not a christian, but from what i have heard, hell's description in the bible is super brief and vague, like a place without God's light or something. could someone clarify this?
Hell doesn't exist in the bible. when Jesus refers to people being cast into "the fire" he's talking about death. Spiritual death, separating you from gods light. Ancient jerusalem disposed of bodies in a fiery trash dump outside the city.
a place of eternal fire, where smoke rises up forever.
people will tell you it's simply separation from god, but that's only part of it. it is a complete torture experience that lasts for eternity. you have the physical side(well, metaphysical, it's your soul being tortured) with the fire, and the emotional side with the torment of the guilt and knowledge you are forever separated from god and will never join him.
this is my understanding, at least. it absolutely does talk about the fire, but i personally do know if it talks about the separation like some anons claim. if it does, then that's just part of the experience.
i personally don't know if it talks about the separation*
it makes sense though, guilt and grief, fear and pain. if it's meant to be torture, surely would experience the full spectrum of negativity.
Event Horizon
But the best depiction I've ever read is from some french 18th century catechism or the like, describing in vivid detail the process of your body being consumed by supernatural flames in its minutiae and the mental process you'd undergo for all eternity in an endless loop with no respite whatsoever
Still haunts me to this day
sadly it was years ago and i don't think i bookmarked it
I wouldn't recommend it though, it was incredibly fricked up
Aside from detailed descriptions of your body being burned at various stages (everytime, it resets whence you fully vanish, whilst you are always fully conscious as it's not a real body, limited by material constraints) it included sections on how the people that you could have helped achieve Salvation, your loved ones especially, would lash at you blaming you for their Damnation, and viceversa, and how that would feel seeing your family and friends suffer for eternity while cursing at you, and all sorts of schizo paranoid thought s you would engage in an ever deranged manner on a daily basis obsessing about minute differences in choices that would have prevented your ultimate Fate, so on and so forth, for all Eternity, wondering about whatever tiny moment in your life over and over in your mind as your body is in constant excruciating pain by being immersed in supernatural hyper hot flames
Many things I forget but you get the gist
the takeaway is, once you're able to even partially picture what an eternity of pain would be like, you'd do anything you could to avoid that, even if rationally you'd think it wasn't certain in its existence as the alternative would be the worst thing imaginable
Not even imaginable as I couldn't fully imagine how it would be like beforehand
Whoever wrote that, was a master with words
interesting. any recommendations for anything related to this topic? books, passages, film
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can't think of any piece of media that remotely encapsulates the thought-exercise of an eternity of pain.
Try to imagine your own life without end, with every day the same as the next, without any change to look forward to, that's already punishment enough.
Then escalate it to picture constant and eternal pain at all times.
If you're asking about suggestions about religious material you could start with schizo random online videos such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efiJauhz664
only to move unto catechisms and theology books and finally in your exploration touch unto real concrete ways to start your journey
2 years ago
Anonymous
more the latter. thanks brazza ill look at catechisms. ive never heard of them before today
House jack built, Dante's inferno are fairly clear choices and Hellraiser, event horizon are too.
But those Japanese Jigoku films did a good job aswell.
Spoonfeed me, what is this bros
Fpbp, this was kino as shit.
Watchmen tv series-- it's a dystopian world where woke insanity becomes "normalized"
>What's the best adaption of hell in television & film?
I am Jazz
The depiction in Constantine was good, less fiery pit, more desolate oblivion.
What is Hell described like in canon?
anon...
not a christian, but from what i have heard, hell's description in the bible is super brief and vague, like a place without God's light or something. could someone clarify this?
Hell doesn't exist in the bible. when Jesus refers to people being cast into "the fire" he's talking about death. Spiritual death, separating you from gods light. Ancient jerusalem disposed of bodies in a fiery trash dump outside the city.
a place of eternal fire, where smoke rises up forever.
people will tell you it's simply separation from god, but that's only part of it. it is a complete torture experience that lasts for eternity. you have the physical side(well, metaphysical, it's your soul being tortured) with the fire, and the emotional side with the torment of the guilt and knowledge you are forever separated from god and will never join him.
this is my understanding, at least. it absolutely does talk about the fire, but i personally do know if it talks about the separation like some anons claim. if it does, then that's just part of the experience.
i personally don't know if it talks about the separation*
it makes sense though, guilt and grief, fear and pain. if it's meant to be torture, surely would experience the full spectrum of negativity.
The House That Jack Built
Can't be fricking topped
The Black Hole
Event Horizon
Not specifically hell but White Christmas in Black Mirror is a pretty good depiction of eternal torture
That one Tom and Jerry episode
Jacob's Ladder
Wasn't it purgatory? Or something
This. So fricking kino. part of me wishes that the whole movie was just a journey through hell.
This board
Event Horizon
But the best depiction I've ever read is from some french 18th century catechism or the like, describing in vivid detail the process of your body being consumed by supernatural flames in its minutiae and the mental process you'd undergo for all eternity in an endless loop with no respite whatsoever
Still haunts me to this day
>some french 18th century catechism
you have a source for this? im interested
sadly it was years ago and i don't think i bookmarked it
I wouldn't recommend it though, it was incredibly fricked up
Aside from detailed descriptions of your body being burned at various stages (everytime, it resets whence you fully vanish, whilst you are always fully conscious as it's not a real body, limited by material constraints) it included sections on how the people that you could have helped achieve Salvation, your loved ones especially, would lash at you blaming you for their Damnation, and viceversa, and how that would feel seeing your family and friends suffer for eternity while cursing at you, and all sorts of schizo paranoid thought s you would engage in an ever deranged manner on a daily basis obsessing about minute differences in choices that would have prevented your ultimate Fate, so on and so forth, for all Eternity, wondering about whatever tiny moment in your life over and over in your mind as your body is in constant excruciating pain by being immersed in supernatural hyper hot flames
Many things I forget but you get the gist
that sounds intense my friend. what was your takeaway from it. did it have any significant effect on your outlook religious or otherwise?
the takeaway is, once you're able to even partially picture what an eternity of pain would be like, you'd do anything you could to avoid that, even if rationally you'd think it wasn't certain in its existence as the alternative would be the worst thing imaginable
Not even imaginable as I couldn't fully imagine how it would be like beforehand
Whoever wrote that, was a master with words
interesting. any recommendations for anything related to this topic? books, passages, film
I can't think of any piece of media that remotely encapsulates the thought-exercise of an eternity of pain.
Try to imagine your own life without end, with every day the same as the next, without any change to look forward to, that's already punishment enough.
Then escalate it to picture constant and eternal pain at all times.
If you're asking about suggestions about religious material you could start with schizo random online videos such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efiJauhz664
only to move unto catechisms and theology books and finally in your exploration touch unto real concrete ways to start your journey
more the latter. thanks brazza ill look at catechisms. ive never heard of them before today
you are welcome
Sinners in the hands of an angry God
What Dreams May Come
I think Natural Born Killers depicts it pretty well even if its through hallucinatory shit.
That whole movie is a hellscape because it's fricking shit.
filtered
Go back to bed, Stone. You were high as shit and it fricked the movie.
Kiss my ass, Tarantino. You wouldn't have made it better
You made it fricking worse, Stone.
Star Trek V.
Pasolini's Canterbury Tales. Religious figures are shat out of the devil's bare arse.
Don't wanna know how they did it.
What's that movie where Robin Williams goes to hell to retrieve his sinner wife?
House jack built, Dante's inferno are fairly clear choices and Hellraiser, event horizon are too.
But those Japanese Jigoku films did a good job aswell.
L'Inferno to this day is still scary and gives you some idea of the horror present in hell