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Rick dies for real and never comes back
they could just get a different rick
Good writing.
literally ending, they can never top season 2
Season 4 was pretty cool tho
well they need to do the old double subvert maneuver to the audience by turning rick into a moralizing Kantian butthole who proves there is only 1 universe of some shit like that
If it became good again.
I hope the women working on that show get pregnant and then try abort the baby
Summer's feet
If every episode had a specific sci-fi idea like the first season felt like. None of that drama shit.
when they finally find that Green Cube.
>tfw they got to bendigo but they never found the cube
man, biggest bait and switch in the show, love this kind of meta stuff. epic!
Well I watch every new ep as it comes out, so more new eps. The S5 finale was fantastic
>give rick a consistent power level instead of him being a god in one episode and useless in another
>develop his relationship with morty more, make it less toxic
>acknowledge that rick is a horrible person and not someone to aspire to be and also stop jerking him off with the "smartest man in the universe" shit so much
>cut back on the lazy gross out and sex "humor"
there, now it's okay again
>develop his relationship with morty more, make it less toxic
I'm going to be fricking pissed if his development in the season 5 finale gets reset. People keep b***hing that the show has lost its charm and that the characters have become unlikeable but Rick and Morty showing a deeper love for each other reminded me of their season 1 selves.
yeah, that was definitely a step in the right direction. I guess they've been trying to decrease his power level a bit too, so that's also nice. frick knows if they'll actually keep to it once though, the show is so inconsistent with everything - sometimes you get cool episodes and sometimes the fricking sperm episode
>People keep b***hing that the show has lost its charm and that the characters have become unlikeable
It has, and the characters really have lost a lot likeability with their hypocrisy and growing butthole-ness.
>but Rick and Morty showing a deeper love for each other reminded me of their season 1 selves.
Honestly, even in season one it was a pretty shitty relationship. It worked cause it didn't take itself that seriously.
>acknowledge that rick is a horrible person and not someone to aspire to be and also stop jerking him off with the "smartest man in the universe" shit so much
Based on the last season's ending you might get your wish. The central finite curve where only the universes where Rick is god like and the smartest is now breached, so we may finally get to the point where Rick has to cope with the real world beyond is bubble and is no longer in a safe playpen where only he and his alternate selves are on top
by hiring writers based on their creativity and story telling skills,not just for the sake of muh diversity and inclusion
I want to see her again
Rick and Morty doesn't bring back sexy one-offs. We're lucky Tricia's had regular appearances since Season 3.
This scene was so up it's own ass
>LOL, we can just solve all our problems with drugs bro! Why don't you get enlighted?!
God, S2 was so fricking good
If the writers stopped acting antagonistic toward their own audience.
This, the season 5 finale could've worked but Rick going "waah why are we doing this moronic serialized storytelling thing frick you for watching this" wasn't funny and honestly just made me not want to watch it since the writers clearly just hate writing their own show. That episode wasn't written by Dan Harmon so I feel like they tried and failed to emulate his meta shit which sometimes works but not if you're constantly pointing out how unfunny it is but then doing it anyway
Good writers would recognize that if you get signed on for 100 episodes, you carefully dole out and capitalize on every bit of lore to maximize hype, not blow it all in a single episode just to spite the fans who like that sort of stuff.
Why do they hate serialization when the Season 5 finale has been the best thing in the show since Season 2?
cause they would rather do more sperm episodes or dragon episodes. unfunny, cringy and hated by the fans, but easier to write, yay!
But that sperm episode was the most unfunny episode in Rick and Morty. And the dragon one was just more degeneracy, probably written by that same butthole who has the omorashi fetish and incest fetish involving Summer.
>But that sperm episode was the most unfunny episode in Rick and Morty
I agree, it was horrid. all the worst parts of the show and none of the stuff people actually like, all condensed into one episode
If you pay attention, you'd see that it's only Rick who ever backs away from plot progression. The rest of the family is always trying to poke more answers out of him, but Rick's a tough nut to crack. That's where the opportunity to use his resistance to revealing his backstory as a way of doing more meta commentary comes into play. The writers love the show's lore, and they probably just find it funny whenever Rick gets pissed off at anything changing the status quo he's built for himself after choosing to take control of this family that's not even his. Life was supposed to be perfect for Rick once he got Jerry out of the picture, but Season 3 ended with Rick getting put in his place and being ridiculed by the rest of the family. He can't maintain this simulation forever. The Smiths are always causing new changes to happen.
Not to mention that any time Rick complains about canon, it's less of the writers pouting over having to finish what they started and more that it's meant to show Rick's personality. His whole deal is that he'd rather bury his past and numb his pain with goofy one-off adventures only to be unable to escape it when it comes knocking at the door. I guess in the end, you really do need to have a high iq to enjoy this show as fans continuously interpret Rick's apathetic too-kewl-4-skweel attitude as the way the show will remain forever when it's nothing more than a tough guy facade he puts on in order for him not to feel that crushing despair deep inside of him. It's the reason why he chose to fix the Birdperson he came to know and love after he was corrupted by the government instead of choosing to replace him with another one from a different reality because deep down, he believes that there are some things that matter. That's why it's hilarious when the fans who hate lore get so upset whenever it comes up because like Rick, they take his aloofness as something that's supposed to be cool instead recognizing it as a character flaw. It's funny to imagine these morons watching "The Ricklantis Mixup", scoffing at the worldbuilding, and then during the ending where Rick goes "LUL WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THAT CRAP THAT WILL TOTALLY NEVER AFFECT US! I D-DAY'D THAT MERMAID PUSS MORTY!", they all just sit back, chuckle to themselves, and say "lol yep, that's totally me."
See, you get it.
* No more cringy deepest lore story episodes. Just non-stop fun adventures.
* No more eye-roll inducing psuedo-intellectual musing by the writer/s trying to be all deep and philosophical when Rick is just a nihilistic evil ass hole.
* No more Rick basically just warping reality with his mind and calling it Science like that god awful planet girlfriend episode where he can bang two pieces of metal together and now the car can switch the passenger seat with the drivers seat.
* No more "All Men Suck, All Women Are Awesome" shit from the Female Writers.
>you really do need to have a high iq to enjoy this show
Only a hyper-moron would claim this. You are the absolute ultimate wiener sucking aids-homosexual.
>No more "All Men Suck, All Women Are Awesome" shit from the Female Writers.
Beth isn't anywhere close to flawless
>Just non-stop fun adventures.
Like season 4?
