against spiderman no way home on twitter, sirs
OH YOU POINTED OUT HOW JAMES GUNN HAS PEDOPHILE PARTIES AND 10 YEARS OF PEDOPHILE JOKE TWEETS?
YOU'RE A FRICKING PAJEET, NIGERJEW
you might prefer reddit if pedophile jokes make you spaz out this hard
What the gay frick are you talking about
Reddit signed a 10k+ signature petition to get Gunn rehired despite his pedophilia.
No Zack Snyder to steal ideas from anymore.
Based Snyderchad. Anybody got that side-by-side comparison pic?
I wish Disney hired Zaddy to direct Daredevil, Matt's a perfect hero for him
Oversaturation
Plus, no one is paying >$20 for a ticket for a flick, not including the overpriced soda and snacks
>overpriced soda and snacks
Why do people think they have to eat/drink while watching films?
Because the average movie is now 3.5hrs long.
>the american cannot comprehend not eating for 3.5 hours
many such cases.
My local movie theater has literally had posts on their blog begging people to buy the snacks because they cannot afford to operate otherwise. The junk food is the only thing making running a theater profitable.
I had $30 chicken parm the last time i went to the kinoplex
As far as I know, theatres make most of their profit from food sales, not from ticket sales.
I've also heard that some studios can be overly controlling dipshits about telling you how to run your theatre if you want to be allowed to show their movies
Marvel movies have to be shown for minimum X weeks on multiple screens, even if viewership has tapered off and it's costing the business money
The entire state of the industry is ass right now and not worth paying for movie outings, but I'll stand up for the theatres on this one
As an aside to
Some movies the studios haven't been letting the theaters have intermissions despite if it was anything else of that length it would be considered insane not to have one
Time to bring down actor's pay then. It's a different era to what they grew up in. Time to change.
Need something to mix the liquor I sneak in with
Mixed about 5 single shots of titos in a blue favored ICEE when I saw DUNC 2
Clever. I just sneak in my butt plug already equipped. It's enough for my relaxation.
You could sneak in a tampon soaked in liquor up your bootyhole
I hear you can get druk that way
>I hear you can get druk that way
You get absolutely fricked up that way. The colon in general absorbs fluids FAR more effectively than the upper intestines due to how thin the lining is
>muh oversaturation
There hasn't been a good Marvel movie in 5 years. It has nothing to do with saturation. The fricking movies are TERRIBLE
Antman3 was extremely bad
Wakanda2 was dog shit
Thor4 was fricking god awful
Strange 2 was barely not complete shit, but it was fricking really bad
Captain Marvel 2 was so fricking bad it's unreal
Black Widow's movie was maybe ok? But who cares? What was the point other than to setup another setup flick with the anti-heroes?
Secret Invasion was DOG SHIT
Loki season 1 was pretty decent but season 2 was extremely shit except for the last episode which did not make up for it.
She Hulk fricking disaster.
Anything else not mentioned was thankfully forgotten it was so shit.
The What If series lives up to itself, but it's ultimately pointless.
they're just circulating money with the movies. They're not losing much but keeping the IP alive while keeping the woke people happy. Disney plus is where it's really at right now with Loki and Xmen. They're already dropping a bunch of shit off. They'll be building the new phase from the only good shows they have in D+
D+ is for Black folk and stay at home moms (especially black moms).
If you haven't noticed that by watching the shows, you are dead inside and out.
I liked Loki Mandalorian and they have Shogun there too. Xmen's pretty good so far. My stay at home mom sister is providing the account and I'm not completely dead to not enjoy things anymore like you seething homosexual
>My stay at home mom sister provides me with access to entertainment.
It's fricking over. Throw in the towel.
I share my netflix she shares her D+ you fricks. We both have kids and a house to deal with. Can't be having all the accounts like idjots. And no, I only go back to piracy if I really want to watch something outside the available streaming service we have. Can't be bothered anymore
What abouy goyslop? Does she live near a McDonald's while you live near an Arby's?
>projecting
parents know how to cook. grow the frick up
Is her cooking better or worse with the D+ on
Please be bait
This. Life is hard enough to deal with already, let alone having to deal with this post.
GOTG3 performed well
but did you like it?
