alright difficultnamebros what'd you get?
not sure why so few americans know that rhys is the same as reese. been called rice all my life.
never been offended at it but I do correct people on it.
This happened to me, but for my middle name. Which isn’t so bad most of the time. But, I was so confused about the spelling, I actually fricked it up on some standardized test way back in elementary school, and I’m pretty sure I still have government documents with two alternate spellings of my middle name as a result.
>This happened to me, but for my middle name
Same. I have no idea how my parents fricked up that hard. One of my middle names is one half the English spelling, and one half my native language, but misspelled.
What in the name of frick. That's almost worse than Le-a.
I feel like biblical names should be mandatory. Like, come the frick on, you have Jack, Christopher, and fricking Nathan, but you can't spring for a single Gabriel!?
Because it's pointlessly long and cumbersome. Which means everyone will shorten it to "Gabe", like Christopher turns into Chris.
One of the points of names is to ease communication and if you have a moronicly long/hard to pronounce name your parents are either <60 IQ morans or they hate you.
>Ruaidhrí >Yes its pronounced Rory
Easy fix. Just remove the idh, so that it becomes Raurí.
Not only is it completely pointless to have in there since it apparently doesn't make any sound, but it only confuses people.
Like some gay up thread said, thank the British being wienerweasels. They did it to the Chinese too though that was also partially because Chinese isn't real and it's actually like 30 different languages that are only the "same" for political purposes.
I don't mind if people misspell or mispronounce my name, but I mind when they have prejudice against me because of it, simply because one set of grandparents were foreigners. I'm the whitest guy you could know(blonde hair, pale white skin, blue eyes) but when they see my name they think "He's a guy who doesn't even speak our language, let's put him in with the other immigrants"
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I mean in Japanese isn't there a whole thing about L and R being mixed? That's why you get stuff like Luffy being pronounce as Ruffy or your Alice example.
And for most people as long as you're sincere and aren't fricking it up on purpose they wouldn't be that mad. And nicknames are an option sometimes depending on who it is.
Why the frick do posts mildly criticizing society and minorities keep getting deleted lately? The jannies must be power tripping harder than ever.
They cut and run from their home society so they don't actually have a stake in Western civilization. They're adrift in a sea of meaningless culture they have no context for so they act out against the only home they've ever chosen.
My last name is Stephen.
Not exactly the most exotic thing out there and yet the number of people who got it wrong when I Was a kid was ridiculously high and that irked me as a kid.
pretty sure it's almost always stee-ven if spelled stephen. the very few people who spell it stephen and pronounce it ste-fen are resigned to having to tell everyone.
if it's spelled stephan though I think it's usually ste-fahn
>Go to store >”Pick up an order for Steven” >”No you mean Stefan.”
This one confused me more than anything. Why are you trying to correct me like I made the mistake?
I have a more uncommon traditional Italian name and these people are lacking I have places to be and don't want to make a scene.
Just give me my coffee.
I have a foreign name because my dad's from foreign lands. It's a fricking common one though so nobody fricks up the pronunciation.
That is to say, when I remember to write the accent, because when I leave it out I get called "Josie."
My last name is the rarer of two (etymologically distinct) variants. Both are rare enough that I won't risk doxxing myself, but you can think of it as being a Kannon in a world of Cannons. My entire life I've been introducing myself as "Anon Kannon, with a K".
Getting medical for a job offer, I had a doctor instantly recognize my way to introduce myself, and ask me if I was related to [Grandpa Anon] Kannon.
Turns out he used to run my grandpa's medical tests for the same job position I was applying for.
I mean in Japanese isn't there a whole thing about L and R being mixed? That's why you get stuff like Luffy being pronounce as Ruffy or your Alice example.
And for most people as long as you're sincere and aren't fricking it up on purpose they wouldn't be that mad. And nicknames are an option sometimes depending on who it is.
I know a Pakistani girl who lives in Japan and still lectures white people about saying her name right but making excuses for Japanese people not having the right syllables so mangling her name far worse than any Anglo could
>tfw you never get a turn with the sand box digger because it’s literally the only playground equipment the crippled kid can use so he has to hog it all recess
look at their shit eating grin, they are doint that on purpose, look at nobody is even trying to pronounce it, they just called it with random M name. irl they'd probably just call her shawarma and walasnakbar
My name is Dennis, but I was in India for work everyone called me Dinesh. As long as I know they're talking to me who the frick cares, it's not like they're being disrespectful it's just not a name they're familiar with. It's a bigger pain in my ass to constantly feel the need to correct everyone than to just accepot that's how they pronounce my name over there.
Used to be immigrants would outright warp their given names and surnames to be more palatable to the natives. They wanted to fit in, and they were leaving their homeland behind, changing their names to something easier for their new tongue to pronounce was literally the least they could do to assimilate. Now "immigrants" demand their hosts be accommodating to everything they want to bring back from the motherland. They want it to be like they never left, except still having every benefit to living in a real nation.
alright difficultnamebros what'd you get?
not sure why so few americans know that rhys is the same as reese. been called rice all my life.
never been offended at it but I do correct people on it.
Emilio. Sometimes people misspell it, or worse, mistake it for a girl's name like Emilia or Amelia. But what I hate most of all is people bringing up Mighty Ducks or Night at the Roxbury. I started going by Emil, which I think is a cooler name.
I grew up playing an old game on PS1 with a character with the outstanding name of Emilio Michaelov lol. There was no explanation of why this Russian kid had a Spanish first name
Anyway I'm a little surprised anyone struggled since Emilio Estevez was pretty famous but maybe that's because I'm old
>Now "immigrants" demand their hosts be accommodating to everything they want to bring back from the motherland. They want it to be like they never left, except still having every benefit to living in a real nation.
Most immigrants today are coming to the West from countries that are self-destructing because of the West, and arrive just to hear neo-nazis and maga call them a threat to civilization. They have nothing to be grateful for.
>Weeh I have no capability of free thought or self control and have to massacre people of a slightly different religious sect than me because of Winston Churchill signing off on some border 100 years ago
You think so little of them
>Used to be immigrants would outright warp their given names and surnames to be more palatable to the natives
Little story, when my great grandparents came to America they changed their last name. They gave their son a different spelling of that name. He gave both his sons different spellings of it. Because of this the only living people with my last name are myself, my brother, and my nephew.
I think it’s also pretty shitty when white americans insist on learning and using chinese people’s given names and ignore their chosen nicknames because they don’t understand the differences in asian name culture and decide to assume everyone feels the way Mirha does.
Man, I wish I had a nasal cavity like that. It feels like I'm sucking air through a straw. This makes me think, though, are black people more vulnerable to getting their teeth punched out?
>Tfw my doctor is talking about how I might need to have nasal surgery so I can breath out of my right nostril
From the picture I'm guessing this is a white thing.
As someone who TAs, I know the struggle of trying pronounce 50-80 new names every semester. It's especially awkward when handing back tests, because you pronounce all the english based names right but butcher all the foreign names
This. I once heard some moron say that Americans can pronounce 'Schwartzenegger' but not 'chimbalomb'ga-click-click-click' or whatever the frick it was, but no American can pronounce any German name either.
>Beethoven >Tchaikovsky >Michaelangelo
Names that are pronounced totally differently in English than they are by those who speak the language of the artist in question, you fricking moron
Okay but I only know those names because I’ve heard them countless times before. I don’t magically know difficult names the first time I encounter them. Actually, I remember being a kid when the Anastasia movie came out and how I had no idea how to say it when I first read it on the movie poster. It took watching the movie and talking about it for me to learn it.
