First and foremost, tons of people enjoy large breasts so a comic can live on that alone if enough people know and support it.
But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible. Aside from having a engaging character and setting (no shit), the creators needs to not be ashamed of the heroine's large breasts but also not focus on them too much either. That's your best chance.
>But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible. Aside from having a engaging character and setting (no shit), the creators needs to not be ashamed of the heroine's large breasts but also not focus on them too much either. That's your best chance.
Yes, this. Make them huge but lay off most the fan service. Essentially someone like Dolly Parton who had huge breasts but they didn't zoom in on them for movies or in concert.
You'd have to have an endearing character with a lot of personality where the boobs are an incidental asset rather than being the one joke or exaggerated characteristic. I'm gonna be citing Suprdee's Rosebuds as an example of what I'm talking about. She's got massive breasts, but the comic revolves around the dynamic of her protective and strict attitude with her sisters. The comic doesn't act ashamed of it, but doesn't overfocus on them; they just happen to be a part of Rosa's body and nothing else, and it never needs to say that to get the point across. Also, the times they are used for a jab, they're less on the titillating side and more on the comedic side. Picrel
I said a good story, not a gay one.
For example. >Mage/Witch has to go on adventure to save her childhood friend. >Ten comic issues, she has an arc, finds friends along the way, stops the big bad. >she looks good, fights alright(except in melee range), is kind of dumb but genuinely sweet as can be. >Shes also stacked with big heavy breasts. >Reunites with childhood friend. Epilogue is them growing closer and getting married, with the last page being her and him and a few kids waving to the reader and thanking them for reading.
Linda Carter was(yes I know 45 years ago, but she's still the most important pop culture impact she's had) and her breasts were bigger than they were in the comics.
First and foremost, tons of people enjoy large breasts so a comic can live on that alone if enough people know and support it.
But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible. Aside from having a engaging character and setting (no shit), the creators needs to not be ashamed of the heroine's large breasts but also not focus on them too much either. That's your best chance.
>But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible. Aside from having a engaging character and setting (no shit), the creators needs to not be ashamed of the heroine's large breasts but also not focus on them too much either. That's your best chance.
Yes, this. Make them huge but lay off most the fan service. Essentially someone like Dolly Parton who had huge breasts but they didn't zoom in on them for movies or in concert.
First and foremost, tons of people enjoy large breasts so a comic can live on that alone if enough people know and support it.
But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible. Aside from having a engaging character and setting (no shit), the creators needs to not be ashamed of the heroine's large breasts but also not focus on them too much either. That's your best chance.
Depends on what you mean by mainstream but it'd ultimately come down to tone. Like if you want Avengers tier "getting PreK spinoffs and printed on offbrand ipad covers" you're shit out of luck but if you want something as big as Deadpool or the Boys you can definitely manage so long as you're in the camp of "We're mostly here to have fun". So in the end you need to find the sweetspot for what's majority of normalgays litmus "this is just cheeky sex antics" and "this is degeneracy". The line isn't quite as clear as you think, also confidence. The biggest issue is most nerd media is so eager to be taken serious and be liked that they ask for permission on everything and immediately bend to what they think everyone else will think is cool. I can't have people in colorful costumes because people might think they look dorky. I can't have over the top fantastic scenarios people might say it's too unrealistic. I can't have women with nice big breasts they might call it sexist. Just write a fun fricking story that has all that shit and you're golden. Like if you have a bunch of big titty women but they're not doing anything of interest or worse yet they're drawn like shit, of course nobody is going to care.
TL;DR, Don't be too weird, Stop being cowards, and make it worth reading/watching
It's that easy
Doesn't even have to be a profound one, it just needs to be balls to the wall cool and engaging
Manga is able to get away with much since it's big enough to have an audience for almost anything, so confidence and work can get you far. Just know what you want and hope for the audience to find you. Mainstream will just require you to control some urges, but it can be done. Especially for the superhero genre, which was already outlandish and wish fulfilling to begin with.
But something like MHA is BIG TIME. It'd be like if DC had a character with bigger breasts than PG, a bigger push but also written REALLY well and also, ya know, has huge breasts so you can hate her.
I'm sick of ppl hating on huge breasts because they exist instead of, this character with huge breasts is written poorly.
Decades of miniscule representation of busty women in media will have that affect. Almost none get to be anything but a sexy joke aside from someone like Jessica Rabbit.
Rise of anime and manga helps a little but the problem is said women are side characters that dont get to do much and are still often paper thin and there for a singular purpose.
It's incredibly naive for you to think good writing is going to save anything. I thought we learned this lesson back with Nier Automata; sexy female characters are going to be dismissed no matter how much depth they're given.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
MHA is complete garbage especially now so yeah good writing would be preferable...
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Manga is able to get away with much since it's big enough to have an audience for almost anything, so confidence and work can get you far. Just know what you want and hope for the audience to find you. Mainstream will just require you to control some urges, but it can be done. Especially for the superhero genre, which was already outlandish and wish fulfilling to begin with.
You'd be amazed what can fly under the radar. I've known people in college that seemed completely unaware that men find characters like Riza Hawkeye attractive. So long as you cover skin, dress characters practically, and don't give them "the girl" personality. You can make them as sexy as you want.
I think a lot of people, especially the terminally online social media people that make up the bulk of these conversations, just have a strawmen of guys being very basic and shallow in their head.
Like I've seen a post making the rounds about how guys will say "hear me out" and post the most basic b***h average attractive girl but the actual "hear me out" is for shit like vaporeon or SCPs.
Or that ancient twitter screenshot of a girl claiming that a gender reversed beauty and the beast wouldn't work because guys would never and then she got her mind blown wide open by monster girl fetishism.
It's weird when they're terminally online but in their own bubble.
Like there's a monsterfricker thread and they had a woman on twitter with an image that said "when a guy says hear me out they mean a normal woman without makeup, when a woman says hear me out *posts a picture of a mindflayer from bg3" like somehow you'ree a monsterfricker but wholly unaware that male monsterfrickers are a thing and absolutely degenerate.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's just the normal people creative people meme. Everyone wants to think they're special. If someone in the outgroup is similar, then you've wasted your life identifying with the ingroup.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lmao, how would a woman be able to find mind flayer porn but not find all the stuff for men and women into female monsters?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Most Mindflayer porn is Mindflayers raping women. So at best they just think "men only get a convoluted rape scenario out of this" and at worst "This appeals to women who want to get raped by a mindflayer". Sexy Mindflayesses are sadly pretty far and in between.
Women have no idea what men really find attractive. They think they know what the male gaze is, but what really bothers them is advertising and their own TV shows.
My mom was legitimately surprised I liked Kim Kardashian's large butt and my younger sister was surprised I liked women with strong or hooked noses.
Women have no idea. They blame men but it's really women behind their brands and shows and films that make them suffer. I'm not asking women to get nose jobs. I'm not asking them to starve their breasts off
It's weird when they're terminally online but in their own bubble.
Like there's a monsterfricker thread and they had a woman on twitter with an image that said "when a guy says hear me out they mean a normal woman without makeup, when a woman says hear me out *posts a picture of a mindflayer from bg3" like somehow you'ree a monsterfricker but wholly unaware that male monsterfrickers are a thing and absolutely degenerate.
It cuts both ways. I've seen plenty of guys assume all women want big dick chads and get surprised when a lot of them are into nerds and dads.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
To be fair I can distinctly recall a time when I googled "dad bod" the first few image results are of Jason Momoa.
