no Aaron ehasz, them thinking it would just be 1 season and trying to cram it in, having 2 waterbender villains in a row, unclear vision for many supporting characters, ruining some of the mystique of the lore, and doing a soft reset for korra’s maturity each season.
but a lot of it was still really good.
This basically sums up all the major parts, yeah. As is the case with nearly all films, shows, and video games, the publisher / parent company frick everything up at the core. Changing the number of seasons on the writers, pushing and pulling deadlines, forcing the actual artists to adopt changes or creative elements they didn't want to use... none of that is a recipe for success, yet they do it over and over again.
Ehasz was really the missing magic touch.
Bryke is given way too much credit for all the good ideas in Avatar, when Ehasz was also extremely important.
>the concept of Republic City trampling Aang's life mission >not being promised more than one season causing rushing >staying in the goddamm city >trivializing a royal kekkei genkai
Imagine if the Ba-Sing-Se arc was the entire first season of the original series
>>the concept of Republic City trampling Aang's life mission
How so? Republic City was meant to be a place where all ethnicities could co-exist,especially after a war almost tore the world apart. It wasn’t Aangs fault that it devolved into being run by gangs. >staying in the goddamm city
That’s what I liked about ‘Korea’,that no matter what, Republic City was the core of the story,wether bad guys were using it to launch their master plan,or wanted to take it annex it. Also, I lied the modern vibes,and the retro futuristic look of that Metal Bending city.
People just get annoying about ‘Korea’ because maybe it didn’t live up to their expectations;but it was still good. And people,wether pro or con,get annoying about how Korra became gay at the end.
>How so? Republic City was meant to be a place where all ethnicities could co-exist,especially after a war almost tore the world apart. It wasn’t Aangs fault that it devolved into being run by gangs.
Not him.
Don't you think its a little bit unrealistic to have a bunch of different races/ethnicities living in the same place, after a 100 year war of ethnic genocide?
The city and the tech growth itself is unrealistic.
The main character is also a woman.
The tech growth wasn't.
It was basically that Fire Nation tech finally spread to the rest of the world.
Within only a few decades after WW2, Germany and Western Europe were heavily allied together.
Zuko was obviously a bleeding heart and gave tons of reparations to the Earth and Water kingdoms. So the bad blood would have found itself cleared reasonably soon.
Not him.
Late 1800s-1930s China would be a kino inspiration to draw from. The timeline still doesn't fit, It would be significantly less developed than what we saw in Korra with it's 80% magitech, 20% steampunk. Yes, even if they had literal magic abilities like in avatar world.
Republic City is basically equal and in some ways more advanced than modern living (the magitech). For aesthetic reasons they occasionally throw in a steam punk look like trains that have visible steam power, pneumatic tubes, factories that are supposed look more like early industrial revolution factories. But this is all insincere and any audience with half a brain can pick up on that. The cars look old timey in design but there's no indication that they are less powerful or functional than a modern Hyundai. After all, this is a society that builds mecha and modern skyscrapers like it's nothing.
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On top of all that bullshit they added fricking Gundams to the mix.
Imagine making Republic City be both shitty and subtle in context.
>Don't you think its a little bit unrealistic to have a bunch of different races/ethnicities living in the same place, after a 100 year war of ethnic genocide?
Backstory is that that was already happening. City was set up in one of the first colonies and after a hundred years the Fire and West Coast Earthbenders had a well known collaborative metallurgy industry going. They were so well integrated no one bothered with ethnic cleansing, deciding Frick it, they could have their own country.
Brings up question of what was the Earthbenders Policy there and how the locals felt about being collaborators though.
I suppose the general idea is that "Ba Sing Se is far away."
In china and the avatar world it wouldn't be unusual for some duke or general to start mucking about, so semi-hostile locals aren't a new concept.
>Republic City was meant to be a place where all ethnicities could co-exist
That's how so. The entire narrative of the original series is harmony through separation. The Fire Nation is bad because they're colonialists which upsets the balance. Then in the sequel a colony is maintained and presented as a good thing.
That wasn't the narrative at all.
Aang relied on a unification of the 4 elements together along with non-benders to beat the Fire Lord. Strength to cooperation was the key.
The Fire Nation was bad because they were supremacists. Not just because they unified territories.
All kinds of supremacists and isolationists were shown to be idiots or evil.
How do you read the message of the show that poorly?