>I remember being a kid when the Anastasia movie came out and how I had no idea how to say it when I first read it
you know your language is fricked up when shit like this legitimately happens
I assume you mean pronounced since that's what this is about, and actually you should listen to Germans and Austrians saying Beethoven, which absolute isn't said BAYT-hoe-v'n
>Germans and Austrians
Beethoven is especially complicated since his parents were Flemish but he was German-born (at least, what is now Germany). He obviously preferred German stylings because he used van Beethoven rather than Von Beethoven. But I hope everyone is bearing all this strictly in mind when they pronounce his name.
Ah yes, nobody ever butchers those names just like how they don't mispronounce those names when saying them not in their native language! Just like how everyone says "Caesar" and "Cerberus" correctly! Hey, remember when Boiardi had to brand his name phonetically so Americans could pronounce it?
Whatever point the author wanted to make with this book is just kinda butchered by their own ignorance. It's sad cause just fixing this one page would make it a fine kids book.
>meanwhile in reality people have butchered and will keep butchering those names so horribly that the butchered version is now the commonly accepted one
>be me >have a pretty easy name to pronounce (Nestor) >but I live in Russia >there are only 2 (two) significant Russians with my name >and one of them is too obscure for normalgays to know about >every time I meet someone new they ask me if I was named after "that guy"
>Tchaikovsky
He's Чaйкoвcкий. There are two different "i" instead of "y" and Ч isn't fricking "tch", it's just "ch".
This is dumb though. Small children don't order their own drinks and give their own names at cafes. And if it had happened she wouldn't be surprised about it happening at school. It's not something she would just imagine happening in future as a small child either. It's obviously just the gripe of the whiny adult writing the book, though nobody is going to struggle with Anoosha
No shit the kid doesn't order for herself, but she sees her mom tell her name to the drive through speaker or to the cashier inside and then they hear what the busy coffee-monger screams in the .025 seconds they have to process the letters scribbled on the cup.
The child is correct to assume that her atypical name causes disruption in the otherwise smooth operation of Western society.
This is dumb though. Small children don't order their own drinks and give their own names at cafes. And if it had happened she wouldn't be surprised about it happening at school. It's not something she would just imagine happening in future as a small child either. It's obviously just the gripe of the whiny adult writing the book, though nobody is going to struggle with Anoosha
Anoosha looks pretty straight forward, sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it had one of those little accent tricks that would make it very difficult for me to say completely authentically. And if it really does sound just like it’s spelled, then if I heard it out loud and was tasked to spell it, I’d probably still frick up because that spelling feels so silly I would probably over compensate and still get it wrong.
I feel like biblical names should be mandatory. Like, come the frick on, you have Jack, Christopher, and fricking Nathan, but you can't spring for a single Gabriel!?
What gets me about this is it's seething and malding because borderline toddlers who usually don't now their parents names, let alone how to say them, can't pronounce a really basic b***h easy to say name without at least a bit of an accent and then having the audacity to compare it to Irish Gaelic where you got shit like Siobhan because the English literally didn't want to transliterate it correctly basically just to be wieners and they hoped it would cause the culture to break down over time.
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Lol what? Micks have plenty of reasons to hate the English but it would be more insulting to force Irish Siobhans to change how THEY choose to spell their own names and make them write Shivawn or something than to keep the spelling intact (minus accent). You're really stretching with that one
MIRHA IS COMPLAINING WHEN THERE'S A FRICKING SIOBHAN IN HER CLASS???
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That's basically what
What gets me about this is it's seething and malding because borderline toddlers who usually don't now their parents names, let alone how to say them, can't pronounce a really basic b***h easy to say name without at least a bit of an accent and then having the audacity to compare it to Irish Gaelic where you got shit like Siobhan because the English literally didn't want to transliterate it correctly basically just to be wieners and they hoped it would cause the culture to break down over time.
>"So, 'Mirha', is that Middle Eastern?" >"The name is Arabic, but I am Pakistani" >"That's some handle you got there, honey" >"Thank you, and what is your name?" >"Hayden" >"'Hayden'. What does it mean?" >"I'm an American, honey, our names don't mean shit"
Literally how hard is it to tell your kid "just tell them how your name is pronounced" and have that be the end of it? It's like if a bunch of kindergarten students pronounced Sean as Seen and he had a meltdown about it.
It’s funny how in a show like molly, when the name of the rich white girl is mispronounced and gets angry about it, it’s a comedic scene. But if she was a foreigner than it would’ve been this serious issue that had to be fixed
Rich white girl names are arguably worse because there is usually no cultural connection. The mother just thought it sounded pretty.
This is why women shouldn't have the right to vote.
Um, akshully Mrs Anoosha Syed, Mirha is being real racist here, as in Aiko's culture her name with the way its spelled WOULD be Meer-ha
ah ee oo ay oh and all that
Good to see the book shows her not getting mad about it anymore, but people mispronouncing your name is no reason to get mad. It's not an exclusive problem for immigrants. I'm white as hell, and my parents got the bright idea to name me a weird variation of a common name. There comes a point, I just accept both versions of the name. Who gives a shit?
God I hate white americans that give their kids trashy weird ass names just because they wanna be unique. I hear it’s a problem particularly among mormons. At least black americans sorta have an excuse in that they wanna reject white culture and make a new one just for themselves, but when you’re white and you pluck out a name from the bible and then purposefully spell it wrong just to spite your own community, you done fricked up.
>but when you’re white and you pluck out a name from the bible and then purposefully spell it wrong just to spite your own community
Thats a corruption of the Protestant habit of eschewing Saints names in favor of more obscure Old Testament names to spite the Catholics. By the time the 20th century rolled around most people forgot why they were doing it and the shit spelling started to be "unique".
No problem, it was pretty fun. First time I ever did a storytime too. I couldn't actually find it online so i just took a bunch of screenshots from a youtube video storytime
Cute I guess, I kinda hate to say it, but this probably would've helped me as a little kid.
No one was constantly mispronouncing my name, but some people did confuse it for other names, and it didn't help that it's a somewhat weird name that me stand out when I really just wanted to fit in.
It ALSO didn't help that there was this semi-popular celebrity guy who had the same name, and played a clown character with a silly version of the name, which led to some using that name to make fun of me.
For a while I really wanted to change my name into something short, boring, simple, and generic, but eventually I just kinda got over it and got used to my actual name, maybe the fact that eventually I met more kids with the same name helped, I really hope they're doing well.
Later on, when I stopped wanting to just blend in, I tried to have a nickname for a while, but only one friend used it like once, so it didn't stick lol.
>Bet you only know about that because of Akanebanashi
come on
that would be an obscure example
you could've said joshiraku or gintama or fullmetal alchemist at least
>were you talking to me? >my son is also named Jugemu-jugemu Gokōnosurikire Kaijarisuigyo-no Suigyōmatsu Unraimatsu Fūraimatsu Kūnerutokoroni-sumutokoro Yaburakōjino-burakōji Paipopaipo-paiponoshūringan Shūringanno-gūrindai Gūrindaino-ponpokopīno-ponpokonāno Chōkyūmeino-chōsuke
A bunch of stuff which I can't ever keep full track of. She likes sharing AITA ones with me to see if we agree on whether some was an butthole or not
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> likes sharing AITA ones with me to see if we agree on whether some was an butthole or not
Heh that’s kinda funny, she doesn’t seem half bad even as a redittor, happy for you anon
I personally think it's a stupid name. Luckily you didn't do it with an 'a', otherwise everyone would think you're a c**t worshipper naming it after breaking bad.
