Looks more realistic but it also looks like a completely different person
you have to be a faceblind moron to not have quickly developed awareness of certain reptitive features that these shitty stable diffusion "realistic" models keep vomitting. still better than the stupid AIslop vending machines that siphon your money
This looks nothing like her though. No AI has even come close to Dalle yet in terms of likeness
Well then it defeats the point. We've been able to find pics of hot women forever, it's only AI that lets us generate photos of real people in erotic situations that they wouldn't usually do.
you have to be a faceblind moron to not have quickly developed awareness of certain reptitive features that these shitty stable diffusion "realistic" models keep vomitting. still better than the stupid AIslop vending machines that siphon your money
Is that enough? Does that really redeem all the shit they’ve put out of late and the badwill? Was Picard season 3 really good enough to earn watching the latest season of STD?
If they did a good movie and acknowledged the trash as trash, that'd be enough for me to entertain it. >New New Republic having a war or dealing with an insurgency or something >brief scene in military academy where Holdo is used as an example of a terrible commander
The bigger issue is dealing with the incoherent mess of a continuity they have now.
>will that really be enough to make up for how they’ve wronged me?!? >thinking of a corporate franchise as if it had emotions and motivations >putting your own emotions into consooomption of a brand >having a visceral reaction to all the imaginary reasons these corporations do things
If you’re gonna be in a parasocial relationship at least let it be with a streamer of e-prostitute. It would still be pathetic but slightly less so than being in one with a corporation and their intellectual property
ENOUGH with the Skywalkers. Go somewhere new and refreshing.
>ENOUGH with the Skywalkers.
We would have accepted this IF we'd gotten a proper sendoff. Disney has the rest of Eternity to do non-Skywalker material. Shut the frick up and let the fans have one final adventure you fricking narcissist.
Even if you came out and said everything we’ve made is no longer canon and then start over you will still be the same people who ruined it to begin with.
George Lucas
and I don't mean George Lucas working with Disney, I mean a reversal to where Lucas was in charge of Star Wars
It will never happen though
>Originally inspired by such works as Space Battleship Yamato, Captain Harlock, etc. >Because of it (SW), it goes on to inspire Gundam, Macross and countless others in Japan.
Is all of science fiction/fantasy just one big circle jerk?
George may have went too far in a few places but stuff like pic rel was definitely an improvement. Also the cloud city windows and showing the wampa in empire.
>Also the cloud city windows and showing the wampa in empire.
The Cloud City windows was a mistake because the sets were intentionally more claustrophobic as the Empire was closing in, per the Director. The Wampa is far scarier without the reveal of him sitting there eating the Tauntaun too, in a Jaws style of building suspense, less is more.
After hearing the claustrophobic sets comment from the director, I rewatched the theatrical cut again and it really is more effective as filmed.
No, you stupid frick, literally PER Irvin Kershner, the DIRECTOR who complained about what PRODUCER George Lucas had changed with his Special Editions. Why are you such a fricking moron about this? Go back to plebbit.
>the DIRECTOR who complained about what PRODUCER George Lucas had changed with his Special Editions
Source? Lucas was his boss. He had final say on everything. Only reason why Kershner even became the director is because Lucas had a meltdown trying to direct ANH. Getting the rights from FOX allowed him the freedom to take a more supervisory role. Even so, he still played backseat director anyway. He basically directed the director to direct the movie.
Based. I'll never besmirch the guy for giving in to his imagination.
Changes I liked >STAR WARS to STAR WARS Episode IV: A New Hope >Dewbacks and Ronto >Mos Eisley background additions (Like the Outrider taking off) >Han running into an entire legion of stormtroopers instead of just a squad or two >actual X-Wings taking off from Yavin 4 instead of little sparkles flying up across the landscape >Luke reuniting with Biggs >trench run >better shots of Wampas >Cloud City shots
The only unforgivable changes were in Return of the Jedi. That movie just got butchered. And the biggest "crimes" Lucas committed in the SE was replacing Lapti Nek and the ending celebration. The new music completely ruins the flow of their respective scene transitions. Not even mad about Hayden replacing Sebastian. Makes sense to me. >Jabba's torture chamber into Lapti Nek >Gonk droid's scream is same pitch as and overlapped with Sy Snootles's yell >slave girls are obviously dancing to Lapti Nek and not of Jedi Rocks >original scene is just better composed all around
Vs
The only good things about the SE is Jedi Rocks fricking slaps and Femi Taylor coming back as Oola and not aging a day since the 80s AND George making Oola's bare titty more noticeable.
Yub Nub Vs Victory Celebration
Vs
>Yub Nub is more intimate and cathartic, focus is on our heroes, finally victorious after struggling and suffering so much. >Yub Nub flows into End Credits infinitely better than Victory Celebration
The originals didn't age well, especially ANH. Gen Xers like you don't get it and are used to them because you saw them as kids. But later generations don't have the same attachment and therefore, do not care.
>Gen Xers like you don't get it and are used to them
No, YOU don't get it, because you're used to a bunch of CGI garbage. What you like is literally what is killing cinema.
>the three original, unaltered movies
…don't exist any more. The negs were re-cut back in the 90s to make the special editions. You can't make prints from the original negs because they're gone.
I was invested in the story for a long time, I read a lot of the books as a kid, spent hours on Technical Commentaries, etc. It wasn't just a set of movies but a whole fleshed out setting. Once you blow something like that up, you can't really go back, even if they start releasing good movies (fat chance) it's not the same as multiple decades of fandom. It was the easiest layup in entertainment history and they found a way to frick it up.
>It was the easiest layup in entertainment history and they found a way to frick it up.
I wonder if Disney Star Wars will end up being a Case Study in Business and Film Schools.
Absolutely. Things that go badly are much better teaching tools than things that go well. I still teach HP's colossal frickup that was theor acquisition of Compaq even though my students are too young to even know Compaq as a brand.
Dunno if you're around the same age as me but the multimedia events were actual EVENTS too.
90s had Shadows of the Empire
90s-00s had Dark Forces / Jedi Knight
00s-10s had The Clone Wars
What has Disney done? Bet everything on Sequel era shit no one likes and waste billions upon billions of dollars?
Incredible... there is a vulva obscured beneath that mitten, and behind it lies an entire vegana and womb... There's nipples, areolas, and mammary glands concealed behind the other mitten too... amazing...
Honestly, lay off the Jedi/Sith shit for a while. Explore the other parts of a massive galaxy that hardly ever get proper screentime. Anthologies of a TIE/X-Wing pilot, shady small time smugglers going through the criminal underbelly by the skin of their teeth, hell go do some shit with the Old Republic. None of that will ever happen, but thats what would do it for me personally.
>lay off the Jedi/Sith shit for a while >shady small time smugglers going through the criminal underbelly by the skin of their teeth
This is what Solo was. The only force user in it was Darth Maul and that was a tiny cameo.
They're somehow worse than ours anon. Or do ya just have a fetish for way too mich fake tan?
I'm taking your passport off ya.
Date a south american immigrant instead
>> t. Dating a Chilean with huge breasts and a grand arse. Shit's cash
Announce a trilogy based on the actual Thrawn Trilogy and cast an actual hot redhead (not a black woman) as Mara Jade. Then you'd have me slightly interested again.
If they did a good movie and acknowledged the trash as trash, that'd be enough for me to entertain it. >New New Republic having a war or dealing with an insurgency or something >brief scene in military academy where Holdo is used as an example of a terrible commander
The bigger issue is dealing with the incoherent mess of a continuity they have now.
homosexuals like this will never, ever stop coming back to suck mouse wiener.
I stopped watching after The Last Jedi. I have never watched a single minute of the TV shows and never intend to.
If Disney discarded all that, released a good movie (I would need word of mouth to believe it) then I'd be open to seeing it.
If you didn't drop it after tfa you never cared about star wars.
Disney isn't fricking selling it and Disney also isn't doing what I said they should do, it's why it's a hypothetical demonstrating how much Disney has fricked up. Breathe and think about what we wrote before having a sperg out.
Anyone who understands any circumstances wants to give disney any money and particularly in support of any iteration of disney wars, deserves the rope.
>Anyone who understands any circumstances wants to give disney any money and particularly in support of any iteration of disney wars, deserves the rope.
I said I would be mildly interested if they didn't do something moronic for once and cast an actual redhead as Mara Jade. In no reality would that happen, it'd be a black woman. So I'm not waiting with bated breath to give them money as you claim.
Disney isn't fricking selling it and Disney also isn't doing what I said they should do, it's why it's a hypothetical demonstrating how much Disney has fricked up. Breathe and think about what we wrote before having a sperg out.
>Mara Jade
Seriously. Shows how stupid Disney was that they didn't revive MJ and make her canon once Lucas was out of the picture. She's already a popular character and is a legit badass without having to cheat to me her one. Fricking idiot Disney instead gave us grumpy old monk Luke.
Disney presents: Mara Jade, 2024 edition. Careful what you wish for. Any character or story you like not getting used in a modern adaptation is a blessing.
