dye your hair get a tunnel ear piercing and nose ring and wear a eastpak backpack with pokemon badges and ytoull be hired before you walk past the door
>Grant Morrison stuck the X-Men books with a gorillion mutant NPCs, completely changing the status quo and dynamic of the books, and in ways the rest of Marvel couldn't ignore for long >Marvel editorial wanted to get rid of the NPCs and get back to normal >Chris Claremont's Excalibur was teasing the sudden and unexplained mutant population increase as an unnatural thing, and that Sinister was responsible somehow >Whedon's Astonishing X-Men introduced a working mutant cure, and showed how a large number of them wanted to take it and get their lives back to normal >Quesada, Brevoort and Bendis instead decide to use Wanda as a plot device to magically depower the unwanted mutant NPCs, and a few 'name' characters as well, and have the X-books treat it as a genocidal hate-crime, rather than a status quo reset, and a happy ending for all those poor disfigured freaks >Just throw her under the bus and let the X-books treat her as a hated pariah, it's not like anyone's ever going to want to use her as a heroine again
They thought they could get away with destroying a classic 60s Lee/Kirby heroine forever and nobody would care. Brevoort had been editor on Avengers since the late 90s, and somehow didn't think Avengers readers cared about Wanda.
Then when she started to get popular because of the MCU, Marvel went back to demonizing her over this all over again, and even her current book still won't move past it.
>retcon the spell from "no more mutants" to "gnomes or mutants" >marvel gnomes variant covers out the wazoo >secret history of marvel gnomes created when wanda depowered mutants told for first time >xmen killed off millions of gnomes when they used the phoenix force to force mutate millions of humans >the gnomes that survive are pissed >they are coming for the xmen now >there will be blood >wanda completely absolved of responsibility, actual decision on what would happen was made by the One Above All, power to make the spell at all was given to her by doom as previously established
problem solved, i'll take my MCU Story By credit now
X-Men used to work a lot better when it was primarily about fights between mutants who saw themselves as human and wanted acceptance and integration into society vs mutants who saw themselves as the master race and wanted to kill or enslave humanity.
Now the mutants are all together, they all see themselves as the master race and they fight Red AIM and other powerless humans who are helpless before them yet simultaneously such a massive existential threat that they must be slaughtered without mercy.
Well yeah, they're a threat to mutants because any time they're left to their own devices they inevitably make some new thing intended to commit genocide against mutants. It's the same old problem Marvel's always had where the preposterously evil general population can't be trusted under any circumstances because it permits all manner of crimes against people that a rational public should want to keep onside if at all possible and shouldn't have any real trouble doing so if it can avoid being evil for five seconds. The premise can never work because it requires rational responses to irrational actors.
I don't care anymore, the last few years have proved mutants shouldn't even be a thing, just cure the ones who can be deprogrammed from the cult and throw the rest into the sun.
literally no human has ever committed genocide against mutants in 616 tho
the mutants even disappeared the million human inhabitants of Genosha and nobody ever brings that up since Magneto joined the team full time
and mutants repeatedly commit mass murder of humans often just to prove a point to other mutants, or sometimes because they had a tantrum, like Magneto (Magneto: Not a Hero), Vulcan (X-Men: Deadly Genesis) or Cyclops (X-Force vol 3, in which he orders his child soldiers to murder anybody he disagrees with)
Cyclops has personally been to the UN and threatened everybody in the world who isn't a mutant at least twice, but his own bodycount (never mind the hundreds that his brother Vulcan killed, or that his friend Magneto killed, or that anybody else killed) from ordering the murders X-Force committed is higher than the non-Cassandra Nova kills of all Sentinels
Combination of Bendis being pissed the frick off that his rape of Scarlet Witch didn't take and no matter how hard he tried to Zoe Quinn-tier censor all of his critics off the internet, fans wouldn't fricking shut up so he had Wanda depower 90% of the mutant community to further destroy her character; the depowering itself being something Quesada wanted to do (he wanted mutants to be rare/limited number again after Morrison upped the numbers) but didn't know how to execute until Bendis offered to have Wanda do it to ensure she is hated even moreso by turning the mentally ill section of X-Men fandom against her.
They were genuinely surprised anyone cared about what Bendis did to Wanda in Disassembled, they had no idea she was Avengers readers' waifu. It's believable that House of M was just Bendis doubling down on destroying Wanda because he wasn't used to getting that kind of pushback from fans, though he caved in over complaints about Hawkeye's death really easily.
The lunatic section of the X-gays have been hating Wanda for so long that they can't stop even when their heroes have made peace with her.
They were genuinely surprised anyone cared about what Bendis did to Wanda in Disassembled, they had no idea she was Avengers readers' waifu. It's believable that House of M was just Bendis doubling down on destroying Wanda because he wasn't used to getting that kind of pushback from fans, though he caved in over complaints about Hawkeye's death really easily.
