I mean it felt like 4-5 movies was mushed together into one. Main lead had no character same as main antagonists. Overall it was mega bland and boring.
It's too out there for the average movie-going audience, who are currently illiterate to the ideas John Carter is riffing on. Mainstream culture first needs to be reintroduced to and primed with adequate knowledge of astral projection, space opera (of the sword and sandals variety) or else it just feels like genre mashup to them.
Avatar is neither astral projection nor space opera, dimwit.
Astral projection is not reliant on technology and Avatar is grounded hard scifi, not space opera.
The same kind of problems that Tomorrowland had killed this too. It starts multiple times so the audience has a problem getting invested, the lead simply isn't interesting and the plot doesn't make much sense.
There are ways to make a movie like this work. You can either go fun and camp and make Flash Gordon or go expansive and deep and make something like Chronicles of Riddick. Instead they made something that felt like Prince of Persia again. Which is a shame because except for Kitsch the cast is fricking stacked: just as a start Caesar, Marc Antony and Atia from Rome are here. A better version of this would already have gotten two sequels and we'd be sick of it by now.
bad marketing, kind of weird structure to the movie, and ended on a cliffhanger setup
i loved it, but it didnt do well because your average normoid wants a blockbuster to be point A to point B, not point B to point A to point C to point B again
i'd shoot a man for a proper sequel but the chick that played dejah probably isnt hot anymore so it wont happen
Filmento has a good review of this on YouTube. Pretty much explains perfectly why this film flopped, and why I can't be bothered to continue watching it after the first 15 minutes.
Correct if I'm misremembering, but Burroughs had a lot of worldbuilding in the original works that wasn't present in the movie at all. Disney doesn't know how to adapt his stories and just end up making their own fanfiction using the setting (Tarzan was the same).
Princess of Mars consists of John bumbling around Mars randomly and occasionally running into something weird that is immediately explained because it's supposed to be his memoirs. It didn't have much plot and the movie had to borrow from the future books.
Because it was just a clone of avatar where, instead of metal overcrowded shithole to gorgeous jungle planet, it’s a dude going from one desert to another even shittier desert
There was no way to “market” this in a way where people would look at it and not see an inferior version of avatar.
shit. i didn't even make the connection to avatar while i was watching it. just knew i was bored out of my mind and watching a worse version of something i'd already seen, but it was too far removed from anything for me to place a finger on it.
yep. but you forgot the part where >avatar is also HEAVILY inspired by the same book >avatar retools/improves virtually every solitary aspect of the book
no marketing because there was nothing they could say or do to make it not look like a mockbuster level ripoff.
i mean shit, imagine being in pre-production of john carter, and then avatar drops, also heavily inspired by princess of mars, except better in literally every way. its dead baby delivery tier.
Eh you should probably watch the movie to have the scene in context.
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i've seen the movie. that scene had me cringing inside out. its not even unintentionally hilarious like, say SVU. its just shit.
2 years ago
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What's cringe about it.
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No idea, but if you like it that means it's bad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
trying far too hard to humanize the block of wood they cast as john carter.
i'd be more sympathetic if he was burying a dead sapling.
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I don't really pay attention to how men compose themselves outwardly because most men especially those with trauma are really great at putting up a stoneface stoic front. It works for me and I think it's a weird thing to get caught up on.
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sure, if you don't really pay attention to the bad acting, and instead focus entirely on what is supposed to be on screen, then i guess the movie is actually really good.
ya know, just like the star wars prequels.
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All American movies have bad acting, so what.
2 years ago
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so what country are you from?
2 years ago
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Canada, but I mainly only watch Britkino
2 years ago
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do you have one or all of the symptoms of heavy metal poisoning?
Saw it when I was 10 for my friends birthday. I liked the bit where he was figuring out Mars' gravity and jumping around. I thought the rest of it was boring at the time, haven't seen it since and can't remember any other scenes.
>Disney
I mean it felt like 4-5 movies was mushed together into one. Main lead had no character same as main antagonists. Overall it was mega bland and boring.
its better than the book thats for sure
It's too out there for the average movie-going audience, who are currently illiterate to the ideas John Carter is riffing on. Mainstream culture first needs to be reintroduced to and primed with adequate knowledge of astral projection, space opera (of the sword and sandals variety) or else it just feels like genre mashup to them.
It came out three years after avatar you stupid Black person.
Avatar is neither astral projection nor space opera, dimwit.
Astral projection is not reliant on technology and Avatar is grounded hard scifi, not space opera.
Bruh they’re both isekai. One is isekai from shitty ugly world into gorgeous world, the other is isekai from shitty ugly world to shitty ugly world.
Mars in space opera wasn't always ugly.
here's your scantily clad (by 1940s standards) otherworldly beauty bro
Poorly marketed. I didn't know of the source material at the time and thought it was just same gay shit. Didn't find out it was kino until later.