>Aang relied on a unification of the 4 elements
Because he's the Avatar. Did we ever see any casual connection between the 4 nations outside of Air Nomads? >All kinds of supremacists and isolationists were shown to be idiots or evil
Kyoshi created her own island to isolate her people.
>Did we ever see any casual connection between the 4 nations outside of Air Nomads?
Yes, I was referring to the main Captain Planet party.
Together they were unified and stronger than when separated.
Look at Zuko, his ultimate power up was learning to combine Fire and Water Bending to redirect Lightning.
Kyoshi Island itself is shown to be very heterogeneous, and Kyoshi was put up as a 'non-ideal' Avatar. One that didn't have the Spiritual connection that Aang had and didn't come up with a non-violent way to stop the evil of her own age.
Aang developing his bending removal ability was what set him apart from previous Avatars, especially a failed one like Roku. An ability that relied on combining all the elements and was part of a plan that relied on Earth Benders, Fire Benders, Water Benders, and non-Benders cooperating. Hell, the White Lotus are a good version of the Illuminati, and they're all a mix of masters from around the globe.
The message was never a harmony with distance, it was, "the mixture is more potent than its components".
in the goddamm city
Korra hits the same locations besides the fire kingdom which was only a few episodes on the last season of TLA. In fact, Korra actually hits more main locations with the including of Republic City and the Zaofu.
iirc Bryke wanted to do a 6 or 8 episode miniseries but Nick kept expanding it and then said they want a full series halfway through season 1 production. So they had to change the s1 ending and didn't have anything ready for s2.
>Nothing it was fine. You just can’t compare it to the masterpiece of the original
My cellmate in hell, it is a direct continuation of the story; it cannot be divorced from the original.
3 world ending threats in 4 seasons was horrible. Spirit World becoming Ghibli was horrible. Most of the characters were horrible. Cop out way of bringing back the airbenders was horrible.
If all new airbenders were like Zehir gaining bending through sheer will it could've been cool to bring airbenders back. But the series started with FOUR extant airbenders and then random spirit bullshit making more, stupid
Beyond subjective gripes around the different setting + personalities of the main cast, the show blew its load in the first season because they thought they were only getting 1 season to start. >Most interesting concept, non-benders rising up against benders
Was burned through (with a shitty twist at the end), the next 3 seasons were just boring villain of the weeks
>>Most interesting concept, non-benders rising up against benders
By no means an original idea-people with powers needing to hide or surpress it in a modern world in order not to be a threat in society-it was cool to see the Avatar-twist on that concept.
The industrial revolution in Avatar new york was a bad setting for the show, I understand that they wanted to differentiate themselves from the original series, but Asian mysticism and orientalism was part of the charm of the original setting.
Besides the city being moronic we also lost the opportunity to see our main characters get to know each other and grow closer and they travel together.
In Korra all the morons are thrown into a giant place that already has a bunch of bullshit going on.
>what if we made this eastern inspired world into... le prohibition america!
moronic premise straight from the start, not even spike spiegel could save this trash
>next scene is young Korra being strangled in her sleep
Oh look! A new Avatar has been born! How convenient that we didn't have to deal with that petulant prior one!
Its like they made all the characters edgy awkward teens. They forced the lesbo ending ever though it made no sense or had any build up. Destroying the avatar state was moronic as well.
There was tons of build up.
Korra and Asami flirted all the time with each other.
That was one of the things they succeeded on getting right. Those two having a proper slow burn, but actual romantic build up.
Why are people living in the cold north brown?
Inuit can be pretty dark.
I think Avatar goes too dark though.
They leaned too hard on mixing in Polynesians.
Its like they made all the characters edgy awkward teens. They forced the lesbo ending ever though it made no sense or had any build up. Destroying the avatar state was moronic as well.
I agree with the korra/asami romance being built up and a slow burn, on rewatch you can clearly see the seeds planted and blooming throughout the series
>one of the things they succeeded on getting right. Those two having a proper slow burn, but actual romantic build up. >on rewatch you can clearly see the seeds planted and blooming throughout the series
meanwhile, Korra talking to other people on the show she wants to frick in the most rapiest chad way possible in a kids show
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Most of the story taking place in one location was fricking moronic. It's kind of just the same shit every episode for several seasons.
While Avatar was about traveling the world and seeing all these different places, Korra is stuck in this shithole city where people talk in repulsive old timey New York accents. Everything is about muh social struggles. They turned cool bending into this shitty X-men trash where people with powers are seen as mutants and the benders are at war with non-benders. You watch one episode of this shit and then you watch the next episode and it's still the same shit.
