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WHAT'S HAPPENIN, FORUM
Yamete!
fight
I hope they don't hit each too hard...
Wrestle!
Source?
It's from Octopus Pie, I think.
Yeah.
https://www.octopuspie.com/2013-04-03/595-the-90s/
It always amazes me how many people's childhood is just TV and video games and merchandise. Some people are genuinely shocked when I tell them about how I went to the lake or hiking with my friends as a kid or had swordfights with sticks.
Or maybe you should hung around more boomer minded people and stop whining about “muh media ruined people”
>“muh media ruined people”
that is the true
>Or maybe you should hung around more boomer minded people
Pass.
Yeah you sure are a very special person cause you went outside. So life affirming wow
i had both of those things. both is better
>tv and video games is shallow!
>unlike running around in the woods and playing with sticks!
why is life so meaningless Cinemaphile?
Life has the meaning you give it.
I had both. But eventually chose games over going outside because friends were disappointments.
I think a lot of people had non media based childhoods, it just comes up less in casual conversation.
It's easier to say "I loved Frasier and Sim City." than "I remember the time I popped a bike tire and had to walk it home. A gentle spring rain came down and the wet pavement smelled fresh. I mixed some lemonade when I got home and stared out at the flowers dancing as the droplets drummed on their petals."
Hey man, don't knock it. Some of my fondest memories were bonding with my friends and my dad over video games. Someone saying "I played video games as a kid" does not always translate to "I was a lonely shut-in that wasted their youth".
This. I also remember being happy which I never really have been since I hit puberty. Shit was simpler.
>I never really have been since I hit puberty
I feel that. It's like a switch flipped and suddenly my self-esteem and self-worth went down the tubes. Doesn't help that I experienced a move right around 5th grade so I had to start over with friends in a new state right around when I hit puberty. I didn't "feel better" until I was in 10th grade.
Thanks for reminding me of my parents losing their shit every time I came in covered in dirt, bruises and scratches and them losing their shit because of it.
And then later complaining about me being a lazy piece of shit playing vidyagaems all day.
That's the case for my younger siblings. Long story short, we moved from a place where you could play outside and everyone knee each other to a place with neither of those things. It's all internet stuff for them. I wasn't exactly safe either, though. My life for the past decade or so has been utterly devoid of formative and substantial experiences.
>Hmm, let's see what readers would have seen if they had followed the link on this page on the date it was released
Nice.
Anyone else think Meredith Gran is into feet? She draws and emphasizes feet in a way she doesn't really do for other body parts. You can definitely see it here
Eh, maybe.
I'm suppose to believe their relenshionship is going to work?
Not really. When relationship build upon how quirky they're then it's not a good relationship.
Hell, The pair behind Johnny Wander got better chemistry both their IRL relationship and their comic "Girl with Skeleton Hand"
Lucky Penny fricking sucked though.
I mean, they did but they also butted heads quite a bit. They have that sort of dynamic where they're not necessarily the type who'd easily be friends but they provide something for each other in their friendship.
If you mean romantically, well they're both presumably straight and the Asian girl said specifically "she's not into that".
Based if true.
The evidence seems strong. I mean this pic and this one too
She likely spent a lot of time practicing drawing feet because they're annoying as frick to draw (along with hands), and is now good drawing them unintentionally.
Saved. Thanks.
>tfw I went from this to this
You can always find it again. Remember, the chick from the comic gets a new guy at the end of it all after struggling for years.
>You can always find it again.
>always
this world is not fantasy.
If your standards are low enough, anything is possible.
>the chick from the comic gets a new guy at the end of it all after struggling for years.
that feels like cop out. How many "I can fix her" guys does she need?
A pillow fort
She'll say "You're not as good as the dog"
and he'll say "wtf"
Why did these two break up anyway?
Was it her lack of goals?
Nah, the opposite. She eventually got her business going but he wanted kids and she didn't. Fatherhood was an aspiration for him and hers was living in the moment and expanding her business. I still find it funny she got with Larry though since he's also a guy who lives in the moment but has no aspiration and was living in a van in his mid-30s.
Baking at home would just be impossible while having to take care of a kid, I guess.