Yeah that's why >'d only go see it with a legit hot (thin and stacked - the actress needs to be passable as a dancer given MJ's backstory) redhead with green eyes. If Disney doesn't want to do the Thrawn trilogy, put some of Mara's Hand tales in a movie. Her novels were decent, and her comics were pretty good. That eliminates the need for screenwriters to frick up her story/character. Failing a MJ movie, I'd like an Assaj Ventress movie too, provided they don't cast a fat Latina of course.
>ST takes place years after Mara's, Ben's and the Solo kids' deaths >Chewie's death is retconned
Now Luke has a reason to be a sullen hermit and Han and Leia are estranged.
>Announce a trilogy based on the actual Thrawn Trilogy
Those books are completely overrated. EU guys like yourself praise them to high heavens when they're plainly mediocre. Better books have been released since. Plus, the story could've been done in just one book rather than drag it out for three whole novels for no reason.
Shatterpoint and the RotS novel were and I'd even agree that they might be better than the Thrawn trilogy but I'd hardly call most of them better than the Thrawn trilogy.
Labyrinth of Evil is up there, yeah. I'll even say Dark Lord of the Sith is maybe about on par with the Thrawn trilogy. Shadow Hunter, meh.
>but I'd hardly call most of them better than the Thrawn trilogy.
Because you're attached to it from either nostalgia or buying into the hype. It's not that great. In fact, Zahn has written better stuff as he's improved since.
It's still pretty great and something tells me you can't even say why it's bad in the same way you couldn't even list EU novels that were better than it.
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>It's still pretty great
Explain why it's great other than the very nerdy "historical importance" nonsense. >something tells me you can't even say why it's bad in the same way you couldn't even list EU novels that were better than it.
I listed some already. I already said that the story didn't need to be three whole novels, and could've easily been done in just one. Very overindulgent and pretentious on Zahn's part. The writing itself isn't that great. Pretty basic, but also bland and boring. Luke also sucks in it. Very lame to read.
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>Explain why it's great other than the very nerdy "historical importance" nonsense.
Good, fleshed out villains in Thrawn and Joruus C'baoth. Mara Jade is a great character and her integration with the OT was well done. It represented all sides of the Star Wars universe, from the rough and tumble Talon Karrde to the military actions of Wedge and Bel Iblis to the mystical side of things with Luke and C'baoth. It also showed why our main heroes were heroic and everyone acted intelligently. Leia knew turning the Noghri against Thrawn was important and it complimented her diplomatic skills, Luke knew turning Mara to the light was important and did so, and Han knew turning the smugglers against the Empire and destroying the clones was important, so every subplot that was built up came together in a way that creates a satisfying ending. Once again, can you respond to any of these specifics or are you just going to keep being vague?
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>to the mystical side of things with Luke and C'baoth
Luke was a total pushover there. How does that work Post-RotJ?
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How? He immediately caught on that Joruus was insane and pivoted to trying to help him, which ultimately failed. Are you saying this is NOT in line with RotJ?
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Personally, I'm just not into the OT cast like that. Have more attachment to the world established by the prequels. To me, Luke just doesn't vibe with me. He's a pretty lame character to follow. Not at all layered or flawed like his dad. He's especially weird as frick in RotJ. Would've preferred him to act more like Qui-Gon than what we actually got.
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It's okay to have shit taste, you could have just said that outright.
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I ain't old, dude. I didn't grow up with the OT, and I don't have any nostalgia for it. I've watched plenty of non-SW stuff that came after that did the formula better. Those who didn't grow up then aren't going to get the same enjoyment out of those movies as someone who did. They're just old movies that were rendered obsolete by many films released after.
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I didn't grow up with them either, I still like them. How homosexualy do you have to be to like only part of Star Wars that was written entirely to set up the OT?
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It's called not being a fricking nerd. I like what I like. Just because I like Star Wars doesn't mean I have to like all of it. That'd be zealotry, and I don't subscribe to that shit.
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So you don't like the Thrawn trilogy because you hyperfixate on one era because you grew up with it and ignore everything else. You should have just said that at the start.
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Nah, I've read some OT stuff and watched the movies. There were good bits I liked but ultimately, it's just not my cup of tea.
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So just say that instead of jumping in to say the beloved books are overrated when in fact the are properly rated. They kicked off the 90s Star Wars boom that led to TPM hype and Zahn himself named Coruscant.
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>They kicked off the 90s Star Wars boom that led to TPM hype and Zahn himself named Coruscant.
Dude, I already said I don't care about the "historical importance" of it. It's always down to personal enjoyment for me. I don't give a frick about what other people like, but about what I like. Simple as.
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You don't need to care about the historical importance of it. It did all that because it was good. The Jedi Prince series sure as frick kicked off nothing.
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>It did all that because it was good
Alright but again, I don't care. Why is this so difficult to understand? Personal enjoyment is what matters the most to me, not whatever nerds like.
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So why the frick did you absolutely just feel the need to pipe in about EU nerds overrating it then you moron? You don't have to like something to realize other people like it because to them it's extremely good. A Thrawn movie trilogy would in no way prevent prequel shit from being made.
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Hating on the prequels is the most basic b***h nerd take there is. It's also a big sign of hardcore fanboy-ism or zealotry as I'd call it.
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>So why the frick did you absolutely just feel the need to pipe in about EU nerds overrating it then you moron?
Because I have the freedom to give my own opinion on things. Simple as. And to me, Thrawn Trilogy's overrated.
>but I'd hardly call most of them better than the Thrawn trilogy.
Because you're attached to it from either nostalgia or buying into the hype. It's not that great. In fact, Zahn has written better stuff as he's improved since.
>drop the latest story bullshit >either start with a complete remake starting from the end of 6 or just pretend anything after 6 didn't happen and make standalone movies or a completely new trilogy >take the parts people loved from the original or even from some of the newer stuff and learn from that >i.e. people liked the THEME of the first few episodes of the Mandalorian, a guy just traveling around space doing cool shit, not random homosexualry nothing >explore something about the bad guys, like make a story about a group of Scout Troopers who crash land on an alien planet and can't leave for whatever reason and turn it into a semi Horror, like Pitch Black meets Lost Planet (the game), then have the main character be the only one survives and turn him into some super bad ass recurring villain who is insanely competent or just an anti hero of sorts who leaves the empire after they abandoned him but he's still not a good guy, don't have him join the rebel gays, just have him travel around doing cool shit like that Star Wars anime of the Samurai Jedi guy
nothing less than total denouncement of the sequels. reminder you can totally just 9/11 anything in space. it would only take one individual to take down the death star.
They “fixed” that by retconning it as being a super rare event that has almost no chance of working because obviously people would be doing it all the time otherwise
This also makes her loo even stupider and more selfish because she basically did a kamikaze move that apparently she knew almost certainly wouldn’t do anything
I do not accept that "fix" as it only changes it from 1 person to more people. the rebels just didn't have anyone fanatical enough to suicide the death star.
>What would it take to bring you back to Star Wars?
Watching Iger, Kennedy, Johnson, and Abrams publicly hanged by the neck until dead in front of Cinderella's castle.
>Movie Starts >Elite Empire Soldier and Rebel Alien are both trying to kill each other in a pilot dog fight >the fight lasts several minutes before both end up fighting on a Dead Planet before both crash land in the same general area >Both get out and try to shoot each other >their equipment is damaged too much so they pull out Knives and fight each other >several tense seconds go by and they haven't gotten anywhere >both are beaten and bloodied and bruised but neither backs away >roar breaks the standstill >they then learn the planet is completely uninhabitated >vicious and terrifying aliens monster like feral beasts roam all over it >the two reluctantly team up and slowly become best friends Basically the beginning of that Kong movie with the WW2 Pilot and the Japanese Pilot. Wait - was it a Kong Movie? I can't remember. That would have been so much better a movie than we got.
Haven't seen it. Sounds kino though. This scene is what I was referencing.
The movie should have been this. Two dudes who become best friends who were originally enemies who can't understand each other. Instead, the Kong movie we got was dog shit.
Box set of: >Star Wars May 1977 premiere cut >Star Wars 1977 August wide release cut >Star Wars 1977 HBO cut >Star Wars 1977 TV cut >Star Wars 1977 ANH cut >The Empire Strikes Back 1980 >The Empire Strikes Back 1980 70mm cut >Return of the Jedi 1983 premiere/1985 cut >Return of the Jedi 1983 final cut
Deliver all of these in an attractively packaged design that looks like a large moisture vaperator for the modest yet fair price of $75 dollerinees and we'll talk.
Nothing. It was always a product of the 70's/80's. Prequels and Sequels were like remaking the Godfather. Some things are just a product of their time. That's why nu Simpsons feels so freakish now esp when they use smartphones or something current.
I have seen and known various parts of them (sure, I know, this sounds like a contradiction of my earlier message, but as you understand it's impossible not to know anything about SW). It doesn't seem interesting to me and it has aesthetic that seems corny in an unappealing way. And I'm 33 years old, not 18.