You're giving the writers too much credit. Rick is just their mouthpiece/power fantasy, and he has been ever since other characters started referring to him as the smartest person in the universe. If Rick is calling something stupid, then it's the writers saying "hey look, the smartest being in existence thinks this thing is dumb, too". There's a reason they never use Jerry to espouse their opinions.
Rick b***hes about "serialization" for the same reason he hates heist films and guardians of the galaxy: because the writers do.
There's no depth, there's no creativity, and I think the staff resents the fact that fans come up with theories that end up being much better than "what if giant sperm"
The writers don’t hate continuity tho. They just hate fans who ONLY care about continuity. This was never The Evil Morty Show, and yet far too many fans would only ever ask about that one character week after week.
Yes, Rick is typically used as the writers' mouthpiece, but not always when it comes to lore. They just want fans to enjoy the show for its silly one-off episodes as well as for the character-focused ones.
>Yes, Rick is typically used as the writers' mouthpiece, but not always when it comes to lore.
Maybe but it’s like that other guy said: if they keep using Rick's status as "the smartest man alive" to shit on things they don’t like, most viewers are going to logically assume any viewpoint Rick has is one the writers share.
>They just hate fans who ONLY care about continuity.
A confident writing team would just make a good show and let the fans enjoy it in their own way, from the comedic to the lore-heavy drama. Too bad these pussies hate the fans so much that they'd derail their own show to spite them.
Thats 100% I think the approach the writers for Futurama did, where even if they made bad episodes they kept on trucking with their vision and saw it to the end and in the end Futurama is objectively one of the greatest sci-fi shows ever made. Its not that they ignored fan feed back it was that they didin't let fan feed back completely dominate aspects of the show.
It helps that the writers for Futurama didn't spend their lives on Twitter.
Why would any writer be upset that people like your show or an aspect of the show?
>Oh wow you're invested into this subplot what a homosexual loser you're.
Did you see the kinds of comments on every promo or episode clip from adult swim's official YouTube channel, Twitter/Instagram pages, and whatnot? The entire time Season 5 was rolling out, it'd be nothing but variations of:
>Oh so THIS is the episode where Evil Morty returns!
>where’s evil morty?
>I want Evil morty
Personally, I don't think the writers need to air their frustrations toward those parts of the fan base directly into the episode scripts, but I can understand where they're coming from.
The majority of the audience are kids though, the writers are getting upset because of kids?
>The majority of the audience are kids though
Wrong. Rick and Morty is the new Simpsons.
Did they have sex with the mask on?
Hopefully.
Oh god, internet comments, someone protect the poor writers!
>If you want fun eposdic adventures of Rick and Morty, you're a Nazi
>If you care about the lore and continuity, you're a loser
Who's this show for anymore
>Who's this show for anymore
People who don't get so personally offended by these silly little jabs. The fact the writers still deliver with returning plot threads and occasional funny character moments while still keeping a keen eye on the fandom shows how much they care about the work they're doing.
They damper it when during one of the finale and one of the biggest realisations on the show, Rick is constantly saying shit like "Ohh when he reveals himself to be evil, yaaa now all the fans can shut up about it" really takes you out of the experience
But it doesn't. Rick's quip was just a funny way to cap off such a long-awaited backstory that fans had been pining for since March 2017. It's something you can chuckle at because you know it's true that the writers had been constantly pressured by fans into revealing Rick's true backstory even though they were always set in their plans to dole it out gradually. The montage was clearly an emotional journey, and Rick's aside just takes us out of it to get us back into the more relevant Citadel-destroying conflict at hand. You act like this was Final Space-level whiplash or something.
That’s a VERY charitable way of looking at it. The show doesn’t seem to like itself.
It's just being meta and some people don't like it. Some audiences like being heckled, some anons are really autistic and I wonder why they try to watch it in the first place.
Yep. Waaay too many fans make such a big deal out of nothing. This goes for the meta jokes and some of the lore. It's a wild cartoon where the main character can casually poke fun at the audience. Don't overthink these things.
I thought it was obvious when they started directly referencing sitcoms tropes and doing meta references in season 1. I did think season 3 was a little weak and didn't really capture what they were going for, but they turned it around and it was dumb junk food with some meta once again by season 4. I also don't think certain anons can accept that some episodes are just bad compared to the rest and there are going to be ideas that fall flat every now and then. With season 5 I like how it's making fun of the bitter nihilism and meta in a more effective way that lands as humor.
No, you can't have your cake and eat it to. Be Family Guy or be Infinity Train. The show really wants to sometimes feel for these characters and other times it's all "MORTY MORTY IT'S A PURGE EPISODE, HEY REDDIT" moments. If you do want to have your cake and eat it, save it for certain episodes, stop trying to be oh so clever and be all quippy
If that’s the position the show takes, then why try and be earnest at all? You don’t get both. Commit.
I don’t feel insulted when the show pokes fun at me, I’m a big boy. I’m just tired of seeing a show that clearly doesn’t know what it wants to be and constantly undercuts itself for the same joke (haha isn’t this bad?) that isn’t funny.
Maybe it's a reflection of life. Usually it's empty and bitter but that makes the sincere moments more meaningful. Sometimes there isn't a moral, sometimes there is. Let's go watch TV.
You’re referencing an actual example of the show at its smartest. The late season version of that scene would be Morty (mini Rick) saying “Accidents happen Summer, don’t be a pussy” and then walking off, Summer shrugging and coming back to watch TV.
I like that it's arbitrary and not black and white. It keeps the pathos from being arbitrary itself.
Is it autism or really lame trolling? Both? Is there ultimately a difference?
>You don’t get both.
Why not? It's a show where the possibilities are literally infinite. Why should Rick and Morty limit itself to being either a fourth wall-breaking comedy or a sincere drama when it can do it all, like it always has been since Season 1 (albeit more subtly)? Rick can poke fun at impatient, redundant viewers and still have legitimate stakes to deal with or distressing familial shit to work through.
I can't speak for everyone, but my current issues with the series don't lie with them bouncing back and forth between sincerity and subversion. It lies with how unappealing the main family can be when interacting with one another compared to how they were handled in earlier episodes. I used to look forward to how Morty and Summer would but heads or fight for Rick's affection, but now I dread another boring, unfunny "Amortycan Grickfitti." Jerry's in a weird state where he gets some wins here and there (saving the day with puppetry and mending his marriage & sex life with Beth), but he still gets shat on a little too easily, almost as if all the writers agree to continue antagonizing him. The puppet decoy bit was funny tho. Summer's camping rant against him COULD have been the turning point to explore how toxic she's become, but nothing has really improved with her since then. She's still annoying.