>Arabic >mad at wagies for spelling her name wrong >all the kids are nice to her and trying to get to know her but she portrays them as ignorant
Anoosha is from a rich family I bet
Getting a whole children’s book published just to complain about baristas is a pretty good indicator of that, yeah.
Like most things, finding the time, energy, networking connections, and of course money to go through the process of getting a picture book published is a lot easier when you’re rich.
Funny thing is Americans are probably the best in the world at pronouncing names from foreign languages. Try to get a French or a Japanese speaker to correctly pronounce an English name, they'll never do it.
>Americans watch 1000 episodes of Naruto subtitled >Hey what's the main character's name? >NAY-ROO-DOH
completely seriously because of the unfortunate but overwhelming presence of foreigners in the us americans actually are mostly competent at pronouncing a lot of foreign names. and if they don't get them right the first time usually they'll remember the proper pronunciation if you correct them
whereas I've lived in france and even after being there for months many people needed to be reminded how to pronounce my name every single time we spoke
America is the only place where the attitude that failing to properly pronounce a foreign name is disrespectful or bad. No one else believes this. Nowhere else will people momentarily shift into a faux-mexican accent to pronounce a latin name rather than just approximating it in a way that makes it intelligible in the language they're speaking.
I have a small obsession with names and their origins and meaning.
In days of yore in Europe it was a lot more common to localize your name if you were traveling abroad.
Henry in England becomes Henri (On-ree) in France.
Peter becomes Pierre, Pedro, or Pietro.
"William" is an anglicization of "Guillaume".
Either that or neutralize it to the Latin version.
My point is, nobody complained about it, and made allowances for other languages.
In 1834, an Italian man by name of Paolo Avitabile was made Governor of Peshawar in modern day Pakistan for some reason.
He was exceptionally popular because he was good at killing bandits, the locals couldn't pronounce his name quite right, so they called him "Abu Tabela".
I doubt he complained.
>third gen american born in america in an americna speaking familly goes to a school full of american speaking american kids >OMG I AM NOT LIKE YOU OK I NEED SPECIAL SHIT
maya your dad makes fricking pancake for breakfast you are american
this whole thing would only make sense if the children read her name and not were told how to actually pronounce it. the grievence grift is such a fragile construct that it only works if nobody asks questions.
true. as much as this book offends me, I am usually all for the correct pronounciation of names in their native ways. simply more interesting then trying to homogenise everything.
That is because English speakers attempt to write it out in their mind and then pronounce it from that instead of having actual letters for every single phoneme they would need to have.
Say the meer from meerkat and then ha. To be absolutely correct you should say the R as if you're going to roll it and have a little more breath behind the H than usual for English speakers but expecting that level of precision is just absurd even from adults
I don’t think I can think of any other word or name I regularly use where an h sound immediately follows an r sound like that, so yeah, that seems like it’d take a little getting used to.
>Weird foreigners (Probably Al-Qaeda): That's not my name hehehe >Beleaguered English speakers: b-but it's so hard to pronounce! Can't I call you something else
What's in a shame
Anyone who gets mad that you mispronounced their name is a moron. People speak different languages. Different languages use different sounds. Get fricking over it.
Hell dude I have like five different names because every time I learned a new language I took a name in that language. You know what, people appreciate it and even compliment me on my names.
There’s actually important shit to worry about and if you’re mad over people saying your name a different way then you live a privileged life.
>People speak different languages.
all those kids are born and raised in the same city and all talk english though, it's not a migrant retention center or anything, it's their first day at school and they all talk english as their first language.
There's literally no difference between L and R in Japanese. I mean, Japs have been widely made fun of for not being able to pronounce L and R correctly, sometimes in a very racist way, and now you say it's like a privilege?
This all doesn't seem like a big deal to me and I think it should be on a case-to-case basis and is all really just a matter of being polite. Like Mirha's not that complicated of a name and a complete stranger will probably need two tries at most to get it right and never be brought up in conversation again.
(me)
On the other hand, my mother named Elizabeth grew up with the rather odd nickname Sabyte (suh-bite), and is called that by family and friends, while to her coworkers she goes by Beth. So it all just seems to be a matter of giving and taking until it's just right for all parties and is not rigid at all.
>Like Mirha's not that complicated of a name
The book sure makes it seem like it must be tough for an english speaker, and the fact it’s presented in a written and therefore non auditory medium just makes things worse.
I’d be worried to read this book aloud to a daycare group because I wouldn’t know if I were saying it right or not- it just gives a bunch of approximations on how NOT to say it. And then getting it right is a big deal to the plot.
Terrible and ironically exclusionary concept for a children’s book, really. While the message itself is broad, only somebody from an arabic background is gonna get that one important detail right.
Is there really no phonetic spelling at the beginning? Like on the title or on page between? Like the author made a whole book to b***h about mispronunciation of names and how it’s an important thing to stop but couldn’t prevent it from happening for the book?
>need to show the ropes to a new foreign coworker with a weird name (by my standards) >"ok anon first things first, would you be so kind to write your name down here? Because I'm gonna be using it a lot and I'm gonna be honest I have absolutely no idea how to write that >sure thing man, here, it's A-N-O-N >oh I see, thank you
Would this scenario be considered offensive in an american workplace? I've never had a problem with it but then again I've only had one bottom-of-the-barrel trash coworker (with a common name) so maybe USA just works different with all the shaniquas and seans/shawns/shauns
I grew up in Dearborn Michigan which has the highest popuation of mulsims and middle easterners in the country. They literally only have 4 names. All the men are either Ali or Mohommad and all the girls are named Zeinab or Fatima.
I met a girl once whose entire family either had the first names Joseph or Maria, but they all went by their middle names to differentiate one another. She said that on her first day of school, there was a big to do when she didn’t respond to roll call and her teacher actually had to investigate her as missing, because her parents had literally never taught her her own first name and also hadn’t thought to warn anyone at the school.
>Given the name Dillon >People spell it "Dylan" >Legally change spelling to Dylan >People spell it "Dillon", even though this is the first time I meet them
???
The “hot chocolate order” outed them. This is a book where the author is projecting a fantasy where they relive their childhood in a world where the other kids didn’t make fun of their weird name.
So how are you supposed to pronounce Mirha? Because the way it’s spelled in English it’d be mere ha, but obviously that isn’t it if she’s throwing a tantrum over it.
That would be totally fine. She's making up a grievance where they just couldn't remember it and all called her Miro and Neha and shit
Like some gay up thread said, thank the British being wienerweasels. They did it to the Chinese too though that was also partially because Chinese isn't real and it's actually like 30 different languages that are only the "same" for political purposes.
Not really true. They pronounce things differently but Chinese is a single written language intelligible to speakers of all dialects. So while Chinese people from opposite ends of the country can't understand each others' speech, they can write down what they mean and understand each other. Even if to each of them the characters are read in different ways
Most Swedes and Danes can understand each other with little to no problem when in writing, but Swedish and Danish is still considered different languages.
But it's still not the same. They will look at one another's languages and go "Ohh right it's X language, but I can understand this okay. It's close to mine." Whereas both Chinese speakers will look at the same page and both think "This is MY language."