Also, re > the originals were sublime, it really depends on where you're from / where you are. Star Wars are only really big in the US. Especially the originals (4-6). It's not just a series of movies, but it's a part of American cultural landscape by now. But it's not like this worldwide. It's a bit like how Americans are sometimes surprised that people from elsewhere don't know or don't care about the Charles Manson gang / murders / that whole surrounding thing. Also, notice that the original trilogy are 80s movies. The world wasn't as synced marketing-wise back then, and many places only really "learned about" Star Wars in any meaningful sense only when the prequels started coming out. So while Americans have a soft spot for the originals and a lukewarm opinion of the prequels, a lot of the rest of the world either fully disagrees or just simply doesn't put specifically the originals on a pedestal.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/ww_top_lifetime_gross/ - all-time ranking of worldwide gross of movies
See entries like Avatar, Titanic, Fast & Furious? They have a low Domestic Percentage and a high Foreign Percentage. These are all movies that have a wide worldwide appeal. Now compare it with Star Wars which are 45+ % Domestic. Yes Star Wars are high grossers overall, but that's because the US audience is crazy for them - meanwhile, foreign audiences are eh. Same with Top Gun 2022 which is a very yankee yeehaw jingoistic movie, which obviously did well in America but meh overseas.
Another fun takeaway from these percentage numbers is that movies that do well worldwide typically have comparatively little of the "hot topic" issues of modern American pop culture. You can say that they are considerably less woke. Sure Avatar is environmentalistic yada yada, but that's a fairly universally resonating theme.
star wars gays don't understand that the movies look like shit, not because of the quality of effects which were good at the time but the dogshit style, and are clearly for children. my dad and all the actual boomers i've heard mention it who were around for the release of the originals thought the same. i will never understand the obsession with this shit when it's basically the original fun for the whole family capeshit slop. can only assume that they got into it as kids with the insane level of marketing and merchandise locking them in for life
>Admit they completely fricked up the sequels, decanonize them, and publicly crucify Rian Johnson >Bring back George Lucas, and give him full creative control. >Each movie must be planned years in advance, and George must have final say on what does and doesn't happen
The Force Awakens I thought at least had a promising start, but The Last Jedi fricked up the series so bad I don't think even decanonizing them will save the franchise
Force Awakens, despite being lazy Episode IV ripoff, HAD fricking potential
Finn for instance, is the biggest waste of a character I have ever seen
The idea of a random Stormtrooper suddenly breaking out of conditioning and defecting is really interesting, and it would have been even more interesting if he had been Force Sensitive
If you ask me, he should have been the actual main character and Jedi, it was the most perfect self insert set they could have dreamt of
Instead they went nowhere with, and turn his character into a fricking joke, no wonder Boyega eventually chimped out against Disney, I would have been mad as well
The same thing goes for Kylo Ren, the idea of a Dark Side user struggling to stay in the dark, is great idea, and again, they went nowhere with it and turned the character into a joke
Why even have the Stormtroopers be indoctrinated since children to begin with. Finn being a coward who doesn't give a shit about the FO makes more sense if he's just some random conscript and it would have given the bit where he learns to stand up and defend something a little bit more weight.
But that's the thing, if Finn had been Force Sensitive, they would have been able to explain him breaking out of conditioning easily
Yoda/Obi Wan appeared to him in a dream or some shit, literally the Force is one of the easiest plot device to work with, you can make anything work with it as long as you have 2 working brain cells
Hell they should have make the movie solely about him, for the first half of the movie he is just a Stormtrooper going from battle to battle, and gradually notices weird things until he "awakens" the force inside him
>The Force Awakens I thought at least had a promising start
I never understood people who said that or gave trilogy a chance after seeing this garbage movie, then again I'm not moronic.
>The Last Jedi fricked up the series so bad I don't think even decanonizing them will save the franchise
Amen 100%.
Force Awakens, despite being lazy Episode IV ripoff, HAD fricking potential
Finn for instance, is the biggest waste of a character I have ever seen
The idea of a random Stormtrooper suddenly breaking out of conditioning and defecting is really interesting, and it would have been even more interesting if he had been Force Sensitive
If you ask me, he should have been the actual main character and Jedi, it was the most perfect self insert set they could have dreamt of
Instead they went nowhere with, and turn his character into a fricking joke, no wonder Boyega eventually chimped out against Disney, I would have been mad as well
The same thing goes for Kylo Ren, the idea of a Dark Side user struggling to stay in the dark, is great idea, and again, they went nowhere with it and turned the character into a joke
>Force Awakens, despite being lazy Episode IV ripoff, HAD fricking potential
I agree. It was still a huge "frick you" for sidelining Luke, but yes, Finn WAS interesting in concept, and turned into an absolute joke in TLJ. The only saving grace was it was revealed that John Boyega is a huge anti-White racist so frick him and his "career".
>Kathleen Kennedy removed >Disney issuing an apology for calling fans -isms >Disney announcing a total reboot of the franchise, only the 1–6 movies are canon >someone capable announced to lead Lucasfilm, not the furgay cowboy >furgay cowboy demoted to basic b***hboy
none of these are ever happening so basically I'm done with SW forever
There’s no way to fix it that doesn’t involve some sort of time travel asspull bullshit that completely negates everything after Jedi (which they’ll never do).
Hell, now that I think of it, they can’t just make it good by erasing everything after Jedi, because there’s crap like Kenobi and Solo shitting up the good era too, and retroactively making the OT/PT even worse. It’s just fricked. Even if they tried to do some sort of reboot, I don’t trust anyone to do it right.
Best case scenario is Elon Musk buys it, declares everything post-Disney non-canon, mothballs the whole thing, and just licenses it out for t-shirts, action figures, and theme park rides.
We have AI now that are hundreds of magnitudes more powerful than Dalle-3, and yet they are gimped so hard that we can't make more Rey prompts like this
Yeah it sucks. There was a temporary period where the prompt-blocks were light enough that they could be overcome with ease and a frickton of great pics came out of that. Now the technology has advanced far beyond then and you'd expect that the average person could now be able to do more than ever before but it's actually gone backwards.
There are ways around it and alternatives but the learning curve is steeper, it can be expensive, and the results are often don't look so good as an unrestricted Dall-E would. I can usually spot most SD images from a mile away.
>We have AI now that are hundreds of magnitudes more powerful than Dalle-3, and yet they are gimped so hard that we can't make more Rey prompts like this
It's a shame this technology came out during such a stupid time period where everyone is offended by everything.
Imagine if this AI existed in the 90s
You have to go a couple of decades without creating any new Star Wars slop.
Let the horrible memory of Disney's Star Wars fade away.
Then reboot the entire series
It would have to take several really good films that ease me back in. Unlike other anons apparently, I wouldn’t want (immediate) denunciations of Johnson or Abrams since that would remind me of their nauseating products in the first place - “you gotta see Episode X, they dunk on TLJ so hard” would keep me away from it. Star Wars used to be a very warm, pleasant thing for me; I read the novels and played the games a LOT. TFA began an enshittification of it all, done in triplicate by Filoni, which made me just start checking out well before TLJ, I didn’t even realize I was out of love with it until people were talking about Mando S2 and I realized I hadn’t even followed to know it had come out. I’d have to be wooed back comparably slowly, steadily, over time, if it’s even still possible at all
Honestly it makes me feel kind of like I’m talking about an old beaten up stuffed animal or something, in that I’m warm to the old memories, but also very clear it’s in the I Will Never Touch That Again Because Come On category
It's beyond redemption. Disney has gutted it and even if they sold the IP no one would care about anything new they would do with it. The cabal under Kathleen Kennedy is entirely responsible for this desecration and deserves every ounce of scorn.
At this point Disney would need to just own up and wipe the sequel trilogy. Commit to hiring people that actually gave a shit about star wars throughout their life to work on the next project. Get away from the skywalker period (unless maybe they do Yuuzhan Vong war). Probably best to just go to old republic era though. Hire some writers that are above 5th grade level too.
>What would it take to bring you back to Star Wars?
Disney selling the IP, and the new owner stating "everything outside of the original trilogy is now fake and gay fanfiction."
A retelling of the 30 years war via the Empire (Protestants) and the Republic (Habsburgs)
Call it the imperial cult a group dedicated to restoring and improving the empire.
Republic holds the power recently won through conquest and diplomacy and they aren’t willing to share power with the empire.
>part of rey training is for her to cede control and let the universe (read: his wiener) run across her body and use the force to make contact with the universe
hot
>What would it take to bring you back to Star Wars?
Literally give me back Star Wars when it was cool.
There was never another point in the franchise when Star Wars was firing on full cylinders on all fronts as it was during that period of time shortly after Attack of the Clones all the way up to like 2007, when there were a seemingly endless amount of games and comics and different types of stories to look forward to and it all served to make the Star Wars universe bigger and cool.
Then it all shit the bed when LF started cancelling things people were looking forward to and not offering anything worthwhile to replace them. People are STILL talking about what could've been with things like KotOR 3 and Battlefront 3 to this day.
