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>$6,000 a night for a cramped room with no windows
lmao
This. They embezzled a billion dollars and couldn't even put cheap LCDs on "windows" to simulate a starfield
>$6,000 per night
For a nearly identical price, I was able to get a weeklong vacation in Portland and Seattle that included
>exclusive overnight ride on one of the handful of private Pullman sleeper cars still running in the United States
>staying in two of Seattle and Portland's most exclusive hotels
>tours of the Columbia River Gorge, the Space Needle, and Bainbridge Island
>free breakfast and dinner, including endless booze
>family reunion I was able to attend
>return trip on aboard sleeper class on the Coast Starlight
Talk about a fricking ripoff
soi wars fans don't want any of that. they want to CONSOOOOOOM
That you on the left, anon? Looking a little rough.
I went on holiday for 5 months for half that amount, scuba diving, mountain trekking, sailing - including all food and lodgings.
it was 10 years ago, but I bet I could do it again for cheaper than your week.
this is it going right. i'm proud of star wars fans for not letting disney milk them like the addicts they are. not what i predicted when disney wars started.
>not letting disney milk them
Uh
I think it's more that they couldn't afford it
Nah, Disney+ subscriptions are pitiful and merchandise sales are down 60% from before Disney bought the franchise, and in 2012 there hadn't been a new movie in 8 years. That was all Clone Wars, OT nostalgia, and EU money and Disney gave it the flush.
>tfw we were on the verge of a STAR WARS video game renaissance right before Lucas sold it
>tfw new Dark Forces/Jedi Knight
>tfw 1313
>tfw Maul game
>tfw Battlefront 3 with simultaneous and seamless transitions between space and planetary battles
John Boyega's sweaty face
KK and JJ
Is that Ahsoka on the right?
no it's ahjokah
>way too expensive
>disquel themed instead of the OT
>cramped quarters, basically put in a windowless closet while you and your kids sleep on benches
>have to participate in some gay play
If the hotel rooms were actually decent and it was based on the OT, people might consider it. Or if the rooms were cramped to fit into the ship vibe, but it was marketed for 30 year olds who still like Star Wars instead of entire families and the price was massively reduced it might have worked.
you are poor
>if it wasn’t made by disney, it might of worked
Correct
idk but i assume it had something to do with greedy out of touch business man delusion fueled by the money printer and 0% interest rate loans
yeah, that all sounds about right
Who wants to bet they’re going to re-open it as some other kind of super luxurious hotel, complete with early guest access for the park?
I’m going to bet they’ll tear out all the Star Wars stuff, out the rooms together, add windows, and make it into a resort that serves Five Star quality meals at for every meal.
Either that or they’ll use it as cheap housing for Cast & Crew.
>Either that or they’ll use it as cheap housing for Cast & Crew.
lmao they're going to use it as a disney jail and i say this without irony
Theyll reopen it as a fallout vault-experience next
They got real lazy about the exterior is the problem, it's just a shed really
its just a big metal warehouse
nah thats more money they have to drop to have windows and other hotel type outdoor areas and redesign everything. they fricked up. its gonna be used either for cast members housing, especially the ones there from abroad or other states via programs or to house the housekeepers. they hire housekeepers from cuba and puerto rico because its basically pennies for them via some program with said countries. disney florida does a lot of scummy shit like this btw this is just one example. if you ever been to disney in florida you'll notice the housekeepers and hotel staff are all puerto ricans, cubans, haitian, etc.
I genuinely believe Walt Disney and the precedent he set for his company has arrested the development of the gestalt American psyche.
only because no one who followed could live up to his genius
No, he was definitely part of the problem
>fixated on a saccharine, unnatural innocence
>rootless American perspective boils down story into a dialectic
>heroes don't learn anything, just get something
>struggles are never spiritual, only about getting something
>character virtue is defined by prudishness
>wanted sexy little girls
He really represents everything wrong with America
Doesn't seem like you've seen many Disney movies.
>wanted sexy little girls
>He really represents everything wrong with America
This is actually more pronounced OUTSIDE America dude. Why do you think the French won't extradite Roman Polanski or bat an eye at Luc Besson using his personal experience as an inspiration for Léon: The Professional?
