What would you say was the darkest period in Nickelodeon's 40 year history?
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What would you say was the darkest period in Nickelodeon's 40 year history?
What would you say was the darkest period in Nickelodeon's 40 year history?
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2007-2016
>El Tigre
>Icarly
>Wayside
>Barnyard
>Penguins
>Tuff Puppy
>Mighty B
>Tak
Wtf did 2007-2011 do to you homie?
All of those (except El Tigre) were mediocre at best.
Not that Anon but this feels like some nostalgia biases talking.
I'd say the present.
They got rocked with a huge scandal, they're not adapting to the streaming age, and their parent company is a mountain of debt.
For the first time, there's a decent chance Nickelodeon straight up won't exist in three years.
Good. Seriously that channel had maybe a hand full of good shows.
I was hoping it'd last until 2042 so we can see how they'd treat the time capsule.
Which is ironic, because they broke grounds with shit like Ren and Stimpy.
What makes you certain about that?
Lesser companies have survived worse than that.
Usually by selling out.
Given how media is nowadays I don't see that making a gigantic difference. I'd rather that than all the IPs get writeoff'd.
Even without the controversies, the post-Victorious output on the network has been rough.
And their main money machine is being milked so dry it's shocking they didn't cancel it yet.
These long runners need to take a cue from Arthur and know when the towel needs to be thrown in.
>These long runners
Spongebob and...?
FOP still gets some new entries but the original series has ended years ago.
>they're not adapting to the streaming age
They did, but that ended up hurting them, and Paramount as a whole, even more.
Streaming is not what it was cracked up to be.
Streaming has a huge problem in not being able to pick up new viewers at all. The whole selling point behind the big major streaming services is that it's filled with all the classic shows and movies from yesteryear.
Except that only works as nostalgiabait for people who occasionally want to see some old Disney or Trek episode. It does nothing for people who want new content or younger viewers who do not and will never care about Ducktales or 90s shows.
And all new content is incredibly rare, usually only consists of a 6 episode season at best, and most services only get a couple new shows a year.
>For the first time, there's a decent chance Nickelodeon straight up won't exist in three years.
You know this could have been avoided if the people running the company knew what they were doing.
I blame Cyma Zarghami for what happened as she's responsible for all the terrible decisions that plagued Nickelodeon for a decade since 2006.
Nickelodeon really needed another Harb Scannell, who was the president before Cyma. Herb really knew how to grow the company to new heights in the late 90s-early 2000s only for Cyma to ruin it all. She's also responsible for every show Herb greenlit getting canceled, except for SpongeBob.
The only bad thing Herb has done was allow all the abusive shit to go on in the live action department.
Wanna know what's fricked up about that? This started when Cyma Zarghami became president, and when she was replaced by the current president Brian Robbins he vowed to never do that again, only for years later to turn Big Nate and Rugrats reboot into lost media. So either he straight up lied to the shareholders or, to give him the benefit of the doubt (Maybe i shouldn't) it was a Paramount decision.
Controversial thing i'm about to say but i'm going to be honest here. Greenblatt was kinda asking for it has he constantly broke NDA on his Tumblr blog even going as far as to leak the Invader Zim movie, so it makes sense that Nickelodeon would see him as a liability and got rid of him and his show as a last minute decision due to his NSA breaking.
Also, what happens at Nickelodeon also happens at Disney and CN, just look at what they did to Owl House and Mighty Magiswords respectively for example, Nickelodeon is just the one with the worse PR, or at least they did until both CN and Disney also took a nosedive in terms of PR, now going indie is seen as the best option.
Also this. They also have the same quality control as Nickelodeon, they're just less strict to how much comes onto their channels.
What Brian Robbins did was even worse, because at least you can still watch most of the stuff that was cancelled under Cyma's reign on Paramount plus. They're too old to he written off fortunately, but I hope Brian doesnt find some BS loophole that gets around that.
I'd say Linda Simensky is the only one I'd feel would do a good job. She's the unsung hero to a ton of great and unique shows that shaped the 90s and 00s. She was even responsible for finding the talent that would produce the first three nicktoons, which put Nick on the map in the first place.
Every new cartoon is so formulamatic and bent on trying to repeat what worked before instead of being the trendsetters that she really fought for, which paid off immensely.
Damn, yeah she really should have gotten the job instead.
How did Cyma get the job instead of here? Witch magic? No really, the lady looks like a witch.
She joined Nickelodeon as a TV scheduler in the 80s. Ironic because the Nick schedule turned to shit shortly after she became president.
>She's also responsible for every show Herb greenlit getting canceled, except for SpongeBob.