At a commercial scale, probably. She ended up with her own shop though. You find out the business tanks in the epilogue comic though.
>Who wants to be tied forever to something from their early 20's?
When I first saw this, it really stuck with me. This line helped me cope with how my mental illnesses kinda fricked me out of living off my art after doing so for like 4 years. I'm still committed to living as an artist but I'm taking time to do things like get a car, get a nicer place, get medicated for my ADHD and really master animation before I get back to freelancing and commissions so when I do go back to it, I'm not scrambling to make rent every single month.
I turn 26 next week, god I hope I'm not wasting my 20's.
Good for you. I’m 32, turning 33, and my 20s were a mess. Everyone works their own timeframe.
I was an anxiety-ridden turbo autist with no social skills. I had panic attacks. I drank too much. I thought about suicide. In my late 20s I went to therapy and started exercising. I made friends. I went on a few dates. I’m starting to write more and I’m saving money to go back to school. I could frame all that as “wasting my 20s,” but if I didn’t go through it I wouldn’t have changed.
How do you make friends in the post "you really should've had friends by now" years?
You stop thinking about it as a “you should have done this” phase. That’s not a healthy way to frame your life.
>That’s not a healthy way to frame your life.
what's a healthier way to frame life?
What do you have control over vs. what you don’t. You don’t have control over your parents, or where you were born, or the stock of people you were socialized in, or the time period you grew up in, and on and on. Obsessing over that stuff doesn’t change it.
You frame your life around the things you know you can control.
Okay and beyond that?
Focus on the things you have control over. If you have to, make a list. What things can you control vs. what things you can't.
What makes you happy? If you're so far gone that you think nothing does, think about the last time you were happy (you were happy once you miserable frick). Focus on the things about that experience that were in your control. Then prioritize those things.
Replace autism with outright crippling but wholly undiagnosed ADHD, and writing with technical skills and I'd be asking you how the hell do you know my life story.
Because said ADHD got misdiagnosed as anything but ADHD during my entire childhood, which just made it all worse for me and turbocharged the anxiety and nervousness, and it was only after a gigantic mental meltdown in my late 20's due to being forced to be the reasonable adult one in some mindnumbingly stupid family matter while waaay too busy with work, which ended up with me being declared too mentally unwell to have a job.
So basically ended with slightly over 2 years being out of work while finding out which ADHD and anxiety medication was the right for me while also essentially rebuilding my mental state due to said meltdown.
All could've been avoided if said "professional" brainfrickers in my childhood could accept they could actually be completely wrong when teachers and parents said "no it's not that, seems just like a weird type of ADHD"
It actually is, believe it or not. I used to run a bakery, and while I didn't have kids at the time, I also didn't have anything resembling spare time while I was working because I was constantly needing to do something: proof dough, assemble pastries, box up orders, the list goes on. The thought of raising a child while trying to do all that sounds horrifying.
From what I've heard, baking is all the shitty aspects of working culinary and more. Is that what it's like?
It is, 100%. Imagine having to make the same shit over and over, on loop, en masse, because you can't have empty shelves and you can't make bread on demand, so you have to make a bunch of it right away, and because bread takes for-fricking-ever to proof and bake you have to start at 4 AM just so you can have some product on the shelves when you open your doors for the day (and they HAVE to be fresh baked every day because people have ridiculously high standards for this shit). Then, you have to juggle taking care of customers and taking care of any orders that come in throughout the day, doing your best to find time somewhere in there to eat your lunch (and you can't prep food while you're eating, lest someone see you and report you to the health department). And after a day of that, you're rewarded with the privilege of bagging up your hard work to sell the next day at a heavy discount (because, as we all know, day old bread is basically poisonous shit) and throwing out the stuff you made a couple days before, so you get to see your hard work either fill up a trash can or, if you're lucky, picked up by a food pantry/soup kitchen so it doesn't totally go to waste. Oh, and you also have to do the standard business upkeep of keeping track of sales and leveraging your available funds to pay for supplies and your bills, which are higher because you're running your oven all the fricking time.
And on top of all of fricking that, you get god damn moronic midwits who look at your job and say "Huh! That looks easy, why do you seem so stressed all the time?"
