What went wrong? Why is one of the most popular comicbook characters in the world failing to catch up with Mario?
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What went wrong? Why is one of the most popular comicbook characters in the world failing to catch up with Mario?
Since when is Miles one of the most popular comic characters in the world
Since never.
Nobody buys comics so a discord troon group of 300 could pump Miles comic up to a #1 spot
That's an extreme exaggeration. To put it into perspective each of those 300 discord troons would have to buy $800 worth of a single issue to get his numbers up that high, and that's assuming there's no event or major #1 release that month making the goal higher.
Why does the article's picture have Pete instead of Miles?
It's not Pete's movie.
Who's miles?
It’s releasing in a month filled with other big releases compared to the Mario film being the only family friendly film people could see for like 3 weeks
It already outgrossed the original in 10 days with more time to go.
Obviously it wasn't going to outgross Mario. Odds are that nothing this year will.
Adjust for inflation.
Superhero fatigue most likely. The MCU is taking everything down with it.
Mario is capeshit tier
>simple story about a bad monster stealing a damsel
>convoluted story about alternate timelines and dimensions and also it's super mature because characters swear (the badwords are censored btw) and kill people
Binging wahoo video games are unironically better written than the average comic book.
The first Spiderverse is the lowest grossing Spiderman movie.
It also does not help that the movie ends on a cliffhanger, so there will be pleny of people that will watch it in streaming before Across the Spiderverse comes out.
>so there will be pleny of people that will watch it in streaming before Across the Spiderverse comes out.
Guilty.
Video games are bigger than comics, and Mario is a super popular character
Cope. Spider-Man is much more popular around the world.
Peter Parker is, not Miles
Merch isn't sole driver of popularity, otherwise the Pokemon movie would've done better.
It was barely a pokemon movie. Plus it wasn't fully animated.
Cope
They actually don't, at least non since the early/mid 2000s.
the anime Pokemon movies make a shit ton of money though
>the anime Pokemon movies make a shit ton of money though
*in japan
And thats like what? 10 million dollars in yen equivalent?
Pokemon gets its shit kicked in by one piece, detective Conan, and doraemon on a regular basis
>anime Pokemon movies make a shit ton of money
the reboot movies killed them.
Wasn't the Hooplah movie so big of a flop they started the reboot movies in the first place?
Gee, I wonder why the character that keeps putting out games and shit every year is grossing more than the one that doesn't.
>Extremely obscure anime in a tiny country globally outsells Disney princess
How? Is it dubbed throughout the world?
>125 million people
>Tiny country
Because I like demographic information:
The US is the third most populous country in the world with 300+ million people.
So 125 million is very large. I think Japan might be in the top 10, but african countries have grown a lot so I'm iffy on that. France and UK are both at ~70million, Canada is ~40million, and Russia is ~150million people.
So 127 is very large.
It's an iconic mascot character along the same lines as Mickey, just without the worldwide reach.
mario > some Black person
Italians are the Black folk of Europe
Here's a better question: Why are Muhrio threads always low quality?
Mario ruined box office discussion.
Miles isn't even the driving force behind this thread. Literally every Cinemaphile movie from here on out will be compared to Mario box office wise until one happens to surpass it.
Here's a question why are Sonic threads always autistic fan comics?
> reaction image causes bing-bing-boy to seethe
Nintoddlers, and Mario-gays in particular, are the most thin skinned videogame fans to exist
Didn't sonic fans try to bot the video games award recently and Piss off the genshin fan for no reason, an the sad thing is probably would have won if didn't go after the genshin fan too.
>sonicgay pissed he got called out for being autistic
Typical
> Mariobaby doubles down
Sonicgays get called autistic all the time. It runs off like rain on skin. Mariobabies cannot handle criticism
>autist gets called autist and accepts it, sobbing quietly as they color in their Sonic OC
>normal person gets called autist and rightfully gets angry and defends themself
Don't f*ck with old school Nintendo gamers. We don't take sh*t laying down.
> getting angry about comments made by people you’ve never met on an anonymous basket weaving forum
Anon if you think that’s normal then you actually might be autistic
Holy cringe
The answer to both is to go back to Cinemaphile
Every wonder how they never talk about the movie itself and only the numbers it did?