It's been so wild to watch this whole thing slowly go down in flames for no actual reason since the end of Revenge of the Sith.
Kathleen Kennedy and anyone who supported the creation of the sequel trilogy gets fired and her replacement publicly announces that all old EU content is canon, and content made leading to the release of episode 7 and released after is non-canon.
Then, they start making animated shows and movies about the Legends content. They can't do live action Luke era stuff, with Harrison not giving a shit about SW and Carrie being dead, and they can't do live action clone content because Temura is too old, but if anyone can pull off good quality animation, it's Disney.
I'm not the one watching children's cartoons, dude.
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>children's cartoons
Who said anything about children's cartoons?
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All cartoons are for children, that's why they are cartoons.
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Anonymous
How boomerish of you.
2 weeks ago
Troubled soul
Cartoon:
1.a simple drawing showing the features of its subjects in a humorously exaggerated way, especially a satirical one in a newspaper or magazine.
2.a motion picture using animation techniques to photograph a sequence of drawings rather than real people or objects.
3.a full-size drawing made by an artist as a preliminary design for a painting or other work of art.
Originally cartoons were meant for adults. Adults would go to the movies to see them cartoons. But with time cartoons became a child thing I guess. But originally adults were the ones consuming it.
I guess Walt Disney is the one responsible for cartoons becoming a child thing. His influence cannot be denied.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Good post. And pretty obvious in hindsight. Look at what WB was producing during Disney's golden age. Chock full of mean spirited jokes, slapstick, cultural references and innuendo. Disney was wholesome and family friendly fable adaptations while Looney Tunes was entirely original, off the wall and free to do whatever they thought was funny. Bugs in drag seducing Elmer? No problem. Peter Lorre looks weird and creepy, can we relentlessly lampoon him? Go for it.
A public statement from Bob Iger and the Disney board declaring the sequels as non-canon as well as announcing the termination of Kathleen Kennedy's employment
I'm just tired of all the Jedi hate. Every single new piece of star wars media can't help but shit all over the Jedi. It's long since been established that they have their issues, but I'm so exhausted of seeing "DUDE, DID YOU KNOW THE JEDI ARE ACTUALLY LE HECKING DOGMATIC AND REPRESSIVE?!" paraded around as if it's a genius original take. It's not, it's literally Luke Skywalker's own beliefs. We've been running around in circles since ROTJ in 1983, unable to move forward and just accept the Jedi as the good guys because every writer has to shit out what they think is a based contrarian hot take. "Jedi+Compassion" is already a thing guys, can we do something else now?
Star Wars was never really good. The original trilogy was a hit because they showed off special effects that no one had seen before. The movies were visually stunning.
The prequels flopped and everyone hated them. No one gave a shit about Star Wars until Disney bought the rights to Star Wars. All this love for Star Wars is completely astroturfed by advertising companies.
Without the advertising money there is just nothing there. There is zero reason whatsoever to give a single frick about Star Wars. There is nothing there. You could just watch any random sci-fi movie or tv show.
Zoomer history revisionism. Prequels were universally hated and made a big cultural icon franchise completely dead until Disney bought the rights to it.
Without Disney buying the rights and convincing everyone that they always loved Star Wars, it would just be this dead forgotten franchise only brought up to talk about the rise and fall of Star Wars.
>Prequels were universally hated and made a big cultural icon franchise completely dead until Disney bought the rights to it.
You are absolutely insane if you think that.
>star wars was a dead brand before the mouse
You couldn’t be more wrong. SW video games, legos, books, etc were all in extremely high demand. It was one of the most valuable IPs in the world even at that time. Either your memory or your perception is waaaaay off
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Prequel hate was seriously overblown and Ep 3 won back quite a bit of good will. People don't seem to remember that.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Regardless of your stance on the prequels, you can’t deny ROTS has one of the best soundtracks in the series.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ROTS has one of the best soundtracks of all time
FTFY
The prequels were hated by Gen-X and Boomer fricks who expected Jake Lloyd to be the best child actor ever and bullied him relentlessly after the movie came out. Millennials loved those films, partly because the prequels had the best world building of all the SW movies.
>Hispanic Kyle Katarn
Incidentally similar only thanks to Rogue One be E1M1 of Dark Forces. >Dark Troopers in another show
Dark Troopers were in quite a few EU stories outside Katarn's stories. They had Phase 0's in the og Battlefronts too.
An alternative arc where the protagonist is a republican soldier who then becomes and imperial officer that shows how the entire Republic was rotten from within and basically how Palpatine did nothing wrong
>DALL-E
hah, pathetic!
Giv midriff
>ai slop
At least the AI slop looks a little bit like her
this is obviously based on a much hotter woman
good stuff
Here's the thing, y'all gay
*epic guitar solo*
>DAZ slop
Looks more realistic but it also looks like a completely different person
Well then it defeats the point. We've been able to find pics of hot women forever, it's only AI that lets us generate photos of real people in erotic situations that they wouldn't usually do.
you have to be a faceblind moron to not have quickly developed awareness of certain reptitive features that these shitty stable diffusion "realistic" models keep vomitting. still better than the stupid AIslop vending machines that siphon your money
This looks nothing like her though. No AI has even come close to Dalle yet in terms of likeness
Ulala. Me like it.
what you posted. make it happen
A good movie.
Is that enough? Does that really redeem all the shit they’ve put out of late and the badwill? Was Picard season 3 really good enough to earn watching the latest season of STD?
If they did a good movie and acknowledged the trash as trash, that'd be enough for me to entertain it.
>New New Republic having a war or dealing with an insurgency or something
>brief scene in military academy where Holdo is used as an example of a terrible commander
The bigger issue is dealing with the incoherent mess of a continuity they have now.
It's called ignoring the sequels and picking up from after RotJ.
>Was Picard season 3 really good enough
>Picard good
are you moronic anon-kun?
>will that really be enough to make up for how they’ve wronged me?!?
>thinking of a corporate franchise as if it had emotions and motivations
>putting your own emotions into consooomption of a brand
>having a visceral reaction to all the imaginary reasons these corporations do things
If you’re gonna be in a parasocial relationship at least let it be with a streamer of e-prostitute. It would still be pathetic but slightly less so than being in one with a corporation and their intellectual property
Revive Carrie Fisher and Han Solo, have them alongside Luke go on one last adventure to find new young Jedi, and make a new trilogy based on that
ENOUGH with the Skywalkers. Go somewhere new and refreshing.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
This. Since it can't happen, I'm done.
>ENOUGH with the Skywalkers.
We would have accepted this IF we'd gotten a proper sendoff. Disney has the rest of Eternity to do non-Skywalker material. Shut the frick up and let the fans have one final adventure you fricking narcissist.
This.
No. Until the debt is paid there can be no peace.
Or just recast.
The only time I’d want a Hollywood reboot. Lando too.
>Lando too.
I love Lando. He's part of the family.
For sure, Lando's welcome
You can’t. It’s dead beyond repair.
Even if you came out and said everything we’ve made is no longer canon and then start over you will still be the same people who ruined it to begin with.
This. It's smoldering ash now. I can't even watch the originals anymore, I hate all of it.
Sad but true, it's a dead franchise.
>you will still be the same people who ruined it to begin with.
Disney owns it now, Not George Lucas
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
If the movie looked good and I was bored on a Sunday while doing laundry. Or maybe on a plane. Places where you’re just chilling and killing time
For it to be blatantly anti-communist.
more diversity, more gays, browns and tranners
Wipe the sequels from existence and let someone else do them
George Lucas
and I don't mean George Lucas working with Disney, I mean a reversal to where Lucas was in charge of Star Wars
It will never happen though
Give it to Japan and see what they do with it.
Worked for bartman
I rather like this idea. Excellent choice of pic rel, too.
It's remarkable that TIE Fighter alone is better than anything Disney Star Wars has produced in it's entire ownership period.
Clown
you're proving him right, Visions is absolutely kino. Japan should have the full control of the licence
3, maybe 4 were okay. The rest were awful philosophical tripe.
And then they fricked it up with S2.
You frickers just want to frick Lop.
>posts american guy's YouTube video
>Originally inspired by such works as Space Battleship Yamato, Captain Harlock, etc.
>Because of it (SW), it goes on to inspire Gundam, Macross and countless others in Japan.
Is all of science fiction/fantasy just one big circle jerk?
>Is all of science fiction/fantasy just one big circle jerk?
All of fiction is.
Point of origin? Gilgamesh? Atra-Hasis?
darth revan movie
Re-release the original movies in a theater.
The originals.
Not the remastered versions where George added in a bunch of messy CGI to "fix" stuff that wasn't broken.
Not the prequels.
If they want my popcorn money they have to re-release the three original, unaltered movies.
George may have went too far in a few places but stuff like pic rel was definitely an improvement. Also the cloud city windows and showing the wampa in empire.
>but stuff like pic rel was definitely an improvement.
Are you on crack?
The wolfman was there due to lack of budget. They were reusing shit from other productions to get by.