>"Huh! That looks easy, why do you seem so stressed all the time?"
People who always say this, I find, have jobs that are way easier and they let on and at worst are mildly annoying to do. Like, they can barely handle a phone call, let alone customer service.
i remember working customer service and it was fricking awful most of the time. Still thankful for it though because I helped a lot to get at least some people skill and experience..
If there’s any upside to working shit retail, it’s probably the customer service experience. It’s terrible work and little reward but it’s work that every job wants as a skill.
The most successful bakeries I've found lean very little on their walk-in business, the walk-in business is what starts the business but it's true purpose is to fuel the end-stage business model of the bakery, which is to sell a reliable bulk volume of bread every day to reliable customers.
At the start your foot traffic is meant to establish your credibility. But once you become well known you use that credibility to sell hundreds of loaves and buns to restaurants primarily, secondarily to caterers, and in the process of making all that selling whatever is left to whoever walks through the door. At some point, 95% of the bakery's revenues will be to local restaurants which means you don't give a shit who walks through the door at that point but you still give your original customers a reason to show up because despite being picky shits, they are picky to the point of loyalty. Instead of selling a variety of breads and shit that have to proof, you transition the foot traffic offerings to shit you can crank out in bulk every two weeks and portion out for the front such as miniature cakes, which can be produced in massive slabs and restocked on-demand simply by walking into the freezer with a knife. These cakes can also be very useful to restaurants.
This makes it much easier to control your supply chain and scale your operations and staff because you are producing a reliable and consistent quantity of bread every single day. The (best) local bakeries where I live do this. The bakers start work at 4am and from 10-12 they are delivering product to restaurants and stores while cashier staff handle the foot traffic from 8am-4pm and don't need to do any baking. By 4pm the shelves are empty but the sole purpose of those sales are to pay for the cashier staff, all your money comes from the restaurants and stores.
And the best part is that there is minimal waste, practically nothing, you send the bread home with your staff.
>living in the moment and expanding her business
She's not going to expand her business much without planning into the future.
Her business ended up failing and she had to move back home with her mom to New England. I can't remember if the author said why though.
I gues she's just an idiot then.
I don't believe that men actually want to have kids and only do it to please the woman.
>to please women
Bullcrap. Most women that have even a modicum of skill and personal success only hear from births in social media horror stories and would never sacrifice their own self actualization for "a parasite". Men want kids. Women want to be kids.
Well, will you remember her?
Her comic is in the library of Congress. I don't know how many other webcomics can make the same claim.
>Her comic is in the library of Congress
Why?
Because it's good. A handful of contrarian gays will do the typical Cinemaphile thing and ree about how it's bad becsuse it has gay people or whatever but the illustration, the posing and action, are like textbook level demonstrations, it's really an excellent use of the medium
>becsuse it has gay people
and only really a few, none of which really felt forced except for maybe turning Eve's former coworker trans in the last appearance.
From my count
>one gay: Jane
>two bi: Marigold and Larry
>one trans: Jacob/Jackie
>Because it's good.
What is so specially good or unique about this one when compared to the others
You're unfamiliar with it but you clicked into a thread about it because the two panels in the OP compelled you to
Because female authors aren't held to a very high standard
Sandra and Woo, I think?
>Webcomics selected for this collection include award-winning comics (Eisner Awards, Harvey Awards, Eagle Awards, and Shuster Awards) as well as webcomics that have significance in the field due to longevity, reputation, and subject matter.
https://www.loc.gov/collections/webcomics-web-archive/about-this-collection/
It's not the only one but it's likely in there considering the length of time, its significance in the webcomic community, and the fact that its won awards.
bebbis
I hate female writers so damn much
I love female writers so damn much
I am ambivalent about female writers
I think that female writers are capable of making great and awful work, depending on the individual.
Wrestle then cuddle
I find it very telling that the only stuff about Octopus Pie anyone ever talks about is the epilogue ending stuff or characters fricking.
>epilogue
It's the only thing to come out since the comic ended in 2017
>characters fricking
anon, do you know what board this is?
That's not strictly true, every few months someone posts the page where Eve splashes her drink on Park and guys who never read the comic start seething because a girl did something rude in a comic made by a girl
Ah yes.