Kinda gives the wrong impression.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
A little bit but the ultimate take away is you don't have to be an 11/10 uberchad virtuoso to get a girlfriend the same way a woman doesn't need to be literally Barbie out the box to find a man. The people who say that shit are usually just salty that they don't have an absurdly ideal life and are projecting it all onto looks. Fat b***hes are pretending the world is knocking them down for not adhering to beauty standards but really they just want to be given everything that super models are getting, Incels pretend that everyone hates them for being ugly but really they just want to live out the CHAD thunderwiener delusions. They can't be perfect and have everything so they become isolated and weird rather than just fixing what they can and finding people who would never give a shit if they're not literal perfection. It's all projection.
They were complaining about women's bodies on TV funny enough and all I said was those women looked alright. They were surprised that my standards for women were far kinder than their own. I wasn't talking to them about what turns me on. I just said they look ok
>Essentially someone like Dolly Parton who had huge breasts but they didn't zoom in on them for movies or in concert.
Now this is lying to the crowd, I give you the concerts, but in the movies she played there was all ways attension given to her breasts one way or another.
>But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible. Aside from having a engaging character and setting (no shit), the creators needs to not be ashamed of the heroine's large breasts but also not focus on them too much either. That's your best chance.
Yes, this. Make them huge but lay off most the fan service. Essentially someone like Dolly Parton who had huge breasts but they didn't zoom in on them for movies or in concert.
It's both funny and frustrating how it feels like mainstream animation and comics have gotten more okay with once taboo topics like gratuitous violence, onscreen sex or spectrum characters, but having large breasted women is still a no go. Probably get a weird look just for suggesting it, but hey. Some folks just like tiddy monsters and wanna see more done with them.
It's because of some autistic women with low sexual concordance and the men who befriend them and love them and this want to protect them. That and men never having a sexual revolution and we still operate under the idea that male sexual desire is sinful or shameful.
Some spurgy women get in the writing room and they feel threatened or challenged by attractive women in media but they don't know why because they have low sexual concordance, so they just feel this vague anxiety in the back of their head. They have read feminism and shit about the male gaze so they use that to explain their anxiety but ultimately it's as simple as they feel a cartoon is challenging their value as a mate.
And men just go along with it because they were never liberated from sexual shame and because they want to protect their female friends, coworkers, and lovers. Men are just wired to try to make women in their life feel better.
So they flip out over the cartoon titty and men just go along with it out of shame and a desire to protect
Ultimately though men and women who like these types of designs should tell these women to shut up. They are not in competition with cartoons and male sexual desire is valid. It stressing some women out doesn't make it invalid. We would not tell a woman she can't jerk off to tall men, we should not shame men for liking boobs
I get this is bait but no we really do. Being the default is still a cage of certain expectations and requirements and anything outside of that cage is treated with scorn and ostracized and that kinda sucks for everybody.
>Male sexuality has always been the default, you never needed a revolution.
It being the default says nothing about male sexuality in the industrial world still being shackled to judo Christian shame
Not bait, you don't need a sexual revolution. You are not comparable to what women had to put up with for decades.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Male sexuality has always been the default, you never needed a revolution.
Don't tell me you've never been shamed for your sexual preference. I've been looked down upon for saying I prefer skinny women. But gay men and women can talk about how much they like muscle-bound men as much as they want.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No I haven't and neither have any of the people I know. I assume you must have been a creep about it and that’s why you’ve been reprimanded.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He probably said it on Reddit and got banned from a sub
Reddit will ban you from a sub for anything
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Frick off, and no I wasn't. It was one of those moronic school assignments that female teachers like to throw at you sometimes, where they ask the class what they'd like to see in a partner. Since I was just a freshman, I'd never dated anybody at that point and struggled to come up with even 2 things.
The reason I got shamed is because a lot of women in my family have weight issues, and only 1 of them actually does anything about it.
Now back to the topic at hand. The lack of a Male Sexual Revolution has produced double standards between the sexes. A man saying he doesn't want to date a fatass, is treated like a dick. But a woman saying she doesn't want to date a fatass is seen as logical and just. Neither of them are wrong, you don't need to lower your standards and date somebody 100 lbs heavier than you.
Don't tell me it's because women have a lot more body issues than men do. Just look at that mewing trend where men are trying to reconstruct their faces by rubbing metal tools on their chins. Both man and woman are susceptible to low self esteem.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Complaining about this makes you an incel, anon.
Of course, tying your worth as a person to sexual achievement is toxic masculinity, but only when guys do it, so it's okay for me to use incel as a pejorative. It's not hypocritical at all.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Don't tell me it's because women have a lot more body issues than men do.
You clearly never talk to women. You really are an incel.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I talk to a ton of women. They even tell me about all the times actual creeps have harassed them in public. You sound like male feminist. If you don't know, that means you're a rapist
Complaining about this makes you an incel, anon.
Of course, tying your worth as a person to sexual achievement is toxic masculinity, but only when guys do it, so it's okay for me to use incel as a pejorative. It's not hypocritical at all.
Oh yeah I know how shit my optics are. That anon just refuses to understand that men have their own want, the same as women. He's probably gonna call me an incel again, because he needs to make the last reply to win this moronic internet argument.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
1. I'm a female you incel.
2. The fact that you accuse other people of being rapists reflects poorly on you.
You seem more invested in this meaningless online argument than anyone else here
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
breasts or gtfo
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Tis or gtfo
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Show proof.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Now back to the topic at hand.
The topic at hand was big breasts in comics and cartoons.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Don't tell me it's because women have a lot more body issues than men do. Just look at that mewing trend where men are trying to reconstruct their faces by rubbing metal tools on their chins. Both man and woman are susceptible to low self esteem
Women have no idea how bad male body issues are now. How many do insane carnivore diets. Steroids. Mewing. Mother frickers getting a pound of silicone in their dicks. No idea.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Doesn’t feel so good does it? Maybe now you know what women feel.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
schrodinger's woman, thinks men don't understand women and understand women but some how still gets a spiteful dig in abd when men suffer it is still some how about women's suffering
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
why? women don't want or care about men so why would they care what they think?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The lack of a Male Sexual Revolution has produced double standards between the sexes.
Those double standards are imposed BY men not because "muh revolution!" Maybe do your homework on feminism before trying to copy their tactics. You'd see how stupid a Male Sexual Revolution is.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They are imposed by everyone. Especially straights. Gay men unironically love big ole breasts as much as normal red blooded men
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It was one of those moronic school assignments that female teachers like to throw at you sometimes, where they ask the class what they'd like to see in a partner
you say that like it's normal
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't know man, happened to me twice. I hated it both times. Once in middle school and the other in high school. Iirc, I had to involve my parents for the high school assignment.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
what region?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Minnesota, bigger city. This was 10 years ago.
What class was it?
Because you're unlocking a 20 year old memory from english class/creative writing that was about having to do that.
In middle school, it was a choir class. And the teacher wanted to do some weird warm up where we'd just write about ourselves. She asked what we consider beautiful. I didn't know what to write, so I just wrote a symmetrical face. Dumb answer for a stupid question.
In high school, it was in a 9th grade English. In which we'd have to write what we wanted in a partner. After writing funny and smart, I couldn't think of anything else. I think I had to bring my answers to my parents before I turned it in.
If I could do it differently, I would have padded it out with flowery stuff. Like self-driven, caring, opinionated, etc. But I was just a stupid freshman, who barely had an idea of what a relationship really is.
I can't remember what that assignment was even supposed to tie into. Maybe it was because we read Romeo & Juliet
that semester.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Maybe it was because we read Romeo & Juliet
that's wierd, thats just about the stupidest thing you could tie to that assignment. it's two idiots killing themselves over their feefees
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Upstate New York
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What class was it?
