Any examples of that framework being more interesting or worthwhile for audience engagement than one based on a self-made/circumstantial hero?
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What's the appeal of "chosen one" stories?
Easier to self insert
How? When was I chosen? I got fifth place in my county-wide Middle School Math Placement exam. Am I now chosen? Do I now identify as "among the chosen"?
Stop being obtuse homosexual. What are your thoughts on the chosen one archetype? Playing this antagonizing reddit butthole demanding answers is really fricking annoying
Only women have an easier time self-inserting as the chosen one. That's because they don't like being the ones taking the initiative. They gotta be the chosen one but everyone else has to drive the story.
Men like to self-insert as the guy that was a nobody but spent 20 years training non-stop and is now on a quest to revenge-rape everyone that mistreated him and build a harem.
>Only neurotypicals have an easier time self-inserting as the chosen one. That's because they don't like being the ones taking the initiative. They gotta be the chosen one but everyone else has to drive the story.
>morons like to self-insert as the guy that was a nobody but spent 20 years training non-stop and is now on a quest to revenge-rape everyone that mistreated him and build a harem.
Fixed your typo
Wow, you sure showed them. You sure are better than everyone else, bub.
Just better than you self-inserting subnormal thread spammers. Now go back to deviantart, moron.
You're a Cinemaphilener on Cinemaphile. Your superiority complex backed by nobody except yourself.
Nah, it literally makes it less easy. What it makes it though is more attractive. Deep down (or less deep down) everybody wants to be special.
That’s less of a chose one and more “throw a dart at a list of names”
ATLA
The trick is making him the chosen one and self-made at the same time.
https://scholars-stage.org/on-the-tolkienic-hero/
Sweaty sex with Korra
>winter gear
>exposed armpits
you just know she loves getting her smooth, brown armpits fricked nightly
The Longest Journey is a great version of a Chosen One story.
Spoiler: She's not the Chosen One, but just the one who will bring the Chosen One about. After the powers of prophecy and fate are done with her, she's just left to wander, never returning to the home she was taken from.
I like that pattern and it's a popular post-post modern one, but kind of by definition it's NOT a Chosen One story any more than Dracula is a western because one of the characters is a cowboy lol. But I get what you mean: a good use of the framework is to subvert it and making it about dealing with not being special (the Blade Runner sequel comes to mind).
No, there IS a Chosen One. It's just not April Ryan.
That's my point. The story is centered around her, and she's not the Chosen One, so the story is not a Chosen One story. It's not about the elements, but about how they come into play.
For example, Steven Universe is a magical girl story despite the fact that he's a boy. That was in fact the ENTIRE original concept of the series.
Just do the Kung-Fu Panda thing, where the chosen one is totally willing and ready to be the hero and fulfil his destiny, but nobody thinks he can actually do it, so he has to prove himself worthy of the title.
The appeal is a character overcoming his flaws and accepting their destiny and calling. Mythology 101.
No, not Mythology 101, you're thinking of Joseph Campbell's monomyth theory which has been shown to be unsupported from historical material that he was selective about using, it's a theory that's only been supported by modern box office success.
Korra actually had an interesting approach to the concept dealing with knowing you’re the chosen one from an early age, having the whole world know, and coping with the weight of expectations. The show was shit for other reasons but the core concept is solid.
>The show was shit for other reasons
Season 2.
It was shit cause season 2 kamikazee'd the whole thing and the final two seasons had to focus on rebuilding.
Even Season 1 was piss poor, relying on Amons magnificence to carry it. And then they fricking ruined that with the moronic ass backstory and psychic powers
Baby Cakes put it best.
I dislike most chosen one nonsense because it takes agency away from said "chosen one."
Suddenly they aren't doing what they do because it's what they wanted to, they were just meant to do it and it's what they were pushed to all along.
I've never liked this view. It's not mutually exclusive.
If the chosen one is destined to kill the villain, but he's pursuing the villain for personal reasons (such as the villain killing his mom or something,) it's not like his own reasons suddenly become invalid just because someone said he's destined to win, or be the guy who fights the villain. The personal catalyst still exists and is the character's driving force. You could argue that maybe some of the tension is gone, since he's 'the chosen one' and therefore going to achieve his vengeance, but like with most stories, that lies in the execution.
And sure, there are stories where the driving force simply is 'I'm the chosen one and I have to fight the villain,' but those are just a subset of chosen one stories.