Every time this is posted people try to tell me he's at fault but I don't see it. She just seems to go chimp-mode because she thought he dashed out from Chicago just to see her and that turned out not to be true, and he thought she already knew that.
You know, even out of context there's the whole "lizard brain" visual that implicitly criticizes her behavior.
Your lizard brain is pure instinct, there's no critique of her behavior, it's showing she did it instinctually because she was upset
Normally when one speaks of the lizard brain it means a person didn't act as thoughtfully or as graciously as they could have.
To act on instinct, or impulsively rather, IS a critique of someone's behavior. Doing something just because you're upset in the moment is still a critique on one's self.
>not sensing the judgement in the fearful stare of the lizard
even the lizard brain is only giving the go ahead because jesus, lady, you're really fricking upset.
Question is, was the Park dick worth the drama?
The sooner you embrace the wizard life, the better
Embrace druid culture but don't frick your animal
I'm a neo-druid and I don't frick animals.
Every time I try to read one of these slice of life young people comics my eyes glaze over and I start imagining the exciting spy thriller that's happening just off panel.
This happened during the recent Dance Class storytime even though I found that cute.
I think this might ba a defense mechanism I developed when my mom would put on Desperate Housewives.
One arc parodies a spy thriller.
It means you actually have something of a good life, and you prefer to find excitement rather than watching slice of life (even though Desperate Housewives is far from what I call slice of life. Not with the murder and stuff like that)
People who watch slice of life is so desperate for that, they had to watch them to fill their emptiness.
I know, I'm a fanatic for Azumanga Daioh. My high school life fricking sucked.
Weird, I'm the opposite. I usually hate a lot of slice of life shit because I end up getting envious or bummed out because I never had anything going on.
this webcomic is probably great but reading/watching stuff where people are figuring out being an adult and sex and employment and all that shit stresses me out because i'm 31 and i haven't experienced shit in my life
every time i see people talk about this comic or this author i realizei will never get to create anything mildly interesting because i'm so boring and inexperienced in life and everything i do feels unauthentic.
Lean into those feelings, create something with that. Maybe you'll reach kindred spirits, maybe you'll atleast make normalgays wonder what the frick this is about. Either way....
thanks anon, i don't know how i would even attempt that but i'm gonna try
>first I was like
>but then
who is hotter anyway? Eve or Hanna?
Both.
What an amazing first impression this thread is.
No one does, love isn't real. There's only the exaggerated caricature invented in fiction, that we both idolize and try to find similarities in our lived experiences, and even then, they're rarely truly happy.
>love isn't real
anon, that's the thing. You have to make it real.
mom cute
Especially in her younger years
>mom's expression
context?
Eve got away from her at the beach when she was a little kid and she panicked thinking she was lost or hurt.
Now I get it, thanks!
>you weren't worried
I was in the exact same situation at a similar age, but I would have strangled her on the spot for being such an unaware shithead devoid of empathy for her own mom.
She's got a complicated relationship with her mom, from the beginning of the comic right up to the end. There's certainly love in the relationship but they butt heads quite a bit, mostly around the mom pushing her to do things out of her comfort zone and Eve resisting since she doesn't want people dictating her life for her despite her unwillingness to escape her comfort zone. Plus the whole divorced kid likes one parent more than the other type of thing going on.
Man I try to empathize with that, but it just makes me unreasonably angry. Basically squandering your life because you can't admit that sometimes people with more life experience actually know better than you is just a reverse appeal to authority. To me it's such a flag for someone being perpetually stuck in the mindset of a teenager.
True. She does eventually get it together though. Gets married, gets pregnant, and moves on to a (slightly) better job. The epilogue didn't focus much on her mom and her's relationship but I'd assume that would've improved somewhat now that she's in her 30s and a mom.
>she got better
Thank frick.
>Octopus Pie thread
wow.
Why you say that?
Just surprised to see one, and with actual discussion to boot
What’re your thoughts on the comic?
Wish I could say something substantial but all I can say is that I like it a lot and it's something I come back to pretty often
Would you say it’s had a big impact on your life? Any character or arc stand out to you the most?