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I just looked it up and mere ha is close, kind of sounds more like “mere huh” which I’m sure is also wrong because it’s not 100%. But like damn dude, if your name is like Michael with the Mi sounding like my, and someone calls you Michael with the Mi sounding like me, does that really upset you, or would you just accept that maybe they speak differently. Because I dunno dude, I thought we were supposed to accept differences and shit. I didn’t know it was open game to mock people for mispronouncing things differently. Like hot damn, I bet someone named Mirha has a real funny accent.
Yeah that's why she had to make it not about just slightly mispronouncing it, but this bizarro situation where they all just say totally different names
Actually no, looking again it seems like in the text she's genuinely upset they slightly get the i or r sounds wrong. Actually yeah, she's a dick
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>But it's still not the same. They will look at one another's languages and go "Ohh right it's X language, but I can understand this okay. It's close to mine." Whereas both Chinese speakers will look at the same page and both think "This is MY language."
That's more of a cultural issue, and not an actual linguistics issue.
If you're told that the people who speak in a different way to you is just speaking a dialect of your language, you will see it as your language but with a dialect, and if you're told they speak a different language, you will see it as a different language, even if they might technically be more intelligible to you than someone with a dialect of your own language.
That would be totally fine. She's making up a grievance where they just couldn't remember it and all called her Miro and Neha and shit
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Not really true. They pronounce things differently but Chinese is a single written language intelligible to speakers of all dialects. So while Chinese people from opposite ends of the country can't understand each others' speech, they can write down what they mean and understand each other. Even if to each of them the characters are read in different ways
I just looked it up and mere ha is close, kind of sounds more like “mere huh” which I’m sure is also wrong because it’s not 100%. But like damn dude, if your name is like Michael with the Mi sounding like my, and someone calls you Michael with the Mi sounding like me, does that really upset you, or would you just accept that maybe they speak differently. Because I dunno dude, I thought we were supposed to accept differences and shit. I didn’t know it was open game to mock people for mispronouncing things differently. Like hot damn, I bet someone named Mirha has a real funny accent.
Other people’s kids.
Lefties don’t reproduce but many of them wind up as teachers because that’s all their worthless degrees are good for. So books like these and the buttsex books are made for them to read to normal folks’ kids. It’s why you should homeschool.
You can tell this broad lives in a leftist bubble because arabs are the most racist people you can possibly imagine. They're not hanging out with people darker than them I can assure you.
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They call me Go-Go-Nuts.
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but she's not black anon
Give her pass, she looks more orange than brown
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her name is serial designation N
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It was a cute story. Relatable for people who have a name that's not common or gets said wrong constantly.
alright difficultnamebros what'd you get?
not sure why so few americans know that rhys is the same as reese. been called rice all my life.
never been offended at it but I do correct people on it.
My name was misspelled when I was born, so I had to deal with an incorrect name on top of a difficult name.
This happened to me, but for my middle name. Which isn’t so bad most of the time. But, I was so confused about the spelling, I actually fricked it up on some standardized test way back in elementary school, and I’m pretty sure I still have government documents with two alternate spellings of my middle name as a result.
>This happened to me, but for my middle name
Same. I have no idea how my parents fricked up that hard. One of my middle names is one half the English spelling, and one half my native language, but misspelled.
My name was normal until certain game wrote my name with a twist. Now everybody and their mom cannot stop with the game jokes. Oh yeah, very original.
Black person just say the name nobody's gonna dox you on Cinemaphile with nothing but your first name
>t.
Gerald?
Taric?
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Alyx!
>Captcha: b4 vr
Hello Teedus
Not me, but my sister's name is Leeanna and nobody gets it right. It's literally just Lee and Anna together.
Ruaidhrí
Yes its pronounced Rory. I didn't need to write a book about being butthurt I get called Rue
What in the name of frick. That's almost worse than Le-a.
Because it's pointlessly long and cumbersome. Which means everyone will shorten it to "Gabe", like Christopher turns into Chris.
One of the points of names is to ease communication and if you have a moronicly long/hard to pronounce name your parents are either <60 IQ morans or they hate you.
í
>using o's instead of ð's
Rookie mistake. Ð's should be substituted with d's or dh's.
>Ruaidhrí
>Yes its pronounced Rory
Easy fix. Just remove the idh, so that it becomes Raurí.
Not only is it completely pointless to have in there since it apparently doesn't make any sound, but it only confuses people.
Like some gay up thread said, thank the British being wienerweasels. They did it to the Chinese too though that was also partially because Chinese isn't real and it's actually like 30 different languages that are only the "same" for political purposes.
I could never get over the way the name "Sean" is supposed to be pronounced
Just think of the famous actor Seen Bawn.
I don't mind if people misspell or mispronounce my name, but I mind when they have prejudice against me because of it, simply because one set of grandparents were foreigners. I'm the whitest guy you could know(blonde hair, pale white skin, blue eyes) but when they see my name they think "He's a guy who doesn't even speak our language, let's put him in with the other immigrants"
Pooty fump
This. Burgerfats can't pronounce any names from white countries either, but they have no hesitation about doing it wrong.
Why the frick do posts mildly criticizing society and minorities keep getting deleted lately? The jannies must be power tripping harder than ever.
Probably some new jannie who still thinks they can hold back a tsunami with their pinkie finger
Probably because most tourist do it to derail threads.
If that were the case, posts that are perfectly on topic wouldn't be getting deleted.
what the hell are you talking about
Why are 3rd worlders like this?
>only 3rd worlders get their names mispronounced
They cut and run from their home society so they don't actually have a stake in Western civilization. They're adrift in a sea of meaningless culture they have no context for so they act out against the only home they've ever chosen.
My last name is Stephen.
Not exactly the most exotic thing out there and yet the number of people who got it wrong when I Was a kid was ridiculously high and that irked me as a kid.
Well now I don’t know if it’s pronounced Steffen or Steven, because I feel like it could go either way depending on who you’re talking to.
pretty sure it's almost always stee-ven if spelled stephen. the very few people who spell it stephen and pronounce it ste-fen are resigned to having to tell everyone.
if it's spelled stephan though I think it's usually ste-fahn
You guys would get along just fine.
Stephen Curry (pronounced Steh-FAHN) probably doesn't help things
>Go to store
>”Pick up an order for Steven”
>”No you mean Stefan.”
This one confused me more than anything. Why are you trying to correct me like I made the mistake?
I have a more uncommon traditional Italian name and these people are lacking I have places to be and don't want to make a scene.
Just give me my coffee.
I have a common white guy name and people have been trying to shorten it to stupid cutesy bullshit all my life.
I have a foreign name because my dad's from foreign lands. It's a fricking common one though so nobody fricks up the pronunciation.
That is to say, when I remember to write the accent, because when I leave it out I get called "Josie."
My last name is the rarer of two (etymologically distinct) variants. Both are rare enough that I won't risk doxxing myself, but you can think of it as being a Kannon in a world of Cannons. My entire life I've been introducing myself as "Anon Kannon, with a K".
Getting medical for a job offer, I had a doctor instantly recognize my way to introduce myself, and ask me if I was related to [Grandpa Anon] Kannon.
Turns out he used to run my grandpa's medical tests for the same job position I was applying for.
I mean in Japanese isn't there a whole thing about L and R being mixed? That's why you get stuff like Luffy being pronounce as Ruffy or your Alice example.
And for most people as long as you're sincere and aren't fricking it up on purpose they wouldn't be that mad. And nicknames are an option sometimes depending on who it is.
Storytime? This looks cute and I’d like to know the context.