They adapted the wrong Burroughs book
The same kind of problems that Tomorrowland had killed this too. It starts multiple times so the audience has a problem getting invested, the lead simply isn't interesting and the plot doesn't make much sense.
There are ways to make a movie like this work. You can either go fun and camp and make Flash Gordon or go expansive and deep and make something like Chronicles of Riddick. Instead they made something that felt like Prince of Persia again. Which is a shame because except for Kitsch the cast is fricking stacked: just as a start Caesar, Marc Antony and Atia from Rome are here. A better version of this would already have gotten two sequels and we'd be sick of it by now.
>or go expansive and deep and make something like Chronicles of Riddick
bad marketing, kind of weird structure to the movie, and ended on a cliffhanger setup
i loved it, but it didnt do well because your average normoid wants a blockbuster to be point A to point B, not point B to point A to point C to point B again
i'd shoot a man for a proper sequel but the chick that played dejah probably isnt hot anymore so it wont happen
I am wondering why you’d shoot a man before tossing him out of a plane
Filmento has a good review of this on YouTube. Pretty much explains perfectly why this film flopped, and why I can't be bothered to continue watching it after the first 15 minutes.
Jews
I remember enjoying the books they're based on but never bothered watching the movie
>What went wrong?
The girl wasn't naked the whole time. Simple as
Correct if I'm misremembering, but Burroughs had a lot of worldbuilding in the original works that wasn't present in the movie at all. Disney doesn't know how to adapt his stories and just end up making their own fanfiction using the setting (Tarzan was the same).
Also this.
Princess of Mars consists of John bumbling around Mars randomly and occasionally running into something weird that is immediately explained because it's supposed to be his memoirs. It didn't have much plot and the movie had to borrow from the future books.
Yeah that is sort of what I remember. It's not really something you can easily adapt into a full length movie.
Actual reason coming through:
Because it was just a clone of avatar where, instead of metal overcrowded shithole to gorgeous jungle planet, it’s a dude going from one desert to another even shittier desert
There was no way to “market” this in a way where people would look at it and not see an inferior version of avatar.
shit. i didn't even make the connection to avatar while i was watching it. just knew i was bored out of my mind and watching a worse version of something i'd already seen, but it was too far removed from anything for me to place a finger on it.
>movie adapted from a book that predates Avatar by almost a century
>It'S JuSt A bOrInG aVaTaR cLoNe!!!
yep. but you forgot the part where
>avatar is also HEAVILY inspired by the same book
>avatar retools/improves virtually every solitary aspect of the book
>colonisation is… LE EVIL!!!
is that supposed to be an improvement?
i see... you were, somehow, too stupid for avatar.
i'll leave you to your children's movie.
No idea. I thought it was fine. Nothing spectacular, but not unwatchably bad either.
i liked it.
Came on the heels of Avatar and looked like a cheap rip off. Also no marketing
no marketing because there was nothing they could say or do to make it not look like a mockbuster level ripoff.
i mean shit, imagine being in pre-production of john carter, and then avatar drops, also heavily inspired by princess of mars, except better in literally every way. its dead baby delivery tier.
I don't really know. I watched it for the first time last Christmas and I loved it.
its indians acting like john carter wasn't shit, isn't it.
It has one really well-edited scene that consistently makes me tear up without fail. It's not shit, but not specifically because of that.
... bruh that shits bollywood tier... but i guess thanks for answering my question
Wasn't talking about the action at all.
i'm talking about the entire scene.
Eh you should probably watch the movie to have the scene in context.
i've seen the movie. that scene had me cringing inside out. its not even unintentionally hilarious like, say SVU. its just shit.
What's cringe about it.
No idea, but if you like it that means it's bad.
trying far too hard to humanize the block of wood they cast as john carter.
i'd be more sympathetic if he was burying a dead sapling.
I don't really pay attention to how men compose themselves outwardly because most men especially those with trauma are really great at putting up a stoneface stoic front. It works for me and I think it's a weird thing to get caught up on.
sure, if you don't really pay attention to the bad acting, and instead focus entirely on what is supposed to be on screen, then i guess the movie is actually really good.
ya know, just like the star wars prequels.
All American movies have bad acting, so what.
so what country are you from?
Canada, but I mainly only watch Britkino
do you have one or all of the symptoms of heavy metal poisoning?
Some idiot exec removed "from Mars" from the title
wouldn't have helped
I liked it
>poster count doesn't increase
wasnt bad i liked it
Roy Jr died
Saw it when I was 10 for my friends birthday. I liked the bit where he was figuring out Mars' gravity and jumping around. I thought the rest of it was boring at the time, haven't seen it since and can't remember any other scenes.
I only saw it because some friends took me along and I didn't know it was going to be scifi until they went to space