I've grown to like how much of a dumb, shallow b***h Summer is.
Me too, but her jokes don't always land. She's very hit-or-miss right now, always zig-zagging between being stupidly entertaining and just flat-out annoying. This bit was great tho.
>Why not
Because it harms the goal of either direction. Undercutting your story only serves to deflate investment, and throwing sincerity into a nihilist fantasy only serves to slow down the funny. While I would prefer a harder commitment to sincerity, I’d also be perfectly happy if the show just said frick it and leaned the other way. Rick and Morty is a precarious balancing act, and I don’t envy the writers having to do that, but I can say that if they decide to put effort into a story, they shouldn’t have the show tell you to not be invested.
Yes, the characters are the real issue with late Rick and Morty, and a much bigger deal than the meta problems I have, see:
It’s not black and white but if you’re going to just roll your eyes at your shades of gray won’t the audience do the same?
See:
>It’s not black and white but if you’re going to just roll your eyes at your shades of gray won’t the audience do the same?
I don't. That's a personal problem.
I think the general consensus of the past three seasons critically and in the fanbase makes it clear that it’s not my personal problem. Maybe it doesn’t bother you, but it does to many.
>critics, ie. """""""journalists""""""
>spergs
>redditors
I don't care what the mentally ill think about anything.
Why even post if you don’t care about the opinions of others? You just walked in, said “works on my machine and I don’t care about others” and left. Okay? Great.
I've been having a good time with all the anons who only have minor gripes but enjoy the series on the whole. Normally, when I don't like something, I don't watch it or talk about it. Because it's not for me. I don't get confused about the message I think it's trying to convey, I move on with my day.
I wouldn’t be talking about the show if I didn’t still care about it, and I will keep watching. I’m pulling for it to figure itself out, so it can go back to being great instead of just kind of fun.
This anon fricks
Nothing.
The problem is the show started on such a high note for two seasons, and then got dumpster fired. It went to zombie simpsons tier in one season...
I wouldn’t go that far. The show is flawed but still immensely watchable. It feels like the ship can still be righted.
Man I dont know, that sperm episode and incest baby was just..yea....
The show also has had a tough time trying to decide what it wants to be. First it was episodic, then it had lose continuity, then it went fully serial, then back to episodic, and it keeps bouncing.
>Summer's camping rant against him COULD have been the turning point to explore how toxic she's become, but nothing has really improved with her since then. She's still annoying.
Yeah, it's really strange that the show will give the family members these really cruel (even by their standards) moments and then sweep them under the rug like they never happened. To this day, it can be hard to feel sympathy for Morty even during his admittedly emotional moments when you remember how he disfigured Ethan based on hearsay. If the writers manage to pull it off and make this seemingly inconsistent characterization come off not as a mistake but relevant to the plot and character development down the road through buildup then fine but in all likelihood, they'll just forget about it like it never happened. It really did seem like in that moment that Summer realized that she was becoming toxic but then that little arc got replaced in favor of her feeling alone and inadequate in regard to the incest baby plotline.
I'm gonna miss those green portals. I hope the ads for Season 6 really emphasize how we won't be seeing any more of those moving forward.
Isn't the yellow portal for outside of the central finite curve though? C-137 Rick and Morty are still inside of it, no? Been a while since I last saw this episode.
It's implied that Rick's portal fluid doesn't work anymore. What's not clear is whether Evil Morty simply punctured a hole and escaped to outside of the Curve, or if he opened it up entirely and exposed everyone cozied within the Curve. My guess is the latter. Rick is no longer the smartest man in the universe, and it's possible he won't be making green portals anymore.
Ooooh, got ya.
I dont know if that was the specific implication because I don't remember if he ever refilled it. It was empty before that. It might play out that way as a changing of the stakes but I don't see the status quo being shaken too much due to other lore and implications.
Also marketability. Can they really afford to abandon the green portal design entirely? It's such an iconic part of the show. The fricking PRODUCTION COMPANY changed its name to Green Portal Productions.
Life hasn't been the same since we lost his smile…
It was a good show..
Wendy's handled the Rick and Morty craze better than McDonald's ever could.
Evil Morty’s space pod is so cool
It would be like ending Unity on Rick looking at the screen and saying “haha I never loved the b***h anyway” or ending fart with Morty saying “I kill farts all the time see *pfft*” or ending Planetina with “It’s okay Mom, she was a psycho, lets start a forest fire lmao”
Re-emphasize Rick's personality as a hideous drunk disaster rather than an epic and invincible cryptobro's wet dream
agreed. if the show just made Rick human instead of reddit's invincible self-insert that would fix its biggest problem
>cryptobro's wet dream
anything you need to tell us?
more episodes
mortyXsummer incest
I liked the show all the way. Season 3 or 4 was the weakest, but Season 5 made up for it. Is it just cool now to hate the show because of its crazy fandom from a few years ago?
Tricia fricking Jerry
He did get to frick a blue alien
Just go to rule 34 paheal.
a full series of Bushworld Adventures
These
Leaner dialogue that doesn't sound like soapboxing or a writer's blog post.
Rick finds new meaning to life and stops becoming an nihilist.
I hate nihilists so much, if nothing matters and we're all going to die, put a gun to your head and pull the trigger since it would achieve the same result anyway.
hope you watched the anti-nihilism cartoon
Morty actively fricking his sister.
Not spitting on the lore they set up themselves
I'm still interested. Now that Rick is basically immortal, the writers have to find even crazier ways to challenge him, leading to some really creative sci-fi premises. And it's been cool to see Morty grow more assertive and capable when left to his own devices. I really like the work they've done with his character lately. The official introduction of the Central Finite Curve and the newest change to portal technology should make things especially interesting moving forward. You all thought the lore ended at Evil Morty, but there's clearly more in store. Knowing that they're already writing Season 8 has me excited.
But Summer isn't funny anymore. They need to fix that.
>But Summer isn't funny anymore
true, they made her some bizarre caricature that's just a vehicle for gross-out and sex humor and occasional cringy pseudofeminist pandering
It's literally the dumbest thing, too. Just keep her a druggie who's desperate for Rick's approval, but show both the good AND the bad that comes with admiring a character like Rick and trying to copy his exact philosophy and mannerisms.