The fricking love triangle that turned into a love square was awful. All the bending sports episodes were moronic filler waste of time. Korra was the least likeable character in the entire Avatar universe.
What made me realize I can't watch this shit anymore is when I sat through several episodes of this slop just being bored and frustrated with how bad it is, and then it got this really bizarre ''how do you do my fellow kids?'' scene where Mako drives up to Korra with his ''awesome'' car and lifts his sunglasses with a ''cool'' oneliner and they all jump in the car to go fight crime. It was so cringe I stopped watching there and avoided anything Avatar for 10 years. Now I've watched all of Korra and holy shit it gets worse.
Set in not-1920 at a breakneck change in aesthetics from the fantasy feudal Asia with magic elemental martial arts they started with. The writers really liked this aesthetic but it was lowkey extremely damaging to the world building. Long term it wrote them into a corner in what to do. Notice how the best season, 3, was the most classic and could have easily taken place in the previous show or really any past time period.
Female protagonist. And Korra being Korra. I understand why they did it. It's total flip up from Aang. The anti-Aang story thread is kind of cleaver. But making it a girl was poor choice. I can't think of a single off hand example where a female protagonist has been a success. Writers just don't know how to do it. They can't write girls with accountability, flaws, or likability because they are too self conscious that it's a girl and "the message" so you always get these buttholes that the story gods try to gaslight you into regarding as right when they are clearly wrong/annoying. Result: we get an obnoxious frickup protagonist that is vaguely ruining your day when she's on screen.
Not having seasons for sure at the start.
Trying to cash in on shipping. Again this was exacerbated by writing from a female perspective. Both unconvincing in emotional execution and unappealing to the majority of your audience. Mako isn't terrible, not great either, but I don't want to vicariously frick him or really care about him at all.
Sticking to 1 city. Not exploring the world and bending. You know, that thing that made the first series famous?
Most of the shit that people dislike about Korra I'm fine with, like the spirit shit and retcon of bending, and even Korra losing her link to her ancestors. What I didn't like was the meddling by nickolodean (first telling them its 1 season only, then extending it, then cutting number of episodes in a season after its already begun production, removing the show from regular airing lineups, etc). I also really, really disliked the boring as fricking romance triangle bullshit involving korra, mako, bolin, and asami, but thankfully by season 2 they cut it down mostly and in season 3 it's finally done. The second season felt shitty to watch originally, because unaloq is a worse villain than amon, but on rewatch its got a lot that i like, like varik.
all in all I like it, and the girls are cute, but not as cute ty lee, although opal is close
They still control the industry, it's just that no one cares because cable is fricking dead and zoomers would rather watch youtubers then the 500 generic ""kids"" cartoons that are made between every streaming service now
Pop PolSci where everything can be solved with a wave of a wand in one season, downgrade in Bending animation, transplanting American political history into an Asianised world rather than asking "what kind of Democracy would three Asian absolute monarchies and a Theocracy actually allow?"
Hint, an absolute King would not think it wise to allow every man a vote. Input world we had wars over this.
>not a single adventure but a villain of the season format >retconning spirit world >le dark avatar >main cast having 0 chemistry while being bad characters on their own >one of the only standout characters gets flanderized over the course of following seasons >introducing side characters, getting bad reception and slowly fading them back into irrelevance >cgi shit >overuse of this unlikeable metalbender family
brown tomboy though
the problem is, the rest isn´t just meh, its bad.
not stuff thats just outright trash, not overly insulting, but bad. watching this years ago was a constant stream of dissapointment.
>What went wrong?
No one was in the writers room to wipe the drool from Bryke's face when he said something utterly moronic like "asian steampunk" or "dark avatar"
All the stuff that's wrong with it was already wrong in TLA. And by wrong I of course mean shitty romance subplots. You frickers promised me she was a raging dyke
The lead writers just did a worse job, also there were way less writers. Which did a number on the quality of the dialogue.
Avatar was really planned out, the idea for the whole show was more or less down by the time it went into production, Korra was a bit of a by-the-seat-of-their-pants production, and the main idea for the characters and first season was just way worse.
Also the change in setting reduced a lot of the show's appeal.