I like the wolfman
>Also the cloud city windows and showing the wampa in empire.
The Cloud City windows was a mistake because the sets were intentionally more claustrophobic as the Empire was closing in, per the Director. The Wampa is far scarier without the reveal of him sitting there eating the Tauntaun too, in a Jaws style of building suspense, less is more.
After hearing the claustrophobic sets comment from the director, I rewatched the theatrical cut again and it really is more effective as filmed.
>per the Director
You mean per Lucas, as he was still the one calling the shots.
No, you stupid frick, literally PER Irvin Kershner, the DIRECTOR who complained about what PRODUCER George Lucas had changed with his Special Editions. Why are you such a fricking moron about this? Go back to plebbit.
>the DIRECTOR who complained about what PRODUCER George Lucas had changed with his Special Editions
Source? Lucas was his boss. He had final say on everything. Only reason why Kershner even became the director is because Lucas had a meltdown trying to direct ANH. Getting the rights from FOX allowed him the freedom to take a more supervisory role. Even so, he still played backseat director anyway. He basically directed the director to direct the movie.
Based. I'll never besmirch the guy for giving in to his imagination.
Changes I liked
>STAR WARS to STAR WARS Episode IV: A New Hope
>Dewbacks and Ronto
>Mos Eisley background additions (Like the Outrider taking off)
>Han running into an entire legion of stormtroopers instead of just a squad or two
>actual X-Wings taking off from Yavin 4 instead of little sparkles flying up across the landscape
>Luke reuniting with Biggs
>trench run
>better shots of Wampas
>Cloud City shots
The only unforgivable changes were in Return of the Jedi. That movie just got butchered. And the biggest "crimes" Lucas committed in the SE was replacing Lapti Nek and the ending celebration. The new music completely ruins the flow of their respective scene transitions. Not even mad about Hayden replacing Sebastian. Makes sense to me.
>Jabba's torture chamber into Lapti Nek
>Gonk droid's scream is same pitch as and overlapped with Sy Snootles's yell
>slave girls are obviously dancing to Lapti Nek and not of Jedi Rocks
>original scene is just better composed all around
Vs
The only good things about the SE is Jedi Rocks fricking slaps and Femi Taylor coming back as Oola and not aging a day since the 80s AND George making Oola's bare titty more noticeable.
Yub Nub Vs Victory Celebration
Vs
>Yub Nub is more intimate and cathartic, focus is on our heroes, finally victorious after struggling and suffering so much.
>Yub Nub flows into End Credits infinitely better than Victory Celebration
4k77 4k80 and 4k83 are available
>The originals
Lil bro wants to watch a 720p movie on a modern sound system because he doesn't know anything about how movies work
Not them, but the originals are all in 4K, as in natively because they were 35mm and 70mm films.
Making this post only indicates you know nothing about how film works lol
The originals didn't age well, especially ANH. Gen Xers like you don't get it and are used to them because you saw them as kids. But later generations don't have the same attachment and therefore, do not care.
>Gen Xers like you don't get it and are used to them
No, YOU don't get it, because you're used to a bunch of CGI garbage. What you like is literally what is killing cinema.
CGI is a tool used to do certain shit that wouldn't be possible with practical effects. Getting pissy over it is childish. Grow up.
>the three original, unaltered movies
…don't exist any more. The negs were re-cut back in the 90s to make the special editions. You can't make prints from the original negs because they're gone.
It's dead.
There's no coming back.
There is already a comic series based off of this concept
I was invested in the story for a long time, I read a lot of the books as a kid, spent hours on Technical Commentaries, etc. It wasn't just a set of movies but a whole fleshed out setting. Once you blow something like that up, you can't really go back, even if they start releasing good movies (fat chance) it's not the same as multiple decades of fandom. It was the easiest layup in entertainment history and they found a way to frick it up.
>It was the easiest layup in entertainment history and they found a way to frick it up.
I wonder if Disney Star Wars will end up being a Case Study in Business and Film Schools.
Absolutely. Things that go badly are much better teaching tools than things that go well. I still teach HP's colossal frickup that was theor acquisition of Compaq even though my students are too young to even know Compaq as a brand.
well they don't release the financials of the franchise so unless they do then it won't happen.
Dunno if you're around the same age as me but the multimedia events were actual EVENTS too.
90s had Shadows of the Empire
90s-00s had Dark Forces / Jedi Knight
00s-10s had The Clone Wars
What has Disney done? Bet everything on Sequel era shit no one likes and waste billions upon billions of dollars?
whats up with her hand holding the glass and the saucer?
Nothing. I’ve let go of all that shit and nothing will bring me back. Let that corpse rot.
Jyn returns as a nudist in Rogue Two: No One's Ever Really Gone
source?
Incredible... there is a vulva obscured beneath that mitten, and behind it lies an entire vegana and womb... There's nipples, areolas, and mammary glands concealed behind the other mitten too... amazing...
really makes you think
Honestly, lay off the Jedi/Sith shit for a while. Explore the other parts of a massive galaxy that hardly ever get proper screentime. Anthologies of a TIE/X-Wing pilot, shady small time smugglers going through the criminal underbelly by the skin of their teeth, hell go do some shit with the Old Republic. None of that will ever happen, but thats what would do it for me personally.
Damn…
>hell go do some shit with the Old Republic
Old Republic's in the prequels, dude.
>lay off the Jedi/Sith shit for a while
>shady small time smugglers going through the criminal underbelly by the skin of their teeth
This is what Solo was. The only force user in it was Darth Maul and that was a tiny cameo.
Or as Luke's wienersleeve.
Obese 30 year-old men will see this physique and think, yup if I cut off my balls I'll look just like her.
maybe if she gained 300lb
Why are British women so attractive?
No not fat ones. Fat people everywhere are disgusting. Why are slim bong women so attractive?
Blew my fricking mind when I watched Poirot and realized there's a ton of smoking hot actresses in bongland.
They're somehow worse than ours anon. Or do ya just have a fetish for way too mich fake tan?
I'm taking your passport off ya.
Date a south american immigrant instead
>> t. Dating a Chilean with huge breasts and a grand arse. Shit's cash
There's no women here in Ireland as hot as the likes of peak Keira Knightley
I appreciate your delusion Ireland anon but if you think our women are attractive then I dread to think what yours are like.
Its not delusion for me. I just really find bong women hot.
>nudist anon is here
Announce a trilogy based on the actual Thrawn Trilogy and cast an actual hot redhead (not a black woman) as Mara Jade. Then you'd have me slightly interested again.
homosexuals like this will never, ever stop coming back to suck mouse wiener.
I stopped watching after The Last Jedi. I have never watched a single minute of the TV shows and never intend to.
If Disney discarded all that, released a good movie (I would need word of mouth to believe it) then I'd be open to seeing it.
If you didn't drop it after tfa you never cared about star wars.
Anyone who understands any circumstances wants to give disney any money and particularly in support of any iteration of disney wars, deserves the rope.
NTA but I gave TLJ a try since TFA was lame but not unwatchable. TLJ and especially RoS are completely unwatchable.
>Anyone who understands any circumstances wants to give disney any money and particularly in support of any iteration of disney wars, deserves the rope.
I said I would be mildly interested if they didn't do something moronic for once and cast an actual redhead as Mara Jade. In no reality would that happen, it'd be a black woman. So I'm not waiting with bated breath to give them money as you claim.
It fits the pattern. Just cause Black person and ginger are anagrams doesn't mean they're interchangeable.
If you even watched TFA you never cared about star wars you stupid homosexual.
i unironically never even watched prequels
Disney isn't fricking selling it and Disney also isn't doing what I said they should do, it's why it's a hypothetical demonstrating how much Disney has fricked up. Breathe and think about what we wrote before having a sperg out.
>Mara Jade
Seriously. Shows how stupid Disney was that they didn't revive MJ and make her canon once Lucas was out of the picture. She's already a popular character and is a legit badass without having to cheat to me her one. Fricking idiot Disney instead gave us grumpy old monk Luke.
Disney presents: Mara Jade, 2024 edition. Careful what you wish for. Any character or story you like not getting used in a modern adaptation is a blessing.
Yeah that's why >'d only go see it with a legit hot (thin and stacked - the actress needs to be passable as a dancer given MJ's backstory) redhead with green eyes. If Disney doesn't want to do the Thrawn trilogy, put some of Mara's Hand tales in a movie. Her novels were decent, and her comics were pretty good. That eliminates the need for screenwriters to frick up her story/character. Failing a MJ movie, I'd like an Assaj Ventress movie too, provided they don't cast a fat Latina of course.
They should cast Bryce Dallas Howard for Mara Jade. She's already on board and has the perfect physique for the character.
43, looks 63
Mara Jade was only in her mid 20s in the Thrawn trilogy bruh. Bryce Dallas Howard is pretty hot but she's in her 40s.
>perfect physique
>is a giant fat pig
>ST takes place years after Mara's, Ben's and the Solo kids' deaths
>Chewie's death is retconned
Now Luke has a reason to be a sullen hermit and Han and Leia are estranged.