Because you're unlocking a 20 year old memory from english class/creative writing that was about having to do that.
>I get this is bait but no we really do.
Once again, straight men are the most oppressed minority group.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't expect me to fight for your reproductive rights then, when I can't even ask if I *have* any, since that's "claiming oppression".
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why would they need you?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Women don't have the votes to change anything on their own.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Women make up the majority of voters, 55% vs 45% for men in the US. In some euro countries it's as high as 60%
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So that's why everything has gone to shit.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
majority of votes are fake. or do you honestly believe every single county, town, city, country has near identical splits in votes that come down to a few thousand every time?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Don't expect me to fight for your reproductive rights then
I had no expectations to begin with, as if you cared.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>when I can't even ask if I *have* any, since that's "claiming oppression".
You can pump and dump with free abandon, I say you have plenty of reproduction rights.
>and I've never heard of giant gazzongas being cut for feminism reason
They don't get cut they just never get added in the first place.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This. Kim Possible was basically the beginning of indoctrination.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon, there wasn't a hoard of giant breasts in cartoons before Kim possible. It's not some ground zero for tit oppression. You sound nuts
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And you sound like you hate women
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Anon, there wasn't a hoard of giant breasts in cartoons before Kim possible.
Uh yeah that's my point.
They just never existed. Nothing got cut or removed or censored.
>large breasted
That the problem, normies like "large breasts" but not actual large breasts, hell OP probably wasn't even asking about breasts as big as the one you posted.
The only reason anime gets away with it is because it don't try to market itself to normies llike western media does
Unironically he could probably get away with it. He’s already made two comics with big titty leads, one of which got picked up by king features, and his characters are known by normies.
I wish motherfrickers would take five fricking seconds to recognize WHY he’s getting away with big breasts in Rosebuds. He gets away with it because 99% of the time it’s “just there”, there’s no anime-shit jokes about people bumping into them, or being prudish, or whole panels dedicated to stair by at them and on and on and and on. It’s just THERE, like an elbow, and no more or less for it.
You can do the one off joke- and he has- but that’s the secret sauce to bringing it to something mainstream these days.
Don’t bring attention to the big breasts. Just let them BE and you can do whatever the frick you want.
How else do you think they can give every mom a FAT ASS in Pixar? No one gives two fricks about it in-universe.
>But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible.
or you could make a really good designed character with a well written dialogue and a very good story... oh and make the girl extremely attractive too
this is the reason why they fail over and over with new characters so much they have to take old loved ones and "upgrade" them for newer audiences and see how that fails too
pandering is always a mistake, just do your own thing, period
>or you could make a really good designed character with a well written dialogue and a very good story... oh and make the girl extremely attractive too
doesn't work. reductionist takes arethe critique du jour, people will just reduce the project to waifu bait.
it's 2024. people judge books by their covers now.
You're supposed to judge a book by its cover, the point of the cover is to catch your attention and give you an idea of what you're getting into. The idea that you shouldn't comes from subversives who want you to ignore red flags and break your pattern recognition skills so you're less wary of them.
She'd have to be unapologetically gay and hate men. Otherwise being physically attractive to men would make her problematic. Thus she has to be personally unattractive to men and constantly validate that she does not need nor want the male attention she would otherwise get.
Making it about lesbians won't work. Maid Dragon tried that. It'd have to be made *by* lesbians and be off putting as hell, so as not to be "male gaze-y"
It's quite the zeitgheist nowadays though. Every powerful and attractive female character is either gay or bisexual (ie gay because she'll never be with a man). I'm surprised they let Wonder Woman and Shulkie still have male love interests at this point. You can't have an attractive and powerful female character be accepted and NOT check one of those boxes.
You'd have to have an endearing character with a lot of personality where the boobs are an incidental asset rather than being the one joke or exaggerated characteristic. I'm gonna be citing Suprdee's Rosebuds as an example of what I'm talking about. She's got massive breasts, but the comic revolves around the dynamic of her protective and strict attitude with her sisters. The comic doesn't act ashamed of it, but doesn't overfocus on them; they just happen to be a part of Rosa's body and nothing else, and it never needs to say that to get the point across. Also, the times they are used for a jab, they're less on the titillating side and more on the comedic side. Picrel
This is just Cinemaphiles fetish. What I mean to say is, Cinemaphile loves the idea of a character being designed to be sexy but the creator either never bringing it to light or it somehow getting passed censors.
Like a woman who has big breasts but no one ever pointing that out.
Let's say that you need 51% of the population to get your way. If half of women don't vote in their own interest (so, 25% of the population), how are you going to make up that remaining 26%?
You just said you don't need men voting for it, so where's the rest of the votes coming from?
>If it is my nature to goon
That's not in your nature, you're just pathetic and have no self control. Quite creating a false equivalence and making masturbation your whole personality.
>That's not in your nature, you're just pathetic and have no self control. Quite creating a false equivalence and making masturbation your whole personality.
You obviously don't understand men or women with strong libidos. You seek to oppress others, treating your self like the ideal human that all other humans should be judged by
>What would it take for a big titty hero to go mainstream?
Time travel. You'd have to go back in time and prevent puritans (possibly all Anglos) from making it to the new world, and give the entire western hemisphere to the French instead.
>the French
Aside from Vivès and Balak, are there any mainstream french artist who draw huge breasts? Frogs might not have a stick up their ass about sex but they couldn't give a shit about non petite women
I wasn't pleasantly surprised by the good writing tips at the beginning of this thread.
How naive I was to think it wouldn't be derailed by off topic politics.
But ultimately you're not oppressed, you're just a coward. The worst you can ever incur for creating big titty art is some literally who on the internet might call you a coomercel. Man Your struggle is the fear of not being able to post ejoy breasts without an irrelevant minority posting online, and guys like you let them have that power.
>Man Your struggle is the fear of not being able to post ejoy breasts without an irrelevant minority posting online, and guys like you let them have that power.
If we are talking comics and cartoons the possible repercussions would be making yourself unemployable. Only women can do cringe shit and keep their jobs. We just saw the show runner for X-Men 97 being ran off his show for having an only fans and he was gay. Being bg will not shield men
>We just saw the show runner for X-Men 97 being ran off his show for having an only fans and he was gay. Being bg will not shield men
Disney was fine for his OnlyFans for years. He was fired for being hard to work with.
Quit trying to victimize yourself.
>Nice casual racism. Really shows you're being genuine.
I'm not the one painting all men as unemployed. No man on a normal payroll with their income reported to the state and fed can run around making babies with zero repercussions
Probably not as controversial now, but big breasts are cool. But girl with big ass and thighs flat chest better than girl with big chest but no ass and thigh gap
/pol/tards like you use to describe all black men because that's what you genuinely believe. Maybe don't use stupid terms like that when acting like you're oppressed?
That was what this thread was created for. If you want that the. You have to start with a titty thread and not some obvious bait everyone uses to complain about politics and pretend there are no big titty characters.
I mean yeah. You want to force people to behave a certain way and have media cater to you only based on your taste despite it all having no real impact on your ability to feed or shelter yourself or feel safe at home.
You kind of are an butthole. This is how buttholes think
You cannot consume media without there being ass and breasts to jerk off to, make it your whole life and then proclaim you are an oppressed minority like blacks or gays. SAD! >You kind of are an butthole. This is how buttholes think
Welcome to the site of buttholes, are you new here?
>You cannot consume media without there being ass and breasts to jerk off to, make it your whole life and then proclaim you are an oppressed minority like blacks or gays. SAD!