>Why do you think the French won't extradite Roman Polanski or bat an eye at Luc Besson using his personal experience as an inspiration for Léon: The Professional?
because france is mostly still patriarchal in the positions of power, they don't have many women trying to grab younger demos and canceling people.
their culture literally prohibits this - once you start "cancelling" people they are literally one step away from saying "why are we just sending them to jail, why not just behead them...? seems easier. while we're doing that why not behead some billionaires in their sunny villas too?"
everyone stays on their toes to guard against that.
why won't the US extradite obama for bombing children
An adult themed version of this with twi'lek strippers set in Lucas-era star wars would work.
Just look up "The Empire Strips Back" burlesque.
>Just look up "The Empire Strips Back" burlesque.
Anon, they already shut down. I don't think they lasted more than a month and a half.
i would have loved a kashyyk kampground as a kid
A SW themed cruise ship with the interior looking like SW shit but the ability to go outside and catch some rays while going to tropical islands for the same price would have made tons of bank, especially if it would have been OT themed. Let the kids hang out on Endor with the Ewoks while mommy and daddy get wasted at the Tatooine cantina and catch a show with singing and dancing and a cabaret line of slave Leias.
But no.
buddy do you think disney has some kinda magical terraforming skills?
dubai has spent TRILLIONS on their sinking man made islands, disney is a poor billion dollar corpo still.
bro I think he literally meant just build it on some islands, not build islands for it
It was a dumb idea.
Why would anyone pay 6k to be forced through a shitty LARP experience
They would have been better off building the hotel into the Star Wars land with windows into the themed areas for views and then just had the hotel staff be acting as Star Wars characters for the theme charge 600 a night for the extra acting needs of the staff the thing would be sold out every night
The kind of people with the money for this sort of experience don’t want to be forced into windowless rooms and into I’ll thought out childish scavenger hunts and shit like that
you cant have hotels inside the park because everything lools ugly once you get up high. its all facades and tricks to make the parks look nice from the ground. its actually pretty interesting. once you get up high its just square builsingd and flat white roofs everywhere so hotels with windows would never work
>5 grand to stay in a capsule hotel for the weekend
Got to admire their hubris
The entire concept is profoundly moronic.
All they had to do is have a 1:1 replica of the main streets of Mos Eisley.
Then one large hangar with the insides resembling the Death Star.
Then one large hangar with the insides resembling the Cloud City.
Then one large area that looks like Jabba's palace.
People would walk around such locations, take selfies with people dressed in SW costumes and so on.
This shit would print money because people want to walk through those locations and so on... instead they make some sort of bizare knock-off "experience" where everything just looks like ass that barely resembles stuff from the movies.
>Have it be OT themed
This. I don't understand why they didn't pander to the star wars loving parents, they'll definitely bring their kids.
Just imagine walking through a hallway in a bar on Tattooine and ending up in the hangar from the Hoth battle.
Disney has the ability to do shit like this. Completely squandered.
Because doing that wouldn't sold more Rei toys.
It’s honestly an idea millennial theater nerd women would come up. Surprisingly enough, most LARPers are not entire families but grown men.
>Nepobabies have no business sense
Oy vey
Don't they already have something like that and the hotel is a seperate thing? but I bet they fricked that up too
Honestly I could understand demanding that guests cough up six grand for a stay on a full-sized Millennium Falcon replica. But based on what I've ready of this hotel, guest fees should have been $1,000 at most, preferably half that to ensure full booking.
Don't forget Prequels locations
>Aquarium built to resemble the Gungan City from The Phantom Menace
>1:1 recreation of the neon bar in Attack of the Clones (as a fully stocked bar of course), have a paid extra offering to sell you death sticks (pixie candy or something)
>Mustafar mining platform-themed theatre where they have two professional choreographers reenact Anakin and Obi-Wan's fateful duel every hour.