Yeah and everything else on that slate has either bombed or has been delayed for multiple reshoots
they really thought that people would just watch anything they put out. no one could stand up to feige and tell him to slow it down.
>a fricking Agatha Harkness series
>Blade remake
ooooh we still have that disaster to look forward to.
in your pic? nothing. MCU was always shit, but normal gays were brainwashed to like it as escapism after 2008. now that we're approaching ww3, they need everyone back to the real world
I'm glad I didn't watch any of all that fricking slop except the first 2 Ironman movies. This MCU shit destroyed movies and TV.
They replaced every male lead with a female equivalent.
Not sure what the frick they were thinking with this. I get if you try to replace one or two, but ALL of them?? At the same time??
So in their ideal version of the MCU every single superhero would be a woman??
militant lesbian feminist victoria alonso, who has since jumped ship, thought she could do it
kennedy is still there trying to force female star wars down our throats
It doesn't help that all the big remaining male heroes are emasculated jokes now. Thor, Hulk and Spider-Man just aren't as cool as they should be.
Umm, are you forgetting Captain Falcon? Anthony Mackie isn't a woman, he's just not White. Don't forget, it's only straight, White, Christian men they hate.
>Captain Falcon
Show me your moves!
They replaced Captain America with the most beta man in the world.
>they gotta do better
>T-They HATE white christian men
>I-I'm totally a persecuted minority!
>spider-man
>thor
>doctor strange
>daredevil
>deadpool
>captain america
>starlord
>shang-chi
>ant-man
not replaced by a woman
nice made up scenario, buddy
-man
Owned by Sony
>>thor
That character's run is finished.
strange
Maybe one more movie.
Reboot, they'll probably make him gay.
Funny but not really part of the franchise.
america
Nobody wants Captain Black.
Are they even going to make anymore Guardians flicks?
-chi
Literal who.
>>ant-man
I don't see any more of these flicks happening.
>They replaced every male lead with a female equivalent
all that goalpost moving still doesn't make this statement true
What are you on about lil guy? That wasn't even me you was replying to
Taking things hyper-literally is a clear sign of autism
>Iron-Man = Iron Heart
>Captain America = Captain Carter (What if)
>Hulk = She-Hulk
>Thor = Female Thor
>Hawkeye = Female Hawkeye
That's 5/6 of the founding Avengers being replaced by female equivalents in phase 5
And it doesn't stop there
>Black Panther = Female Black Panther
They then went ahead and made a movie with 3 female leads, made 3 shows with 3 female leads, and have downplayed the importance of their male leads by making them supporting cast in their own movies to female superheroes. This happened with Dr. Stranger and Thor in their latest movies.
I'm not an incel and I'm not allergic to women so miss me with all that, these are just the facts. Has this strategy paid off for them?
Waiting for the response from
>made an absurdist statement because you’re too moronic to not speak in hyperbole
>someone rightfully calls you out
>cope and seethe and move goalpost
What happened to just admitting your statement was wrong, everyone here is anonymous there’s no need to double down on everything.
Ant-man isn't even the main hero of his own movies. The rest of the guys are literal who's, and Spider-Man is too low level and young to be considered the leader of the Avengers. Thor is just begging to be killed off at this point, but no one would care cause all the good-will and sympathy the character had amassed all went away with his goofiness in the last movie, despite the fact everyone in his family is dead.
Dr. Strange was the natural choice but they turned him into a jobber in his own movie. It's almost as if they got tired of raking in the big bucks and wanted to try their hand in writing bad movies.
Calling that last Avengers movie "Endgame" was a huge mistake
>spider-man
Sony wouldn't let them replace the ONLY character that makes them money
>thor
Replace by a woman in the last film
>doctor strange
Being replaced by America Chavez
>daredevil
Hasn't had a single movie - bad faith argument
>deadpool
Reddit
>captain america
Replaced by a black man (the women of men)
>starlord
James Gunn finished the story. In all likelihood will be replaced by a woman.
>shang-chi
Who?
>ant-man
Replaced by The Wasp
Now what about all the heroes you missed?
>Iron Man
>the Hulk
>Hawkeye
>Black Widow
All replaced by women.