Were the Frozen 2 and Lion King Remake people THIS annoying?
I wonder why spidergays only talk about the animation and never about anything else
> never about anything else
I see people around making Spider OCs, the troony debacle and lusting over 2099 because of this movie.
How is it bad to talk about the animation of an ANIMATED movie?
How is it different from CGI being 100% of Avatar discussion
>"i never watched the move"
okay homosexual
Because it's solely about the tech and not the visual composition of the movie
Avatar's main purpose is to show off its visuals.
And it works every time.
dont tell jimbo about no one cares about the characterization, made up languages and worldbuilding
>talking about animation is somehow bad
Clown.
>ANIMATION fans talk about ANIMATION considered groundbreaking or at least artistically notable
wow!
>This is what company wars does to your brain.
want me to talk about his holes more?
Frozengays at least discuss the movie even if it is to waifugay.
Cinemaphile tourists
Anon, I know that you don't like Mario being an Italian but no need to call him names
>Why is one of the most popular comicbook characters in the world failing to catch up with the most popular videogame character?
>the most popular videogame character?
That's Pikachu and it's not even close. There are a lot of people who don't recognize mario because his significance primarily extends to places with a heavy gaming culture. Pikachu's significance extends even beyond gaming
>There are a lot of people who don't recognize mario
LOL
LMAO even
Go show mario and Pikachu to some boomer in Africa or India. Chances are they'll recognize the yellow rat but not the plumber
>Go show mario and Pikachu to some boomer in Africa or India. Chances are they'll recognize the yellow rat but not the plumber
The opposite dumbass. Boomers played video games when Mario came out with Pong. They don't know Pokemon
>most popular videogame character?
master chief? Kratos? Sonic? Cloud?
>master chief? Kratos? Sonic? Cloud?
You know goddamn well it's Mario
Kratos is popular bit not THAT popular.
Master Chief has seen better days.
and Sonic hasn't been good or popular with anyone but furries since the Genesis
Because it's not about "one of the most popular comicbook characters in the world" ie. Peter Parker.
It's about his boring knock-off, Miles Morales.
If it was about Peter and Baby Mayday, it would be more beloved.
Still would underperform Mario as an animated movie, there are a billion people who are into Mario that have never read a Spider-Man comic.
The Sam Raimi's Spiderman movies each grossed a billion
>making over x7 it's budget is somehow bad
Well it's at 390 now. Not sure if it'll get to 700 but 600 is definitely readable which would be great for its budget.
Most here don't really keep up with or study box office. I've seen anons who still think it only made 200m total.
Woops, my bad, my brain read globally as internationally and added that to the North American numbers. But yea, that's still 4x. Hardly a failure.
Anon, a movie needs to make 15x its budget or else the studio is bankrupt
Anon these are consolewar homosexuals from Cinemaphile they just want a Sony vs. Nintendo fight they don’t care if either movie is any good or profitable they just want their team to “win.”
Diversity first.
There are already several Spider-Man movies. There are only two Mario movies and one of them doesn't look like the vidya. Simple as that.
Because Nintendo basically single handedly created the console gaming industry and made consoles a household item even more so than comic books. Compared to Mario, Spiderman is a literal who.
>Compared to Mario, Spiderman is a literal who.
Imagine how delusional one has to be to say this
Miles Morales is not one of the most popular comic book characters. Peter Parker is but he takes the back seat.
If Peter Parker was the main star of the movie, it would have sold even more tickets but not as many as Mario anyway.
Mario is more popular than Spider-Man, always was and always will be - both in USA and the world.
Across the Spider-verse is family friendly, it's pozzed and normal people don't want their kids seeing this shit.
Mario Bros just looks smooth and better compared to Across the Spider-verse trippy nasty visuals.
Mario Bros gives people what they want to see without offending anyone, Across the Spider-verse pisses off it's core fan-base.
Super Hero fatigue is a real thing, and it's worse when everyone is a Spider-Man.
That ain't Spider-Man, therefore no one cares. Shoulda gone with the OG Peter Parker as the actual MC, instead of some boring bizarre "diversity" quota Black.
