What's the main reason why this show is so inferior to its predecessor?
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What's the main reason why this show is so inferior to its predecessor?
Time jump which trivializes the whole element thing and the shitty plots.
Wimmins the mc
Identity politics.
It was a lot more aimless.
Avatar had it's purpose and it's reason for being stated right from the start, and hammered into focus every time the intro played - It's about the war. All episodes and interactions are under that lens and it gives the series purpose and focus.
Korra doesn't have that. I'm not saying there isn't plot, because of course there is - the show is about what it's about. But it's much more loose, especially going season to season, and it can't escape the actual truth that its reason to exist is just to be a continuation.
It's not a story of X, it's a story of what happened after X.
And everybody from X is dead or terribly old, so basically why would anybody that enjoyed X care?
It just has terrible writing, from badly planned and executed characters to entire story arcs.
I don’t know how to describe it but for me personally the writing in korra has this “uncanny valley” quality to it where at a glance it sorta seems ok but the longer you look into it the worse it gets. Especially the characters.
Also this.
A severe lack of character focus due to truncated nature of each season, the over bloated cast and this weird obsession with splitting the main 4 up each episode.
The adventure aspect over the OG was also downsized. This was the easiest to notice in the first two books where we spent the majority of our time in one location, but even when we break free of Republic City LOK elects to shamelessly recycle locales from ATLA (Ba Sing Se, Northern Air Temple, Misty Palms Oasis etc.) very occasionally adding in new road stops of its own.
Muh strong wimin trope aside, it's just poorly written. None of the main cast besides Korra is fleshed out, and there are just way too many characters to care about and not enough episodes to develop them. And korra herself is just unlikable and not very relatable
The scenes in ATLA were a lot more emotionally raw and enjoyable because of the great characters whereas in Korra I was largely unmoved because I wasn't invested into the sloppily written cast.
Not the main reason, but it smashed the worldbuilding of its predecessor to pieces
People are going to give a lot of reasons but honestly one of the most important is that Aang was a really well-written main character while Korra was arguably the worst character in her own series. I'd still drain my balls into her but holy shit she sucks dick, and not even in the good way involving MY dick!
Aang really does not get enough credit for how good of an MC he is. Most of this is largely because he's overshadowed by Zuko in many people's eyes and his sudden and uncharacteristic aversion to violence in the finale, but it's easy to forget just how good we had it with Aang. Not just compared to Korra but compared to the dime-a-dozen good boy shonen MCs who're perpetually on the verges of tears on any given occasion.
It's actually really rare for cartoons to have a strong MC and Aang was incredibly fleshed out compared to most, he's sorely under-appreciated.
Aang was always my favorite character from avatar. A versatile pacifist.
Bad writing.
Its a good show.
Of course its going to be not as good as its predecessor when its predecessor was one of the most beloved cartoons of all time.
Highly beloved cartoons have pulled off great follow ups before though, Batman TAS and Batman Beyond immediately comes to mind.
>Its a good show
Its really not. Even if you divorce your experience from Atla I genuinely don’t see how anybody could call korra “good”. Characters turn moronic or overpowered as soon as the plot needs them to, and that includes during the interpersonal scenes. There are some novel concepts that with rewrites wouldve been great, hell, the red lotus or whatever the frick the season 3 antags were called were a great idea, damn shame that they were never really fleshed out or had any of their motivations make any fricking sense within korra’s own worldbuilding.
I can see how a midwit that doesnt think about shit and just kinda experiences the plot can call it good, but you can call literally any cartoon experienced like that “good”.
The fight choreography and action scenes always remained good to great no matter how bad the plots were. Also the music was great.
>The fight choreography and action scenes always remained good to great no matter how bad the plots were
Action scenes consistently pull in the most braindead morons in defense of an otherwise mediocre to bad series. You know what else has good action scenes? Naruto. And that's a gateway anime of the worst kind.
This.
It's an excellent show taken on it's own. Korra is rough to start with but grows into a warm, caring person. It's not perfect, but nothing is. People don't like it because it's not the same as the first series. If it was, they would be complaining it's too much like the first series.
Korra can't win against internet chuds.
>Korra is rough to start with but grows into a warm, caring person.