The lunatic section of the X-gays have been hating Wanda for so long that they can't stop even when their heroes have made peace with her.
who the frick knows? what the frick did bendis have against beast? why the frick did he shit on daredevil? the man needs to be quarantined from the industry
who the frick knows? what the frick did bendis have against beast? why the frick did he shit on daredevil? the man needs to be quarantined from the industry
Arguably nothing. "Person with great power loses control" is a stock plot of his.
And of course it was Wanda...frick my life. One of the only marvel characters I genuinely give a shit about. Could've just tripled down on Pym for the thousandth time.
"We lost the film rights to the Muties, but we still completely own the Avengers. Let's just fricking reboot the Avengers and kick the X-Men in the nuts over and over until people don't like them anymore. We'll make the Avengers cool, let's just shred the old cast and make it Cool Black Guy, Woman in Bodystocking, and Spider-Man. Put Wolverine on the Avengers covers, too. God I'm smart."
The victim mentality of X-Men fandom, and the endless conspiracy theories that everything that ever happens in the comics is an intentional attempt to sabotage, ruin and destroy the X-Men is really tiresome, especially when you're framing everything around movie rights that weren't even a concern until Ike fell out with Fox ten years later.
Marvel attempting to get out of the status quo Morrison left them with was a sensible move if they wanted to keep telling X-Men stories, nobody needs there to be millions of extra mutant NPCs and nobody sane cares about them. They started out with a sane and well intentioned desire to fix the X-Men, they just completely botched the method, execution and follow up because they're idiots. But keep on seething about how depowering a load of NPCs who weren't even there before 2001 would somehow "ruin" X-Men so the Avengers would look better.
The New Avengers relaunch had nothing to do with X-Men at all. Avengers sales had slowly declined since Perez left the book, they were pitching ideas to turn things around, and Millar argued the book should be a JLA-style all-star team of Marvel's biggest heroes, Bendis backed him, and took the job writing it.
what i don't get is how magic was shown to be a clear threat to mutants and there was just no follow up with dr strange or any other people, good or evil, that beast asked for help from in endangered species
i prefer x-men to be more sci fi than fantasy but there has to be a lot of wasted opportunity for characters that use magic in the marvel universe to be involved or interested in what the frick ever happened on M Day
NO MORE DEAD COPS
>thinking
marvel writers usually dont.
So one day we might be able to write for marvel?
Only if you have the right connections in the industry.
dye your hair get a tunnel ear piercing and nose ring and wear a eastpak backpack with pokemon badges and ytoull be hired before you walk past the door
name 5 writers who look like that
Hope that North Korea nukes California to save the film, television, gaming and comic industry.
no more mutants?
>Grant Morrison stuck the X-Men books with a gorillion mutant NPCs, completely changing the status quo and dynamic of the books, and in ways the rest of Marvel couldn't ignore for long
>Marvel editorial wanted to get rid of the NPCs and get back to normal
>Chris Claremont's Excalibur was teasing the sudden and unexplained mutant population increase as an unnatural thing, and that Sinister was responsible somehow
>Whedon's Astonishing X-Men introduced a working mutant cure, and showed how a large number of them wanted to take it and get their lives back to normal
>Quesada, Brevoort and Bendis instead decide to use Wanda as a plot device to magically depower the unwanted mutant NPCs, and a few 'name' characters as well, and have the X-books treat it as a genocidal hate-crime, rather than a status quo reset, and a happy ending for all those poor disfigured freaks
>Just throw her under the bus and let the X-books treat her as a hated pariah, it's not like anyone's ever going to want to use her as a heroine again
They thought they could get away with destroying a classic 60s Lee/Kirby heroine forever and nobody would care. Brevoort had been editor on Avengers since the late 90s, and somehow didn't think Avengers readers cared about Wanda.
Then when she started to get popular because of the MCU, Marvel went back to demonizing her over this all over again, and even her current book still won't move past it.
>retcon the spell from "no more mutants" to "gnomes or mutants"
>marvel gnomes variant covers out the wazoo
>secret history of marvel gnomes created when wanda depowered mutants told for first time
>xmen killed off millions of gnomes when they used the phoenix force to force mutate millions of humans
>the gnomes that survive are pissed
>they are coming for the xmen now
>there will be blood
>wanda completely absolved of responsibility, actual decision on what would happen was made by the One Above All, power to make the spell at all was given to her by doom as previously established
problem solved, i'll take my MCU Story By credit now
>xmen is just a fight between mutants and people who dont want mutants
>they always come back after you get rid of them and demanding special rights
X-Men used to work a lot better when it was primarily about fights between mutants who saw themselves as human and wanted acceptance and integration into society vs mutants who saw themselves as the master race and wanted to kill or enslave humanity.
Now the mutants are all together, they all see themselves as the master race and they fight Red AIM and other powerless humans who are helpless before them yet simultaneously such a massive existential threat that they must be slaughtered without mercy.
