because live action peter parker has been done to death, i don't think animating him would have made a difference, live action peter ~ mario in popularity, animated peter <<< animated mario
Did you actually stop and think about this, as if the next Peter Parker Spider Man film won't do a billion easy as long as it's not below mediocre.
They could have just made a Spider Man 3d, young Peter Parker, him meeting a bunch of varied Spidermen and Spiderwomen, team up fight designated villain, boom, billion easy.
It's not just Miles Morales. They made Gwen look like shit to appeal more to "average girls" and every other spider chick was some ugly black girl. The movie had no romance or hot women that young girls would want to cosplay as. No movie that revolves around sheboons will ever have cultural relevance.
>what went wrong?
28% international box office....that's fricking grim. I didn't expect the rest of the world to reject this movie so thoroughly. I mean, not even the little mermaid tanked THIS badly internationally.
Now when I think about it, you are right. The only white spiderman is the lame dad who is boring everybody with his kid. On the other hand we have a cool black woman, a cool black guy, a cool indian and a cool latino, paired with our cool black hero and another cool black woman who has a conscience and supports our hero. Oh and I almost forgot a white blond woman who is love interest to our main cool black guy while she is in a relationship with another cool black guy.
I will never ever like Miles no matter how much they shill him. Quite the opposite. The more they shill him, the more I actively dislike him. Peter is the only Spider-Man
is produced by people who like to deconstruct the characters and Spider-Man universe started with the awful organics webs in 2000 and today Amy Pascal decides to make Miles the most powerful Spider of all and gay and Gwen a skely trannie, has many elements that made this franchise a box office disaster:
Blackwashing
Gay elements that no one asked for
Characters are too ugly all without exception
Amy Pascal and Sony forget the basics of the superhero universe, they have to be hot
It surpassed the first film's run in less than two weeks, so it's not like it's flopping. And it's only competition (Transformers) is a mutt film so it's not like people are avoiding it because of the Black person lead. Reality is that MCUtards only care for CGI schlock and aren't that interested in an animated spider-man film
Are you forgetting about No Way Home?
The last Spider-Man film released in theaters made over a billion dollars despite also coasting mostly on multiverse cameo bullshit. ATSV doing better than ITSV doesn't mean dick if NMH still drawfs both in financial success as well as having similar appeals (Spider-Man interacting with other versions of Spider-Man).
Can someone edit that Scorcese pic where he says "This is cinema" by giving him a Mario hat? Not asking for much and you'll be eternally based if you do.
Yep. That's the part the shills, Blackspammers and redditors don't get. Sony has now made "That gay spiderman with the troony girlfriend" and hats all the headline-reading normie parents need to know.
At this point, even if it's 100% not true, normies have all heard that it's got a troony, so they're staying away.
Gwen being trans would make the mainstream spider-woman actually male, meaning "ally" feminist women are content with being represented by a boy having gay sex with a black spider-man.
I know you are shitposting but shit like this legit damages the film´s public perception in some countries. Even if the "Gwen is trans" shit is completely made up by delusional people, the constant push for it sours the movie for people who are not comfortable with that type of shit, which make explain why the film is underpeforming internationally.
Its like the 10th spiderman movie in 20 years compared to the first Mario movie in 30. Spider verse will likely three peat the Oscars and make 700 mil with 2, 900+ mil with Beyond anyway
It's an interesting example of how you can't appeal to everyone. This movie is now the highest rated of all time on letterboxd because it appeals to that demographic (hyperactive zoomers who like the core concept of "spider man is a white man and that's not okay, let's change that."). It's also doing well in america because that country's modern religion is literally to worship black people. But at the same time it's not doing well at the international box office because most people in the world are not american zoomers.
The hyper-stylized animation might bode well with animation buffs, but its off putting for most people.
I don´t even consider myself a normalgay but even I find it distracting and headache induncing.