The difference between how Summer looks up to Rick in every way while Morty retains a moral compass and questions Rick all the time is one of the things I find most interesting regarding the character dynamics. But somehow Morty and Summer's dynamic is always hit-or-miss. Their bickering and reconciliation in "Star Mort" was great, but I was bored out of my mind the entirety of "Amortycan Grickfitti."
Make Rick fallible again.
and this
>And it's been cool to see Morty grow more assertive and capable when left to his own devices.
I like the idea that every Morty becomes Evil Morty.
I think everyone screaming the show isn't saveable is being a bit to pessimistic its only a few things that really got fricked up and could easily be dialed back even more so by going past the central finite curve you could make Rick no longer the smartest being but opening him up to the rest of the multiverse.
Retcon everything after S3 E1.
I don't even remember anything past season 3 ep 1. There was a train episode. Tammy died, Beth is a clone. Something like that. I can name off entire episodes from 1+2 though, including jokes and lines, and character acting.
Literally same, everything past S3E1 is a blur but I remember the first two seasons perfectly even though I haven't seen them since they first aired almost 10 years ago
fun, less meta commentary and need for family drama/dynamics.
Pic related (interdimensional TV) is a good example of just that. Just give me Justin Roiland making noises for 15 minutes.
Watch Solar Opposites.
Nah.
SO's good, but it's no Trover. Doesn't have the lazy and comfy riffing of Roiland and friends sans Harmon.
Is this show actually good?
It's pretty good, I liked it at least. Watch the first couple episodes, if you don't like those you probably won't like the rest of the series.
The Wall is the only good part.
The aliens are the only good part.
Is that rape?
Going by that screenshot I don't think I should.
if it was bushworld adventures instead of rick and morty
>evil morty is gone
>writers have made it clear they don’t want to do any storylines with him and hated his fan theories
>morty and rick have been flanderized to the extreme
evil jerry MIGHT get me interested to watch again but other than that, this show has really went to shit to me
>writers have made it clear they don’t want to do any storylines with him and hated his fan theories
The writers clearly care about storylines. They just took the piss out of fans who ONLY watched for Evil Morty, or the fans who overhype lore when the whole point of the show is that literally anything can happen and that everything should come as a surprise. It's why the episode synopses and commercials are always so vague. Story Train really did a number on y'all.
Season 4 was great. 5 wasn't as consistent in quality, but there were still plenty of good episodes throughout.
>They just took the piss out of fans who ONLY watched for Evil Morty, or the fans who overhype lore
That’s not accurate. They made it clear that caring about Evil Morty at all, caring about any lore at all, was bad.
Are you serious? Evil Morty was a way to prove that not all of Rick's enemies are inherently evil. Evil Morty had just grown sick of the prison the Citadel of Ricks had created and masterfully birthed infinite Mortys into, and he wanted out. His role was to emphasize just how fricking lonely Rick is, that he'd run away to live a fantasy life with an alternate family, free of outside threats and in the comfort of the Central Finite Curve. Evil Morty's return in the S5 finale was even more genius and satisfying than any of us could have imagined.
>that not all of Rick's enemies are inherently evil.
But not all, you mean half, right?
If the writers saw this post they’d call you a loser for writing it
Did you see the behind the scenes bonus content after the episode? They jerk themselves off harder than anyone else so I doubt it.
Evil Morty was completely evil and was just making excuses.
>Gets sick of Rick
>Kills all the Morty's
After how bad the last 2 seasons were, you'd have to be moronic to watch whatever is left of the 70 episode order. It's not getting any better.
It'd never happen, but maybe some status quo shift that let Rick legitimately become the villain? I feel like one of my biggest issues with the show after a certain point was that they couldn't decide what they wanted the tone of Rick's character to be. Whether he's a sympathetic figure, an absolute monster, or just a puppet for people who unironically said that you have to be a super cool genius to "get" the show.
If they just leaned into the angle that allowed him to be a negative force embracing his toxicity you could have your cake and eat it too. With him having potentially sympathetic backstory, but ultimately being an antagonist that does terrible shit for laughs while the rest of the cast aren't trying to make excuses for him anymore.
yeah turning him into a straight-up villain could be cool too. either make him more human or more evil, rick is at his worst when he's le epic reddit science frick yeah powerfantasy
Making Rick grow even worse and become a full-on villain would be the coolest shit, but I feel like the writers [and Adult Swim at large] are too afraid to let their fun mascot character be objectively evil. Expect more depressed Rick scenes, but the series endgame better not give him a happy ending.
You guys forget that it's not trying to be an [as] show like Venture Bros. It's trying to be their in house Family Guy. Major changes are not allowed, and characters can be added but not removed/turned evil. They can't afford to lose its mass appeal.
I dunno Morty can be pretty evil now depending on what the episode in question needs to happen.
This. I learned not to build wild status quo-bending expectations the moment Rick fixed everything in the Season 3 premiere. At one point, it looked like everything would change, with Rick sacrificing himself, Morty going back to just having his parents and sister, and Earth as we know it casually crawling with aliens from here on out. But of course that was only temporary. The deus ex machina leading into the season-long divorce arc was neat, but it still kept everything feeling relatively familiar moving forward.
We'll still get cool character backstories and gradual developments with Birdperson and whatnot, but Morty will always be 14, Beth will always be with Jerry, and Rick will always be portrayed as sympathetic. The 70-episode pickup only solidified that.
That's basically what Inside Job did. They let Rand be funny, super intelligent, and a burn-out alcoholic who has seen too much shit. But they don't just push it to make him seem cooler than everyone else. They acknowledge that he's an abusive bastard hiding behind his IQ to justify his actions.
much better show than reddit and morty
Make morty and rick gay incest canon
off yourself
If you're not impressed with how Rick's been handled as a "byronic hero," then watch Barry. Trust me, you won't regret it. American cartoons are meant to stay consistent, whereas live-action serials can ACTUALLY tell a developing story where characters change.
BoJack Horseman. Every season is different. There are actual consequences to various events. Characters die, and the aftermath is explored in great detail.
>gayjak redditman
kek
>"That's Gay!" said the cum covered man with 6 dicks in him.
If hes covered and cum and riddled with penises I'd say he knows gay when he sees it
Nah they reverted BoJack's development too many times, there's hardly anything different between S1E1 BoJack and S6E13 BoJack.
NORMAL WORDS
more rape
I find the whole show kinda unappealing so I dont know.