Jeez what did Mario do to you? He's no nigglet
Miles isn't even the original Spider-Man from his universe. Hell, he's not even a native of the 616 universe, he's from Ultimate. The guy is literally the replacement knock-off alternate reality counterpart of Peter from a knock-off universe of the mainline Marvel reality. Who honestly thought he had a chance against Mario, one of the most popular characters in the video game industry that has been doing this since the early 80s?
I'm not trying to diss Miles or his fans, but goddamn do you have to be delusional to think that an animated Spider-Man movie that isn't about Parker would have a chance against the first Hollywood animated movie featuring Mario.
As everyone has already said, Miles fricking Morales is not a popular comic book character and capeshit has always been kind of iffy outside of the U.S. market while Super Mario Bros. is gigantic worldwide.
I just saw the SMB movie and the idea it's alt-right is some dumb fricking horseshit holy shit. It's get definite though not either overwhelming or new to the franchise by a long fricking shit girlboss Peach, most of the characters are animals or monsters, Luigi is more pathetic than usual leaving Mario as the typical runty scrappy nice guy who learns to save the day and Bowser as the laughably hilarious incel.
I'm not actually arguing SMB is woke propoganda either but holy shit, Cinemaphile in another year would absolutely b***h that it was, or would to fit its narrative of it hadn't done well. As is it's totally harmless, fun, generic, shallow and those aren't bad things at all it's a shiney and happy popcorn movie.
SMB shows that a wildly popular worldwide brand that STICKS to that brand will be wildly popular worldwide and people like funny action adventure happy family films where you can turn your brain off and have fun.
There is a new blockbuster released every week for the next two months vs mario being the only thing in theaters.
It wouldn't have beat Mario even if they swapped places. Mario would still have been the only family film among all that competition. Spiderverse just has the usual adult capeshit audience
The Mario movie didn't make Peach trans for woke points.
They didn't even include canon trans characters like Birdo and Vivian.
Even if the movie was about Peter and it had zero Miles it still wouldn't reach a billion. Mario is simply a more powerful brand than Spiderman. And it does not help that Spiderman is old. Don't be fooled by the Sony movies Spiderman is an old hat and old things eventually lose relevance. Why even one day Batman will become as old and irrelevant as Felix the Cat. It's what happens to all properties eventually with the passage of time.
And yes one day Mario will also lose relevance and a new generation of kids will not give a damn about him.
But anyway Sony is going to be the death of Spiderman movies eventually with all the shit that they keep forcing in there.
chill down and slurp your Gogurt little nintendie.
>Even if the movie was about Peter and it had zero Miles it still wouldn't reach a billion.
The Raimi movies were ginormous for their era
>.And it does not help that Spiderman is old. Don't be fooled by the Sony movies Spiderman is an old hat and old things eventually lose relevance
The dumbest shit I've ever read. How many James Bond, Batman, Superman, Tarzan, Frankenstein, Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, etc etc. adaptations do we have and continue to get? Old doesn't matter at all.
Black community heard that Miles get buck broken so they didn't go to see it. Mexico went though because they love trannies fricking black boys.
So this is the new standard Cinemaphile has to set everything up to in order to pretend it bombed? Even though Mario did stupid good?
Its just Cinemaphile bringing their proxy console war on Cinemaphile
>Miles
>Spider-Man
They're still trying to do it.
Because spidey has a bajillion movies and Mario never had one (no I don’t count the ‘93 live action shitfest)
Live action Mario is so much better than the Illumination's shit
>Look mommy I said it again
Superhero fatigue + the novelty of Mario getting a fully 3D animated film after years of not having a movie
Nintendo fans are also far more ravenous than Marvel fans and I’ve seen multiple posts from people across social media saying they went out and saw the movie four or five times, they needed this to be successful regardless of the movies actual quality
To be Fair the Mario movie has so many references to its source material it makes sense Mario fans would want to watch it multiple times to get all the references.
>Why is one of the most popular comicbook characters in the world
>Miles
Afraid to compare it with NWH, nintroony?
>Miles is now Spider-Man
>Spider-Man stops selling
lol
Couldn’t make it to IMAX the release weekend so I wanted to try and get it the next week but it got kicked out of IMAX for Transformers so I’ll wait till the internet has a 4K solution.
Mario regularly beats Sonic in Olympic games, no way you're catching that homie
Because Miles isn’t a popular character. Peter Parker is.