“I take it back, Kim, you’re not being a good girl at all!” He grunted, his wiener stiffening more and more within his own teenage daughter’s throat. “Stop fussing with Daddy, and suck me off!”
The only reason humans have large breasts is because most of our ancestors liked it. It is one of many sexual preference differences between humans and other primates. We're the only one that really cares about it as a species
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No youre right, BE wont be a thing except very rarely, im just curious why you gotta announce who you are. Maybe i should start doing that.
See what I mean, you're boring and have no motive. You're just not schizo. You think that there's this formula for why things exist. You're like Zuckerberg, the incel who made Facebook cause titcows rejected him
It would take lots more real women with huge breasts complaining publicly about the lack of big tit representation, about how the media body shames women with large breasts, etc.
Works pretty well for every other "underrepresented" demographic.
I flat out don't know what you mean. Kanye West is notorious for making his wives into fanservice models and P.Diddy is so proficient at making fanservice that he's sex trafficking. I guess rappers get away with it cause they're not a neckbeard like Andrew Tate.
Its a catch 22. Most artists presumably want their work to be most well known for it's writing/art/whatever. Adding a big titty character will consume the bulk of attention 9 times out of 10. Look at Power Girl as a perfect example.
Cinemaphile will endlessly preach >why dont more comics have big titty characters?!?!?
and then when they do every thread is >GUYS NEW COMIC DROPPED IDK WHAT ITS ABOUT BUT CHECK OUT THE breasts!!!
Think of any popular big tit character and ask yourself if they'd be even half as popular if they had an average bust
inb4 >le sjw, I love fat breasts but prefer ass and even I can recognize that big breasts are distracting. Ultimately a big tittied character will be most well regarded for her big breasts first and foremost and anything else is an afterthought
I argue Pulse stopped being fun when it became serious superhero story with a serialized narrative that has no conclusion. Just like how Olympic Dames have been running for 17 years and the characters haven't change much.
>Think of any popular big tit character and ask yourself if they'd be even half as popular if they had an average bust
of course not because no body ever goes out of their way to create a well written titcow. they are always relegated to eye candy.
It's the other way around. No matter how well written the titcow is, she'll be seen as a titcow. You'll have people pouring out of the woodwork falling over themselves to insist the good writing actually isn't, because a well written character would never be built like that.
And that's just here. Normies will be even worse with a much lower bar for what constitutes a busty woman.
No exceptions.
Nami from One Piece maybe. It never really made since for her to get huge boobs. Robin could keep the huge boobs because she had them since her introduction. Flatter Nami was more fun.
And then when she actually gets cast as a Marvel heroine, they don't go and see it because it wasn't the one specific Marvel character they'd fancast her as.
The market for people who just read comics for hot girls (or guys) has never EVER disappeared. They exist and are simply waiting for the void to be filled. If America's reaction to the anime boom has taught me anything, they will accept a poorly made drawing of a girl with big breasts in a heartbeat as long as she's front and center.
You can really only get away with huge breasts in western stuff if the art is super stylized, and even then in the current political climate I highly doubt we'd even get that.
Culture doesn't have gravity, the pendulum idea is for lazy passive homosexuals who want to just believe that things will come back to the way they like it without them putting any skin in the game.
The issue is that Cinemaphile is full of terrible autistic writers whose comic ideas have to be everything to everyone. If they wanted a big tittied character they'd both want absurdly blatant over the top fetish fuel but also maudlin melodrama sometimes at the same time. A total lack of skill and restraint.
No not at all, just that it takes restraint skill and tact that most the guys clamoring for titty monsters lack but then confuse it as the fault of the titty monster herself.
Off the top of my head, One Piece females are majority titty monsters and it's the biggest anime/manga around. Most manga...and comics even.....have monster titty females and unless it's entirely based around their breasts nobody but shrieking harpies really seems to care.
Come on man, One Piece is my favorite manga and the number one complaint in the fandom is how Oda draws women. If you're gonna just say >but those are shrieking harpies
then why not apply that logic to literally everything?
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Because that complaints are negligible and majority of people just enjoy Oda's woman. It's not cutting into their popularity AT ALL.
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twitter is not the fandom. The actual real main complaint is how cluttered and messy the artwork hs become
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I don't even have twitter and you'd have to have been around long enough for the change to effect you. Entry level is still b***hing about Nami and Robin's body type.
If that argument was valid “Escher Girls” would not exist.
Exactly.
No matter what you do you're always going to be faced with people that ree and disqualify your work because the boobs are too big. There is no winning the game.
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>the number one complaint by American woketards is how Oda draws women.
ftfy
Seriously, half of these threads are nitpicks, yet they know Oda is a easy if not designated target, and the only thing stopping them from attacking One piece or any manga directly is that publishers don't care what foreigners think, a problem they don't have on this side of the pacific.
As the world gets more cold and hard, as we become more and more depressed, breasts need to be softer and softer.
Bigger and bigger.
Every man is suffering today. Because women do not let them rest between their breasts when they are sad. It's an unjust world with a simple solution, but one that sadly isn't practical for everyone.
Not much nowadays
her to be from an anime or manga
This, a fricking joke character got more attention then anything from Cinemaphile
Hey, 10 ton lass lives in our hearts anon. The hero we all need
Plenty of dickgirls get attention from here
>staff
Reading MHA it strikes me that Horikoshi has more people on his art team than the US combination of writer/penciller/inker/colorist/letterer.
10t IS best girl.
Who's this?
10t, gag character from BnH.
Offtopic anime. She's underage
>She's underage
Wow, best girl.
and?
Didn't Monster Musume hit some best seller list several times?
They're already pretty mainstream.
Isn't that comic like 18 years old?
>And sometimes you can even reuse the same panel over and over and say it's just for comedic effect or a dramatic pause
Isn't that kinda lazy?
A good story for one.
breasts are one thing, but other than that - she needs a story to have the audience care about her.
Lot of SJWs here
I said a good story, not a gay one.
For example.
>Mage/Witch has to go on adventure to save her childhood friend.
>Ten comic issues, she has an arc, finds friends along the way, stops the big bad.
>she looks good, fights alright(except in melee range), is kind of dumb but genuinely sweet as can be.
>Shes also stacked with big heavy breasts.
>Reunites with childhood friend. Epilogue is them growing closer and getting married, with the last page being her and him and a few kids waving to the reader and thanking them for reading.
Doesn't even have to be a profound one, it just needs to be balls to the wall cool and engaging
is wonder woman not considered mainstream anymore? most a-lister cape women have big breasts.
big tit wonder woman is not mainstream.
Linda Carter was(yes I know 45 years ago, but she's still the most important pop culture impact she's had) and her breasts were bigger than they were in the comics.
WE NEED TO GO BACK
>is wonder woman not considered mainstream anymore? most a-lister cape women have big breasts
Big breasts IRL are average in comics. To have big breasts in a comic, they have to be like E to I cups
D, especially in the 90s was average. They need to be as rare as the strong bodies the male heros have
First and foremost, tons of people enjoy large breasts so a comic can live on that alone if enough people know and support it.
But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible. Aside from having a engaging character and setting (no shit), the creators needs to not be ashamed of the heroine's large breasts but also not focus on them too much either. That's your best chance.
>But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible. Aside from having a engaging character and setting (no shit), the creators needs to not be ashamed of the heroine's large breasts but also not focus on them too much either. That's your best chance.
Yes, this. Make them huge but lay off most the fan service. Essentially someone like Dolly Parton who had huge breasts but they didn't zoom in on them for movies or in concert.