They go to the bushworld dimension
If they did a reboot in another universe with the same writing consistency as season 1/2, it would singlehandedly save the show. Ratings aren't low enough to warrant that, though, so the show's pretty much doomed to remain shit.
That would mean bringing back Ryan Ridley, and he wouldn’t come back if it means working with Hackey Sack McHarmon
Sadly true. There's not much that can be done at this point.
South Park Crossover
Pickle Rick 2
Funniest shit I've ever seen.
Give Rick a male love interest throughout the season
Episodic adventures
You still get plenty of those, especially since the show's already confirmed to go for at least another 50 more episodes.
I still love the show, but I'd enjoy it way more if I knew Roiland was enthusiastic enough to take part in the writers' room again. Now Dan Harmon's the only member of the old guard still left, and he's hiring tons of new faces who have try and fit into Harmon's own vision for the show, which has likely changed ever since all the S1-3 writers left. The writers' room must have a totally different vibe now.
I noticed that too that Roiland is in none of the featurettes for season five. He's running out the clock on the episode order and won't renew. He's probably still having some fun, but he's getting more of Solar Opposites, and his games like Trover and the new one that's coming out this fall. Show still cranks out some great episodes, like three per season on a good day which by law of averages shouldn't be possible for the quality it produces at this point.
>since all the S1-3 writers left. The writers' room must have a totally different vibe now.
lol season 3 and 4's writers have since gone on to write for Marvel and Harmon wasn't asked to do an uncredited rewrite of Doctor Strange 2 like he did on the first one. He's probably less than thrilled about the show becoming a turnaround for writers just hoping to make the jump to Marvel and never looking back.
>makes a whole episode shitting on the MCU
>now more and more of your staff writers have direct ties to the MCU, and Adult Swim even asked for Vindicators bonus shorts
Now doesn't Harmon feel dumb
just give this a show
Apparently the one that's being made is based on this
Oh no really? Got source on that?
https://www.polygon.com/23123196/rick-and-morty-anime-adult-swim-hbo
I feel like I read somewhere it would be based on Shogun, but animated by TMS instead of DEEN, but I can't find it.
Oh it’s TMSgay never mind,
TMSgay doesn't say "I feel like I read somewhere"
TMSgay would create a list of fake bullshit to get mad at
And then he'll say "everybody will have baloney in their sacks" even though that makes no sense out of context
Fix Morty’s personality to be less jaded.
Fix Rick’s personality to still love his grandson.
Go on fun mindbending adventures.
Also more Summer service, Justin I know you read these.
>Fix Morty’s personality to be less jaded.
Morty still has a heart. He cares for others, warns Rick whenever he gets in over his head, and literally went off on secret adventures to fix Rick's messes. Morty only acts out whenever something or someone gets in the way of him getting laid. He's a horny teenager. It works.
>Fix Rick’s personality to still love his grandson.
I agree. End of Season 5 kind of brought that back, but the rest of the series could stand to emphasize that dynamic a little more.
>Go on fun mindbending adventures.
They still do that. The Decoys episode was wild.
>Also more Summer service.
God no. Frick off.
Is Season 6 also going to be sexual fetish of the week or are they going to try a different gimmick this time?
Calling that they're going to stray away from the stupid shit they did in season 5 for 3 episodes and then hit everyone with another incest baby ep
Season 6 is what they wrote after seeing the response to Season 4. Season 7 will be what was written as they saw the response to Season 5 (Incest Baby backlash included).
Implying they didn't the see incest baby as a success.
Oh yeah tru
>then hit everyone with another incest baby ep
Hopefully made the old fashioned way.
There is no way we only get one episode with the incest baby. Chances are it becomes a recurring character.
And it will be an "ironic" jab at the sane fans who thought that they were being fricking stupid with the idea. I'm waiting for the time Harmon bites the bullet on the fan shit, because the meltdown will be glorious.
This. I'm fully expecting them to build up Bird Person's daughter or something, only to then have the incest baby crush it while Rick says some shitty quip like
>And just like that, a million obese gamergate serialization-loving incels suddenly gasped out in autistic agony
>A-aw jeez Rick, y-you really shouldn't use autistic as an insult like that, y'know...
>You're right, Morty, I should have just skipped to the part where they commit bathtub suicide with their mom's hair dryer because their favorite serialized character doesn't make the big appearance that they were hyping up their nothing lives for
I genuinely hope they actually do this, not because it would be good for the show but because the fallout from it would be the best lulz this board has seen in fricking years.
I think the original core fanbase would like it, the ones who never saw it as anything more than a dumb junk food show that parodied sci fi and the ricks of the world.
Incest baby is setup and easing the audience in for a Morty x Summer endgame ship
>sexual fetish of the week
Explain.
>incest
>farting in people's faces
>whatever was going on with the dragons
>the whole grandpa-granddaughter ass eating escapade
>incestbaiting
>the whole sperm episode
Who the frick keeps telling these Hollywood writers that incest makes for a good punchline? It's a tired "joke," and they really overdo it now.
It’s not a punchline or a joke, someone on the writing team (probably multiple people) have hardcore incest fetishes and write it into the show. It’s less subtle than an episode of totally spies
I want to know the thought process that went behind this joke. Feels like the writers don't even know what to do with Summer anymore. She just eats up screen time and is rarely ever funny now.
>Sym-Bionic Titan.Jpeg
>Pissing or pissing self
Drop the nihilism
Kek
Ramp up the nihilism.
Moderate amount of nihilism.
Rick rapes his daughter and grand daughter and says "this is canonical in all realities, any shirts and merch of me is canonically of a rapist"
I don’t care what they do on the show. I just need more commercials. I want my favourite characters Rick and Morty to ironically sell more shit to me. I want them to casually mention how they’re only doing these for the money. I wanna feel in on their joke and feel like a genius.
Gay morty
A Morty and Summer childhood episode.
Or just anything that brings back the fun dynamic these three had when the show came back for its second season. If Rick's never gonna be allowed to go full irredeemable villain mode, then at least make him the cool science grandpa again.
The main issue is that he is already fully irredeemable and arguably the only real villain the show has. If they had not made him a god and actually given stakes the show could have been more interesting.
Rick being drunk more
More hot babes
I understand rick finding them sexy, but what do they see in old wrinkly ass rick?
Dan Harmon and his writers room gone.
more half naked summer
Any chance the R&M anime is going to be decent?
Idk.
If it’s 2D, yeah, it will be. Earnest R&M will be sick.
Japan has a really lame sense of humor. They will probably try to make it about Japanese culture.