I don't have the time so I hope another anon does it
NNNOOO STRAIGHT WHITE BRAYDENS ARE OPPRESSED NNNOOO
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Where's the rule 34 of this uppity little prostitute
THEY CALL ME HEL
THEY CALL ME STACEY
THEY CALL ME HER
THEY CALL ME JANE
THATS NOT MY NAME
Oh, good, I was hoping someone else would do this.
I know a Pakistani girl who lives in Japan and still lectures white people about saying her name right but making excuses for Japanese people not having the right syllables so mangling her name far worse than any Anglo could
I wonder what it is about Japan that causes everyone to lower their standards
Thing, thing Japan type of deal
My last name gets mispronounced all the time. Smelly foreigners need to stop being so salty.
What a sexy child
Anoosha Syed
that can't be the author's real name
All I can say is that she'd better have fat breasts. "Anoosha" isn't a name for for someone without cushion.
More Anoosha for the poosha.
They’re decent
Anon those are some porn grade breasts right there I kinda want to see your idea of "great".
never said great, just decent. BDH has lovely breasts
God I wish she was the main love interest in those movies
Somehow she looks like the abuela from Encanto
Walt?
I want to call cute names to that sexy child on bed
Whatever, you pissy little b***h baby. You made this thread because a kids book hurt your feefees.
Her name is Goda Takeshi
Her name is "dicky".
frick it I'll storytime it
Oh so that’s her name.
Oh so that's her name, case closed I guess.
That's one sexy Arab dad
got a little too compressed but whatever
Just get a western name to use with westerners and for jobs like East Asians do.
but muh identity
>tfw you never get a turn with the sand box digger because it’s literally the only playground equipment the crippled kid can use so he has to hog it all recess
kek I just noticed the wheelchair kid
Maybe she laughed by how ridiculous the name sounds even for a baby?
Lmao it doesn't even look like it's a real Islamic name.
My name is mispronounced by almost everyone I’ve met that doesn’t speak English natively and I don’t sulk like this.
look at their shit eating grin, they are doint that on purpose, look at nobody is even trying to pronounce it, they just called it with random M name. irl they'd probably just call her shawarma and walasnakbar
My name is Dennis, but I was in India for work everyone called me Dinesh. As long as I know they're talking to me who the frick cares, it's not like they're being disrespectful it's just not a name they're familiar with. It's a bigger pain in my ass to constantly feel the need to correct everyone than to just accepot that's how they pronounce my name over there.
Used to be immigrants would outright warp their given names and surnames to be more palatable to the natives. They wanted to fit in, and they were leaving their homeland behind, changing their names to something easier for their new tongue to pronounce was literally the least they could do to assimilate. Now "immigrants" demand their hosts be accommodating to everything they want to bring back from the motherland. They want it to be like they never left, except still having every benefit to living in a real nation.
Emilio. Sometimes people misspell it, or worse, mistake it for a girl's name like Emilia or Amelia. But what I hate most of all is people bringing up Mighty Ducks or Night at the Roxbury. I started going by Emil, which I think is a cooler name.
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I grew up playing an old game on PS1 with a character with the outstanding name of Emilio Michaelov lol. There was no explanation of why this Russian kid had a Spanish first name
Anyway I'm a little surprised anyone struggled since Emilio Estevez was pretty famous but maybe that's because I'm old
>Now "immigrants" demand their hosts be accommodating to everything they want to bring back from the motherland. They want it to be like they never left, except still having every benefit to living in a real nation.
Most immigrants today are coming to the West from countries that are self-destructing because of the West, and arrive just to hear neo-nazis and maga call them a threat to civilization. They have nothing to be grateful for.
>Weeh I have no capability of free thought or self control and have to massacre people of a slightly different religious sect than me because of Winston Churchill signing off on some border 100 years ago
You think so little of them
Peace? Human rights? Welfare and living standart in general?
Only dumb 1st worlder like yourself with no real struggle in life thinks they have nothing to be grateful for.
>countries that are self-destructing because of the West
>self destructing
>because of someone else
IMF loans are one hell of a limiter.
>They have nothing to be grateful for.
We should shove all these ungrateful homosexuals into a fricking volcano.
>the West is destroying my country
>better move to the West
>Used to be immigrants would outright warp their given names and surnames to be more palatable to the natives
Little story, when my great grandparents came to America they changed their last name. They gave their son a different spelling of that name. He gave both his sons different spellings of it. Because of this the only living people with my last name are myself, my brother, and my nephew.
I think it’s also pretty shitty when white americans insist on learning and using chinese people’s given names and ignore their chosen nicknames because they don’t understand the differences in asian name culture and decide to assume everyone feels the way Mirha does.
>There's girl wears hearing aid(s).
But she has hard of hearing. Really?
What are all these non-whites doing in school? Shouldn't they be out working for a living?
all those shaniquas and deshawns have no use for book-learning
I’m pretty sure this is a rich kids’ school and all their parents are loaded. The class might even be purposefully designed to meet a diversity quota.
Man, I wish I had a nasal cavity like that. It feels like I'm sucking air through a straw. This makes me think, though, are black people more vulnerable to getting their teeth punched out?
>This makes me think, though, are black people more vulnerable to getting their teeth punched out?
Only when I'm around
>Tfw my doctor is talking about how I might need to have nasal surgery so I can breath out of my right nostril
From the picture I'm guessing this is a white thing.
Man there's a lot of brown people in this book
As someone who TAs, I know the struggle of trying pronounce 50-80 new names every semester. It's especially awkward when handing back tests, because you pronounce all the english based names right but butcher all the foreign names
Probably east bay such as Oakland
6
Oh she's a bit cuter now I know this part is fantasy
Why’s this kid ordering her own starbucks? Can she even read? I thought it was her first day of school
I have a feeling that it's just the author inserting her own grievances with having her name misspelled
this is a stupid point because the way everyone pronounces Michelangelo and Tchaikovsky is not how the names are pronounced in Italian and Russian.
This. I once heard some moron say that Americans can pronounce 'Schwartzenegger' but not 'chimbalomb'ga-click-click-click' or whatever the frick it was, but no American can pronounce any German name either.
>Beethoven
>Tchaikovsky
>Michaelangelo
Names that are pronounced totally differently in English than they are by those who speak the language of the artist in question, you fricking moron
Okay but I only know those names because I’ve heard them countless times before. I don’t magically know difficult names the first time I encounter them. Actually, I remember being a kid when the Anastasia movie came out and how I had no idea how to say it when I first read it on the movie poster. It took watching the movie and talking about it for me to learn it.
>I remember being a kid when the Anastasia movie came out and how I had no idea how to say it when I first read it
you know your language is fricked up when shit like this legitimately happens
Of those 3 only Beethoven would be spelled correctly by most people
I assume you mean pronounced since that's what this is about, and actually you should listen to Germans and Austrians saying Beethoven, which absolute isn't said BAYT-hoe-v'n
>Germans and Austrians
Beethoven is especially complicated since his parents were Flemish but he was German-born (at least, what is now Germany). He obviously preferred German stylings because he used van Beethoven rather than Von Beethoven. But I hope everyone is bearing all this strictly in mind when they pronounce his name.
They have done tons of stuff that makes people remember their name even if they butcher it anyway. What have Mirha done?
Mirha is six years old.
>What have Mirha done?
be cute which most brown girls can't do
>What have Mirha done?
Be their classmate which should be enough
Ah yes, nobody ever butchers those names just like how they don't mispronounce those names when saying them not in their native language! Just like how everyone says "Caesar" and "Cerberus" correctly! Hey, remember when Boiardi had to brand his name phonetically so Americans could pronounce it?