>Don't forget Prequels locations
>Super Nintendo World-esque podracing AR ride/game
>Buzzdroid shooting galleries
>Clone Cadet obstacle course(playground)
>Kamino water park
>Dex's motherfricking Diner
>Battle of Geonosis laser tag
>Coruscant Upper City Strip, main giftshop, restaurant, live entertainment center
>Theed Hotel/Resort
>LAAT Gunship gondolas
>ducks, lots of ducks
>Watto's Junkshop toystore, stocked with literally every STAR WARS toy, show, video game and movie currently in production/distribution
>General Grievous Utapau chase rollercoaster
>Coruscant airspeeder chase ride (I'm imagining something like Universal's BttF ride)
I've got a million of them. It's too easy. Notice I didn't mention lightsabers once either. I truly don't understand it. Disney had a proverbial blank check with STAR WARS and they ended up putting the date in the money field, the money on the signature line and signing on the date line. It has been so poorly mismanaged that it almost seems intentional.
Nintendo World-esque podracing AR ride/game
They were going to have a podracing roller coaster, apparently, but KK nixed it on the grounds that it didn't sufficiently magnify and glorify the Sequel Trilogy.
>Clone Cadet obstacle course(playground)
>Watto's Junkshop toystore, stocked with literally every STAR WARS toy, show, video game and movie currently in production/distribution
Those are wonderful ideas that would cost nothing, and of course will never be used.
Star Wars is gay and not cool anymore. It's now lamer to be a Star Wars fan than a Trekie, as Star Trek is at least not moronic and the bad new shows are basically "alternate timelines" that can be ignored.
The bad nutrek shows are all set in their prime timeline though, including Lower Decks which was called canon despite being obviously parody and couldn't exist in continuity.
I'm not disagreeing with you that star wars "is not cool anymore" though.
>ITT bitter white men who have never had sex know better than multibillion dollar companies
big yikes sweaty
you will never be a woman
the cope from this mf
Well since the multibillion dollar companies lost money, yeah, it looks like they did know better than the companies
>the multibillion dollar companies failed to give what the customers really want
Yes, it happens. And this is exactly what happened here.
Disney is at a five year low in their stock price anon. Multibillion dollar companies are run by people just as competent as bitter white men who have never had sex. Let that terrifying thought truly sink in.
>ITP a troony defending a multibillion dollar company
Thats all leftists do these days is bootlick massive corporations. Actually sad.
>Literally all it took to turn diehard anti corporate rebels into your fawning lapdogs was paint a rainbow on your products and spout a few canned political slogans
They will never actually recover from this.
They’ll only bootlick deeper from here on out. The corporations own them now. You won’t ever see an “occupy wallstreet” movement ever again, because the second a major corporation gets wind of it, they’ll dash their corporate logo with the LGBQT colors and millions of brainless, vapid leftists will forget that their movement ever had a single value or something to stand for, and retweet the company’s logo change
Poetry.
You realise Disney are permanently closing this attraction after less than a year of operation and losing $1 billion on it, right?
>Multibillion dollar companies can do no wrong chuds. You don't know what it is you want to buy. Just consume product
Big yikes sweaty.
>tranime
kys troony!
>>ITT bitter white men who have never had sex know better than multibillion dollar companies
>big yikes sweaty
Fricking saved. Lmfao.
I like the original more
Frick off /misc/ this is why Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile laugh at you.
this is /misc/
country
Before Disney:
>let's exploit these bitter white men who have never had sex and make tons of money
Under Disney:
>ha, look at those bitter white men who have never had sex, let's just ignore them
I'm actually curious if Disney even *has* a business model at this point.
Its almost as if they enjoy haemorrhaging their investor’s money
I could have told Sony Hyenas was a bad idea
>bait of this quality generated this many (You)s
Yes, we definitely know better than multibillion dollar companies. Keep seething and have a nice day, you bootlicking trannie. lol
How does that boot taste?!?FACT!!!
>all those (You)s
Come on Cinemaphile you’re better than this
Disney bought star wars
Are we really asking this again? ~~*Disney*~~ bought Star Wars like the Yankees buy talent. They think just dumping a boatload of money into something and putting the slop bucket out is enough to putting money. That’s why the parks are shit. The movies are shit. The TV shows shit. It’s literally just laziness and being out of touch. “Look how much Star Wars makes. Buy that. Milk it.” There’s nothing beyond that. It’s dead, move on.