Yeah, it's rough. Though a Japanese person made Cromartie High. So, there's one funny person.
>show was at it's best with wacky sci fi random adventures with a few bits of "deep" drama on occasion
>women writers take over
>it becomes fully serialized and every episode needs to be sad drama with the sci fi adventures as a backdrop
It needs to surprise me again. Shit like the love potion ending, Evil Morty and even dark stuff like the Jellybean rape were shocking events I'd never expect the show to go.
I think the problem was the show revealed its hand far too early and since then nothing has really surprised me as much as that first season.
This didn't surprise you?
Not really, season 2 had an entire episode about Rick having backup clones.
And yeah, that's exactly what happened. Rick "died" but then it's quickly shown he had backup bodies.
*is the most content rich western erotic game in your path*
I dont want to grind to jack off.
That’s the original, the Renpy remake is no grinding + expanded content + QOL features. Even if you just want to skip to the gallery it’s unlocked by default.
Holy based. I just checked it out. The rape route for Summer was atrocious though.
Simply get over themselves, and write the story as entertaining, instead of making jabs at the audience for wanting more of the serialized storyline they chose to introduce, and stop fricking off to let your new writers write bullshit episodes, and approve it, cus otherwise you'd have to write it yourselves. You have the ability to take time off between seasons to get it right, time you have shown you're willing to take, so do it.
If they say Black folk without censoring it.
More wacky fun adventures i don't hate lore when it's used sparingly but the its all of the place.
They tried to do away with lore entirely. They failed miserable and then leaned into it way, way too hard
I find it funny that if you asked someone what they should do to make rick and morty good again you get wildy different answers
You really don’t.
But you do tho
Nope.
1. Fix unlikable characters
2. Stop writing ‘above it all’
3. Fun adventures, without abandoning plot threads altogether
4. Be more creative and less lazy about concepts (sperm/dragon are negative examples
>Fun adventures, without abandoning plot threads altogether
That's exactly what the show's been doing since the start of Season 4. There's been a decent balance of one-off adventures and dramatic plot-heavy episodes now that the crew is free to work through their 70-episode order. This is not a good argument against the present show.
>sperm/dragon are negative examples
So you just don't like sex humor then. Dragons was fun and plenty creative.
The “fun adventures” are only occasionally original and captivating enough, and the story stuff is presented in the way where the show is embarrassed at itself to do it. Something like the ending of the Unity episode or Fart wouldn’t happen anymore because the show is embarrassed to be earnest in any way. I still like the show more than most, but it’s always despite something now.
Sex jokes are fine, the monster that looked like it was fricking in Morty’s parents bed or Squanchy, or Jellybean were all handled appropriately, a smaller part of a larger whole, not the joke of the episode.
At the end of the day, the show is facing an identity crisis. The first episode of season 3 severed the entire arc of the series up until that point, and ended in a way that was not leaving people excited for the next season like 1->2 or 2->3, and because of that, fans ragged on the season even though it was the most ambitious, and now the writers are afraid of trying things that are fresh or bold (aside from standout episodes like Ricklantis).
The biggest fix is the dynamic between Rick and Morty, the characters are unrecognizable. Morty has become too Rick-like, and Rick fluctuates between God and frickup. Together I don’t believe they care about each other enough anymore. They don’t feel like family, or friends or partners, they feel like begrudging business associates at best.
Biggest improvement has been the rest of the family, it seems like they got the message that Beth and Jerry can’t be the same story over and over. Summer is still the weak link but she’s around.
When people say “just make it about adventures” what they’re really saying is “I’ll settle for jokes because you’re clearly not going to do right by the characters enough for me to push for more than that.” And that’s sad. The show used to be able to do it all.
>Something like the ending of the Unity episode or Fart wouldn’t happen anymore because the show is embarrassed to be earnest in any way.
What is Star Mort. What is the Planetina episode. What is the Two Crows episode. The writers LOVE earnest character drama and plot progression. But they never pass an opportunity to throw some shade at the fans who ONLY watch for that stuff. It's a silly meta jab that makes light of how the crew has no choice but to pad out some of that overarching narrative to fill up the 70-episode order while keeping the show marketable and familiar.
>Sex jokes = a smaller part of a larger whole, not the joke of the episode.
>I still like the show more than most, but it’s always despite something now.
I like these takes. Seasons 4 & 5 were fun in my opinion, but there are a few episodes or B-plots that feel like chores to get through.
>What are those episodes
Decent, but less impactful episodes that don’t work as well because of what’s become of the characters. Here’s the easiest way I can put it down:
Morty should be the voice of optimism an earnestness that drives the show. Rick is allowed to treat the fantastical as passe, but when Morty doesn’t approach Rick’s world with a sense of wonder, how can the audience? I know the writers want to give him character growth, but when that growth is to become more like Rick, it makes the audience more like Rick, and you don’t want a room full of Ricks to present your show to.
Rick needs to be mostly competent, but over his head when things get tough. I know it can be fun to use Rick as a get out of jail free card for anything you need solved, but as a walking God, stakes are very low and it makes it hard to care about everything. It would be like in Back to the Future, if Doc Brown heard Marty’s predicament and was just like “okay give me 20 minutes and a stick of gum and i’ll send you back to 1985”.) Imagine the dramatic climax of the pilot today, Rick would just turn into a battle robot and kill all the bugs in two seconds and quip about it. He also PLEASE PLEASE needs to stop rolling his eyes at his own show. All that does is suck away investment people have in it.
When people care about the character again, when people feel that the threat of the episode is real again, when the show isn’t embarrassed of it self again, then the dramatic moments will feel earned and real. I’m seriously hoping the finale of S5 is a nod that the show is going the right direction, it was the highlight of the season (and not because of Evil Morty, sure I cared about the plotline, but more than that I cared about Rick and Morty feeling like real family/partners, and Rick seemingly getting nerfed out of his Godhood.)
>He also PLEASE PLEASE needs to stop rolling his eyes at his own show. All that does is suck away investment people have in it.
Smart post. This anon knows what's up. I want funny science grandpa and awestruck grandson again. I love the work they've done with Morty, but I am worried to see just how much further they can push his "Rickness."
What'd you think of the way Rick and Morty interacted in "The Vat of Acid Episode" by the way? I feel at least a part of that episode's praise comes from the two characters' dynamic throughout the whole ordeal; Rick really does care for Morty and wants to make him happy, but he also wants to keep him in his place and will go to the greatest lengths to win a petty argument. I find it to be a funny but sweet relationship they have.