Whatever point the author wanted to make with this book is just kinda butchered by their own ignorance. It's sad cause just fixing this one page would make it a fine kids book.
Guy Fieri changed his name back from Ferry. You're just moronic.
Wow, cool outlier! The fact that his grandfather changed his name to assimilate to begin with ruins your "outlier", but cool, nonetheless!
Good for him.
>meanwhile in reality people have butchered and will keep butchering those names so horribly that the butchered version is now the commonly accepted one
>Wearing niqab
>Still showing your hair
Absolutely haram
>be me
>have a pretty easy name to pronounce (Nestor)
>but I live in Russia
>there are only 2 (two) significant Russians with my name
>and one of them is too obscure for normalgays to know about
>every time I meet someone new they ask me if I was named after "that guy"
>Tchaikovsky
He's Чaйкoвcкий. There are two different "i" instead of "y" and Ч isn't fricking "tch", it's just "ch".
й is j
Not dz but j like in julius
J as in the way english uses it, like in judge, or J as in how english uses Y, like in yellow?
Y
No shit the kid doesn't order for herself, but she sees her mom tell her name to the drive through speaker or to the cashier inside and then they hear what the busy coffee-monger screams in the .025 seconds they have to process the letters scribbled on the cup.
The child is correct to assume that her atypical name causes disruption in the otherwise smooth operation of Western society.
>Arabic
Obvious in hindsight.
It says "When she ordered"
I'm sorry this baby book is beyond your comprehension level anon
>It says "When she ordered"
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnreliableNarrator
My evidence?
>Arabic
Could be future tense.
This is dumb though. Small children don't order their own drinks and give their own names at cafes. And if it had happened she wouldn't be surprised about it happening at school. It's not something she would just imagine happening in future as a small child either. It's obviously just the gripe of the whiny adult writing the book, though nobody is going to struggle with Anoosha
>nobody is going to struggle with Anoosha
Anoosha looks pretty straight forward, sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it had one of those little accent tricks that would make it very difficult for me to say completely authentically. And if it really does sound just like it’s spelled, then if I heard it out loud and was tasked to spell it, I’d probably still frick up because that spelling feels so silly I would probably over compensate and still get it wrong.
>there's no Bort keychain
the keychain struggle is real. as a kid i would seethe because they didn't have a giftshop mug with my name on it.
I feel like biblical names should be mandatory. Like, come the frick on, you have Jack, Christopher, and fricking Nathan, but you can't spring for a single Gabriel!?
Holy shit, she’s 4. What 4 year old worries about ordering her hot chocolates at cafés?
This book seems like bullshit and the author pulled it out of her ass.
It's just a kids book, even if it's kinda moronic, overall it's fine. I appreciate how cute mirhe looks
Mirha*
hope she's not mad at me
Hayden's kinda hot, make the next book about him exploring his body
Mirha and Hayden would be a cute couple
>Arabic
what about it?
Nah I pair him with that blonde boy not the brown poo
What gets me about this is it's seething and malding because borderline toddlers who usually don't now their parents names, let alone how to say them, can't pronounce a really basic b***h easy to say name without at least a bit of an accent and then having the audacity to compare it to Irish Gaelic where you got shit like Siobhan because the English literally didn't want to transliterate it correctly basically just to be wieners and they hoped it would cause the culture to break down over time.
Lol what? Micks have plenty of reasons to hate the English but it would be more insulting to force Irish Siobhans to change how THEY choose to spell their own names and make them write Shivawn or something than to keep the spelling intact (minus accent). You're really stretching with that one
>granddad
Flintstones?
MIRHA IS COMPLAINING WHEN THERE'S A FRICKING SIOBHAN IN HER CLASS???
That's basically what
said.
Yeah but siobhad is white so it doesn’t matter
The Irish aren't white. What are you on about?
White passing
Irish are whiter than Germoids.
>Black kid can't even spell his own name
Pretty fricking racist thing to include.
>"So, 'Mirha', is that Middle Eastern?"
>"The name is Arabic, but I am Pakistani"
>"That's some handle you got there, honey"
>"Thank you, and what is your name?"
>"Hayden"
>"'Hayden'. What does it mean?"
>"I'm an American, honey, our names don't mean shit"
It means from the valley of hay. One of the simplest possible Anglo names to figure out you rootless subhuman
It's a pulp fiction quote silly
Notice how she only confronted the white kid personally
It's because she yelled at him, they were the closest friends.
reading comprehension
Literally how hard is it to tell your kid "just tell them how your name is pronounced" and have that be the end of it? It's like if a bunch of kindergarten students pronounced Sean as Seen and he had a meltdown about it.
It’s funny how in a show like molly, when the name of the rich white girl is mispronounced and gets angry about it, it’s a comedic scene. But if she was a foreigner than it would’ve been this serious issue that had to be fixed
It is funny. However, I thought Andrew was a little as well.
Rich white girl names are arguably worse because there is usually no cultural connection. The mother just thought it sounded pretty.
This is why women shouldn't have the right to vote.
>I'll make sure to say your name right from now on, Mirha.
No kindergartener would ever form a sentence like this.
KUZCO!!!
man she's really entitled in this page
Yeah that line she picked is gonna get tiring for literally everyone really fricking quick.
Um, akshully Mrs Anoosha Syed, Mirha is being real racist here, as in Aiko's culture her name with the way its spelled WOULD be Meer-ha
ah ee oo ay oh and all that
shoot responded to that instead of the page itself
Good to see the book shows her not getting mad about it anymore, but people mispronouncing your name is no reason to get mad. It's not an exclusive problem for immigrants. I'm white as hell, and my parents got the bright idea to name me a weird variation of a common name. There comes a point, I just accept both versions of the name. Who gives a shit?
God I hate white americans that give their kids trashy weird ass names just because they wanna be unique. I hear it’s a problem particularly among mormons. At least black americans sorta have an excuse in that they wanna reject white culture and make a new one just for themselves, but when you’re white and you pluck out a name from the bible and then purposefully spell it wrong just to spite your own community, you done fricked up.
>but when you’re white and you pluck out a name from the bible and then purposefully spell it wrong just to spite your own community
Thats a corruption of the Protestant habit of eschewing Saints names in favor of more obscure Old Testament names to spite the Catholics. By the time the 20th century rolled around most people forgot why they were doing it and the shit spelling started to be "unique".
I was half expecting the book to reveal the kid was actually a troony or something.
Mindbroken
Not an Arabic thing.
Fairly iranian
And that's the end. Kinda dumb but harmless, with some nice art. So would you be Mirha's friend?
Thankyou for storytiming
No problem, it was pretty fun. First time I ever did a storytime too. I couldn't actually find it online so i just took a bunch of screenshots from a youtube video storytime
>that spoiler
Based. Any storytime is a good storytime.
appreciate the effort
Nice work
Nah her house would smell bad
I would corrupt her into being a total harami bacon bawd
Cute I guess, I kinda hate to say it, but this probably would've helped me as a little kid.
No one was constantly mispronouncing my name, but some people did confuse it for other names, and it didn't help that it's a somewhat weird name that me stand out when I really just wanted to fit in.
It ALSO didn't help that there was this semi-popular celebrity guy who had the same name, and played a clown character with a silly version of the name, which led to some using that name to make fun of me.