>Announce a trilogy based on the actual Thrawn Trilogy
Those books are completely overrated. EU guys like yourself praise them to high heavens when they're plainly mediocre. Better books have been released since. Plus, the story could've been done in just one book rather than drag it out for three whole novels for no reason.
>Better books have been released since
Like...? Something tells me from the way you said "EU guys" that it's Disney trash.
The books released when the prequels were coming out were usually pretty good.
Shatterpoint and the RotS novel were and I'd even agree that they might be better than the Thrawn trilogy but I'd hardly call most of them better than the Thrawn trilogy.
What about Labyrinth of Evil and Shadow Hunter?
Labyrinth of Evil is up there, yeah. I'll even say Dark Lord of the Sith is maybe about on par with the Thrawn trilogy. Shadow Hunter, meh.
It's still pretty great and something tells me you can't even say why it's bad in the same way you couldn't even list EU novels that were better than it.
>It's still pretty great
Explain why it's great other than the very nerdy "historical importance" nonsense.
>something tells me you can't even say why it's bad in the same way you couldn't even list EU novels that were better than it.
I listed some already. I already said that the story didn't need to be three whole novels, and could've easily been done in just one. Very overindulgent and pretentious on Zahn's part. The writing itself isn't that great. Pretty basic, but also bland and boring. Luke also sucks in it. Very lame to read.
>Explain why it's great other than the very nerdy "historical importance" nonsense.
Good, fleshed out villains in Thrawn and Joruus C'baoth. Mara Jade is a great character and her integration with the OT was well done. It represented all sides of the Star Wars universe, from the rough and tumble Talon Karrde to the military actions of Wedge and Bel Iblis to the mystical side of things with Luke and C'baoth. It also showed why our main heroes were heroic and everyone acted intelligently. Leia knew turning the Noghri against Thrawn was important and it complimented her diplomatic skills, Luke knew turning Mara to the light was important and did so, and Han knew turning the smugglers against the Empire and destroying the clones was important, so every subplot that was built up came together in a way that creates a satisfying ending. Once again, can you respond to any of these specifics or are you just going to keep being vague?
>to the mystical side of things with Luke and C'baoth
Luke was a total pushover there. How does that work Post-RotJ?
How? He immediately caught on that Joruus was insane and pivoted to trying to help him, which ultimately failed. Are you saying this is NOT in line with RotJ?
Personally, I'm just not into the OT cast like that. Have more attachment to the world established by the prequels. To me, Luke just doesn't vibe with me. He's a pretty lame character to follow. Not at all layered or flawed like his dad. He's especially weird as frick in RotJ. Would've preferred him to act more like Qui-Gon than what we actually got.
It's okay to have shit taste, you could have just said that outright.
I ain't old, dude. I didn't grow up with the OT, and I don't have any nostalgia for it. I've watched plenty of non-SW stuff that came after that did the formula better. Those who didn't grow up then aren't going to get the same enjoyment out of those movies as someone who did. They're just old movies that were rendered obsolete by many films released after.
I didn't grow up with them either, I still like them. How homosexualy do you have to be to like only part of Star Wars that was written entirely to set up the OT?
It's called not being a fricking nerd. I like what I like. Just because I like Star Wars doesn't mean I have to like all of it. That'd be zealotry, and I don't subscribe to that shit.
So you don't like the Thrawn trilogy because you hyperfixate on one era because you grew up with it and ignore everything else. You should have just said that at the start.
Nah, I've read some OT stuff and watched the movies. There were good bits I liked but ultimately, it's just not my cup of tea.
So just say that instead of jumping in to say the beloved books are overrated when in fact the are properly rated. They kicked off the 90s Star Wars boom that led to TPM hype and Zahn himself named Coruscant.
>They kicked off the 90s Star Wars boom that led to TPM hype and Zahn himself named Coruscant.
Dude, I already said I don't care about the "historical importance" of it. It's always down to personal enjoyment for me. I don't give a frick about what other people like, but about what I like. Simple as.
You don't need to care about the historical importance of it. It did all that because it was good. The Jedi Prince series sure as frick kicked off nothing.
>It did all that because it was good
Alright but again, I don't care. Why is this so difficult to understand? Personal enjoyment is what matters the most to me, not whatever nerds like.
So why the frick did you absolutely just feel the need to pipe in about EU nerds overrating it then you moron? You don't have to like something to realize other people like it because to them it's extremely good. A Thrawn movie trilogy would in no way prevent prequel shit from being made.
Hating on the prequels is the most basic b***h nerd take there is. It's also a big sign of hardcore fanboy-ism or zealotry as I'd call it.
>So why the frick did you absolutely just feel the need to pipe in about EU nerds overrating it then you moron?
Because I have the freedom to give my own opinion on things. Simple as. And to me, Thrawn Trilogy's overrated.
>but I'd hardly call most of them better than the Thrawn trilogy.
Because you're attached to it from either nostalgia or buying into the hype. It's not that great. In fact, Zahn has written better stuff as he's improved since.
I just don't care anymore.
Shit like season 1 Mando and Andor. That's about it
Nothing. The setting is just boring and too inconsistent to be interesting. Everything after the prequels feels like fan-fiction.
LETS DO A STAR WARS DODECOLOGY!
>drop the latest story bullshit
>either start with a complete remake starting from the end of 6 or just pretend anything after 6 didn't happen and make standalone movies or a completely new trilogy
>take the parts people loved from the original or even from some of the newer stuff and learn from that
>i.e. people liked the THEME of the first few episodes of the Mandalorian, a guy just traveling around space doing cool shit, not random homosexualry nothing
>explore something about the bad guys, like make a story about a group of Scout Troopers who crash land on an alien planet and can't leave for whatever reason and turn it into a semi Horror, like Pitch Black meets Lost Planet (the game), then have the main character be the only one survives and turn him into some super bad ass recurring villain who is insanely competent or just an anti hero of sorts who leaves the empire after they abandoned him but he's still not a good guy, don't have him join the rebel gays, just have him travel around doing cool shit like that Star Wars anime of the Samurai Jedi guy
Also, put rules on characters in the stories. If you make a new character people like, DO NOT HAND THEM OVER TO SOMEONE ELSE.
Everyone hates this shit. No one wants to see you humiliate and kill another character.
A General Grievous show covering his time as a warlord fighting israelite bugs to him fricking Jedi up on Geonosis. Recanonize his backstory.
>lovecraftian face
hahahahahaha
nothing less than total denouncement of the sequels. reminder you can totally just 9/11 anything in space. it would only take one individual to take down the death star.
They “fixed” that by retconning it as being a super rare event that has almost no chance of working because obviously people would be doing it all the time otherwise
This also makes her loo even stupider and more selfish because she basically did a kamikaze move that apparently she knew almost certainly wouldn’t do anything
I do not accept that "fix" as it only changes it from 1 person to more people. the rebels just didn't have anyone fanatical enough to suicide the death star.
the sequels must burn.
>What would it take to bring you back to Star Wars?
Watching Iger, Kennedy, Johnson, and Abrams publicly hanged by the neck until dead in front of Cinderella's castle.
1 good movie and 1 really good game on the level of Kotor or Jedi Knight series would be a start
never gonna happen
Straight white male protagonist that doesn't look homosexual.
>Straight white male protagonist that doesn't look homosexual.
Anon, this is Star Wars.
Nothing. It's over. Let it die.
Knights of the Old Republic film
Haven't we lost enough?
No I also want a Thrawn trilogy
>Movie Starts
>Elite Empire Soldier and Rebel Alien are both trying to kill each other in a pilot dog fight
>the fight lasts several minutes before both end up fighting on a Dead Planet before both crash land in the same general area
>Both get out and try to shoot each other
>their equipment is damaged too much so they pull out Knives and fight each other
>several tense seconds go by and they haven't gotten anywhere
>both are beaten and bloodied and bruised but neither backs away
>roar breaks the standstill
>they then learn the planet is completely uninhabitated
>vicious and terrifying aliens monster like feral beasts roam all over it
>the two reluctantly team up and slowly become best friends
Basically the beginning of that Kong movie with the WW2 Pilot and the Japanese Pilot. Wait - was it a Kong Movie? I can't remember. That would have been so much better a movie than we got.
You're describing almost precisely Rebels season 2 episode 17
Haven't seen it. Sounds kino though. This scene is what I was referencing.
The movie should have been this. Two dudes who become best friends who were originally enemies who can't understand each other. Instead, the Kong movie we got was dog shit.
The Kong movie was great. Vietnam era US soldiers getting fricked by a bunch of weird wildlife
>Haven't seen it. Sounds kino though
It's a children's show.
deleting the sequels and making something else instead
Brain damage.