So basically, she's roughly compared to Miller of what she did to CN, albeit not as much as Cyma. But she inherited some of the footprints of Cyma.
Pretty much.
You’re forgetting Gerry laybourne (president before Herb). Her era had Rocko, Ren and stimpy, Pete and pete, Clarissa. Herb was where they started getting too corporate like cancelling Invader Zim because violence and cancelling Angry beavers because they said shut up and broke the fourth wall.
No i'm forgetting, i'm just not a nostalgiagay. No offence.
>mountain of debt
ha
100% this
I'd go as far as saying the last month, with Quiet on Set and then writing off almost all their shows the past 5 years including Blue's Clues and Rugrats, makes this the worst month in the company's history
To add more salt to the wound, it literally happen when they where supposed to celebrate it's 45 anniversary.
I wish, we aren't that lucky.
Once it became "The Spongebob Channel", it was on its way out the door.
It's at its worst now, and it's only been getting worse.
What would happen to their IPs if they went under?
Emergency fire sale.
It'd be really weird to think of these all going different places and probalby being massively altered in the transition. I wonder where Spongebob would end up, or FOP, or The Loud House, and what might change about them in that case. Maybe Disney will buy them all and the disnification of everything will be complete when WB folds.
Netflix takeover
Would Netflix revive them in the future?
Oh you bet they would.
>Spongebob is now a gay latino and Patrick is his fat sub boyfriend, Mr.Krabs is now a woman and Plankton is an incel
>The Loud House is now randomly about a mixed race family instead because frick you, also all the feminine characters are now ugly mean boss b***h c**ts, lincoln just exists to get cucked by his family every episode
>Fop is just what it is now but even less funny
>Invader Zim gets rebooted but now Zim is in the right and the irkens all get to come replace humanity and Dib is a racist conspiracy chud who is always wrong and evil
>Jimmy Neutron gets a new female "sidekick" who is the reason all his inventions have ever worked
>XJ9, Kitty Katswell, etc are all brought back just to be made obnoxious and have their designs ruined
ETC
don't give them ideas, silly
nick had a golden age in the late 90s and early 2000s with rugrats, hey arnold, angry beavers, ren and stimpy, i mean the list just goes on. but they gave up on cartoons in the late 2000s and early 2010s for dirty dans live action teen girl sitcoms, and people moved onto cartoon network who tired to go live action but failed
cabal itself is dying and i dont see nick lasting that long, disney created disney plus and HBO max has cartoon network shows. nick is fricked when you think about it
>max has cartoon network shows
But about 35 or so percentage of it has been axed off entirely because of tax write offs and the linear channel itself is entirely dead like DXD, only shows they have left are COTC (final episodes scheduled in June), We Baby Bears (the shit no one really watches) and TTG. So this is nothing compared to what CN currently got.
spongebob
They knew what they were doing
It was an attempt to kill the teen audience to cpature the idea of 'lolz adhd is now, we need to capture the kids'
I just know Nick's channel is going to unceremoniously shut down after a random Spongebob episode rerun.
Right now.
Maybe if they actually were ok with shows being mildly successful instead of canceling them after 6 episodes for not being Spongebob level, then kids would show more of an interest. With access to the internet, kids these days can get bored of the same show shoved down their throats nonstop.
2007. alot of bad happened in the entertainment business at that time.
Wasn't just entertainment, the whole economy just fricked up and we never really got completely over it.
Since C.H Greenblatt exposed them as a soulless pieces shit.
No really according to Emmy Cicierega on her brother's podcast, everyone prefers to pitch shows at Disney as a first option with CN at the second and Nickelodeon at the low bottom if you're really desesperate
If this is the kind of shit Disney is making and they're the "best" then maybe it's better just to pitch to another time period instead.
Remember when they pulled their shows off Netflix, gave the reason that the shows were stealing ratings from their own channel, and proceeded to not air any of the shows they pulled. Good times.
Trips.
2005-onwards, suck-off avatar all you want, but once they started airing nothing but zombob, fairly odd parents, live-action pedobait, and whatever they cancel after 1 season it was all downhill from there.
Couldn't even keep nicktoons network as a lasting repository of their classics for more than a few years.
No need to be a dick about it.
When Sanjay and Craig was airing.
say what you want about how shit the cartoons from the previous years were, but at least nick was actually getting new stuff at the time instead being pretty much nick jr spongebob and loud house all day. the network is on its way to the grave if not there already
Letting convicted pedophile John K work at nick
they own garfield lol this scandal shit is already losing relevance and next month they're gonna make millions of dollars in ticket sales to see chris pratt as the funny orange cat