Printing* money
Disney buying all of Fox is going to end up a massive mistake. They bought Zombie Fox shows and action movies from the 80s for $60 billion dollars they will be buried on Hulu and make no money at the box office. The only fox product that's made massive money in the past 20 years is Avatar.
You know they’re going to try to milk Avatar for every last drop too. Hopefully Cameron tells them to suck his dick
Cameron already wrote like 5 avatar movies and agreed to make at least 2 or 3 sequels before the disney deal. they can't say no to him and they wont have a chance to milk it when hes going to keep having total control over the movies which hes already decided where they're going
>George Lucas got into the movie business over a decade before James Cameron and yet Cameron's vision for his magnum opus will remain untainted from the Mouse because he actually bothered to write his contracts to ensure that he would maintain total creative control, while Lucas' will dragged through the mud until the franchise degenerates into irrelevancy
>Disney buying all of Fox is going to end up a massive mistake.
It might be, they're thinking of selling off ABC and other parts of Disney because they also have to buy out Comcast's share of Hulu.
>90s Yankees groomed the pettitte jeter posada rivera core and won 4 series
>90s Disney had the back to basics Renaissance
pottery
>$6k to go to prison
It was an unbelievably stupid idea from the get go and I have no idea how it ever even came to fruition
just redecorating one of their actual cruise ships with star wars crap would have been an infinitely better idea
The President, the project manager, and the creatuve director were all women. Mystery solved.
>hire women, minorities and trannies
>lose money on terrible ideas
>hire men
>get sued for discrimination, lose money
At this point it's just which lane loses less money
Geez Louise, could it all be a psy-op against the old US of A?
see
they've all done it out of fear and now everything is dogshit.
can't believe things peaked in the dismal 1950s, what a way to go out.
all that hope and aspirations of men for a better world, even near utopia, gone because of mutants
An extremely dumb idea just came into my head
>renovate the top decks of the Disney Magic to resemble Ahto City from Knights of the Old Republic
>all of the Disney cast members dress as Selkath
>the guest rooms are divided into the Republic and Sith Embassies from the game, with a neutral zone in the middle (dining areas, bars, and lounges where guests can be in peace)
>upon booking, passengers are split into Republic or Sith teams
>everyone gets a Sith or Republic Trooper costume, a nerf blaster, and a foam lightsaber
>during the three-day cruise, the two sides will fight a "war" for control of the ship, under specified rules (no breaking into people's individual rooms, "combat" is only allowed at certain hours of the day, no fighting in the neutral zone, no actual physical violence, etc.), violators will be taken to the Selkath court and banished to normie sections of the ship
What do you guys think?
>having to hear disney employees trying to make selkath sounds at each other
i don't know whether to laugh or to kill myself on the spot
No one wants to forcibly interact with other people unless they have to. Its a vacation, not work.
>No one wants to forcibly interact with other people unless they have to. Its a vacation, not work.
You should look up something called "Milsim West"
It cost $6000 dollaridoos
And there were no windows
>main "game" designed for very small children
>also very few fans like Nu-Wars enough to drop $6k on it
Their target demo was way too narrow.
Their target wasn’t Star Wars fans, it was Disney fans who like Star Wars because it’s part of the Disney umbrella
she looks like she touches kids.
Disney has to pay Lucas royalties for OT content/characters they re-use. That's why they push ST bull shit so hard and why they killed off OT characters right away, while pushing Dollar Store versions of them as "original." Maybe there's some social-political shit going on there too, but it's primarily about money with The Mouse. Stepping over dollars for dimes.
Even a century old company like Disney doesn’t understand that “you have to spend money to make money” wow.
I've heard this about Star Trek but is there evidence this is actually happening for Star Wars?
Also, how does it explain the Anakin and Vader appearances?
>Anakin and Vader appearances?
He's the Chosen One of the entire story? Disney Wars isn't canon
His face, Vader's, is the literal face of STAR WARS?
Darth Vader being one of the most famous and popular movie villains of all time?
Disney may be full of out of touch moronic boomers and idpol postwall roasties now but they're not moronic enough to not use their biggest draw. It'd be like making a Spider-Man movie without Spider-Man. Or a He-Man reboot where He-Man's only in 2 episodes.
