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Avatar beat Endgame for a highest-gross box office.
They scammed everyone though
Did people not like this movie? Why cause of the time travel thing?
The absolute best part was Iron Man demanding they keep the five years of hell everyone on the planet went through. He basically created or otherwise empowerment of so many villains, it's great that his legacy is monstrous levels of PTSD and chaos as the entire fricking universe has to deal with everyone suddenly reappearing. Swear to god, for such a smart guy he's an idiot. He could have had Hulk wish to undo everything by making Thor aim for the head AND let Ironman have his dumbass daughter. But no, of course not. Instead even if we imagine Hulk's snap anticipated all the people who were dusted when on a ship or airplane (to name a few potential snarls) it doesn't help all the people who succumbed to heartbreak and died early or committed suicide because of what Thanos did. Gets glossed over in favor of the issue with jobs and housing and ineffectual government aid groups to displaced peoples. Hell, people think the supply chain was bad after Covid shit? Imagine five years of scaling back industries and farming since they only had half as many mouths to feed, now suddenly the world population is doubled (and not just people but animals, too). It would be a monumental headache and result in much more suffering and even deaths than what we've seen in Falcon Dude and Winter Guy.
This. All fictional characters should be emotionless beings of pure logic who never ever ever make mistakes, or do anything irrational. Every plot should be resolved before it even gets a chance to begin, and then the rest of the plot should be the characters all standing perfectly still, staring into space, and not doing anything that could possibly trigger my autisms. Zere vill be nein fun in mein fiction.
Oh, frick off. It's not like time was ticking down and Tony had to make a quick, rash, emotional decision and he made a mistake in the heat of the moment. They sat down and rationally discussed and planned the time heist for days, if not weeks, and they all decided "Why should we spare the entire universe the pain of the Blip when we could not and also cause them many more problems on top of that?"
How about they just go back and prevent the fricking big bang from happening so there's no universe to be threatened and no villains to threaten it? How about they just go back and strangle Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko in the crib so the comics never even get made? How about they travel back in time and prevent you from being molested by your dad so you don't become such a raging homosexual?
Now magnify this by remembering that it's not just earth but every planet in the universe.
Stark was a selfish fricking idiot who caused immeasurable damage to countless lives undoing the snap just so he could keep his daughter.
Time travel slop
Yeah. It was just such a contrived way to pull it off after they wrote themselves in a corner
I dontt know shit about comics, but is there any anon around whos read them here to tell me how they did it in the original version? I know apparently he still snaps and kills half the universe in that, but how do they fix it? Is it time travel bullshit again?
nothing, it's a perfect ending to the core avengers characters and their story arcs
steve's arc is obviously the strongest since markus/mcfeely also wrote the cap trilogy as well
>expecting capeshit to be more than capeshit
there you go
Choosing to do a Time Travel plot.
Losing out on Chris Evans, Iron Man was never exactly the kind of movies that were good, but Captain America's were.
I prefer the Iron Man movies. Captain America 3 was literally a split between the 2 of them
OP being born moronic is what went wrong. Ain't no time-travel and infinity stone gonna fix you.
well when they went to the other timelines to retrieve the infinity stones, the wrong Nebula came back and infiltrated the Avengers compound, bringing her own timeline's Thanos and his starship full of his army back as well, so then Thanos tried to kill the Avengers and take the infinity stones for himself but the Avengers fought back and in the process the compound was destroyed and Tony Stark was killed, so it was pyrrhic victory at best
I'm surprised you couldn't get that from the movie it was pretty heavily signposted along the way but also it's one of the most famous and well known movies of the century so really you could have inferred most of what you missed from other people talking about it
to be perfectly honest op you've made yourself look foolish
>the rat freeing Ant-Man was fricking stupid
>went a bit too heavy into 'member this' territory
>extension of the above point: time travel bit went on too long. It was cool to see some of the call backs but it didn't need to be a whole half hour.
>Hulk was made Thanos' b***h last movie and was essentially killed off between films and never came back
>the Thanos that fought the Avengers at full power was basically a complete stranger to them and the original died a pitiful, ceremonial death.
>2014 Thanos arrives with no warning or fanfare while OG Thanos' arrival was a worldwide event
>cap time travel plot hole
I'm on the fence about Tony's snap. Bringing back half the population sounds like a problem but I can see why he wouldn't want to erase his daughter from existence.