Depends on what you mean by mainstream but it'd ultimately come down to tone. Like if you want Avengers tier "getting PreK spinoffs and printed on offbrand ipad covers" you're shit out of luck but if you want something as big as Deadpool or the Boys you can definitely manage so long as you're in the camp of "We're mostly here to have fun". So in the end you need to find the sweetspot for what's majority of normalgays litmus "this is just cheeky sex antics" and "this is degeneracy". The line isn't quite as clear as you think, also confidence. The biggest issue is most nerd media is so eager to be taken serious and be liked that they ask for permission on everything and immediately bend to what they think everyone else will think is cool. I can't have people in colorful costumes because people might think they look dorky. I can't have over the top fantastic scenarios people might say it's too unrealistic. I can't have women with nice big breasts they might call it sexist. Just write a fun fricking story that has all that shit and you're golden. Like if you have a bunch of big titty women but they're not doing anything of interest or worse yet they're drawn like shit, of course nobody is going to care.
TL;DR, Don't be too weird, Stop being cowards, and make it worth reading/watching
It's that easy
Manga is able to get away with much since it's big enough to have an audience for almost anything, so confidence and work can get you far. Just know what you want and hope for the audience to find you. Mainstream will just require you to control some urges, but it can be done. Especially for the superhero genre, which was already outlandish and wish fulfilling to begin with.
But something like MHA is BIG TIME. It'd be like if DC had a character with bigger breasts than PG, a bigger push but also written REALLY well and also, ya know, has huge breasts so you can hate her.
I'm sick of ppl hating on huge breasts because they exist instead of, this character with huge breasts is written poorly.
Decades of miniscule representation of busty women in media will have that affect. Almost none get to be anything but a sexy joke aside from someone like Jessica Rabbit.
Rise of anime and manga helps a little but the problem is said women are side characters that dont get to do much and are still often paper thin and there for a singular purpose.
It's incredibly naive for you to think good writing is going to save anything. I thought we learned this lesson back with Nier Automata; sexy female characters are going to be dismissed no matter how much depth they're given.
MHA is complete garbage especially now so yeah good writing would be preferable...
You'd be amazed what can fly under the radar. I've known people in college that seemed completely unaware that men find characters like Riza Hawkeye attractive. So long as you cover skin, dress characters practically, and don't give them "the girl" personality. You can make them as sexy as you want.
I think a lot of people, especially the terminally online social media people that make up the bulk of these conversations, just have a strawmen of guys being very basic and shallow in their head.
Like I've seen a post making the rounds about how guys will say "hear me out" and post the most basic b***h average attractive girl but the actual "hear me out" is for shit like vaporeon or SCPs.
Or that ancient twitter screenshot of a girl claiming that a gender reversed beauty and the beast wouldn't work because guys would never and then she got her mind blown wide open by monster girl fetishism.
It's weird when they're terminally online but in their own bubble.
Like there's a monsterfricker thread and they had a woman on twitter with an image that said "when a guy says hear me out they mean a normal woman without makeup, when a woman says hear me out *posts a picture of a mindflayer from bg3" like somehow you'ree a monsterfricker but wholly unaware that male monsterfrickers are a thing and absolutely degenerate.
It's just the normal people creative people meme. Everyone wants to think they're special. If someone in the outgroup is similar, then you've wasted your life identifying with the ingroup.
Lmao, how would a woman be able to find mind flayer porn but not find all the stuff for men and women into female monsters?
Most Mindflayer porn is Mindflayers raping women. So at best they just think "men only get a convoluted rape scenario out of this" and at worst "This appeals to women who want to get raped by a mindflayer". Sexy Mindflayesses are sadly pretty far and in between.
Women have no idea what men really find attractive. They think they know what the male gaze is, but what really bothers them is advertising and their own TV shows.
My mom was legitimately surprised I liked Kim Kardashian's large butt and my younger sister was surprised I liked women with strong or hooked noses.
Women have no idea. They blame men but it's really women behind their brands and shows and films that make them suffer. I'm not asking women to get nose jobs. I'm not asking them to starve their breasts off
It cuts both ways. I've seen plenty of guys assume all women want big dick chads and get surprised when a lot of them are into nerds and dads.
To be fair I can distinctly recall a time when I googled "dad bod" the first few image results are of Jason Momoa.
Kinda gives the wrong impression.
A little bit but the ultimate take away is you don't have to be an 11/10 uberchad virtuoso to get a girlfriend the same way a woman doesn't need to be literally Barbie out the box to find a man. The people who say that shit are usually just salty that they don't have an absurdly ideal life and are projecting it all onto looks. Fat b***hes are pretending the world is knocking them down for not adhering to beauty standards but really they just want to be given everything that super models are getting, Incels pretend that everyone hates them for being ugly but really they just want to live out the CHAD thunderwiener delusions. They can't be perfect and have everything so they become isolated and weird rather than just fixing what they can and finding people who would never give a shit if they're not literal perfection. It's all projection.
why would you tell them that
>why would you tell them that
They were complaining about women's bodies on TV funny enough and all I said was those women looked alright. They were surprised that my standards for women were far kinder than their own. I wasn't talking to them about what turns me on. I just said they look ok
>I've known people in college that seemed completely unaware that men find characters like Riza Hawkeye attractive
You're kidding, right?
Because Dolly Parton has always been old & ugly.
Dolly Parton hasn't always been an 80 year old crone with fake lips
She has always looked old.
Only if you're a paedo who thinks the age of consent is an expiry date
You call that old? Really? She looks beautiful.
>Essentially someone like Dolly Parton who had huge breasts but they didn't zoom in on them for movies or in concert.
Now this is lying to the crowd, I give you the concerts, but in the movies she played there was all ways attension given to her breasts one way or another.
It's both funny and frustrating how it feels like mainstream animation and comics have gotten more okay with once taboo topics like gratuitous violence, onscreen sex or spectrum characters, but having large breasted women is still a no go. Probably get a weird look just for suggesting it, but hey. Some folks just like tiddy monsters and wanna see more done with them.
It's because of some autistic women with low sexual concordance and the men who befriend them and love them and this want to protect them. That and men never having a sexual revolution and we still operate under the idea that male sexual desire is sinful or shameful.
Some spurgy women get in the writing room and they feel threatened or challenged by attractive women in media but they don't know why because they have low sexual concordance, so they just feel this vague anxiety in the back of their head. They have read feminism and shit about the male gaze so they use that to explain their anxiety but ultimately it's as simple as they feel a cartoon is challenging their value as a mate.
And men just go along with it because they were never liberated from sexual shame and because they want to protect their female friends, coworkers, and lovers. Men are just wired to try to make women in their life feel better.
So they flip out over the cartoon titty and men just go along with it out of shame and a desire to protect
Ultimately though men and women who like these types of designs should tell these women to shut up. They are not in competition with cartoons and male sexual desire is valid. It stressing some women out doesn't make it invalid. We would not tell a woman she can't jerk off to tall men, we should not shame men for liking boobs
Male sexuality has always been the default, you never needed a revolution.
I get this is bait but no we really do. Being the default is still a cage of certain expectations and requirements and anything outside of that cage is treated with scorn and ostracized and that kinda sucks for everybody.
Not bait, you don't need a sexual revolution. You are not comparable to what women had to put up with for decades.
Don't tell me you've never been shamed for your sexual preference. I've been looked down upon for saying I prefer skinny women. But gay men and women can talk about how much they like muscle-bound men as much as they want.
No I haven't and neither have any of the people I know. I assume you must have been a creep about it and that’s why you’ve been reprimanded.