>everyone forgetting Ant-man getting replaced by Ant-Mary Sue daughter who's better at everything than him in quantumfloppia
>everyone forgetting Ant-man getting replaced by Ant-Mary Sue daughter who's better at everything than him in quantumfloppia
The Ant-Man of the MCU is a replacement character for Hank Pym, the original Ant-Man. Why should anyone care if the replacement character is getting replaced?
It worked in the comics 😉
They got too wienery and thought they could throw whatever shit at us and it would stick. It didn't help that the MCU shine wore off after the story concluded.
superhero movies are gay as frick
There's only so many times you can watch the formulaic MCU blueprint before people start tuning out.
Untrue.
They could give us more Captain America doing Captain America stuff or more Iron-Man doing Iron-Man stuff.
But they decided to ditch them and then replace them with bootleg equivalents with ZERO charisma and presence and ability and we're supposed to pretend we don't care and don't notice.
This Mackie guy looks like a tertiary character in some random story AT BEST, not a leading man material. He doesn't look convincing as anything.
Meanwhile Bucky, who WAS available for the role and would fit perfectly, was reduced to some bit role and his entire character wasted on nothing.
>"you can't really go outside the lines"
>the adaptations are so different from the source material that they're almost unrecognizable from one another
Normalgays will make any excuse for Hollywood instead of just admitting they forgot how to make good movies
>it's because of superhero fatigue!
>the because of the lockdowns!
>it's because of the writer's strike!
>it's because of the recession!
All cope
>Amusement park films
nothing
Disney+ happened.
They prioritized pumping out large amounts of content over having things meaningfully connect and build up to anything.
Also, Infinity War and Endgame already raised the stakes about as high as you can get before you kinda tune out and stop caring. The multiverse and endless variants of characters don't feel like upping the ante in a satisfying way, they just make me go "Eh, Rick and Morty kinda already did this"
The directors and writers of all the comic book movies after Endgame have all had connections to that show. They all worked on it in some capacity. They are killing the franchise. They are homosexuals unironically.
GOTG3 was the MCU's epilogue
nobody needs 40 hours of capeshit content in a year. it's too much
plus the shows are all mediocre at best
i recognize captain america, thats it.
Thunderbolt bros! Where we at?
It ended but they kept going.
Several things.
1. Superhero fatigue
2. No charismatic figure leading the charge
3. Nothing tying in all the movies together
4. Streaming service with 20+ new shows and C-tier characters no one cares about
5. #Girlboss
>Superhero fatigue
10 years into 2 weeks of capeshit fatigue lol
You are wrong.
Dr. Strange could work, but they cucked him in dozens of ways. His love interest married a literal Black person in a multicultural wedding. The doomsday plot was a thankyou distraction. He finds out he gets cucked in every universe. He has to raise a beaner gay that comes from lesbians. He's not the sorcerer supreme for some moronic reason. He doesn't marry and give children to Wanda. Instead he tries to take his anger out on a black man, and when that's not enough, he takes it out on himself. And when that's not enough, he takes out out on his dead self.
Thor goes through similar humiliation. A Black person child can wield the king's axe, and he has to raise a non-white child from another man. The kids boss him around and tell him to address them by their chosen name instead of the name their father chose for them.
Cultural Hegelianism
You have NOT read Hegel
Reading Hegel is real, and being real is reading Hegel
I’m not even convinced Marx read Hegel
I think most philosophy students read maybe 3 exerts from Phenomenology of Geist and then pull the analysis from other thesis/journal publications
Realistically, nobody has read Hegel in around a hundred years
anon Hegel didn't even understand himself when he wrote Phenomenology of Geist.
slop fatigue
No one wants to see a movie about some Z-List loser like Shang-Chi or the Eternals instead of the characters they had actually cared about for the last 2 decades. Plus Endgame was literally endgame. It tied up literally every story thread and loose end, gave all the characters closure, defeated the central villain, and had the highest stakes possible. The story was done. There's nothing else to tell. No one cares about what happens next. It was a definite ending and everyone knew that and jumped off.
>The story was done. There's nothing else to tell.
