Whatever happened to action cartoons aimed at boys?

Whatever happened to action cartoons aimed at boys?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Same question, but with comics instead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why is every Spider-Man villain's favorite color green?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Contrasts with the red of Spider-Man’s suit

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The push for gender neutral media in the west caused the industry to lose their boy market who'd rather focus on video games and anime/manga.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I still think it's weird that the people pushing for equality only seem to make shows for girls or shows for "everyone".

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Boys shows (or rather, shows with boy MCs) still exist, though they get disproportionately less of the spotlight on Cinemaphile because dickygays

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I still think it's weird that the people pushing for equality only seem to make shows for girls or shows for "everyone".

      Boys shows (or rather, shows with boy MCs) still exist, though they get disproportionately less of the spotlight on Cinemaphile because dickygays

      Boys stopped watching cartoons and reading comics and started playing video games
      The market responded by shifting to cater to the demo that remained

      It's capitalism, not a conspiracy.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What happened to Radium Water?
    Things changed, homosexual

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's too late to say "let it not develop into a boy vs girls debate", but lets be realistic all the same:
    That, Max Steel, is not a show for boy; it's an ad for a toy that existed before the show, which itself was meant to be a boy's Barbie.
    Toys like that got run out of the market organically, boys don't care about that kind of shit as much and even if they did, a show is not a good way to advertise it, what with TV death; so you don't see new He-man, Transformer, or Max Steel type of show, outside of nostalgia bait and what not.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's not a show for boys, it's a show for a toy that was made for boys.
      What.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Let me explain in simpler terms;
        A toy was designed by a team of corpos with the idea of "We need a doll for boys so we can have Barbie situation with the male audience". Far from that translating into a something that's high quality and organically attracts attention from the target demographic, it was a hamfisted comercial move.
        Now, those same corpos, or similar, decided that a show would be a good add: the toy is aimed for boys to buy, but the show is not made for boys to enjoy, but rather for the product to be sold. It's a soulless toy comercial.

        Anon here is right but tried to make things sound more complicated than they actually are.

        Action cartoons back in the 90s and 2000s were primarily made to sell toys. Same thing with comics actually. The whole point is to get a target audience invested in an IP so that they buy merch. That's where the real money is--just look at Pokemon.

        The thing is that children don't really play with toys as much anymore with the rise of digital entertainment. Children are more likely to be entertained with a tablet or phone than an action figure or playset, so cartoons targeting children just don't push merch like they used to.

        As proof of this, we can even see that the industry has tried to adapt and pivot to targeting adults. This is why you're more likely to see stuff like the new He-Man show, Hazbin, and Invincible before a more kid-friendly, action oriented series like Generator Rex and Max Steel.

        The main issue with this model is that cartoons now survive primarily on viewership like every other TV series. And without toy sale money to back them up, cartoons become more of an expensive risk for studios. As a result, we also get fewer animated series. What used to be a lineup of Ben 10, Generator Rex, Green Lantern, and Transformers all premiering in one year has just become getting an Invincible or two every 2-3 years with longer gaps between seasons.

        First, thank you, second, you do realise you ended up using more words than me, right?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon here is right but tried to make things sound more complicated than they actually are.

      Action cartoons back in the 90s and 2000s were primarily made to sell toys. Same thing with comics actually. The whole point is to get a target audience invested in an IP so that they buy merch. That's where the real money is--just look at Pokemon.

      The thing is that children don't really play with toys as much anymore with the rise of digital entertainment. Children are more likely to be entertained with a tablet or phone than an action figure or playset, so cartoons targeting children just don't push merch like they used to.

      As proof of this, we can even see that the industry has tried to adapt and pivot to targeting adults. This is why you're more likely to see stuff like the new He-Man show, Hazbin, and Invincible before a more kid-friendly, action oriented series like Generator Rex and Max Steel.