The ancient asiatic thing that ATLA had was way more compelling than the 1920s China town look of Korra
I think it mostly failed because people just don't understand the audience for animated cartoons anymore. They got the sexy lead okay, but where was the sexiness? Instead, it was really about the problems of a teenage girl. Boys don't connect with that. They watch female-lead cartoons for the hot girls.
>"I don't think they understand the audience for animated cartoons anymore"
Says the actual adult that sexualizes cartoons and complains that they didn't.
Korra is overall better. Higher highers, middling lows. It also had actual villains besides the looming thread of a sinister evil that wants to uh destroy the world. The action is significnatly better too. I would say the only area TLA wins is world building (because they have so many more episodes/filler to flesh out the world) and characters -- no Korra's side characters were better.
ai slop thread
nothing
turned it off during the first 5 minutes and never looked back
Not enough yuri
No overarching plot.
no Aaron ehasz, them thinking it would just be 1 season and trying to cram it in, having 2 waterbender villains in a row, unclear vision for many supporting characters, ruining some of the mystique of the lore, and doing a soft reset for korra’s maturity each season.
but a lot of it was still really good.
This basically sums up all the major parts, yeah. As is the case with nearly all films, shows, and video games, the publisher / parent company frick everything up at the core. Changing the number of seasons on the writers, pushing and pulling deadlines, forcing the actual artists to adopt changes or creative elements they didn't want to use... none of that is a recipe for success, yet they do it over and over again.
Ehasz was really the missing magic touch.
Bryke is given way too much credit for all the good ideas in Avatar, when Ehasz was also extremely important.
apparently they're both needed together, dragon prince which is ehasz without bryke apparently flounders a bunch (i havent watched it)
>the concept of Republic City trampling Aang's life mission
>not being promised more than one season causing rushing
>staying in the goddamm city
>trivializing a royal kekkei genkai
Imagine if the Ba-Sing-Se arc was the entire first season of the original series
>>the concept of Republic City trampling Aang's life mission
How so? Republic City was meant to be a place where all ethnicities could co-exist,especially after a war almost tore the world apart. It wasn’t Aangs fault that it devolved into being run by gangs.
>staying in the goddamm city
That’s what I liked about ‘Korea’,that no matter what, Republic City was the core of the story,wether bad guys were using it to launch their master plan,or wanted to take it annex it. Also, I lied the modern vibes,and the retro futuristic look of that Metal Bending city.
People just get annoying about ‘Korea’ because maybe it didn’t live up to their expectations;but it was still good. And people,wether pro or con,get annoying about how Korra became gay at the end.
>How so? Republic City was meant to be a place where all ethnicities could co-exist,especially after a war almost tore the world apart. It wasn’t Aangs fault that it devolved into being run by gangs.
Not him.
Don't you think its a little bit unrealistic to have a bunch of different races/ethnicities living in the same place, after a 100 year war of ethnic genocide?
The city and the tech growth itself is unrealistic.
The main character is also a woman.
The tech growth wasn't.
It was basically that Fire Nation tech finally spread to the rest of the world.
Within only a few decades after WW2, Germany and Western Europe were heavily allied together.
Zuko was obviously a bleeding heart and gave tons of reparations to the Earth and Water kingdoms. So the bad blood would have found itself cleared reasonably soon.
So you think going from a feudal shithole to having mechs and flying humminbird mechs makes sense?
Ever hear of China?
Not him.
Late 1800s-1930s China would be a kino inspiration to draw from. The timeline still doesn't fit, It would be significantly less developed than what we saw in Korra with it's 80% magitech, 20% steampunk. Yes, even if they had literal magic abilities like in avatar world.
Republic City is basically equal and in some ways more advanced than modern living (the magitech). For aesthetic reasons they occasionally throw in a steam punk look like trains that have visible steam power, pneumatic tubes, factories that are supposed look more like early industrial revolution factories. But this is all insincere and any audience with half a brain can pick up on that. The cars look old timey in design but there's no indication that they are less powerful or functional than a modern Hyundai. After all, this is a society that builds mecha and modern skyscrapers like it's nothing.
On top of all that bullshit they added fricking Gundams to the mix.
Imagine making Republic City be both shitty and subtle in context.
have you seen what new york looked like 100 years before it became a big city
>Don't you think its a little bit unrealistic to have a bunch of different races/ethnicities living in the same place, after a 100 year war of ethnic genocide?