One of the best episodes since season 2.
I'm really happy it was so universally loved. The conflict is actually caused by Rick WANTING to impress Morty with his Vat of Acid idea, only to be ridiculed by the guy he deems "his subordinate." So Rick does as Rick does and pulls another Heistotron scheme to keep Morty humble. Very interesting character writing, with plenty of funny jokes throughout. I want to see more like this. Definitely deserving of that Emmy win.
>3. Fun adventures, without abandoning plot threads altogether
Do you know difficult that is? These female writers heads will explode, they will just double down on the cringe, incest, fetishes and man hating.
I'm surprised people disliked season 3 i thought it was pretty good
This. It was the show's most ambitious at the time since it covered a season-long arc and really tested each character in different ways. Morty and Summer worked through their frustrations over their parents' marital problems, Beth and Jerry each took a good look at their relationship and respective roles in the family before reconciling and becoming stronger characters for it (also kicking off the Space Beth plot thread in the process), and the Rick and Jerry episode did not disappoint. And there were still plenty of funny or memorable moments throughout. S3 also includes my favorite episode from the entire series: the Detox episode. Really, I'd say Vindicators and The ABCs of Beth were the only weak ones out of the bunch. The season as a whole was solid.
If they went back to writing stuff in the style of seasons 1 and 2 and stop with all the BS and bring back the classic writers and fired the woman and have Harmon apologize for what he did to this show that could have been the next Simpsons.
More Morty in his underwear would lure me
Maybe stop trying to tell me what to think and let me enjoy the funny hijinks
If the writing stopped feeling like family guy with Rick announcing to the audience every single joke before he does anything,
An incest episode where they find a universe where rick rails morty every night
Give Rick his pilot personality back and cut the psued bullshit
Episode about an alien species called Black folk. Rick talks about them casually and unfiltered which makes Morty and the family uncomfortable, and the episode becomes in part an absurdist critique of the arbitrary taboo around the word Black person in American society. As people on Earth get all offended with Rick's use of the word Black person, the rest of the galaxy knows exactly what Rick is talking about. Perhaps it could involve Earth fending off the Black person menace and include black people saying "frick Black folk" as they partake in killing them. You could also have Jerry go from getting humiliated for being too stuck-up to say it around Rick's alien buddies to accidentally slipping it out around a gang of black thugs at the end of the episode and getting curb stomped for it. Of course none of this is in any position to ever see the light of day for as long as Rick and Morty exists in a metacultural context that compels Justin Roiland & co to remain firmly within the constraints of early 21st century political correctness in a way that forces an illogical compromise to the supposedly above-it-all character of Rick Sanchez, which constitutes the fundamental contradiction of Rick and Morty.
>You could also have Jerry go from getting humiliated for being too stuck-up to say it around Rick's alien buddies to accidentally slipping it out around a gang of black thugs at the end of the episode and getting curb stomped for it
Goddamnit I can practically see the post-credit scene, 10/10 anon
I never lost interest. They've really improved after getting rid of their toxic male writers. They've even won multiple awards since then
Rick’s fourth wall breaks used to come off as coming from a fan of his own show “See you for season 2, I love my grandkids haha”
To a cynical butthole about his own show
“You want my crybaby backstory? You want to jump the shark? There, now people can shut up about it.”
Random thought but did anyone else find season 4 to be really comfy? Maybe it was just a personal thing as I took a break from college and stayed home most of the time besides going grocery shopping while it aired but it felt weirdly soothing.
>The callbacks to previous seasons ranging from the Meeseeks, Blitz & Chitz, operation phoenix, the story train episode in general, and the continuation of the Galactic Federation arc.
>The Christmas theme going on the background during two episodes.
>Arguably the prettiest visuals the show has ever produced (the story train in Never Ricking Morty, the tranquil wilderness in The Old Man and the Seat, the impressive and planet-dwarfing technology used by Heist-o-tron, the Glorzo city, and the factory where Rick and Morty meet with the mobsters in the vat of acid episode).
>The mean-spiritedness towards Jerry felt more toned down with the sole exception of Summer's rant at him in the planet/camping episode.
The show still has merit despite the problems I have with late Rick and Morty, yes, season 4 felt like the team mostly doing their best to listen to the criticisms of Season 3, and trying to return to adventure. Comfy is the right word. Season 5 was the same, but a bit more inconsistent, the standouts are better, but the worst was worse.
Rick and Morty is really good at presenting inviting atmospheres, and it's easily one of THE most visually impressive shows currently airing. The art team really took Justin Roiland's doodles and made a damn pretty animated series out of it. You can have your own opinions regarding the show's writing, but you can't deny it's a total visual feast.
Never lost interest. Disregarding the mixed quality later, its always entertaining. Unlike most comedy cartoons.
I'm not really sure if anything could. I think maybe if Roiland was more involved in the writing and Dan Harmon left, I think that could help.
Rick and Morty worked because Rick and Morty were very different people. It would be like if Spongebob became more like Squidward, or if Stimpy became more like Ren, it just waters down the dynamic and turns us all into a bunch of Ricks/Squidwards/Rens
1. Bring more intelligent writting back to the jokes. It's most weak references and meta humor now.
2. Bring Rick's power level back down. A character that is God is boring. Except for when the writers suddenly need him to not be God, which is inconsistent. In season 1 and 2 he was extremely competent, but not omnipotent
3. Writers need to decide if they was the show to be episodic or serialized . They half assing having deep stories and character arc, but then b***h slapping the audience for being invested and killing all the emotional weight DOES NOT WORK. Either do it or don't. The show feels schizophrenic .
4. Turn everyone back into their own person's, not just different takes on Rick's nihilism.
All this is the only hope the show has at all
New episodes
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All of you will shut up the moment a new trailer drops.
Nope, I’ll give my hopes for the season, watch it, and update my perspective, good or bad.
Rick and Morty is just as much stinky fascist shit as South Park. Cartoons from Trump's bedding.
Season 1 & 2:
Morty: Oh wow oh geez this is amazing/terrifying/heavy, Rick!
Rick: Haha here’s my catchphrase! See you next episode everybody! Nothing matters but oops I was wrong things do matter!
Season 3, 4 & 5:
Morty: Seen it. Nothing amazing. Nothing matters. Might freak out a bit but eh what’s the point.
Rick: Seen it. Nothing amazing. Nothing matters. Might blow shit up a bit but eh what’s the point.