You're wrong on this; there are bigger threats than Thanos but they just didn't have the right tools to find a way to navigate how to show this. The Eternals was a massive bomb but it was supposed to show that there are bigger threats out there than some purple haired dork with a muscle vest who wants to snap half of all life away.
The problem is that Thanos successfully snapped half of all life away, whatever stupid shit happened in the Eternals movie isn't going to be a bigger threat than that.
Same thing that’s killing the comics they’re based on. Identity politics and social justice relegating interesting characters and inventive storylines to the backseat as women, homosexuals and ~~*others*~~ turn their backs on the straight white guys that have been their core demographic for almost a hundred years.
100%
It's very sad
No, it’s a source of constant joy for me. Every dollar they lose moves our popular culture further and further away from the political idiocy that’s rotting our culture and corroding our shared identity.
tulips
wtf is echo and thunderbolts? actually you know what i don't give a hoot
>What went wrong?
So what's the schedule now?
>in the 90's
>OK, this is a popular comic character, but I bet I can do a better job and fix it for a full movie
> in 2008
OK, we are pretty much bankrup, let's try to be as accurate to the comic as we can and try to fit it into modern times
>in 2019
>OK, this is a comic character, but I bet I can do a better job and fix it for modern audiences
Holy shit they really fricked up last year. Only 3 or 4 of those actually released right?
>Greed
>Hiring incompetent activists
>Getting rid of popular characters and replacing them with unlikable tokens and women
>Being openly hostile towards your own audience
Take your pick
Marvel went full arrogance phase and diehard fans went full defense force which drove normal people away. WandaVision was the first post-Endgame material and the whole vibe surrounding it was disappointment, uncertainty of the future, and cope. It was the start of a years-long trend of falling short, fan theories being 10 times cooler than what we got, and dead end attempts to branch out like Eternals. Phase Four was shockingly bad because it was supposed to be the big comeback, but I don't think Phase Five is surprising anyone by being so limp. At this point 90% of people have accepted that the good old days are over and they're not coming back.
>diehard fans went full defense force which drove normal people away.
This is what turned me off the most. Marvel fanboys are even more delusional than NAFO.
>Marvel went full arrogance phase and diehard fans went full defense force which drove normal people away.
What Marvel fans are we even talking about here? The original stinky smell basement dweller nerds? Or the modern day Funko pop buying soi mouth morons?
I felt more emotional from the Mothra girl telling scientist lady "you are my home" in GxK than from anything in WandaVision.
A decline was inevitable. Infinity war and endgame were massive payoffs to a decade long edge. People needed time to breath after that but they just kept churning shit out.
when will it end? when will they run out of material to keep adding to the shitheap? who is even interested in marvel media anymore? I mean honestly it feels like almost all interest has dried up, who is still anticipating the next slop movie / show?
>They'll never stop The Capeshit. Have no fears, we've got stories for years.Like - Ant-Man becomes a robot. Maybe Beast gets a Virus, Has Thor ever owned a frog? Or, how 'bout a mutie wedding? When something happens a do-do-do-do-doooo
You know MCU has hit rock bottom when they changed the titles for Agatha and Captain America 4 a dozen times and barely anyone took notice
>gotg3 GOOD
it was just okay
i’m worried for daredevil: born again. the netflix show is the only thing that came out of the MCU that i can truly call high-quality entertainment.
>Guardians of the Galaxy Good
You fricking people are delusional.
>Stop liking what I don’t like
Unlike with the Thanos arc they have no plan, so they are literally throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.
>mfw Feige and Co. are in full-blown panic and trying to make Kingpin the street level Thanos
>they abandoned their original plans to reboot Daredevil and made the Netflix shit canon because they realized nobody likes the D+ shows
>even shoehorned Netflix Daredevil footage into the Echo trailers
Marvel mainly is for nerd manchildren again
Woke shit outweight quality.
They killed off all the good characters and replaced them with lame and boring versions.
This, along with kicking their feet up and assuming they'd be able to move forward on autopilot basically.
Really a brave move for them to take their foot off the gas pedal right after Endgame. They should have known a lot of people were going to check out after the Infinity Saga ended. Instead of baiting everyone with the next big storyline, they became completely directionless. How could they not have seen this coming?
>How could they not have seen this coming?