Backstory is that that was already happening. City was set up in one of the first colonies and after a hundred years the Fire and West Coast Earthbenders had a well known collaborative metallurgy industry going. They were so well integrated no one bothered with ethnic cleansing, deciding Frick it, they could have their own country.
Brings up question of what was the Earthbenders Policy there and how the locals felt about being collaborators though.
I suppose the general idea is that "Ba Sing Se is far away."
In china and the avatar world it wouldn't be unusual for some duke or general to start mucking about, so semi-hostile locals aren't a new concept.
>Republic City was meant to be a place where all ethnicities could co-exist
That's how so. The entire narrative of the original series is harmony through separation. The Fire Nation is bad because they're colonialists which upsets the balance. Then in the sequel a colony is maintained and presented as a good thing.
That wasn't the narrative at all.
Aang relied on a unification of the 4 elements together along with non-benders to beat the Fire Lord. Strength to cooperation was the key.
The Fire Nation was bad because they were supremacists. Not just because they unified territories.
All kinds of supremacists and isolationists were shown to be idiots or evil.
How do you read the message of the show that poorly?
>Aang relied on a unification of the 4 elements
Because he's the Avatar. Did we ever see any casual connection between the 4 nations outside of Air Nomads?
>All kinds of supremacists and isolationists were shown to be idiots or evil
Kyoshi created her own island to isolate her people.
>Did we ever see any casual connection between the 4 nations outside of Air Nomads?
Yes, I was referring to the main Captain Planet party.
Together they were unified and stronger than when separated.
Look at Zuko, his ultimate power up was learning to combine Fire and Water Bending to redirect Lightning.
Kyoshi Island itself is shown to be very heterogeneous, and Kyoshi was put up as a 'non-ideal' Avatar. One that didn't have the Spiritual connection that Aang had and didn't come up with a non-violent way to stop the evil of her own age.
Aang developing his bending removal ability was what set him apart from previous Avatars, especially a failed one like Roku. An ability that relied on combining all the elements and was part of a plan that relied on Earth Benders, Fire Benders, Water Benders, and non-Benders cooperating. Hell, the White Lotus are a good version of the Illuminati, and they're all a mix of masters from around the globe.
The message was never a harmony with distance, it was, "the mixture is more potent than its components".
in the goddamm city
Korra hits the same locations besides the fire kingdom which was only a few episodes on the last season of TLA. In fact, Korra actually hits more main locations with the including of Republic City and the Zaofu.
iirc Bryke wanted to do a 6 or 8 episode miniseries but Nick kept expanding it and then said they want a full series halfway through season 1 production. So they had to change the s1 ending and didn't have anything ready for s2.
Anti-Whites making it woke.
Nothing it was fine. You just can’t compare it to the masterpiece of the original
>Nothing it was fine.
No it wasn't. It's concept was flawed from the start. You just eat up slop because you're more than likely a swarthoid.
Youre wrong and i dislike you
You're not white and I despise you for that.
>masterpiece of the original
ATLA is 5/10.
>Nothing it was fine. You just can’t compare it to the masterpiece of the original
My cellmate in hell, it is a direct continuation of the story; it cannot be divorced from the original.
>Nothing in it was fine. You just can’t compare it to the masterpiece of the original
Ftfy
3 world ending threats in 4 seasons was horrible. Spirit World becoming Ghibli was horrible. Most of the characters were horrible. Cop out way of bringing back the airbenders was horrible.
If all new airbenders were like Zehir gaining bending through sheer will it could've been cool to bring airbenders back. But the series started with FOUR extant airbenders and then random spirit bullshit making more, stupid
And this fricking cop-out where millions decide they are okay living an ascetic monk lifestyle and giving up meat.
Beyond subjective gripes around the different setting + personalities of the main cast, the show blew its load in the first season because they thought they were only getting 1 season to start.
>Most interesting concept, non-benders rising up against benders
Was burned through (with a shitty twist at the end), the next 3 seasons were just boring villain of the weeks
>>Most interesting concept, non-benders rising up against benders
By no means an original idea-people with powers needing to hide or surpress it in a modern world in order not to be a threat in society-it was cool to see the Avatar-twist on that concept.
all characters are 16+ thus dose not appeal to pedos
The industrial revolution in Avatar new york was a bad setting for the show, I understand that they wanted to differentiate themselves from the original series, but Asian mysticism and orientalism was part of the charm of the original setting.
Besides the city being moronic we also lost the opportunity to see our main characters get to know each other and grow closer and they travel together.