>Rick: Haha here’s my catchphrase! See you next episode everybody! Nothing matters but oops I was wrong things do matter!
Feel like pure shit just want him back
"A Rickle in Time" was such a fricking good premiere to follow the ending of Season 1. Just a stellar episode on its own honestly.
No more lore just random scifi comedy like season 1
Season 1 had lore, anon. We saw the galactic federation in the pilot episode.
More Cosbys
if rick and jerry fricked
No.
Unbased taste. The only good possible pairings are (in order by sexiness):
Beth x Summer
Rick x Summer
Summer x Evil Morty
Rick x Jessica while Morty's forced to watch as a lesson
You're forgetting Beth x Clone Beth.
Now I'd be down for THAT.
Jerry X New character that actually likes him and lets him grow as a person somewhat
Is that not Beth post-divorce? The two of them have been actively working on their marriage together in the background and exploring their sex life ever since. You see them in couples therapy during the S4 finale, and the S5 premiere literally gives them that funny C-plot. Jerry & Beth are closer now than ever. Really feels like they've got each other's back now.
Not much, probably like two bowls.
AIDS!
Interdimensional Cable 3
The novelty already wore off by the second installment. That's why they've experimented with other anthology formats ever since: Morty's Mind Blowers, Story Train, Decoys (sort of). Interdimensional Cable will just be relegated to occasional background gags now.
more summer and beth fan service
You're desperate. Beth is too plain and Summer is literally just Ponytail Jerry. We just need more hot one-off gals. If they can keep that up, I'll never leave.
I've been thinking that conflict between Jerry and Rick would be more interesting if Jerry was more respected by the rest of the family.
So Rick can do all this mad scientist stuff and cheat death and blah blah blah but he just keeps failing to undermine this unemployed loser as the family patriarch.
IDK, maybe this change would be better if it was part of their dynamic from the start. I just feel like Jerry needs a win
>So Rick can do all this mad scientist stuff and cheat death and blah blah blah but he just keeps failing to undermine this unemployed loser as the family patriarch.
I'd love that. This is what made the Season 3 finale so funny and weirdly satisfying to me. No matter how powerful Rick thinks he is, he can't kick Jerry out of the family for good. Rick will always have to put up with this mediocre guy whether he likes it or not. I feel the show's been handling the dynamic between Rick and Jerry a little better ever since. Rick doesn't seem as antagonistic since he's always got his own annoying shit to deal with (the dinner with Nimbus), and Jerry's been able to just chill and even defend himself more often. There was the talking cat situation, and there was the whole Hellraiser episode this latest season, the latter of which hinting that maybe the two of them really COULD get along: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VYx81MTBPQ
Beth being written out 95% of the time and Summer being written out 70% of the time.No family drama bullshit or serious emotional moments.
>No family drama bullshit or serious emotional moments.
You've got Solar Opposites for that. I want me some moving character drama. Lots and lots of it.
>look at how sad Rick is for not being able to have sex
gay.
no black, israeli, or female writers. make this explicit in the opening of every episode.
the power rangers
Guys I got it ... we turn Rick and Morty not into aliens ... but into female bunny clones with super powers, even the male ones will look like girls and have dubbed girl voices. BOOM, we saved the show. b***hes will be all over that Pikachu dick.
Dan Harmond's a pedophile.
nah he’s just a weirdo
So there IS hope for the theory that this is a stealth continuation of [REDACTED]
aw jeez
nothing. its fricking insufferable, reminds me of superjail.
Shittiest of tastes.
Superjail was based until Stingray took over.
If you're saying R&M reminds you of Stingray-jail, then you're on the money. Otherwise, frick off.
Interdimensional cable 3
22-minute Boob World adventure.
An entire season that was 4/5 or higher.
What do you mean by that? Like, 4/5 as in quality-wise? What would constitute a 4/5 or higher in your opinion?
They're already making a season 6, moron
Something tells me this show has a revival in it.
Revival? It's far from dead, so that wouldn't even make any sense. 100 Years Rick and Morty
Not literally, just a bit spiritually. It does feel like it's trying though. Fingers crossed for S6.
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, Rickmurai Jack's ending really opens a whole world of possibilities for the show moving forward. Hopefully the writers have some cool ideas in store, with some solid jokes and new characters along the way.
Kino.
Loved the first two seasons. Season 3 felt like a change with it's writing style, kinda like season 8 or 9 of the Simpsons but it still had some good eps with some odd one's. Season 4 was too mid for me, not many stand out eps, don't remember much from this season besides the shitty loose dragons ep. Season 5 had a bunch of bad to mediocre eps, like the space incest baby and that Voltron ep. Only the final 3 eps were any good, ep 1 was alright, didn't care for the rest.
At this point I don't have much hope for the series being able to retain the quality of it's writing that the first two or 3 seasons had. Feels like they've hit the wall. At best you can hope to see at least three good eps in a season and the rest will either be mediocre or outright bad.
I feel like I have more episodes in season 2 I skip on rewatch.
Sounds to me like you need to rewatch Seasons 4 & 5 then if all you remember are the lows. S4 had Heistotron, Snakes, Story Train, Vat of Acid, and Space Beth. S5 had Decoys, Planetina, Thanksgiving Turkeys, and the string of three lore-heavy episodes. And both seasons had god-tier premieres. Rick and Morty still had some stinkers like the ones you mentioned, but the show as a whole is still a blast to watch.
I marathon the series last two weeks. Season four didn’t impress me much and started to wane on watching more of it. Season five had higher highs but also lower lows than season four did.
More Summer episodes
I wish Justin stopped phoning in his Rick voice. He rarely stutters or burps anymore and sounds like he's always bored.
That's because he IS bored. Justin doesn't care about the show like he used to. It's just a job and a paycheck to him now. I doubt he's even familiar with each new episode script until it's time to record his lines.
It picking a side.
Either be serialized, serious, and overturn the concept of a status quo, or be episodic, silly, and have things reset like Kenny coming back every episode.
The fanbase as it stands is a house divided between 2 sects: people who give a shit about Rick's backstory, and people who don't. You can please some of the people some of the time, but most episodes end up pleasing neither.
A release date for Season 6.
Never liked it to begin with, this style of "humor" isnt for me and theres only few interesting concepts they explore in its premise.
Dan Harmon's suicide
If they got more female writers on and wrote more hilarious episodes like the jizz monster episode (like seriously, an underground civilization of horses? What were they smoking haha) I also wonder what the finite curve shit has in store for us, wowzer, we sure are in it now.