That's something I think about all the time. It's truly baffling. A few minor bumps aide, the MCU worked with Swiss precision all the way up to Endgame regardless of how one feels about the material. That savvy and foresight was completely absent at the end. My only guess is the downfall stemmed from hubris...the whole "too big to fail" mindset, so they spread themselves thin and phoned nearly everything in moving forward.
>NOBODY: COVEN OF LITERALLY WHO
Yeah, that will put butts in seats
UNFATHOMABLE BRAIN DAMAGE HAPPENED!
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FRICK!
This "phase" stuff is incredibly forced, maybe it made more sense in the buildup to Endgame when they were actually tying plot threads together more coherently
This.
Most of the successful phase stuff was retro actively applied, and wasn’t really a thing at the time.
The succes was always extremely over blown, Ironman, Thor (enjoyed for cringe kino only), avengers, avengers two.
That was it.
Everything else was coattails and stand alones
When is Morbius 2
>Ant-Man and the Wasp 3
The Ant-Man movies were doomed from the start, Hank and Janet both got replaced by Scott and a shitty OC character. Certainly doesn't help that this movie was also a CGI shitfest with garbage writing.
>Secret Invasion
Let's adapt a storyline about the Avengers getting infiltrated by evil shape-shifting aliens, and only include one Avenger. I wonder which Avenger is going to be an evil shape-shifting alien, could it be the only Avenger in this show? Writing was also ass, and there was no indication before this show that War Machine was ever a Skrull.
>Guardians 3
This was actually good.
>The Marvels
No-one likes Captain Marvel. You also had to watch three different TV shows before this movie.
>Loki S2
Apparently it was alright, although I wouldn't know because I didn't watch it.
>Echo
Didn't watch this one either, I don't think a show about a side character from the Hawkeye series sounds very exciting.
>Ironheart
No-one likes Ironheart.
>Agatha
Another show about a side character from a previous Marvel series. What an incredible idea.
>Daredevil Born Again
They've recently had to completely reshoot the entire show, which isn't a great sign. Apparently Punisher is going to be killing racist cops, because Marvel are still seething that a couple of idiot cops put the Punisher logo on their cars. I have a feeling this show won't be as good as the Netflix series.
>Captain America
They've also had to do multiple reshoots for this movie because apparently test audiences hate the villains. No Steve Rogers, no Bucky, no Zemo. But this movie does have Hulk villains, and a pro-Israel superhero. I'm sure the movie will do wonderfully.
>Thunderbolts
A movie about Bucky and a gazillion shitty side-charcters from previous movies. How exciting.
>Blade
The movie is in production hell because no-one at Marvel has realised that all people want from a Blade movie is a fun, R-rated, action-packed, vampire movie, where Blade fights Dracula and other vampires.
A movie about Bucky and a gazillion shitty side-charcters from previous movies. How exciting.
homie Bucky is sidelined in the movie
>Bucky is sidelined in the movie
If that's true, then I have no idea how they expect the movie to be a success. Bucky is the only character in Thunderbolts, anyone cares about.
>Guardians 3 was actually good
What the FRICK IS WRONG WITH YOU MORONS
I think the biggest problem is how they haven't addressed the most simple of issues.
>where are the Avengers
>who's in the Avengers
>what are they doing
There really should have been more discussions about who's going to be the new leader with Cap and Iron Man both gone. We had a Thor movie and a small part of the GotG movie where someone could have asked Thor why he was fricking off around in the universe instead of leading his team. You've had some pretty serious threats like a reality bender like Wanda taking over a whole town, and no one considered asking the Avengers for help. Falcon gets a mini series about becoming Captain America, leadership of the Avengers is never mentioned.
What they should have done is shown the Avengers were in a really bad shape as the major theme of phase 4. Their two figureheads Captain America and Iron Man were gone. Thor and Captain Marvel leaving to do their own thing. The power vacuum that the Avengers left behind becomes the direct cause of the creation of the Young Avengers. Phase 5 should be the creation of the Thunderbolts, because the government doesn't trust the Young Avengers to be responsible enough and shit. Phase 6 is when the big villain, Kang or whoever, finally shows his face to the public and everyone becomes aware of his existence. Wrap the multiverse saga up with the creation of the new, Multiverse Avengers. Kang is defeated, but because of some frick up, the main universe changes, queuing up the X-Men for the next saga.
nobody cares about any of this crap is what went wrong. I don't know what the frick disney was thinking.