In Korra all the morons are thrown into a giant place that already has a bunch of bullshit going on.
>what if we made this eastern inspired world into... le prohibition america!
moronic premise straight from the start, not even spike spiegel could save this trash
Nothing. It was great.
Not enough of that emotionless water tribe psycho girl
>mfw "I'm the Avatar, you gotta deal with it!"
>next scene is young Korra being strangled in her sleep
Oh look! A new Avatar has been born! How convenient that we didn't have to deal with that petulant prior one!
How do you respond without sounding mad?
Lightning
The main characters were shit, especially Make and Bolin in that order
Nothing, it was a cool show. It’s expectations were WAY too high, but if you just try and enjoy it as it is,then it’s fun.
Not enough Whorra porn
Its like they made all the characters edgy awkward teens. They forced the lesbo ending ever though it made no sense or had any build up. Destroying the avatar state was moronic as well.
There was tons of build up.
Korra and Asami flirted all the time with each other.
That was one of the things they succeeded on getting right. Those two having a proper slow burn, but actual romantic build up.
Inuit can be pretty dark.
I think Avatar goes too dark though.
They leaned too hard on mixing in Polynesians.
I agree with the korra/asami romance being built up and a slow burn, on rewatch you can clearly see the seeds planted and blooming throughout the series
>one of the things they succeeded on getting right. Those two having a proper slow burn, but actual romantic build up.
>on rewatch you can clearly see the seeds planted and blooming throughout the series
meanwhile, Korra talking to other people on the show she wants to frick in the most rapiest chad way possible in a kids show
>Its like they made all the characters edgy awkward teens. They forced the lesbo
This is every piece of media ever created with tumblr in mind
Why are people living in the cold north brown?
Chud talk.
>Chud talk.
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holy meds
shouldn't inuits be dark skinned because you need sunscreen to deal with the sun reflecting off the ice
For season 2 specifically? Everything.
to many troonys and dykes
No Korra and Asami scissoring
Most of the story taking place in one location was fricking moronic. It's kind of just the same shit every episode for several seasons.
While Avatar was about traveling the world and seeing all these different places, Korra is stuck in this shithole city where people talk in repulsive old timey New York accents. Everything is about muh social struggles. They turned cool bending into this shitty X-men trash where people with powers are seen as mutants and the benders are at war with non-benders. You watch one episode of this shit and then you watch the next episode and it's still the same shit.
The fricking love triangle that turned into a love square was awful. All the bending sports episodes were moronic filler waste of time. Korra was the least likeable character in the entire Avatar universe.
What made me realize I can't watch this shit anymore is when I sat through several episodes of this slop just being bored and frustrated with how bad it is, and then it got this really bizarre ''how do you do my fellow kids?'' scene where Mako drives up to Korra with his ''awesome'' car and lifts his sunglasses with a ''cool'' oneliner and they all jump in the car to go fight crime. It was so cringe I stopped watching there and avoided anything Avatar for 10 years. Now I've watched all of Korra and holy shit it gets worse.
>Now I've watched all of Korra and holy shit it gets worse.
You like to employ masochism to combat your boredom, huh?
Set in not-1920 at a breakneck change in aesthetics from the fantasy feudal Asia with magic elemental martial arts they started with. The writers really liked this aesthetic but it was lowkey extremely damaging to the world building. Long term it wrote them into a corner in what to do. Notice how the best season, 3, was the most classic and could have easily taken place in the previous show or really any past time period.
Female protagonist. And Korra being Korra. I understand why they did it. It's total flip up from Aang. The anti-Aang story thread is kind of cleaver. But making it a girl was poor choice. I can't think of a single off hand example where a female protagonist has been a success. Writers just don't know how to do it. They can't write girls with accountability, flaws, or likability because they are too self conscious that it's a girl and "the message" so you always get these buttholes that the story gods try to gaslight you into regarding as right when they are clearly wrong/annoying. Result: we get an obnoxious frickup protagonist that is vaguely ruining your day when she's on screen.
Not having seasons for sure at the start.
Trying to cash in on shipping. Again this was exacerbated by writing from a female perspective. Both unconvincing in emotional execution and unappealing to the majority of your audience. Mako isn't terrible, not great either, but I don't want to vicariously frick him or really care about him at all.
Sticking to 1 city. Not exploring the world and bending. You know, that thing that made the first series famous?