Mario had the whole theaters to itself for a month. Spiderverse only had a week before losing theaters to transformers, flash, elemental, and Indiana. It was never going to beat it.
you guys should be glad that it's Miles being portrayed in movies and not Parker
because what writers did to Peter in the last decade is criminal
how about having norm cucked him and it's revealed he took Gwen's virginity? how about him being cucked by both Gwen and mj? and later off by Felicia too?
and do you even know what happened in the latest releases? MJ and a literal who self insert end up in a parallel universe, where time moves differently.. while waiting for Peter to rescue them, they frick and have kids
oh and in the recent multiverse comics? spider-woman gets shanked and gets erased from all existence (silk too)
so yeah be happy with normal Miles Morales
>and do you even know what happened in the latest releases? MJ and a literal who self insert end up in a parallel universe, where time moves differently.. while waiting for Peter to rescue them, they frick and have kids
i will never forgive them
probably the fact that mario is much bigger than miles morales and that mario is easy for a little kid to enjoy unlike spider-verse
who forced them to use Miles Morales though? If this was starring Peter Parker it would easily clear a billion.
because live action peter parker has been done to death, i don't think animating him would have made a difference, live action peter ~ mario in popularity, animated peter <<< animated mario
Did you actually stop and think about this, as if the next Peter Parker Spider Man film won't do a billion easy as long as it's not below mediocre.
They could have just made a Spider Man 3d, young Peter Parker, him meeting a bunch of varied Spidermen and Spiderwomen, team up fight designated villain, boom, billion easy.
I found loser peter b parker more interesting than the rest, should have made him the lead dealing with his mid life crisis
Making a full Peter B Parker movie with a satisfying ending would mog the mainline Spider-man comics in their entirety. They literally cant do it.
>hey lets do a spideman origin again but this time without peter parker and replaced by a black kid
Genius
The last live action Spider-Man drew nearly $2B.
>who forced them to use Miles Morales though?
Miles Morales didn't catch on so they're trying to force him everywhere.
It's not just Miles Morales. They made Gwen look like shit to appeal more to "average girls" and every other spider chick was some ugly black girl. The movie had no romance or hot women that young girls would want to cosplay as. No movie that revolves around sheboons will ever have cultural relevance.
Black folk
>what went wrong?
28% international box office....that's fricking grim. I didn't expect the rest of the world to reject this movie so thoroughly. I mean, not even the little mermaid tanked THIS badly internationally.
>Film exceeds expectations domestically
>"Heh, well... that means the international is a smaller percentage of the gross... We win again!"
Meds. Now.
Well, I'm telling you why the movie can't compete with the Mario movie. No movie with such a weak international box office can ever reach a billion.
>28% international box office
It isn't. Box Office mojo still hasn't updated the foreign numbers
they made spiderman black, and they also made all the alt universe spidermen black too?
im not interest in BET programming.
Now when I think about it, you are right. The only white spiderman is the lame dad who is boring everybody with his kid. On the other hand we have a cool black woman, a cool black guy, a cool indian and a cool latino, paired with our cool black hero and another cool black woman who has a conscience and supports our hero. Oh and I almost forgot a white blond woman who is love interest to our main cool black guy while she is in a relationship with another cool black guy.
excellence
Also said blonde white woman might be trans too so...
The boring dad is the only spider-man the fans give a shit about.
That just mean they are going to double down on the representation in the next film.
I will never ever like Miles no matter how much they shill him. Quite the opposite. The more they shill him, the more I actively dislike him. Peter is the only Spider-Man
is produced by people who like to deconstruct the characters and Spider-Man universe started with the awful organics webs in 2000 and today Amy Pascal decides to make Miles the most powerful Spider of all and gay and Gwen a skely trannie, has many elements that made this franchise a box office disaster:
Blackwashing
Gay elements that no one asked for
Characters are too ugly all without exception
Amy Pascal and Sony forget the basics of the superhero universe, they have to be hot
They didnt have the feminine balls to make gwen a proper troony.
It surpassed the first film's run in less than two weeks, so it's not like it's flopping. And it's only competition (Transformers) is a mutt film so it's not like people are avoiding it because of the Black person lead. Reality is that MCUtards only care for CGI schlock and aren't that interested in an animated spider-man film
How is spiderverse not cgi schlocK?
the first film made only 300 million total?