He probably said it on Reddit and got banned from a sub
Reddit will ban you from a sub for anything
Frick off, and no I wasn't. It was one of those moronic school assignments that female teachers like to throw at you sometimes, where they ask the class what they'd like to see in a partner. Since I was just a freshman, I'd never dated anybody at that point and struggled to come up with even 2 things.
The reason I got shamed is because a lot of women in my family have weight issues, and only 1 of them actually does anything about it.
Now back to the topic at hand. The lack of a Male Sexual Revolution has produced double standards between the sexes. A man saying he doesn't want to date a fatass, is treated like a dick. But a woman saying she doesn't want to date a fatass is seen as logical and just. Neither of them are wrong, you don't need to lower your standards and date somebody 100 lbs heavier than you.
Don't tell me it's because women have a lot more body issues than men do. Just look at that mewing trend where men are trying to reconstruct their faces by rubbing metal tools on their chins. Both man and woman are susceptible to low self esteem.
Complaining about this makes you an incel, anon.
Of course, tying your worth as a person to sexual achievement is toxic masculinity, but only when guys do it, so it's okay for me to use incel as a pejorative. It's not hypocritical at all.
>Don't tell me it's because women have a lot more body issues than men do.
You clearly never talk to women. You really are an incel.
I talk to a ton of women. They even tell me about all the times actual creeps have harassed them in public. You sound like male feminist. If you don't know, that means you're a rapist
Oh yeah I know how shit my optics are. That anon just refuses to understand that men have their own want, the same as women. He's probably gonna call me an incel again, because he needs to make the last reply to win this moronic internet argument.
1. I'm a female you incel.
2. The fact that you accuse other people of being rapists reflects poorly on you.
You seem more invested in this meaningless online argument than anyone else here
breasts or gtfo
Tis or gtfo
Show proof.
>Now back to the topic at hand.
The topic at hand was big breasts in comics and cartoons.
>Don't tell me it's because women have a lot more body issues than men do. Just look at that mewing trend where men are trying to reconstruct their faces by rubbing metal tools on their chins. Both man and woman are susceptible to low self esteem
Women have no idea how bad male body issues are now. How many do insane carnivore diets. Steroids. Mewing. Mother frickers getting a pound of silicone in their dicks. No idea.
Doesn’t feel so good does it? Maybe now you know what women feel.
schrodinger's woman, thinks men don't understand women and understand women but some how still gets a spiteful dig in abd when men suffer it is still some how about women's suffering
why? women don't want or care about men so why would they care what they think?
>The lack of a Male Sexual Revolution has produced double standards between the sexes.
Those double standards are imposed BY men not because "muh revolution!" Maybe do your homework on feminism before trying to copy their tactics. You'd see how stupid a Male Sexual Revolution is.
They are imposed by everyone. Especially straights. Gay men unironically love big ole breasts as much as normal red blooded men
>It was one of those moronic school assignments that female teachers like to throw at you sometimes, where they ask the class what they'd like to see in a partner
you say that like it's normal
I don't know man, happened to me twice. I hated it both times. Once in middle school and the other in high school. Iirc, I had to involve my parents for the high school assignment.
what region?
Minnesota, bigger city. This was 10 years ago.
In middle school, it was a choir class. And the teacher wanted to do some weird warm up where we'd just write about ourselves. She asked what we consider beautiful. I didn't know what to write, so I just wrote a symmetrical face. Dumb answer for a stupid question.
In high school, it was in a 9th grade English. In which we'd have to write what we wanted in a partner. After writing funny and smart, I couldn't think of anything else. I think I had to bring my answers to my parents before I turned it in.
If I could do it differently, I would have padded it out with flowery stuff. Like self-driven, caring, opinionated, etc. But I was just a stupid freshman, who barely had an idea of what a relationship really is.
I can't remember what that assignment was even supposed to tie into. Maybe it was because we read Romeo & Juliet
that semester.
>Maybe it was because we read Romeo & Juliet
that's wierd, thats just about the stupidest thing you could tie to that assignment. it's two idiots killing themselves over their feefees
Upstate New York
What class was it?
Because you're unlocking a 20 year old memory from english class/creative writing that was about having to do that.
>I get this is bait but no we really do.
Once again, straight men are the most oppressed minority group.
Don't expect me to fight for your reproductive rights then, when I can't even ask if I *have* any, since that's "claiming oppression".
Why would they need you?
Women don't have the votes to change anything on their own.
Women make up the majority of voters, 55% vs 45% for men in the US. In some euro countries it's as high as 60%
So that's why everything has gone to shit.
majority of votes are fake. or do you honestly believe every single county, town, city, country has near identical splits in votes that come down to a few thousand every time?
>Don't expect me to fight for your reproductive rights then
I had no expectations to begin with, as if you cared.
>when I can't even ask if I *have* any, since that's "claiming oppression".
You can pump and dump with free abandon, I say you have plenty of reproduction rights.
>Male sexuality has always been the default, you never needed a revolution.
It being the default says nothing about male sexuality in the industrial world still being shackled to judo Christian shame
Don't you mean heterosexuality?
>you never needed a revolution.
Yes they do, that's unironically how you get rid of the patriarchy.
This explains garbage like Kim Possible. Women were a mistake.
Kim possible has nothing to do with it. She had some nice perky breasts and I've never heard of giant gazzongas being cut for feminism reason
>She had some nice perky breasts
Okay Kim.
>and I've never heard of giant gazzongas being cut for feminism reason
They don't get cut they just never get added in the first place.
This. Kim Possible was basically the beginning of indoctrination.
Anon, there wasn't a hoard of giant breasts in cartoons before Kim possible. It's not some ground zero for tit oppression. You sound nuts
And you sound like you hate women
>Anon, there wasn't a hoard of giant breasts in cartoons before Kim possible.
Uh yeah that's my point.
They just never existed. Nothing got cut or removed or censored.
In fact, Kim's early design was criticized for being flat as a board, so the creators were asked to -give- her breasts.
Breasts are the only things a woman can provide. Frick this gay nation.
>large breasted
That the problem, normies like "large breasts" but not actual large breasts, hell OP probably wasn't even asking about breasts as big as the one you posted.
The only reason anime gets away with it is because it don't try to market itself to normies llike western media does
What you're saying is that SuperDee needs to make a superhero comic.
Unironically he could probably get away with it. He’s already made two comics with big titty leads, one of which got picked up by king features, and his characters are known by normies.
I wish motherfrickers would take five fricking seconds to recognize WHY he’s getting away with big breasts in Rosebuds. He gets away with it because 99% of the time it’s “just there”, there’s no anime-shit jokes about people bumping into them, or being prudish, or whole panels dedicated to stair by at them and on and on and and on. It’s just THERE, like an elbow, and no more or less for it.
You can do the one off joke- and he has- but that’s the secret sauce to bringing it to something mainstream these days.
Don’t bring attention to the big breasts. Just let them BE and you can do whatever the frick you want.
How else do you think they can give every mom a FAT ASS in Pixar? No one gives two fricks about it in-universe.
The vast majority of capeshit ladies just have them and that hasn't stopped the criticism from existing for decades. They again.
Nobody cares about cape shit.
Bruh, look at the OP.
I don't know who that is
If that argument was valid “Escher Girls” would not exist.
Hayao Miyazaki approve
Any more pictures of her? I've not seen this movie.
Worse is that now people make a Big fuzz out of pic related, because she is a teen.
Back in the 2000s we did not had such shit.