      The main issue with this model is that cartoons now survive primarily on viewership like every other TV series. And without toy sale money to back them up, cartoons become more of an expensive risk for studios. As a result, we also get fewer animated series. What used to be a lineup of Ben 10, Generator Rex, Green Lantern, and Transformers all premiering in one year has just become getting an Invincible or two every 2-3 years with longer gaps between seasons.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you were so close to right here
        what actually happened is toy companies became penny-pinching, incompetent boobs, who couldn't make a satisfying toy to literally save their careers.
        So they blamed 'muh electronics' on it. but liking toys is inherent to mankind. the reason kids aren't buying them is there aren't any worth getting, and nobody's parents have any money.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's a bit of "you" take on it anon, not an objective way of seeing it.
          I won't outright dismiss it, but as a counter argument to that, kids do get toys, just not that many "action figures / dolls", at least for the male demographic.
          Plenty of toys of actually popular character, though. Like Bluey or Paw Patrol, my Niece can't get enough when I buy her that stuff (young demographic there, but I think it's worth using as example regardless)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't they still produce MLP, Monster High, LPS, and other shows of that nature every few years for the purpose of shilling toys to girls? Would those be considered exceptions, or did that demographic fail to transition to digital media as hard?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's too late to say "let it not develop into a boy vs girls debate", but lets be realistic all the same:

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what the frick girl in 2010s was dating an older man like that? she'd be calling mr snowflake shirt a pedo too.

        oh also everything in this genre is forbidden now, that's part of it. can't have strong male leads, can't solve problems with violence, can't have evil depicted as evil

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >oh also everything in this genre is forbidden now, that's part of it. can't have strong male leads, can't solve problems with violence, can't have evil depicted as evil
          I wouldn't say forbidden exactly, but nowadays there's always a catch.
          >Can have action and violence, but only against certain demos/perpetrated by certain demos
          >Can have straight male mc, but they can't win fights, can't be competent, must be outshined by other characters
          >Can have competent mcs, but only if they're women/gay/PoC
          >Can't have male mc get the girl because that's sexist (or if he does get the girl, the girl is always right and more competent than him)
          >Also noticed a hierarchy of winning fights in a lot of modern shows. Women always beat men, PoC always beat whites, LGBTQ+ always been straights, etc.
          Once you notice it, every show becomes predictable.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Really annoying that both Invincible and the new Superman cartoon both did this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It’s called “punching up.”

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Vidya scratched that itch better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The thread should have ended here, really.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this is a toy cartoon made to sell toys.
    your childhood is just a capitalist swindle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Good god, is this bait?

      >It's too late to say "let it not develop into a boy vs girls debate", but lets be realistic all the same:

      I've gotten in hot water over at /cgl/ because I've told the feminazis there that pedophilia is when someone over the legal age gets together with someone under the legal age. prostitutes are determined to redefine it and deprive it of credence like they did with rape and bullying.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Good god, is this bait?
        Why would that be bait? That's what most action cartoons are. Sym bionic titan got canned cause it couldn't sell toys.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Sym bionic titan got canned cause it couldn't sell toys.
          Did they even produce toys to sell?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any got any recs for boy's action cartoons?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jayce & the Wheeled Warriors.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        looks neat, thanks anon

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's been such a market vacancy in that niche that skibidi toilet broke through into the mainstream by turning itself into a boy's action cartoon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If a western action cartoon comes out with a male mc and he's allowed to actually be competent and badass, I truly believe it will be a hit. There's a reason boys and young men went to video games and anime, because those media actually give them what they want.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Max Steel
    You had so many examples to choose from, and you picked that. You played yourself anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Samurai Jack
      >Megas XLR
      >Batman Beyond
      I want to go back, bros.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Love Genndy's works but the dude could get shows from clout alone, regardless of how (un)marketable the property would be

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    we have video games for that. Girls don't play video game so they can have their cartoons.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We still have them here and there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, this show ended 6 years ago.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the niche that action cartoons were supposed to fill has been taken over by video games, movies, capeshit, and anime

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >making shows JUST for boys is unfair, why not expand it to something for everyone?
    >what's wrong with girls having their own shows? If boys don't like girl shows, that's on them!
    >Can't make this boys' show too violent, mothers will complain
    >Can't make too many action sequences, that shit's expensive
    >young boys WILL find anything female or passive enough lame and gay, so you really can't have it both ways

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What boys want in a cartoon is, essentially, DBZ. Constant fighting, multiple characters to argue about or "be" on the playground. A billion episodes of all this.
    No western studio has an interest in this. All those fight scenes are too expensive! Reduce the number! You can't have one fight last multiple episodes, that's crazy! How about we put a girl in the team? How does she feel about being constantly treated differently for being the girl? How about we stop all the fun at the end of every episode to blabber some limp moral message? What gimmick do we add so fights are never fatal, or similarly "upsetting"? Should we bother compensating for the loss in drama from that? No, of course not.

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