My brain never accepted Ethan's frumpy love interest from 3 onwards because of this scene and this chick's character. It is so intense and feels like a cop-out for his character to forget about.
Julia only kind of became cool to me in Fallout, when she was helping out Luther disarming a bomb and there was a bit of banter going.
Yes, that often happens to gene-defining movies. They come to be "generic" (see where the word comes from?) as they define a tone or style or technique.
Thank you for recognising MI2's greatness with us.
In the first one where Phelps is BS'ing Hunt. We see into Hunt's mind as he realizes that Phelps himself was actually the mole, even though he plays along with it. There isn't anything remotely like that in any of the sequels.
The series peaked with Ghost Protocol, so pretty much pick any better moment from it.
Also, people like to joke about how "cheesy" 2 was, but it had its own style and clearly understood what the frick they are doing, rather than achieving it by accident.
GP was good but it was too low stakes to be peak. I am aware that it is possibly the most that resembles the original series, as an episode, but DePalma's first take set the tone for me and I prefer it to be more serious.
>Watching MI >For serious stuff
The first one was a total disaster and it was actively "subverting the expectations" of the series itself.
Also, remind me - when was the last time MI had as stakes a live fricking nuclear warhead being seconds from nuking NY?
Every time I rewatched MI2 I become depressed at how formulaic the series became in its protagonists and antagonists. Needed more disruption, more change, more different.
>Series about great set-pieces and fantastic stuntwork in endless action that makes sense and can be clearly seen on screen >mAkE iT dEePeR!
They thought that character melodrama and farce could make up for a lack of clarity and visual direction. The Rome scene had its merits conceptually but they somehow made one of the grandest and most epic cities on Earth feel cluttered, claustrophobic and flat. Not a single scene in née Part 1 had the compositional style of even Fallout's bathroom fist fight.
Everyone had plot armor and it was too obvious. The finale in the carpark was too capeshit tier. Reminded me a little too much of Attack of the Clones' factory set piece
I fundamentally disagree what you think of 1 being a disaster, so there is maybe no point in argueing with you further. There was a plot twist that the boss was the bad guy, which made the team fall apart and put the movie into fifth gear fast. If it was subverting expectations, it did so in a good way.
My point is that the first one is the weakest. It fails on two different fronts: as a film adaptation of the series, it's just eye-rolling bad. And as compared with what the series became and where it found its calling, it's just too self-conscious and serious for its own good.
But ask me after few beers and I will probably say that Rogue Nation was shit, and few beers later tell you that 2 was too goofy with the pigeons, even if they fit just right into it.
>series about a secret agent being set up, scapegoated, betrayed >series includes 100% lifelike facial-morphology altering mask technology and real time voice replication technology >the only time this is ever used to impersonate Ethan Hunt is the only movie in the series in which he ISN'T falsely accused of X Y Z.
It seems like a lot of missed opportunities for kino bait and switch scenes throughout the series that never tires of using the trick the other way around (Ethan and Co impersonating others).
Lots of good moments ITT boys. For me, it's either the tower infiltration in MI2 for how ridiculously John Wayne it is, or the skydive with Henry Cavill.
Every time I rewatched MI2 I become depressed at how formulaic the series became in its protagonists and antagonists. Needed more disruption, more change, more different.
Nobody remembers any MI scene outside of the floating wire scene in the first movie. The only other thing people time is the kino trailer with Cavil but not the movie itself. All these movies blend together and are kind of overrated. Especially compared to Bond. But the last one was alright even though a lot of people didn't like it. I thought it was the strongest entry t in years.
>Deep dicked by COVID restrictions >2.5 hours of people getting pickpocketed >Luther just disappears for some reason >Literally nothing exciting happens >Even the big stunt is a let down >"Funny" sequence of tiny car driving around in circles that goes on far too long >Durrr AI is le bad >strongest entry in years
What are you smoking?
I was checked out on this series a long time ago and had planned on skipping the last one until the kino trailer with Cavil sucked me back in. All of the movies after MI:III blend together. Like when I think about specifics scenes Im not even sure which one it's from because they all blend together. Which one is the one where he goes rogue? Oh wait that's ALL of them.
At least this last entry he actually let the ensemble cast have some breathing room on screen instead of making everything about himself all over again for the 17th time.