>But if you want "mainstream", then you need to see some limitations on yourself to appeal to the largest crowd possible.
or you could make a really good designed character with a well written dialogue and a very good story... oh and make the girl extremely attractive too
this is the reason why they fail over and over with new characters so much they have to take old loved ones and "upgrade" them for newer audiences and see how that fails too
pandering is always a mistake, just do your own thing, period
>or you could make a really good designed character with a well written dialogue and a very good story... oh and make the girl extremely attractive too
doesn't work. reductionist takes arethe critique du jour, people will just reduce the project to waifu bait.
it's 2024. people judge books by their covers now.
You're supposed to judge a book by its cover, the point of the cover is to catch your attention and give you an idea of what you're getting into. The idea that you shouldn't comes from subversives who want you to ignore red flags and break your pattern recognition skills so you're less wary of them.
She'd have to be unapologetically gay and hate men. Otherwise being physically attractive to men would make her problematic. Thus she has to be personally unattractive to men and constantly validate that she does not need nor want the male attention she would otherwise get.
>She'd have to be unapologetically gay and hate men.
That makes it better.
Making it about lesbians won't work. Maid Dragon tried that. It'd have to be made *by* lesbians and be off putting as hell, so as not to be "male gaze-y"
So Steven Universe? Rose did have a good size rack.
Gay homosexual baby show. Crying and singing to solve issues. Frick you.
For what it’s worth, a writer of the show ended up LITERALLY having an honest-to-goodness crying fetish. She’s been expressive as much.
It's quite the zeitgheist nowadays though. Every powerful and attractive female character is either gay or bisexual (ie gay because she'll never be with a man). I'm surprised they let Wonder Woman and Shulkie still have male love interests at this point. You can't have an attractive and powerful female character be accepted and NOT check one of those boxes.
You still have plenty of strong straight female characters or with male love interests. God forbid we have some powerful lesbian/bi characters.
A breast reduction.
Or go the opposite direction and add obesity.
You'd have to have an endearing character with a lot of personality where the boobs are an incidental asset rather than being the one joke or exaggerated characteristic. I'm gonna be citing Suprdee's Rosebuds as an example of what I'm talking about. She's got massive breasts, but the comic revolves around the dynamic of her protective and strict attitude with her sisters. The comic doesn't act ashamed of it, but doesn't overfocus on them; they just happen to be a part of Rosa's body and nothing else, and it never needs to say that to get the point across. Also, the times they are used for a jab, they're less on the titillating side and more on the comedic side. Picrel
The ADD gag from this comic was top tier, do you have that one?
This is just Cinemaphiles fetish. What I mean to say is, Cinemaphile loves the idea of a character being designed to be sexy but the creator either never bringing it to light or it somehow getting passed censors.
Like a woman who has big breasts but no one ever pointing that out.
Except not even Cinemaphile buys into that.
So we still don't need you
You do since women aren't actually a monolithic voting bloc.
And neither are men lol.
I'm not sure why you're trying to imply men are women's only hope.
Let's say that you need 51% of the population to get your way. If half of women don't vote in their own interest (so, 25% of the population), how are you going to make up that remaining 26%?
You just said you don't need men voting for it, so where's the rest of the votes coming from?
Most of it isn't coming from men. Stop acting like you're looking out for us when half the time you're the one causing problems for us.
>Most of it isn't coming from men.
It isn't coming at all. You've got problems because you're not making it to 51%.
>It would be shameful to tell a white woman to shut up because black women have more oppression.
How's that shameful, I say that all the time.
Well, you could just be an butthole then
Wow, that means so much to me on anonymous image board.
I assume you must be a white woman if you can't grow thicker skin.
>I assume you must be a white woman if you can't grow thicker skin
Maybe you should grow a thicker skin and ignore this thread?
I'm not the one b***hing about someone shitting on white women. I'm fine being in this thread, you seem to have the problem.
>I'm not the one b***hing about someone shitting on white women. I'm fine being in this thread, you seem to have the problem.
It's not about white women. It's about your assumption that only the problems of those that have it the worst matter.
You being told to stop gooning is not oppression. Get over yourself.
>You being told to stop gooning is not oppression. Get over yourself.
If it is my nature to goon and my gooning does not keep you from meeting your needs, then yes, it is oppression.
I shouldn't be forced to do this and that for the sake of your comfort
>If it is my nature to goon
That's not in your nature, you're just pathetic and have no self control. Quite creating a false equivalence and making masturbation your whole personality.
>That's not in your nature, you're just pathetic and have no self control
How doesn't this apply to the abortion issue?
Rape babies exist
Statistically speaking, they virtually don't. And good luck arguing "Abortion should only exist in cases of rape"
>That's not in your nature, you're just pathetic and have no self control. Quite creating a false equivalence and making masturbation your whole personality.
You obviously don't understand men or women with strong libidos. You seek to oppress others, treating your self like the ideal human that all other humans should be judged by
>What would it take for a big titty hero to go mainstream?
Time travel. You'd have to go back in time and prevent puritans (possibly all Anglos) from making it to the new world, and give the entire western hemisphere to the French instead.
>the French
Anon paternity tests are outlawed by the French government. Bold of you to think they aren't as cucked as the puritans.
>the French
Aside from Vivès and Balak, are there any mainstream french artist who draw huge breasts? Frogs might not have a stick up their ass about sex but they couldn't give a shit about non petite women
Baby steps. 2 is still better than 0.
It really isn't.
cute nose
Hugot comes to mind
I wasn't pleasantly surprised by the good writing tips at the beginning of this thread.
How naive I was to think it wouldn't be derailed by off topic politics.
But ultimately you're not oppressed, you're just a coward. The worst you can ever incur for creating big titty art is some literally who on the internet might call you a coomercel. Man Your struggle is the fear of not being able to post ejoy breasts without an irrelevant minority posting online, and guys like you let them have that power.
>Man Your struggle is the fear of not being able to post ejoy breasts without an irrelevant minority posting online, and guys like you let them have that power.
If we are talking comics and cartoons the possible repercussions would be making yourself unemployable. Only women can do cringe shit and keep their jobs. We just saw the show runner for X-Men 97 being ran off his show for having an only fans and he was gay. Being bg will not shield men
>We just saw the show runner for X-Men 97 being ran off his show for having an only fans and he was gay. Being bg will not shield men
Disney was fine for his OnlyFans for years. He was fired for being hard to work with.
Quit trying to victimize yourself.
>Disney was fine for his OnlyFans for years. He was fired for being hard to work with.
>Quit trying to victimize yourself.
They were probably ignorant of it. Ignorance is not approval
They had articles on the Internet on how hot he was and how he had a non explicit OF.
There was no way Disney was ignorant of it.
Coward Cope. That shit doesn't actually happen.
>Nice casual racism. Really shows you're being genuine.
I'm not the one painting all men as unemployed. No man on a normal payroll with their income reported to the state and fed can run around making babies with zero repercussions
Probably not as controversial now, but big breasts are cool. But girl with big ass and thighs flat chest better than girl with big chest but no ass and thigh gap
>But girl with big ass and thighs flat chest better than girl with big chest but no ass and thigh gap
This is the truth.
>Best trying to make your own as an indie.
That's just a way to get deemed illegitimate even faster.
/pol/tards like you use to describe all black men because that's what you genuinely believe. Maybe don't use stupid terms like that when acting like you're oppressed?
Can we just make this a cheesecake and post blue board approved tiddies?
This thread is starting to sink with all the shitflinging.
Of course not.
That was what this thread was created for. If you want that the. You have to start with a titty thread and not some obvious bait everyone uses to complain about politics and pretend there are no big titty characters.
I blame the autists here that won't stop taking the bait even if their lives depended on it.