>Hulk was made Thanos' b***h last movie and was essentially killed off between films and never came back
hulk deserved a longer version of the carol/thanos fight. i wanted to see savage hulk beat the shit out of thanos, he tries the power gem bullshit, hulk just gets more pissed off and thanos has to use the space gem to save himself
It was boring in comparison to Infinity War
Everything, nothing about the movie makes any sense
Pym particles are literally shown not to be a limited resource because you can replenish them infinitely by using one to go back in time and bringing back more than you went with
And yet they still pretend like there's urgency or a ticking clock narrative
Worst of all is 2014 Thanos who is the most moronic villain of all time. Why the frick did he want to hop over to another timeline and finish up what an unrelated version of Thanos did instead of staying in his own and succeeding with his new knowledge
We know that (somehow) Steve put the stones back into the same time and place as when they were found so it's not like 2014 Thanos is missing anything to complete his own timeline's conquest with
Dr. Strange is able to just create gigantic portals between any places in the galaxy and yet in Infinity War a major plot point was that he and Tony were stuck on the ship to Titan
Every Marvel movie falls apart with a few minutes of reasoning but the severe degree Endgame falls to is unique
>o back in time and bringing back more than you went with
did you not listen to the explanation of why they can't just take the stones from their own timeline
>Why the frick did he want to hop over to another timeline
because he thinks its his future and wants to go there and prevent the future Avengers from undoing the snap after learning that they're gonna kill him and do that
>Dr. Strange is able to just create gigantic portals
he's only ever been shown to create portals between places he can visualize
even in MoM he had to be transported between universes by America Chavez, despite being at the height of his power
but he's also repeatedly shown to maintain his velocity when he travels through a portal, so a portal on a ship traveling faster than the speed of light probably does bad things
if you'd finish your GED you'd be able to understand these very simple plot points that literally every normal human mind can grasp
>he's only ever been shown to create portals between places he can visualize
>but he's also repeatedly shown to maintain his velocity when he travels through a portal, so a portal on a ship traveling faster than the speed of light probably does bad things
Not that anon, but I'm pretty sure Strange can visualize Earth. And the second point about velocity is never spoken anywhere by anyone in any movie. They're stable enough on the ship, it's not like the speed and force are causing Tony, Strange, and Peter to go flying up against the wall. If that was something they wanted to get across, they really should've had Strange try to create a portal and fail instead of leaving it up to fans to theorize about if magic portals can work in spaceships or not.
>did you not listen to the explanation of why they can't just take the stones from their own timeline
Pym particles not stones, read moron
If you're going to argue that taking Pym particles ruins their timeline then you're arguing that the solution that the Avengers came up with ruined their timeline. Because getting more Pym particles is literally what they did
>because he thinks its his future
So he's a fricking idiot then, considering his history has already diverged from the one in Nebula's memory banks
>he's only ever been shown to create portals between places he can visualize
Right, so what's stopping him from immediately going fricking off to Earth right after they crash on Titan instead of waiting for Thanos to show up like a bunch of morons
>if you'd finish your GED you'd be able to understand these very simple plot points that literally every normal human mind can grasp
If you were actually capable of reasoning at beyond a surface level you'd have dumped this shit franchise years ago
>Oh man, half the universe just died! What do we do?
>Well, with time travel--
And I was immediately no longer emotionally invested. I've never seen such a major motion picture realize on-screen that it's written itself into a corner. If Nebula hadn't had a wi-fi glitch, the entire time heist would've just been a prolonged errand without any problems whatsoever. Thanos with the Infinity Stones was effectively beaten by Spider-Man, Drax, and Mantis, while Thanos without the Stones overpowers and very nearly kills Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor (wielding both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker, which ignored a power blast from all six Stones). The Avengers simply undo the Blip instead of prevent it, which as we've seen in subsequent entries has caused more problems than it solved, just because Tony has a three year old. Literally the only thing keeping the Avengers from having it all is that they're not buttholes and care about the other timelines (which would likely just get pruned anyway), otherwise they could literally just keep the Stones and use their time machine to nab Tony, Natasha, and Vision right before their deaths and have a happily ever after with the Stones acting as the ultimate "You wanna frick around and find out?" for any potential villains or invading entities.
It's success bred jealousy
Literally nothing, it was kino. Everything a blockbuster should be. I really did like it a lot- all the writing made perfect sense to me and the way they chose to do things, like the diner scene to explain Smart Hulk, was very clever
Too successful and nothing can surpass it
Nothing, it's the best movie ever made and I'll never get tired of repeating it
Its just underwhelming after infinity war
It was a victory lap that they didn't stop at.
no colours, srs, since the execs made them switch to digital for money saving, the colours look so ass, check since iron man 3
that's the main problem, keeping jeremy renner's boring hawkeye alive
not giving having spider-man talk to ant-man or thor
no she-hulk
if you quote my posts, refuting them, i will appear in your room and kill you
Am I the only that though Cap should've sacrificed himself by doing the snap? Really missed out on a back and forth between Thanos and Cap
>I am inevitable
>I can do this all day
time travel always leads to logic holes
most of the movie is just a member berries fest
killing off IW Thanos and replacing him with a less interesting thanos was full on moronic
cap's arc goes against the themes in his story of moving on
really this movie is a complete mess