>Nobody reminds the other scene that has been parodied to death before anon was even born
Everyone also memes about Woo's pigeons
The one that completely falls between cracks is 3. It doesn't have anything going for itself, it has still a numeral in the title and despite being one of the better ones, most people won't be even able to tell what it was about
>>The one that completely falls between cracks is 3. >Keri Russell's death >Cruise getting pushed on the car, on the bridge >Unhinged Philip Seymour Hoffman at the end
I'm not a fan of 3, but it has some scenes people remember.
>>The one that completely falls between cracks is 3. >Keri Russell's death >Cruise getting pushed on the car, on the bridge >Unhinged Philip Seymour Hoffman at the end
I'm not a fan of 3, but it has some scenes people remember.
J.J. has only made two good movies. Star Trek 2009 and MI:III
I saw MI:2 in the theater and it was terrible. The only thing I remember other than it being super cheesy and bad were a turbo cringe slo-mo car spin and him braking on a Ducati which were all the rage back in the 90's
I'm a McQuarrie apologist, but Dead Reckoning was fricking shit, dude.
God awful editing and direction, moronic plot (more than usual) nothing exciting, no idea what to do with most of the cast, etc.
I really like how the new ones play clips of the film in during the opening credits and title card to the iconic theme. For me I think the best scenes are the Rogue Nation opera scene and the Fallout convoy / chase in Paris.
These are all the same movie. Completely indistinguishable from one another. How does one even rank them? Wait... Fallout has Cavil in it right so at least that's something I guess
I have never seen anything more romantic than this. I will think about this scene in my death bed.
soul
Mane of culture
My brain never accepted Ethan's frumpy love interest from 3 onwards because of this scene and this chick's character. It is so intense and feels like a cop-out for his character to forget about.
Julia only kind of became cool to me in Fallout, when she was helping out Luther disarming a bomb and there was a bit of banter going.
Came here to post this. Perfect dialog, perfect camera, perfect acting, perfect music, perfect scene.
That was really generic. Get some taste.
Yes, that often happens to gene-defining movies. They come to be "generic" (see where the word comes from?) as they define a tone or style or technique.
Thank you for recognising MI2's greatness with us.
Genre* c**t
FPBP. First thing that came to mind. The most kino scene from the most kino Mission movie.
Thandie Newton looks so young and perky here.
this and the face mask reveal towards the end. Holy. Fricking. Kino.
I would go gay for Ethan in Mi2
Trapping Solomon Lane in the glass box.
In the first one where Phelps is BS'ing Hunt. We see into Hunt's mind as he realizes that Phelps himself was actually the mole, even though he plays along with it. There isn't anything remotely like that in any of the sequels.
The entire Kremlin sequence from Ghost Protocol was insanely good in my opinion. Just a top of the shelf action film sequence.
The first one where Hunt meets Kittridge in the restaurant and blows the glass on the aquarium to make his get away.
The series peaked with Ghost Protocol, so pretty much pick any better moment from it.
Also, people like to joke about how "cheesy" 2 was, but it had its own style and clearly understood what the frick they are doing, rather than achieving it by accident.
GP was good but it was too low stakes to be peak. I am aware that it is possibly the most that resembles the original series, as an episode, but DePalma's first take set the tone for me and I prefer it to be more serious.
>Watching MI
>For serious stuff
The first one was a total disaster and it was actively "subverting the expectations" of the series itself.
Also, remind me - when was the last time MI had as stakes a live fricking nuclear warhead being seconds from nuking NY?
>Series about great set-pieces and fantastic stuntwork in endless action that makes sense and can be clearly seen on screen
>mAkE iT dEePeR!
They thought that character melodrama and farce could make up for a lack of clarity and visual direction. The Rome scene had its merits conceptually but they somehow made one of the grandest and most epic cities on Earth feel cluttered, claustrophobic and flat. Not a single scene in née Part 1 had the compositional style of even Fallout's bathroom fist fight.
Everyone had plot armor and it was too obvious. The finale in the carpark was too capeshit tier. Reminded me a little too much of Attack of the Clones' factory set piece
I fundamentally disagree what you think of 1 being a disaster, so there is maybe no point in argueing with you further. There was a plot twist that the boss was the bad guy, which made the team fall apart and put the movie into fifth gear fast. If it was subverting expectations, it did so in a good way.