>statement?
disney is making the mistake of catering to the die hard braindead moron fan than the average person by pricing everything too high. the average person can justify a couple grand on a trip to disney, but to get this full experience you're paying three times that.
Forced LARP
For free I would've taken them on a tour of my starships, I would've explained their divisions, classes, types and roles within the fleet as well as the evolving dynamics of the setting.
Disney should've paid me to set up an exhibit for them instead of a fricking Nu Wars theme park hotel.
Bra… are those satin sheets?
I don't know, my wife chose them
If a massive star wars dork like you can get a wife, then there’s hope for me yet.
I don't like Star Wars really, just some of the ship aesthetics. The setting itself is kind of boring.
Yeah. SW is sort of a dead end. There's really only so much "Light Side vs. Dark Side" that you can do before it goes stale. Star Trek has (or had) more potential because you have several major alien species to explore. So now we've got Vulcan history and philosophy, Klingon warrior culture and their own opera, we know about Cardassian history and art, Bajoran religion, the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, and so on. Star Wars lore is far more limited.
>Bra… are those satin sheets?
Look like bamboo cooling sheets like the one I have!!!FACT!!!
>6000 a night for 2 people for 2 days
Even if this was OT, not woke, and everything a Star Wars fan wanted, that price point is not sustainable.
I think this was part of Disney's push to try to brand Star Wars as a luxury brand, which does not work. Real rich people don't want to play space bingo and shit.
This is how you know that Disney hasn’t even come close to making their money back on their SW purchase from Lucas.
They’ve just desperately bled money on it since 2012 and now its beyond a point where they can even hope to break even on their initial investment.
is star wars super popular among billionaires/trillionaires/lizard ppl israelite elites?
that's the only thing that minutely explains the pricing.
it's not dubai - you can't buy a stripper, cum and shit on his/her face and then go out jetskiing with them. what is the appeal to a jaded high value man/woman?
wow, you/me have the same opinion as you/me, what a coincidence!! I was speaking with soneone and he/him/her/it/she/they/we/them said that i/me/you/we were/was a cool guy/gal/group. it is so strange/normal that a hotel/restaurant rents/hires rooms/corridors for so much money/for free!!!!!! do they eat/drink piss/shit every day/night????
have a nice day/your family/your band of trannies you disgusting fricking freak shit
>soneone
so close but so far
>an expensive asf star wars themed hotel based on absolutely nothing resembling star wars spectacularly failed.
Imagine my shock
Just in time for Halloween
They literally hired women.
Honestly Chapek's parks strategy was just milking rich foreign nationals and shit who see "going to Disney World" as some kind of prestige thing.
Chapek is a fall guy. It's all Bob Iger.
It's all Bob Iger, but Chapek was responsible for the parks for years before he became CEO in 2020, so you can blame him for the parks. That said Iger would still be to blame because it happened under his watch.
If you had an adult-oriented Star Wars experience where you got hammered in the cantina and swung light sabers around and were encouraged to cosplay it would probably make bank.
>Star Wars is not cool anymore
Well now I like it and there's nothing you can do about it
star wars has never been cool you fricking moron
No tender lovemaking with Megan
Can't wait for the Defunctland video
I am more amazed that it lasted this long. 6000 bucks for sleeping in a shitty plastic bunk and partaking in sad roleplay moments with cosplaying tired wagies? You'd have to give ME that money to engage in this shit
At 6k I could fly economy to Japan with the wife and kids and include hotel stays in budget size rooms and probably cost of food. This shit sounded ridiculous at any price point over 800.
High premium, not based on OT or sequels, literally prison. And it's probably subidized by the government to test how people take to being abducted en masse into underground facilities, Dr. Strangeglove style.
>And it's probably subidized by the government to test how people take to being abducted en masse into underground facilities, Dr. Strangeglove style.
They wouldn't need a fancy hotel where you shell out 6k for the experience for that, you could easily run a much cheaper and longer experiment for that under auspices of IRL space exploration.
NASA is actually running an experiment just like this on a much smaller scale right now.
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-seals-volunteers-into-isolated-habitat-for-year-long-experiment
the state of 'nasa'.
four clinicly moronic women speaking one after another, and a pack of söys and dykes participating in the experiment.
second woman speaking was a fat stunted baboon to top it off.
main speaker can barely say a sentence in english.