It made like 380m total, this new sequel is passing over 400m.
Are you forgetting about No Way Home?
The last Spider-Man film released in theaters made over a billion dollars despite also coasting mostly on multiverse cameo bullshit. ATSV doing better than ITSV doesn't mean dick if NMH still drawfs both in financial success as well as having similar appeals (Spider-Man interacting with other versions of Spider-Man).
You're comparing apples and oranges. There's not a single animated movie in the top 10 grossing films of all time.
Spiderman isn’t popular in general
The white man wins again, as usual.
>inb4 "HURR, Italians aren't white! XD"
Mario has blue eyes, therefore he's white. PERIOD. Frick off. lol
>Verification not required.
>Italians aren't White
This was a joke that the shitbois got too excited about because then Whites can't claim Rome. That's it.
Italian aren't even roman
We won.
Can someone edit that Scorcese pic where he says "This is cinema" by giving him a Mario hat? Not asking for much and you'll be eternally based if you do.
i dunno
>not posting the original
Cinemaphile trannies still haven't recovered from this I see
Gwen being trans didn't help the movie's box office
At this point, even if it's 100% not true, normies have all heard that it's got a troony, so they're staying away.
Yep. That's the part the shills, Blackspammers and redditors don't get. Sony has now made "That gay spiderman with the troony girlfriend" and hats all the headline-reading normie parents need to know.
Gwen being trans would make the mainstream spider-woman actually male, meaning "ally" feminist women are content with being represented by a boy having gay sex with a black spider-man.
I know you are shitposting but shit like this legit damages the film´s public perception in some countries. Even if the "Gwen is trans" shit is completely made up by delusional people, the constant push for it sours the movie for people who are not comfortable with that type of shit, which make explain why the film is underpeforming internationally.
Its like the 10th spiderman movie in 20 years compared to the first Mario movie in 30. Spider verse will likely three peat the Oscars and make 700 mil with 2, 900+ mil with Beyond anyway
Superhero multiverse fatigue. It was cute as a one-off gimmick but given Marvel is going that way too shit is looking played out.
no one with a single grain of salt in his head really likes Bendis's shit OCs and that's a fact. Miguel should have been the only true protagonist
It's an interesting example of how you can't appeal to everyone. This movie is now the highest rated of all time on letterboxd because it appeals to that demographic (hyperactive zoomers who like the core concept of "spider man is a white man and that's not okay, let's change that."). It's also doing well in america because that country's modern religion is literally to worship black people. But at the same time it's not doing well at the international box office because most people in the world are not american zoomers.
the age of mario is here
Transphobia.
The hyper-stylized animation might bode well with animation buffs, but its off putting for most people.
I don´t even consider myself a normalgay but even I find it distracting and headache induncing.
Mario had the whole theaters to itself for a month. Spiderverse only had a week before losing theaters to transformers, flash, elemental, and Indiana. It was never going to beat it.
Mario is soulful and for families, Spider-Verse is soulless and for trannies.
>Free rides!
you guys should be glad that it's Miles being portrayed in movies and not Parker
because what writers did to Peter in the last decade is criminal
how about having norm cucked him and it's revealed he took Gwen's virginity? how about him being cucked by both Gwen and mj? and later off by Felicia too?
and do you even know what happened in the latest releases? MJ and a literal who self insert end up in a parallel universe, where time moves differently.. while waiting for Peter to rescue them, they frick and have kids
oh and in the recent multiverse comics? spider-woman gets shanked and gets erased from all existence (silk too)
so yeah be happy with normal Miles Morales
>and do you even know what happened in the latest releases? MJ and a literal who self insert end up in a parallel universe, where time moves differently.. while waiting for Peter to rescue them, they frick and have kids
i will never forgive them
>they ruined these characters in the latest comics!
This could have been a tragedy, had anyone ever read them.
ywnbaw
You ever wonder if old beloved characters getting raped by nihilistic leftoid authors is one of the main reasons nobody actually reads comics anymore?