Disney wouldn’t touch a Star Wars movie that would get my interest back in the franchise. It’s over
Box set of:
>Star Wars May 1977 premiere cut
>Star Wars 1977 August wide release cut
>Star Wars 1977 HBO cut
>Star Wars 1977 TV cut
>Star Wars 1977 ANH cut
>The Empire Strikes Back 1980
>The Empire Strikes Back 1980 70mm cut
>Return of the Jedi 1983 premiere/1985 cut
>Return of the Jedi 1983 final cut
Deliver all of these in an attractively packaged design that looks like a large moisture vaperator for the modest yet fair price of $75 dollerinees and we'll talk.
So geeky.
BEAUTIFUL photo, thanks for sharing!
Nothing. It was always a product of the 70's/80's. Prequels and Sequels were like remaking the Godfather. Some things are just a product of their time. That's why nu Simpsons feels so freakish now esp when they use smartphones or something current.
To bring me BACK?
b***h I have never watched a single movie or TV show in this universe.
Sucks for you because the originals were sublime.
I have seen and known various parts of them (sure, I know, this sounds like a contradiction of my earlier message, but as you understand it's impossible not to know anything about SW). It doesn't seem interesting to me and it has aesthetic that seems corny in an unappealing way. And I'm 33 years old, not 18.
Also, re > the originals were sublime, it really depends on where you're from / where you are. Star Wars are only really big in the US. Especially the originals (4-6). It's not just a series of movies, but it's a part of American cultural landscape by now. But it's not like this worldwide. It's a bit like how Americans are sometimes surprised that people from elsewhere don't know or don't care about the Charles Manson gang / murders / that whole surrounding thing. Also, notice that the original trilogy are 80s movies. The world wasn't as synced marketing-wise back then, and many places only really "learned about" Star Wars in any meaningful sense only when the prequels started coming out. So while Americans have a soft spot for the originals and a lukewarm opinion of the prequels, a lot of the rest of the world either fully disagrees or just simply doesn't put specifically the originals on a pedestal.
>Star Wars are only really big in the US. Especially the originals (4-6)
That used to be untrue.
There is a fairly simple litmus test.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/ww_top_lifetime_gross/ - all-time ranking of worldwide gross of movies
See entries like Avatar, Titanic, Fast & Furious? They have a low Domestic Percentage and a high Foreign Percentage. These are all movies that have a wide worldwide appeal. Now compare it with Star Wars which are 45+ % Domestic. Yes Star Wars are high grossers overall, but that's because the US audience is crazy for them - meanwhile, foreign audiences are eh. Same with Top Gun 2022 which is a very yankee yeehaw jingoistic movie, which obviously did well in America but meh overseas.
Another fun takeaway from these percentage numbers is that movies that do well worldwide typically have comparatively little of the "hot topic" issues of modern American pop culture. You can say that they are considerably less woke. Sure Avatar is environmentalistic yada yada, but that's a fairly universally resonating theme.
If they made competent star wars movies foreign audiences would flock to see them.
Are you from a shithole third world country? The OT was massively successful in Europe, Australia and Japan.
what scifi fantasy movies did your smelly country make in the 80s
star wars gays don't understand that the movies look like shit, not because of the quality of effects which were good at the time but the dogshit style, and are clearly for children. my dad and all the actual boomers i've heard mention it who were around for the release of the originals thought the same. i will never understand the obsession with this shit when it's basically the original fun for the whole family capeshit slop. can only assume that they got into it as kids with the insane level of marketing and merchandise locking them in for life
Nothing short of total reboot, the current direction is moronic and ridiculously childish
An uninterrupted string of at least 3 good movies would probably do it. But I don't see that happen.
>Admit they completely fricked up the sequels, decanonize them, and publicly crucify Rian Johnson
>Bring back George Lucas, and give him full creative control.
>Each movie must be planned years in advance, and George must have final say on what does and doesn't happen
The Force Awakens I thought at least had a promising start, but The Last Jedi fricked up the series so bad I don't think even decanonizing them will save the franchise
Force Awakens, despite being lazy Episode IV ripoff, HAD fricking potential
Finn for instance, is the biggest waste of a character I have ever seen
The idea of a random Stormtrooper suddenly breaking out of conditioning and defecting is really interesting, and it would have been even more interesting if he had been Force Sensitive
If you ask me, he should have been the actual main character and Jedi, it was the most perfect self insert set they could have dreamt of
Instead they went nowhere with, and turn his character into a fricking joke, no wonder Boyega eventually chimped out against Disney, I would have been mad as well
The same thing goes for Kylo Ren, the idea of a Dark Side user struggling to stay in the dark, is great idea, and again, they went nowhere with it and turned the character into a joke
Why even have the Stormtroopers be indoctrinated since children to begin with. Finn being a coward who doesn't give a shit about the FO makes more sense if he's just some random conscript and it would have given the bit where he learns to stand up and defend something a little bit more weight.
But that's the thing, if Finn had been Force Sensitive, they would have been able to explain him breaking out of conditioning easily
Yoda/Obi Wan appeared to him in a dream or some shit, literally the Force is one of the easiest plot device to work with, you can make anything work with it as long as you have 2 working brain cells
Hell they should have make the movie solely about him, for the first half of the movie he is just a Stormtrooper going from battle to battle, and gradually notices weird things until he "awakens" the force inside him
>The Force Awakens I thought at least had a promising start
I never understood people who said that or gave trilogy a chance after seeing this garbage movie, then again I'm not moronic.
Kylo Ren had potential, Finn had potential
And they squandered it all
The sequels aren't enough. You have to decannonize the prequels too and send George Lucas to a retirement home.
Get over it, nerd.
>The Last Jedi fricked up the series so bad I don't think even decanonizing them will save the franchise
Amen 100%.
>Force Awakens, despite being lazy Episode IV ripoff, HAD fricking potential
I agree. It was still a huge "frick you" for sidelining Luke, but yes, Finn WAS interesting in concept, and turned into an absolute joke in TLJ. The only saving grace was it was revealed that John Boyega is a huge anti-White racist so frick him and his "career".
A loving romance story between a Chiss female and a human male.
Gassing every israelite at Disney
literally this
based id watch this on repeat for days while I practice with my saber
>Kathleen Kennedy removed
>Disney issuing an apology for calling fans -isms
>Disney announcing a total reboot of the franchise, only the 1–6 movies are canon
>someone capable announced to lead Lucasfilm, not the furgay cowboy
>furgay cowboy demoted to basic b***hboy
none of these are ever happening so basically I'm done with SW forever
Imagine if Grandpappy Sheev raised her and she was a bratty sith girl
and also he cloned her so she'd have a twin sister to play with
KYS
No thank you
Yes, thank you. I do and I will continue to do so
love yourself
you deserve it
There’s no way to fix it that doesn’t involve some sort of time travel asspull bullshit that completely negates everything after Jedi (which they’ll never do).
Hell, now that I think of it, they can’t just make it good by erasing everything after Jedi, because there’s crap like Kenobi and Solo shitting up the good era too, and retroactively making the OT/PT even worse. It’s just fricked. Even if they tried to do some sort of reboot, I don’t trust anyone to do it right.
Best case scenario is Elon Musk buys it, declares everything post-Disney non-canon, mothballs the whole thing, and just licenses it out for t-shirts, action figures, and theme park rides.
Funny picture, but Mark Hamill is also kind of a homosexual
A time machine to undo 10-15 yrs of trash. Not gonna happen.
>I brappassed the cumpressor!
I for one welcome our new AI overlords
We have AI now that are hundreds of magnitudes more powerful than Dalle-3, and yet they are gimped so hard that we can't make more Rey prompts like this
Yeah it sucks. There was a temporary period where the prompt-blocks were light enough that they could be overcome with ease and a frickton of great pics came out of that. Now the technology has advanced far beyond then and you'd expect that the average person could now be able to do more than ever before but it's actually gone backwards.
There are ways around it and alternatives but the learning curve is steeper, it can be expensive, and the results are often don't look so good as an unrestricted Dall-E would. I can usually spot most SD images from a mile away.
>We have AI now that are hundreds of magnitudes more powerful than Dalle-3, and yet they are gimped so hard that we can't make more Rey prompts like this
It's a shame this technology came out during such a stupid time period where everyone is offended by everything.
Imagine if this AI existed in the 90s
working well for me
That's a depressing realisation
You have to go a couple of decades without creating any new Star Wars slop.
Let the horrible memory of Disney's Star Wars fade away.
Then reboot the entire series
GOOD MORNING SIR
It would have to take several really good films that ease me back in. Unlike other anons apparently, I wouldn’t want (immediate) denunciations of Johnson or Abrams since that would remind me of their nauseating products in the first place - “you gotta see Episode X, they dunk on TLJ so hard” would keep me away from it. Star Wars used to be a very warm, pleasant thing for me; I read the novels and played the games a LOT. TFA began an enshittification of it all, done in triplicate by Filoni, which made me just start checking out well before TLJ, I didn’t even realize I was out of love with it until people were talking about Mando S2 and I realized I hadn’t even followed to know it had come out. I’d have to be wooed back comparably slowly, steadily, over time, if it’s even still possible at all
Honestly it makes me feel kind of like I’m talking about an old beaten up stuffed animal or something, in that I’m warm to the old memories, but also very clear it’s in the I Will Never Touch That Again Because Come On category
hmm
Disney selling it back to Lucas and declaring all their Star Wars media non-canon
>might
Get me to reconsider.