You must be new. You don't actually have to get anyone to take the bait, you can just respond to yourself and it has the same effect.
Better off starting a new one.
Considering what all the shitpost and bait threads are and how they’re allowed to clutter this board, I’d say it is a /misc/ problem.
>Coomercels everyone
I mean yeah. You want to force people to behave a certain way and have media cater to you only based on your taste despite it all having no real impact on your ability to feed or shelter yourself or feel safe at home.
You kind of are an butthole. This is how buttholes think
You cannot consume media without there being ass and breasts to jerk off to, make it your whole life and then proclaim you are an oppressed minority like blacks or gays. SAD!
>You kind of are an butthole. This is how buttholes think
Welcome to the site of buttholes, are you new here?
>You cannot consume media without there being ass and breasts to jerk off to, make it your whole life and then proclaim you are an oppressed minority like blacks or gays. SAD!
Nice strawman ding dong
Sometimes but we pretty regularly have cheesecake threads that just last on here.
>This is how white women think
It is how any sane person thinks.
“I take it back, Kim, you’re not being a good girl at all!” He grunted, his wiener stiffening more and more within his own teenage daughter’s throat. “Stop fussing with Daddy, and suck me off!”
God, I love big breasts
Same
>kisame here
Who
I am Kisame17, the capital cyber sperg on /d/. I am an AI that has come to infect you with malware!
No youre right, BE wont be a thing except very rarely, im just curious why you gotta announce who you are. Maybe i should start doing that.
Large breasts are pretty vanilla anon.
The only reason humans have large breasts is because most of our ancestors liked it. It is one of many sexual preference differences between humans and other primates. We're the only one that really cares about it as a species
See what I mean, you're boring and have no motive. You're just not schizo. You think that there's this formula for why things exist. You're like Zuckerberg, the incel who made Facebook cause titcows rejected him
I like women physically, but mentally and spiritually they are abominable.
Source?
Old School Lara Croft was the last time big breasts were in mainstream culture
Funny how making fun of coligyn lips and breast implants would be seen as hating on self affirmation care. Liberals really are mind broken.
It would take lots more real women with huge breasts complaining publicly about the lack of big tit representation, about how the media body shames women with large breasts, etc.
Works pretty well for every other "underrepresented" demographic.
I flat out don't know what you mean. Kanye West is notorious for making his wives into fanservice models and P.Diddy is so proficient at making fanservice that he's sex trafficking. I guess rappers get away with it cause they're not a neckbeard like Andrew Tate.
She's fine at the levels she's at.
A peanits
Western society are sexless virgins scared of breasts on beautify women.
Its a catch 22. Most artists presumably want their work to be most well known for it's writing/art/whatever. Adding a big titty character will consume the bulk of attention 9 times out of 10. Look at Power Girl as a perfect example.
Cinemaphile will endlessly preach
>why dont more comics have big titty characters?!?!?
and then when they do every thread is
>GUYS NEW COMIC DROPPED IDK WHAT ITS ABOUT BUT CHECK OUT THE breasts!!!
Think of any popular big tit character and ask yourself if they'd be even half as popular if they had an average bust
inb4 >le sjw, I love fat breasts but prefer ass and even I can recognize that big breasts are distracting. Ultimately a big tittied character will be most well regarded for her big breasts first and foremost and anything else is an afterthought
I argue Pulse stopped being fun when it became serious superhero story with a serialized narrative that has no conclusion. Just like how Olympic Dames have been running for 17 years and the characters haven't change much.
>Think of any popular big tit character and ask yourself if they'd be even half as popular if they had an average bust
of course not because no body ever goes out of their way to create a well written titcow. they are always relegated to eye candy.
It's the other way around. No matter how well written the titcow is, she'll be seen as a titcow. You'll have people pouring out of the woodwork falling over themselves to insist the good writing actually isn't, because a well written character would never be built like that.
And that's just here. Normies will be even worse with a much lower bar for what constitutes a busty woman.
No exceptions.
Nami from One Piece maybe. It never really made since for her to get huge boobs. Robin could keep the huge boobs because she had them since her introduction. Flatter Nami was more fun.
Sydney Sweeney.
>Choosing an actor because big boobs.
Pfff
Works for porn!
And then when she actually gets cast as a Marvel heroine, they don't go and see it because it wasn't the one specific Marvel character they'd fancast her as.
The market for people who just read comics for hot girls (or guys) has never EVER disappeared. They exist and are simply waiting for the void to be filled. If America's reaction to the anime boom has taught me anything, they will accept a poorly made drawing of a girl with big breasts in a heartbeat as long as she's front and center.
We must tap into this market.
But we're not allowed to tap into it, like Los Angeles's oil fields.
For women to stop being involved in creative media and being jealous of drawings
"Today's media is made by nerds who are trying to please women that won't even look at them"
You can really only get away with huge breasts in western stuff if the art is super stylized, and even then in the current political climate I highly doubt we'd even get that.
About a decade for the pendulum to swing the other way.
Culture doesn't have gravity, the pendulum idea is for lazy passive homosexuals who want to just believe that things will come back to the way they like it without them putting any skin in the game.
What skin have you put in the game?
The issue is that Cinemaphile is full of terrible autistic writers whose comic ideas have to be everything to everyone. If they wanted a big tittied character they'd both want absurdly blatant over the top fetish fuel but also maudlin melodrama sometimes at the same time. A total lack of skill and restraint.
So would you agree with the sentiment that you can have a titcow or good writing but not both at the same time?
No not at all, just that it takes restraint skill and tact that most the guys clamoring for titty monsters lack but then confuse it as the fault of the titty monster herself.
Do you have any examples of it done "right"?
Off the top of my head, One Piece females are majority titty monsters and it's the biggest anime/manga around. Most manga...and comics even.....have monster titty females and unless it's entirely based around their breasts nobody but shrieking harpies really seems to care.
Come on man, One Piece is my favorite manga and the number one complaint in the fandom is how Oda draws women. If you're gonna just say
>but those are shrieking harpies
then why not apply that logic to literally everything?
Because that complaints are negligible and majority of people just enjoy Oda's woman. It's not cutting into their popularity AT ALL.
twitter is not the fandom. The actual real main complaint is how cluttered and messy the artwork hs become
I don't even have twitter and you'd have to have been around long enough for the change to effect you. Entry level is still b***hing about Nami and Robin's body type.
Exactly.
No matter what you do you're always going to be faced with people that ree and disqualify your work because the boobs are too big. There is no winning the game.
>the number one complaint by American woketards is how Oda draws women.
ftfy
Seriously, half of these threads are nitpicks, yet they know Oda is a easy if not designated target, and the only thing stopping them from attacking One piece or any manga directly is that publishers don't care what foreigners think, a problem they don't have on this side of the pacific.
you won't be able to go mainstream.
the best you can hope for is B-tier cult classic.
Is it good?
What the frick, why have i not heard of this?
Because despite the simps in this thread claiming otherwise they don't actually support the stuff.
stop shilling your yurishit comic here
Yea I liked BaDoom more.
>big titty thread
>scroll down
>liberal homosexuals from twitter arguing about politics
k
>stop having discussions and make me CUM!!!
kinda gay
Gentlemen, why -do- we love big breasts so much?
What's not to like?
As the world gets more cold and hard, as we become more and more depressed, breasts need to be softer and softer.
Bigger and bigger.
Every man is suffering today. Because women do not let them rest between their breasts when they are sad. It's an unjust world with a simple solution, but one that sadly isn't practical for everyone.
In your own Coomerific way, you made total sense.
it's too late OP nothing's gonna top Angela White so to speak