Well yeah, they're a threat to mutants because any time they're left to their own devices they inevitably make some new thing intended to commit genocide against mutants. It's the same old problem Marvel's always had where the preposterously evil general population can't be trusted under any circumstances because it permits all manner of crimes against people that a rational public should want to keep onside if at all possible and shouldn't have any real trouble doing so if it can avoid being evil for five seconds. The premise can never work because it requires rational responses to irrational actors.
I don't care anymore, the last few years have proved mutants shouldn't even be a thing, just cure the ones who can be deprogrammed from the cult and throw the rest into the sun.
literally no human has ever committed genocide against mutants in 616 tho
the mutants even disappeared the million human inhabitants of Genosha and nobody ever brings that up since Magneto joined the team full time
and mutants repeatedly commit mass murder of humans often just to prove a point to other mutants, or sometimes because they had a tantrum, like Magneto (Magneto: Not a Hero), Vulcan (X-Men: Deadly Genesis) or Cyclops (X-Force vol 3, in which he orders his child soldiers to murder anybody he disagrees with)
Cyclops has personally been to the UN and threatened everybody in the world who isn't a mutant at least twice, but his own bodycount (never mind the hundreds that his brother Vulcan killed, or that his friend Magneto killed, or that anybody else killed) from ordering the murders X-Force committed is higher than the non-Cassandra Nova kills of all Sentinels
frick the x-men
But
>no more LGBT psychos
I fail to see the problem
its marvel so you can use the hydra context. kill one, two more will only take its place.
Combination of Bendis being pissed the frick off that his rape of Scarlet Witch didn't take and no matter how hard he tried to Zoe Quinn-tier censor all of his critics off the internet, fans wouldn't fricking shut up so he had Wanda depower 90% of the mutant community to further destroy her character; the depowering itself being something Quesada wanted to do (he wanted mutants to be rare/limited number again after Morrison upped the numbers) but didn't know how to execute until Bendis offered to have Wanda do it to ensure she is hated even moreso by turning the mentally ill section of X-Men fandom against her.
They were genuinely surprised anyone cared about what Bendis did to Wanda in Disassembled, they had no idea she was Avengers readers' waifu. It's believable that House of M was just Bendis doubling down on destroying Wanda because he wasn't used to getting that kind of pushback from fans, though he caved in over complaints about Hawkeye's death really easily.
The lunatic section of the X-gays have been hating Wanda for so long that they can't stop even when their heroes have made peace with her.
What the frick did Bendis have against Wanda?
who the frick knows? what the frick did bendis have against beast? why the frick did he shit on daredevil? the man needs to be quarantined from the industry
Arguably nothing. "Person with great power loses control" is a stock plot of his.
And of course it was Wanda...frick my life. One of the only marvel characters I genuinely give a shit about. Could've just tripled down on Pym for the thousandth time.
"person with great power loses control" is a phoenix thing
bendis did it do DD and Beast, neither of those characters are particularly powerful, or at least neither of them have energy projection
>Civil War
>House of M
>Avengers Disassembled
>One More Day
How to frick up the Marvel Universe in 4 Steps
Civil War moved books. It sucked and didn't give you a real choice over the politics of it but people came out for it.
That there weren't 198 mutants total so it was smoke and mirrors.
how dare you....
>comics that shouldn't exist
This doesn't even make sense. Wouldn't their powers just stop working? The human torch guy would just stop emitting flames, not burn to death.
"We lost the film rights to the Muties, but we still completely own the Avengers. Let's just fricking reboot the Avengers and kick the X-Men in the nuts over and over until people don't like them anymore. We'll make the Avengers cool, let's just shred the old cast and make it Cool Black Guy, Woman in Bodystocking, and Spider-Man. Put Wolverine on the Avengers covers, too. God I'm smart."
The victim mentality of X-Men fandom, and the endless conspiracy theories that everything that ever happens in the comics is an intentional attempt to sabotage, ruin and destroy the X-Men is really tiresome, especially when you're framing everything around movie rights that weren't even a concern until Ike fell out with Fox ten years later.
Marvel attempting to get out of the status quo Morrison left them with was a sensible move if they wanted to keep telling X-Men stories, nobody needs there to be millions of extra mutant NPCs and nobody sane cares about them. They started out with a sane and well intentioned desire to fix the X-Men, they just completely botched the method, execution and follow up because they're idiots. But keep on seething about how depowering a load of NPCs who weren't even there before 2001 would somehow "ruin" X-Men so the Avengers would look better.
The New Avengers relaunch had nothing to do with X-Men at all. Avengers sales had slowly declined since Perez left the book, they were pitching ideas to turn things around, and Millar argued the book should be a JLA-style all-star team of Marvel's biggest heroes, Bendis backed him, and took the job writing it.
what i don't get is how magic was shown to be a clear threat to mutants and there was just no follow up with dr strange or any other people, good or evil, that beast asked for help from in endangered species
i prefer x-men to be more sci fi than fantasy but there has to be a lot of wasted opportunity for characters that use magic in the marvel universe to be involved or interested in what the frick ever happened on M Day
Cassaday asked for a fill-in project
Quesada and Bendis responded by forcing a massive status quo change