Most of the shit that people dislike about Korra I'm fine with, like the spirit shit and retcon of bending, and even Korra losing her link to her ancestors. What I didn't like was the meddling by nickolodean (first telling them its 1 season only, then extending it, then cutting number of episodes in a season after its already begun production, removing the show from regular airing lineups, etc). I also really, really disliked the boring as fricking romance triangle bullshit involving korra, mako, bolin, and asami, but thankfully by season 2 they cut it down mostly and in season 3 it's finally done. The second season felt shitty to watch originally, because unaloq is a worse villain than amon, but on rewatch its got a lot that i like, like varik.
all in all I like it, and the girls are cute, but not as cute ty lee, although opal is close
Primary reason: Old writers left
Secondary reason: Leftism
Non reason: I hate Black folk
this but I also hate trannies, jannies, and israelites.
made in the era when sjws were starting to take over the cartoon industry
They still control the industry, it's just that no one cares because cable is fricking dead and zoomers would rather watch youtubers then the 500 generic ""kids"" cartoons that are made between every streaming service now
Pop PolSci where everything can be solved with a wave of a wand in one season, downgrade in Bending animation, transplanting American political history into an Asianised world rather than asking "what kind of Democracy would three Asian absolute monarchies and a Theocracy actually allow?"
Hint, an absolute King would not think it wise to allow every man a vote. Input world we had wars over this.
I want a Korra gf with a bush to sit on my face and make me eat her ass. That’s what I think about the show.
I want to humiliate Korra sexually alongside Asami in public
>Why yes I do listen to ATLA/Korra AMVs during my workout, how could you tell?
I like the one with mama said knock you out.
I never watch the official music videos of songs, only AMVs.
Me too, that's a great one
Falling in reverse, its over when its over was also a cool Korra amv. The zaheer one with cocaine was also not bad
Cool, never seen those before
Your mother sucks my penis
Based AMV listeners.
Not a fan of how flat the song is in that one, but the video is incredibly well-edited. I've always liked Does It Like A Dude more.
https://youtu.be/VZrGyXIXCCo
embarrassing
No vision. I guarantee you the pitch for this show was "What if the avatar was a teenage girl?"
I do not like the spirits in Korra, they were just goofy humans
>not a single adventure but a villain of the season format
>retconning spirit world
>le dark avatar
>main cast having 0 chemistry while being bad characters on their own
>one of the only standout characters gets flanderized over the course of following seasons
>introducing side characters, getting bad reception and slowly fading them back into irrelevance
>cgi shit
>overuse of this unlikeable metalbender family
brown tomboy though
>brown tomboy though
What if the brown tomboy was good too?
Could the rest have been meh?
the problem is, the rest isn´t just meh, its bad.
not stuff thats just outright trash, not overly insulting, but bad. watching this years ago was a constant stream of dissapointment.
>flanderized
It's been a while since I've seen this, who is this a reference to? Tenzin? Varrick? Bolin maybe?
>What went wrong?
No one was in the writers room to wipe the drool from Bryke's face when he said something utterly moronic like "asian steampunk" or "dark avatar"
All the stuff that's wrong with it was already wrong in TLA. And by wrong I of course mean shitty romance subplots. You frickers promised me she was a raging dyke
Nothing. It's a better comprehensive show than TLA. TLA is just a better adventure.
The lead writers just did a worse job, also there were way less writers. Which did a number on the quality of the dialogue.
Avatar was really planned out, the idea for the whole show was more or less down by the time it went into production, Korra was a bit of a by-the-seat-of-their-pants production, and the main idea for the characters and first season was just way worse.
Also the change in setting reduced a lot of the show's appeal.
The ancient asiatic thing that ATLA had was way more compelling than the 1920s China town look of Korra
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I think it mostly failed because people just don't understand the audience for animated cartoons anymore. They got the sexy lead okay, but where was the sexiness? Instead, it was really about the problems of a teenage girl. Boys don't connect with that. They watch female-lead cartoons for the hot girls.
>"I don't think they understand the audience for animated cartoons anymore"
Says the actual adult that sexualizes cartoons and complains that they didn't.
moron
Korra is overall better. Higher highers, middling lows. It also had actual villains besides the looming thread of a sinister evil that wants to uh destroy the world. The action is significnatly better too. I would say the only area TLA wins is world building (because they have so many more episodes/filler to flesh out the world) and characters -- no Korra's side characters were better.
Is the Avatar Version of the Disney Star Wars Sequel Trilogy