It's beyond redemption. Disney has gutted it and even if they sold the IP no one would care about anything new they would do with it. The cabal under Kathleen Kennedy is entirely responsible for this desecration and deserves every ounce of scorn.
At this point Disney would need to just own up and wipe the sequel trilogy. Commit to hiring people that actually gave a shit about star wars throughout their life to work on the next project. Get away from the skywalker period (unless maybe they do Yuuzhan Vong war). Probably best to just go to old republic era though. Hire some writers that are above 5th grade level too.
I never left it
I will now watch your Disney+ Star Wars sequels.
>What would it take to bring you back to Star Wars?
Disney selling the IP, and the new owner stating "everything outside of the original trilogy is now fake and gay fanfiction."
A retelling of the 30 years war via the Empire (Protestants) and the Republic (Habsburgs)
Call it the imperial cult a group dedicated to restoring and improving the empire.
Republic holds the power recently won through conquest and diplomacy and they aren’t willing to share power with the empire.
>part of rey training is for her to cede control and let the universe (read: his wiener) run across her body and use the force to make contact with the universe
hot
1000 years timeskip, with new factions, tech, ships, planets and characters
or KOTOR adaption
or porn parody with daisy ridley
I've noticed a lot of men online seem to want Daisy Ridley to Dom them. Dunno why as she seems too slim and petite to do that sort of thing.
Nothing, when you mention Søy Wars to girls you get no pussy, when I talk about movies I like I get laid.
Terminator 2 and Aliens are better than the OT.
T2 yes, Aliens no.
>Aliens no.
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Complete amnesia.
nothing, my adult development wasn't stunted
disney paying me $100 for each film I watch
>What would it take to bring you back to Star Wars?
Literally give me back Star Wars when it was cool.
There was never another point in the franchise when Star Wars was firing on full cylinders on all fronts as it was during that period of time shortly after Attack of the Clones all the way up to like 2007, when there were a seemingly endless amount of games and comics and different types of stories to look forward to and it all served to make the Star Wars universe bigger and cool.
Then it all shit the bed when LF started cancelling things people were looking forward to and not offering anything worthwhile to replace them. People are STILL talking about what could've been with things like KotOR 3 and Battlefront 3 to this day.
It's been so wild to watch this whole thing slowly go down in flames for no actual reason since the end of Revenge of the Sith.
Kathleen Kennedy and anyone who supported the creation of the sequel trilogy gets fired and her replacement publicly announces that all old EU content is canon, and content made leading to the release of episode 7 and released after is non-canon.
Then, they start making animated shows and movies about the Legends content. They can't do live action Luke era stuff, with Harrison not giving a shit about SW and Carrie being dead, and they can't do live action clone content because Temura is too old, but if anyone can pull off good quality animation, it's Disney.
forgot to add, writing of the Sword of the Jedi books resumes so we can have some good writing again.
So you want more cartoons? Grow up, dude.
imagine telling on yourself like this
Cartoons are for children, dude.
>watch people play dress up and play with puppets instead
homosexual ass moron. Animation is the most based form of motion pictures.
Congratulations, you're autistic.
And you're an immature moron if you really think that way.
I'm not the one watching children's cartoons, dude.
>children's cartoons
Who said anything about children's cartoons?
All cartoons are for children, that's why they are cartoons.
How boomerish of you.
Cartoon:
1.a simple drawing showing the features of its subjects in a humorously exaggerated way, especially a satirical one in a newspaper or magazine.
2.a motion picture using animation techniques to photograph a sequence of drawings rather than real people or objects.
3.a full-size drawing made by an artist as a preliminary design for a painting or other work of art.
Originally cartoons were meant for adults. Adults would go to the movies to see them cartoons. But with time cartoons became a child thing I guess. But originally adults were the ones consuming it.
I guess Walt Disney is the one responsible for cartoons becoming a child thing. His influence cannot be denied.
Good post. And pretty obvious in hindsight. Look at what WB was producing during Disney's golden age. Chock full of mean spirited jokes, slapstick, cultural references and innuendo. Disney was wholesome and family friendly fable adaptations while Looney Tunes was entirely original, off the wall and free to do whatever they thought was funny. Bugs in drag seducing Elmer? No problem. Peter Lorre looks weird and creepy, can we relentlessly lampoon him? Go for it.
>They can't do live action Luke era stuff
Yes they can. Recast.
WHAT THE FRICK
>posts aislop
not you
Kathleen Kennedy publicly executed slowly would be a start
This site is full of coomers so a fair amount of them probably make shitty "art" of their fetish and feel threatened by AI.
>Rey who?
>Rey Dist!
Star Wars X: New Dist Order
A public statement from Bob Iger and the Disney board declaring the sequels as non-canon as well as announcing the termination of Kathleen Kennedy's employment
*Kathleen Kennedy's life
ftfy
I'm just tired of all the Jedi hate. Every single new piece of star wars media can't help but shit all over the Jedi. It's long since been established that they have their issues, but I'm so exhausted of seeing "DUDE, DID YOU KNOW THE JEDI ARE ACTUALLY LE HECKING DOGMATIC AND REPRESSIVE?!" paraded around as if it's a genius original take. It's not, it's literally Luke Skywalker's own beliefs. We've been running around in circles since ROTJ in 1983, unable to move forward and just accept the Jedi as the good guys because every writer has to shit out what they think is a based contrarian hot take. "Jedi+Compassion" is already a thing guys, can we do something else now?
>leave Star Wars to us you CHUDS
I left the SW after TLJ.
Why aren't they all Kylo Ren?
Because Vader's the shit.
Star Wars was never really good. The original trilogy was a hit because they showed off special effects that no one had seen before. The movies were visually stunning.
The prequels flopped and everyone hated them. No one gave a shit about Star Wars until Disney bought the rights to Star Wars. All this love for Star Wars is completely astroturfed by advertising companies.
Without the advertising money there is just nothing there. There is zero reason whatsoever to give a single frick about Star Wars. There is nothing there. You could just watch any random sci-fi movie or tv show.
>The prequels flopped and everyone hated them
Nope.
Zoomer history revisionism. Prequels were universally hated and made a big cultural icon franchise completely dead until Disney bought the rights to it.
Without Disney buying the rights and convincing everyone that they always loved Star Wars, it would just be this dead forgotten franchise only brought up to talk about the rise and fall of Star Wars.
>Prequels were universally hated and made a big cultural icon franchise completely dead until Disney bought the rights to it.
You are absolutely insane if you think that.
Mentally ill brainfricked zoomer. I was there before Disney bought the rights to Star Wars. It was a dead franchise mocked to death.
>Mentally ill brainfricked
You're projecting, dude. Seek help.
>star wars was a dead brand before the mouse
You couldn’t be more wrong. SW video games, legos, books, etc were all in extremely high demand. It was one of the most valuable IPs in the world even at that time. Either your memory or your perception is waaaaay off
Prequel hate was seriously overblown and Ep 3 won back quite a bit of good will. People don't seem to remember that.
Regardless of your stance on the prequels, you can’t deny ROTS has one of the best soundtracks in the series.
>ROTS has one of the best soundtracks of all time
FTFY
The prequels were hated by Gen-X and Boomer fricks who expected Jake Lloyd to be the best child actor ever and bullied him relentlessly after the movie came out. Millennials loved those films, partly because the prequels had the best world building of all the SW movies.
I guess me and literally every one of my friends who loved the movies and played the games didn't count lol.
Nothing, its dead
STAR WARS: Dark Forces
STAR WARS: Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
STAR WARS: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
All directed by me.
Better protag than Luke.
Better Jedi too. Like if Gui Gon and Mace Windu did the Fusion Dance.
Wish HE was Anakin's son.
Then he would've definitely fricked his sister unknowingly.
Sorry chud we've already got Hispanic Kyle Katarn now and they used the Dark Troopers in another show
>Hispanic Kyle Katarn
Incidentally similar only thanks to Rogue One be E1M1 of Dark Forces.
>Dark Troopers in another show
Dark Troopers were in quite a few EU stories outside Katarn's stories. They had Phase 0's in the og Battlefronts too.
>Hispanic Kyle Katarn
He's Jan Ors actually. Jyn Erso's the Kyle equivalent.
Nothing. Star wars went off the rails in 1983.
>guys Star Wars is completely dead, let it go
>thread about Star Wars hits the bump limit in 2024
People will literally never not be angry.
dimepieces, badass robots, and no Black folk.
for her to marry me
>What would it take to bring you back to Star Wars?
have someone involved in creation of the script who understands sci-fi and military setting
Rey has got to get naked and that's it.
An alternative arc where the protagonist is a republican soldier who then becomes and imperial officer that shows how the entire Republic was rotten from within and basically how Palpatine did nothing wrong
vuzun gong