>Second gen of heroes flopped hard. Nobody resonated with audiences
>the general tinfoil theory that all of this was setup for Hillary winning the presidency
>Pivoting on woman power, when almost all capshit revolves around males.
>cap marvel is setup to be the new leader, but holy shit everyone hates her
>even if Thor said 'I like this one', nobody gives a frick
>random denial of objective reality "nobody will know what you sacrificed, Wanda"
>in the mist of all of this you point all your bets on guardian of the galaxy tier of risk investment (indian elastic ms marvel, moon knight, eternals)
>secret invasion, but with no spy stuff and no "who is a skrull" mystery. The cartoon series did it better a decade ago.
>the general sensation that we are seeing random spinoff but not the main title.
>loki was the last bastion but he "dies" too
>your next big villain is being defeated over and over again.
>fukkin antman beat kang in a fist fight. This is your new Thanos
>but who cares because they needed to fire him. Lmao
WHERE'S THE ALPHA FLIGHT MOVIE, EH, YA HOSERS?
WHERE'S THE EXCALIBUR MOVIE YOU BLOODY COLONIALS?
LITERALLY NOBODY OUTSIDE THE US GIVES A FLYING FRICK AT A JAM TIN ROLLING DOWNHILL ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS AND STRONG GIRLBOSSES WHINING ABOUT HOW THE WHITE HETERONORMATIVE PATRIARCHY KEEPS THEM DOWN!
Although I dread to think what a modern day Excalibur or Alpha Flight cast would look like.
cant believe there are actually people still watching this shit.
unironically making women and minorities the main characters
the reality is that women and brown people cannot have the same presence as a white male.
People realized that they'd been watching formulaic shit for the last couple of years.
Capeshit is for chimpanzees and it was never good. Actual dark age of cinema tier.
Heavy tampering on the scripts by investors to follow ESG-DEI commitee demands, production was done by people more worried with nepotism or to teach the audience a lesson they never asked for, and no one were ever any competent or commited to the pieces.
Your younger years are never coming back, people. Disney is a corporation as much as McDonalds. It's exacly like eating that weird new gourmet burger with olives in it because someone on a comittee told it was healthier and a justification for paying more for it, and you keep eating and complaining the burger is more expensive and you don't even like olives. Go eat somewhere else for a change, the happy meal isn't happy anymore, read a fricking book
People don't realize how long the MCU has been around. To a lot of people Iron Man and all those early movies were part of their childhood. People were invested in the movies because of this, some more invested, some less. But they were all waiting for it to end. Endgame is that ending they were waiting for. Now the new MCU shit, they don't care about it anymore. They're too old to get invested in again, and that's why a lot of people stopped caring.
after endgame, i only liked moon knight... i wished it had more violence and occult tho... (not necessarily cgi monsters and shit)
Movies or franchises aren't fricking toys you can plan 5 years in advance.
>they ended the years long storyline and killed off 2 of the most popular characters which will naturally make a lot of people lose interest
>covid delays happened
>marvel thought that people were so hooked they would have the dedication to tune in every week for a streaming show about the side characters
>the first two disney plus series, wandavision and falcon and the winter soldier were pretty bad
>a lot of the movies since endgame are really bad
Literally everything in the bottom section but swap Agatha and DD. A good fricking Hulk movie would be so good right now with all the male frustration going around.
too many Black folk
Shifted to the lgtroonBlack person audience, which is just only 1% of the whole shabang, and the 99% didnt stick arround for the bullshittery
>the obvious conclusive aspect of thanos saga
>a lot of uninteresting projects, with a lot of them made just to fill minorities quotas (the woman superhero, the latina superhero...), with story and quality being secondary
>excess of content destroying the obligation to keep following, since it would be impossible anyway
>lack of a bigger thing tying everything together like thanos was, which used to mask the literal sitcoms these movies have always been
They got too wienery unironically.