>four clinicly moronic women speaking one after another, and a pack of söys and dykes participating in the experiment.
Better they have the emotionally fragile expended on the test tbh
not really valid results if the freaks can be hospitalised for a panic attack from their latte having oat instead of sóy water put in it.
>"Welcome to your 2 night, $6000 stay at our luxury space-themed hotel."
I really don't understand why they didn't splurge on the exterior a bit, I get that the guests are supposed to not see the outside for immersion but it's really not a good look for promotional reasons
It was the Fyre Fest of Disney hotels.
Truthful answer is their other resorts are amazing without the premium price point. Not allowing people to leave I imagine was another deterrent, as those of us with money have illegal or amoral vices.
The films ST isnt that big of deal, bc despite Disney pandering, Star Wars is still almoster entirely OT centric by fans at the park. There are no families wearing “mom, dad, son, daughter” matching shirts with Poe or Finn’s but there sure as shit are with Vader, Luke and Yoda. Theres a fantastic bar in Hollywood studios, looks just like Star Wars OT. When you see this hotel, it just looks bland and dull.
Shame the great concept didnt fully commit to the OT, there is def a market for a premium Star Wars themed hotel
>Star Wars is still almoster entirely OT centric by fans at the park. There are no families wearing “mom, dad, son, daughter” matching shirts with Poe or Finn’s but there sure as shit are with Vader, Luke and Yoda. Theres a fantastic bar in Hollywood studios, looks just like Star Wars OT. When you see this hotel, it just looks bland and dull.
>Shame the great concept didnt fully commit to the OT, there is def a market for a premium Star Wars themed hotel
Why do the prequels never get any love? Most of the age bracket this is aimed at grew up watching that.
t. Prequels fan, wife is a prequels fan, kids will probably be prequels fans
Based prequelchad. I don't care what anyone says, I deeply love the prequels (warts and all) no matter what.
Oh shit does that mean that cute redhead from the webms is out of a job now?
See if this in Orlando why not make like a vacation resort in the glades in the kinda swampy areas? Call it Yoda’s Hut and you can train to be a padewan Jedi under Yoda. Charge 500 to a thousand dollars for a beach cabin. Instead of charging over 5000 dollars to sleep in a windowless closet with the nuSW space Nazis.
Go Woke Go Broke
Simple as.
Affluent families enjoy dropping into an upscale Star Wars themed experience for the day and then returning to a true hotel with a pool, spa and fitness center.
They should have copied the Vegas model: themed hotel with costumes and decorations, but on top of actual real hotel amenities so that mom and dad don't want to blow their brains out by day 2.
Star Wars fandom has fallen off since the early 2000's
Disney buried it to the ground.
The only thing left are some of the cartoons + video games.
Video gayme hermits sure as hell will never fricking go to shit hotels like that
It has no market.
>what went wrong Cinemaphile?
They misunderstood the appeal of Star Wars, or even worse they understood it but thought they could get away with discarding it.
It's a knight myth pretending to be a space opera. Young boys growing up to be mystical samurai with laser swords and magic powers, the viewer following their destinies, an aesthetically cool but evil empire, the struggle of good vs evil, etc. It draws on myths and fairy tales that modern writers don't understand, and it draws on a mix of genres only filmmakers who were alive during the 20th century know how to fully emulate.
If you're a very skilled filmmaker you can somewhat stray from this idea. Disney fully strayed from it without having skilled enough filmmakers to compensate. They tried to make Star Wars for little girls and their approach to Star Wars is devoid of any myth, at best it's just in awe of its own continuity. This approach permeates everything and ruins everything by association. Not surprised they're incapable of drawing kids in.
>They tried to make Star Wars for little girls
Funny thing is that my daughter fricking hates the Sequels even more than I do lol
>Funny thing is my daughter fricking even more than I do lol
chekt
>just in awe of its own continuity
well said.
i dislike the artificial expansion based on very limited information and just cloning until the mass is made of a thousand clones - no creativity.
an early example of it was the idea of there being a planet full of boba fetts, all wearing the exact same armour, all bounty hunters.
>what went wrong Cinemaphile?