For a while I really wanted to change my name into something short, boring, simple, and generic, but eventually I just kinda got over it and got used to my actual name, maybe the fact that eventually I met more kids with the same name helped, I really hope they're doing well.
Later on, when I stopped wanting to just blend in, I tried to have a nickname for a while, but only one friend used it like once, so it didn't stick lol.
much appreciated, Mirha a cute would purchase with 3 chickens and a goat
>hi, my name is mirha
>what's yours?
Jugemu-jugemu Gokōnosurikire Kaijarisuigyo-no Suigyōmatsu Unraimatsu Fūraimatsu Kūnerutokoroni-sumutokoro Yaburakōjino-burakōji Paipopaipo-paiponoshūringan Shūringanno-gūrindai Gūrindaino-ponpokopīno-ponpokonāno Chōkyūmeino-chōsuke
I hope she's pronouncing the R in Dmitry exactly right, and getting the こ sound in Aiko right, not the dipthong most Americans pronounce it as
Bet you only know about that because of Akanebanashi
>Bet you only know about that because of Akanebanashi
come on
that would be an obscure example
you could've said joshiraku or gintama or fullmetal alchemist at least
>were you talking to me?
>my son is also named Jugemu-jugemu Gokōnosurikire Kaijarisuigyo-no Suigyōmatsu Unraimatsu Fūraimatsu Kūnerutokoroni-sumutokoro Yaburakōjino-burakōji Paipopaipo-paiponoshūringan Shūringanno-gūrindai Gūrindaino-ponpokopīno-ponpokonāno Chōkyūmeino-chōsuke
This stipid book has got me worried about having named my newborn son Skyler. Did my wife and I frick up?
>has a wife
>still goes to Cinemaphile
Skyler is a fine name
I browse Cinemaphile she browses reddit.
We're a regular odd couple.
>reddit
what kind of stuff does she browse?
A bunch of stuff which I can't ever keep full track of. She likes sharing AITA ones with me to see if we agree on whether some was an butthole or not
> likes sharing AITA ones with me to see if we agree on whether some was an butthole or not
Heh that’s kinda funny, she doesn’t seem half bad even as a redittor, happy for you anon
All that name reminds me of is Breaking Bad, honestly, but it's by no means a bad name.
My wife is Skylar. Prepare him to get the A and E mixed up more than once.
Eight year old me would probably scoff at it, but eight year old me was also a twat.
sounds like a normal name for a murican.
I personally think it's a stupid name. Luckily you didn't do it with an 'a', otherwise everyone would think you're a c**t worshipper naming it after breaking bad.
>Arabic
>mad at wagies for spelling her name wrong
>all the kids are nice to her and trying to get to know her but she portrays them as ignorant
Anoosha is from a rich family I bet
She's actually pakistani/Canadian
https://twitter.com/foxville_art?lang=en
So, rich family?
That's consistent with her being an out of touch rich brat
Getting a whole children’s book published just to complain about baristas is a pretty good indicator of that, yeah.
Like most things, finding the time, energy, networking connections, and of course money to go through the process of getting a picture book published is a lot easier when you’re rich.
Funny thing is Americans are probably the best in the world at pronouncing names from foreign languages. Try to get a French or a Japanese speaker to correctly pronounce an English name, they'll never do it.
>Americans watch 1000 episodes of Naruto subtitled
>Hey what's the main character's name?
>NAY-ROO-DOH
Haha what? You guys can't even get Lara Croft right, you always call her Laura
completely seriously because of the unfortunate but overwhelming presence of foreigners in the us americans actually are mostly competent at pronouncing a lot of foreign names. and if they don't get them right the first time usually they'll remember the proper pronunciation if you correct them
whereas I've lived in france and even after being there for months many people needed to be reminded how to pronounce my name every single time we spoke
America is the only place where the attitude that failing to properly pronounce a foreign name is disrespectful or bad. No one else believes this. Nowhere else will people momentarily shift into a faux-mexican accent to pronounce a latin name rather than just approximating it in a way that makes it intelligible in the language they're speaking.
Everyone says Juan as Hu-an/Hwan, though? Nowhere have I heard it said as israelite-an.
my best bud gets somewhat pissed off if someone says his last name wrong, and he's not even foreign
Biiiitccccch
>homosexual childfricker
Stop insulting white culture.
MY NAME ISN'T MILHA YOU DUMB CHINK
I have a small obsession with names and their origins and meaning.
In days of yore in Europe it was a lot more common to localize your name if you were traveling abroad.
Henry in England becomes Henri (On-ree) in France.
Peter becomes Pierre, Pedro, or Pietro.
"William" is an anglicization of "Guillaume".
Either that or neutralize it to the Latin version.
My point is, nobody complained about it, and made allowances for other languages.
In 1834, an Italian man by name of Paolo Avitabile was made Governor of Peshawar in modern day Pakistan for some reason.
He was exceptionally popular because he was good at killing bandits, the locals couldn't pronounce his name quite right, so they called him "Abu Tabela".
I doubt he complained.
I've always liked how Christopher Isherwood got called Herr Issyvoo in Weimar Germany
that thing
>third gen american born in america in an americna speaking familly goes to a school full of american speaking american kids
>OMG I AM NOT LIKE YOU OK I NEED SPECIAL SHIT
maya your dad makes fricking pancake for breakfast you are american
this whole thing would only make sense if the children read her name and not were told how to actually pronounce it. the grievence grift is such a fragile construct that it only works if nobody asks questions.
it's not that easy to pronounce that name correctly with the h in the midle.
of course it is. and I'm not just saying that because I'm polish.
I hope she can correctly say Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
she better or it's the dunce cap until she graduates college.
we call him kurwa
we call him chong
it also would make sense if she was a migrant arriving there, but she's born there alongside everyone, that cultural pride has no room there.
This book would have been an excellent chance to introduce phonemics to kids
true. as much as this book offends me, I am usually all for the correct pronounciation of names in their native ways. simply more interesting then trying to homogenise everything.
kids that age have difficulty putting letters in the right order, they aren't learning stupid runes just to pronounce some angry paki's name
It never hurts to start them early and expand their mind.
All of this can be solved by making English a phonetically written langusge like Finnish
but this whole story happens orally, they just can't pronounce the hard 'h' in the middle properly, or don't want to.
That is because English speakers attempt to write it out in their mind and then pronounce it from that instead of having actual letters for every single phoneme they would need to have.
just because you know the phoneme doesn't mean you can pronounce it. see ; French "an" "on" and "in".
Those aren't written phonetically. They are just nasal wovels they are not hard at all
>They are just nasal wovels they are not hard at all
And yet you can't pronounce them
I can
I still don't know how to pronounce it. Is she some sort of turkroach?
it's either Mira, Mirra, MirHa or Miria.
Even if I know what it is I'll still pronounce it wrong on purpose.
probably Mir-Ha with a clear cut and the "r" is slighly wet.
Say the meer from meerkat and then ha. To be absolutely correct you should say the R as if you're going to roll it and have a little more breath behind the H than usual for English speakers but expecting that level of precision is just absurd even from adults
So I should pronounce it like the Russian satellite? Meer?
Yes. Perfectly adequate
Yeah, hard to tell from that storybook.
Some youtube clips show examples of how people would pronounce it:
I don’t think I can think of any other word or name I regularly use where an h sound immediately follows an r sound like that, so yeah, that seems like it’d take a little getting used to.
for me, it is Maid Marla
>Weird foreigners (Probably Al-Qaeda): That's not my name hehehe
>Beleaguered English speakers: b-but it's so hard to pronounce! Can't I call you something else
What's in a shame
The teacher is the only one at fault there, she even has it written down on paper under her eyes, just just being racist or something
Anyone who gets mad that you mispronounced their name is a moron. People speak different languages. Different languages use different sounds. Get fricking over it.