From the outside looking in, it seems like DC has essentially become a more successful version of the Hamada-era DCEU. Lots of individually successful stories, lots of individual moving parts, but no real connective tissue.
That is just the inevitable circle of DC and Marvel capeshit
>Reset the timeline
>Fresh start so the stories is still in cohesion and easy to follow
>Forward 10 years
>trillions of crossovers, side stories and literally who characters all tangled together in a hot blended mess
>world building is out of window, nothing make sense anymore, writers casually pulling shit out of their asses and call it a day
>quality goes down so bad nobody gives a shit or buys anything
>reset the timeline
Its happening to the MCU, the marvel DC comic is a failed and outdated model
Well no. The story of DC was that they had a cohesive storyline, but then they threw it away in favor of individually successful movies and never had the ambition to re-connect the dots. They tries towards the end of the Vic run, but by that point we had flop after flop.
MCU has story arcs and is still building something, but they've decided to shove out a bunch of craps without really thinking how it works in the long run other than vaguely building towards a multiverse war.
>wanting to release 9 movies/tv shows in a single year
Like those gamblers who are too high on their past wins and then lose it all.
I always thought that a tv show supplementing a movie universe wasn’t that bad of an idea. Like Green Arrow from the tv show showing up as the DCEU’s Green Arrow for the Justice League would have been a neat idea. But seeing how the Disney+ shows turned out, now I don’t know. Maybe it’s the fact that there’s way too many Disney+ shows and the only show you would have theoretically had to watch was Arrow. I know technically there were other Arrowverse shows, but for the sake of argument let’s just say Green Arrow and maybe Flash were the only tv shows you had to follow.
The shows are marketed to an entirely different demographic in stay at home moms and especially blacks while the movies are still marketed to cucked, liberal manchildren.
it's all about execution. by the time they were rolling out shows they ran out of steam and were writing bad stories for characters no one cares about targeted at an audience that doesn't really care that much about superheroes.
Ironheart is so shit and unlikable that her show is fully filmed, but pushed back to 2025 anyways.
Putting the worldbuilding in TV shows nobody watched
they incorrectly assumed people would eat up whatever they shit out. this shit was already wearing thin by End Game, so the idea that they could just restart with a mostly new cast was just silly. people saw that as a perfect opportunity to get off the marvel train, and then felt vindicated since a lot of the new stuff got shat on anyway.
over saturation + declining quality + replacing the cast of characters = people stop giving a shit
>Wearing thin
It wasn't. Captain Marvel was just a fricking terrible movie with terrible casting.
Masculinity was the literal villain.
Women and israelites.
DChads stay winning
Making it so you have to follow the Disney+ shows to understand what the movies were about was a big mistake. Too many female centric projects lost the male audience and with them their girlfriends. All youre left with are ultra nerds/betas and autists. DC at least still follows the main characters
The source material
Bad transition, they needed Xmen and Fantastic Four but they prefer adding some Who characters. TV shows was a mistake, covid affected too. Spiderman gave them a good start but they ruined everything with those new characters. They only have GOTG, they need to explore the marvel universe with Nova Corps, even they can add ghost rider in space with Kino Cage and making a transition with Gosling (at the end of the day, Ghost Rider can recover all his face after flames).
>What went wrong?
Wasp wasn't sexy
But Captain Marvel makes up for that, right?
How could they be? The actress is a MtF troony
I'm so fricking glad capeshit is finally dying
I wish they could flop harder
normies realized they don't give a frick about minorities
not even minorities give a frick about them
That's the point though. They wanted to not care about capeshit movies, so they ruined them to free themselves.
Slavers
The movies suck and the people making them don't understand, or care, what made the first ones good.
THEY WEREN'T GOOD
THEY WERE PASSABLE/MEDIOCRE
THEY ARE NOW COMPLETE AND TOTAL SHIT
Donald Trump buck broke hollyisraelite and they got mind fricked beyond repair with trump dreangement syndrome
hiring shit woke writers and directors instead of going for old school fans & filmmakers
it was on a good track until lgbthdtv/feminism/israelite homosexualry.
This is the truth, since before all the progressive homosexualry , we were enjoying entertainment just fine.
EXACTLY. They sucked the joy out of everything
You know.
They've gone past the natural end point
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