It had no premise, it was more focused on world building and trying to explain what happened after Aang won the war. That and all the steampunk shit. It was basically fanfiction
I wish I took a screenshot but there was an excellent post someone wrote that basically said a lot of LoK's faults come from Mike & Bryan writing a show for fandom, instead of writing for the story. So you get bogged down in Easter Eggs, lore, love triangles, and Big Moments for fandom to squee over, while the story itself gets lost.
look for it on tbharchive.org
It’s a problem with a lot of modern TV writing overall, but it definitely feels like there was a shift with LoK.
The part about filler is why I'm not the biggesr fan of Brotherhood as an adaptation.
Is there anyone as interesting as Zuko? No
Is there anyone as interesting as Sokka? No
Is there anyone as interesting as Aang? No
Is there anyone as interesting as Iroh? No
Is there anyone as interesting as Toph? No
Is there anyone as interesting as Azula? No
Is there anyone as interesting as Katara? Yeah probably, but when you have to compare the best of your cast against the weakest link of their cast - and it isn't a clear cut win either way anyways - it's not a good match-up.
"Avatar" has a three components that made it stand out as an IP.
>fantasy cartoon with mainly non-Western setting
Most people focus on China/Japan but there was some Aztec, Indian, Egyptian, and of course Eskimo shit too. Just a fun grab bag of unique inspirations for a cartoon at the time.
TLoK goes with literally my mom's 1920's New York Americana. At the start of every episode I have to resist the urge to close the player immediately because the "Previously on Avatar" segment starts with the repulsive transatlantic accent narrating what happened. Why can't they just show the scenes like in ATLA? Because a bunch of moronic homosexuals wanted to be cute and muted them, replaced the color with sepia tone, then overlaid dog shit silent film music and film grain. Just awful.
>bending is both an elemental power and a martial art
TLOK really devalued the martial aspect and makes it mostly just telekinesis and elemental blasts which is so fricking common in fiction you can 75% of the time guess a characters personality based on what element they represent.
>Avatar is a reincarnation, and they have access to their past lives for guidance
Take a moment and seriously think why the Avatar is important and influential.
They spell it out for you in right away in the Kyoshi Warrior ep, it's because of the past lives. They don't care about Aang, they care about Kyoshi. Jeong Jeong doesn't listen to Aang, he listens to Roku.
Nobody gives a frick that you have 3 more superpowers than the normal 1, they care that you can channel the fricking spirit of their George Washington equivalent and speak with his authority. Back to the prior point, name 5 shows where the protagonist can manipulate multiple elements. Then name 5 where the protagonist is the reincarnation of thousands of top tier philosophers, warriors, and leaders throughout history, and can contact them for advice. They threw that away for a magic squid that gets 1 line in the remaining two seasons.
>bending is both an elemental power and a martial art
>Avatar is a reincarnation, and they have access to their past lives for guidance
I think this two are very good reasons, TLOK essentially scraped off any aspect of the show rooted in spiritualism or dumbed it down heavily. In ATLA the spirits are alien incomprehensible dangerous beings like youd expect from east asian (and most folklore). In TLOK theyre just pokemon
It is to The Last Airbender like what the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy is to the OT: derivative crap that ultimately serves no purpose and didn't need to exist.
Not enough guys.
>What's the main reason why this show is so inferior to its predecessor?
She's a fricking insufferable mary sue, that's why.
Korra is supossed to be the strongest Avatar according to Konietzko but she always collapses under pressure.
The only villain she managed to defeat on her own was Amon and it was a bigger aspull than that turtle thing
I loved it.
Should have had a more focused story/villain maybe a general theme that wasn’t exclusive to a single season.
Korra was supposed to be a single season one and done. Nick wanted a second season, then green lit a third and fourth. The one season story arcs came from that.
>rando villain per season
>forced relationship drama
>characters seem too old to be as moronic as they are at times
Korra didn't know when to use expositional dialog and when to show actions, so it was constantly telling the audience how they should feel about things they hadn't seen. They also saved everything almost definitive in the season for the last episode of it.
Honest answer? Too few episodes per season, combined with the fact that each season had to be a semi-independent story with separate antagonists. If Korra had four seasons, each 20 episodes long to work with Amon, Zaheer or Kuvira it would've been fine. Not gonna defend that whole "le DARK avatar" shit though.
It played too fast and loose with the mythology that the first show established. What made the spirit world in ATLA interesting was the mystery and almost lovecraftian terror of the spirit world. Taking that away made it less interesting. It also changed how the avatar state was established to operate in previous series.
Wasnt half the writting staff from the previous show just not present?
the writing goes for good to decent to shti what are you doing
the entire of season 2 - specially juan
korra characterization overall