Hell dude I have like five different names because every time I learned a new language I took a name in that language. You know what, people appreciate it and even compliment me on my names.
There’s actually important shit to worry about and if you’re mad over people saying your name a different way then you live a privileged life.
>People speak different languages.
all those kids are born and raised in the same city and all talk english though, it's not a migrant retention center or anything, it's their first day at school and they all talk english as their first language.
And Mirha isn’t an English name.
not my problem.
>implying Mama is mom's name
>implying teacher is a name
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>zero results
I am VERY disappointed in you, Cinemaphile.
elaborate
It means he was hoping for pornographic drawings anon
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Sorry anon
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>anon in the two last panels
God I wish that was me.
Oh god the grip strength
But excellent job preserving the sanctity of r34
>the grip strength
That's the best part.
>uncut dick
Very nice
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Beautiful
I hate you.
Also, I'd like to see this sand try that "That's not my name" shit in Japan.
There's literally no difference between L and R in Japanese. I mean, Japs have been widely made fun of for not being able to pronounce L and R correctly, sometimes in a very racist way, and now you say it's like a privilege?
When the eye exam is rigged against you.
This all doesn't seem like a big deal to me and I think it should be on a case-to-case basis and is all really just a matter of being polite. Like Mirha's not that complicated of a name and a complete stranger will probably need two tries at most to get it right and never be brought up in conversation again.
(me)
On the other hand, my mother named Elizabeth grew up with the rather odd nickname Sabyte (suh-bite), and is called that by family and friends, while to her coworkers she goes by Beth. So it all just seems to be a matter of giving and taking until it's just right for all parties and is not rigid at all.
>Like Mirha's not that complicated of a name
The book sure makes it seem like it must be tough for an english speaker, and the fact it’s presented in a written and therefore non auditory medium just makes things worse.
I’d be worried to read this book aloud to a daycare group because I wouldn’t know if I were saying it right or not- it just gives a bunch of approximations on how NOT to say it. And then getting it right is a big deal to the plot.
Terrible and ironically exclusionary concept for a children’s book, really. While the message itself is broad, only somebody from an arabic background is gonna get that one important detail right.
Is there really no phonetic spelling at the beginning? Like on the title or on page between? Like the author made a whole book to b***h about mispronunciation of names and how it’s an important thing to stop but couldn’t prevent it from happening for the book?
There’s one here
but I dunno if this is actually a page.
This could and probably should have been incorporated into the story portion.
The funny thing is is that mirha doesn’t even pronounce it properly here
. مرحا would be prouver like Mar-ha not Mir-ha
https://www.howtopronounce.com/arabic/%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%AD%D8%A7
Pronounced
That Arabic 'h' sound is the bane of my existence. Come up with something better than an 'h' to represent it.
It’s kind of like sound you make after drinking soda, with the “Ahhhhhh” sound you make
>need to show the ropes to a new foreign coworker with a weird name (by my standards)
>"ok anon first things first, would you be so kind to write your name down here? Because I'm gonna be using it a lot and I'm gonna be honest I have absolutely no idea how to write that
>sure thing man, here, it's A-N-O-N
>oh I see, thank you
Would this scenario be considered offensive in an american workplace? I've never had a problem with it but then again I've only had one bottom-of-the-barrel trash coworker (with a common name) so maybe USA just works different with all the shaniquas and seans/shawns/shauns
Sometimes I rifle through the payroll records when I want to learn how to spell a coworker’s name.
>Arab girl.
>Name isn't Zeinab.
Shit unrealistic as hell.
I grew up in Dearborn Michigan which has the highest popuation of mulsims and middle easterners in the country. They literally only have 4 names. All the men are either Ali or Mohommad and all the girls are named Zeinab or Fatima.
I met a girl once whose entire family either had the first names Joseph or Maria, but they all went by their middle names to differentiate one another. She said that on her first day of school, there was a big to do when she didn’t respond to roll call and her teacher actually had to investigate her as missing, because her parents had literally never taught her her own first name and also hadn’t thought to warn anyone at the school.
>all the boys were either called Peter or Paul
You my friend has a Goodfellas moment.
>Thinks her name is hard to say.
homie aint got shit on Tiki Tiki Tembo.
>Given the name Dillon
>People spell it "Dylan"
>Legally change spelling to Dylan
>People spell it "Dillon", even though this is the first time I meet them
???
Futa Onahole
>What's her name again?
The toe tag says Jane Doe
Google "lead singer ting tings".
Leftists don't reproduce so who is this meant for? A 30 something estrogen gargling beta sitting crosslegged on the floor?
The “hot chocolate order” outed them. This is a book where the author is projecting a fantasy where they relive their childhood in a world where the other kids didn’t make fun of their weird name.
So how are you supposed to pronounce Mirha? Because the way it’s spelled in English it’d be mere ha, but obviously that isn’t it if she’s throwing a tantrum over it.
That would be totally fine. She's making up a grievance where they just couldn't remember it and all called her Miro and Neha and shit
Not really true. They pronounce things differently but Chinese is a single written language intelligible to speakers of all dialects. So while Chinese people from opposite ends of the country can't understand each others' speech, they can write down what they mean and understand each other. Even if to each of them the characters are read in different ways
Most Swedes and Danes can understand each other with little to no problem when in writing, but Swedish and Danish is still considered different languages.
But it's still not the same. They will look at one another's languages and go "Ohh right it's X language, but I can understand this okay. It's close to mine." Whereas both Chinese speakers will look at the same page and both think "This is MY language."
Yeah that's why she had to make it not about just slightly mispronouncing it, but this bizarro situation where they all just say totally different names
Actually no, looking again it seems like in the text she's genuinely upset they slightly get the i or r sounds wrong. Actually yeah, she's a dick
>But it's still not the same. They will look at one another's languages and go "Ohh right it's X language, but I can understand this okay. It's close to mine." Whereas both Chinese speakers will look at the same page and both think "This is MY language."
That's more of a cultural issue, and not an actual linguistics issue.
If you're told that the people who speak in a different way to you is just speaking a dialect of your language, you will see it as your language but with a dialect, and if you're told they speak a different language, you will see it as a different language, even if they might technically be more intelligible to you than someone with a dialect of your own language.
I just looked it up and mere ha is close, kind of sounds more like “mere huh” which I’m sure is also wrong because it’s not 100%. But like damn dude, if your name is like Michael with the Mi sounding like my, and someone calls you Michael with the Mi sounding like me, does that really upset you, or would you just accept that maybe they speak differently. Because I dunno dude, I thought we were supposed to accept differences and shit. I didn’t know it was open game to mock people for mispronouncing things differently. Like hot damn, I bet someone named Mirha has a real funny accent.
When I first saw it I thought it was the same as Mira and the h was silent.
Other people’s kids.
Lefties don’t reproduce but many of them wind up as teachers because that’s all their worthless degrees are good for. So books like these and the buttsex books are made for them to read to normal folks’ kids. It’s why you should homeschool.
Can somebody storytime the buttsex book next? I’m pretty sure I don’t know the buttsex book you’re talking about, but I’m intrigued.
You can tell this broad lives in a leftist bubble because arabs are the most racist people you can possibly imagine. They're not hanging out with people darker than them I can assure you.
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