My point is that the first one is the weakest. It fails on two different fronts: as a film adaptation of the series, it's just eye-rolling bad. And as compared with what the series became and where it found its calling, it's just too self-conscious and serious for its own good.
But ask me after few beers and I will probably say that Rogue Nation was shit, and few beers later tell you that 2 was too goofy with the pigeons, even if they fit just right into it.
>series about a secret agent being set up, scapegoated, betrayed
>series includes 100% lifelike facial-morphology altering mask technology and real time voice replication technology
>the only time this is ever used to impersonate Ethan Hunt is the only movie in the series in which he ISN'T falsely accused of X Y Z.
It seems like a lot of missed opportunities for kino bait and switch scenes throughout the series that never tires of using the trick the other way around (Ethan and Co impersonating others).
>it was bad on purpose
Lots of good moments ITT boys. For me, it's either the tower infiltration in MI2 for how ridiculously John Wayne it is, or the skydive with Henry Cavill.
Every time I rewatched MI2 I become depressed at how formulaic the series became in its protagonists and antagonists. Needed more disruption, more change, more different.
*MI theme starts playing*
>Red light! Green light!
When he says:
>this mission... is impossible!
At least we can all agree on this
I'd swap 2 and 3. I agree outside of that.
Nobody remembers any MI scene outside of the floating wire scene in the first movie. The only other thing people time is the kino trailer with Cavil but not the movie itself. All these movies blend together and are kind of overrated. Especially compared to Bond. But the last one was alright even though a lot of people didn't like it. I thought it was the strongest entry t in years.
>Deep dicked by COVID restrictions
>2.5 hours of people getting pickpocketed
>Luther just disappears for some reason
>Literally nothing exciting happens
>Even the big stunt is a let down
>"Funny" sequence of tiny car driving around in circles that goes on far too long
>Durrr AI is le bad
>strongest entry in years
What are you smoking?
I was checked out on this series a long time ago and had planned on skipping the last one until the kino trailer with Cavil sucked me back in. All of the movies after MI:III blend together. Like when I think about specifics scenes Im not even sure which one it's from because they all blend together. Which one is the one where he goes rogue? Oh wait that's ALL of them.
At least this last entry he actually let the ensemble cast have some breathing room on screen instead of making everything about himself all over again for the 17th time.
>Nobody reminds the other scene that has been parodied to death before anon was even born
Everyone also memes about Woo's pigeons
The one that completely falls between cracks is 3. It doesn't have anything going for itself, it has still a numeral in the title and despite being one of the better ones, most people won't be even able to tell what it was about
>>The one that completely falls between cracks is 3.
>Keri Russell's death
>Cruise getting pushed on the car, on the bridge
>Unhinged Philip Seymour Hoffman at the end
I'm not a fan of 3, but it has some scenes people remember.
J.J. has only made two good movies. Star Trek 2009 and MI:III
>Before Anon was even born
I saw MI:2 in the theater and it was terrible. The only thing I remember other than it being super cheesy and bad were a turbo cringe slo-mo car spin and him braking on a Ducati which were all the rage back in the 90's
I'm a McQuarrie apologist, but Dead Reckoning was fricking shit, dude.
God awful editing and direction, moronic plot (more than usual) nothing exciting, no idea what to do with most of the cast, etc.
I really like how the new ones play clips of the film in during the opening credits and title card to the iconic theme. For me I think the best scenes are the Rogue Nation opera scene and the Fallout convoy / chase in Paris.
>MI1
>Ghost Protocol
>Fallout
>Rogue Nation
>MI3
>MI2
>Dead Reckoning p1
Objectively correct ranking.
DePalma's lean approach to pacing and storytelling still wins out for me.
>Ghost Protocol
>Fallout
>Rogue Nation
These are all the same movie. Completely indistinguishable from one another. How does one even rank them? Wait... Fallout has Cavil in it right so at least that's something I guess
Fallout and Rogue Nation I can understand getting confused, but Ghost Protocol is very distinct .
>cavills best role by far is when he was a supporting actor/villain
>still trying to get leading man roles instead of finding his niche
sad tbh
>Reloads fists
stocking knife
>itt: pretentious c**ts trying to spin the story how MI1 was this big brain movie and not a run-the-mill 90s action flick