What's the obsession with making superhero movies "realistic"? Why can't they be over the top fantasy adventures? Mainly thinking about DC movies
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What's the obsession with making superhero movies "realistic"?
Why not? It makes for better entertainment a lot of the time. No one wants to see Batman turn into a buzzsaw like in the 60s comics or tv show.
it's cooler, schumacher movies are too silly
Forever’s hood. Batman and Robin’s fine for kids.
Even as a kid I knew what Burton and Nolan did was superior, but to each their own.
No, I agree. BurtonBats is still my favorite iteration. NolanBats pioneered a lot of ideas that influence Batmedia to this day. A mix of the two would likely be the perfect Batman film.
100% factually wrong.
now if only the character was written as well as he looked
insecure nerds wanting validation from casuals who just want a good time
Insecure nerds are the ones complaining about realism
if this movie was realistic and this homie is the best detective on planet earth, he wouldnt need mexican carpet man to solve the riddle
Watchmen was loved by people who normally don't like comic books and regard them as "childish." Every comic writer wants to ape Alan Moore's success in order to have their cake (write about the childish superhero shit they enjoy) and eat it too (be lauded by the adults in the room for it).
Because modern people are maladjusted consumers who substitute fictional media for pseudo human interaction and they need fiction to reflect their gay miserable existence so they can distract themselves with escapism that is like their world and dwell in misery because they're not happy under Kosher law but VILL eat the bugs. Back in the day, there wasn't much of a 'pop culture' or 'fandom' people went to the cinema, had fun for 2 hours and had lives to get to than to think about the media they watched for more than 2 seconds after they exit the theater.
The frick are you talking about, dude? Most people just want to be entertained. They want to see cool shit happening on the big screen. That’s it.
Clearly not, friend. They want to know every fricking thing about fictional characters and worlds to distract themselves from their existence, hence the dark and gritty shit getting popular just as smartphones and social media were starting. Your subjective experience is not the norm. Take a look at the hordes of Marvel, DC etc fans who's lives revolve around fricking stupid movies. There's millions of these people and they exist and are fricking miserable consumers doomed by their own maladjustment into that sorry state.
Hobbies have existed long before the advent of mobile phones anon.
To this life absorbing extent? No, it's unprecedented.
Doesn't matter about the style specificially, it's about the lore, buying the merchandise, consuming every tidbit of information about an upcoming product or media to consume, it's doing this every day nearly all day for years which a sickeningly big amount of 'humans' do despite being adults and having jobs. Well, some of them anyway.
Dude, get over it. People can have their hobbies. It’s not that serious.
They can and it's fun and charming when it IS a hobby, not an all-consuming lifestyle which it has turned into. They can't be a hobby anymore with the mental maladjustment widespread in people through overusage of internet, social media and overconsumption of media.
Very few people can afford to make it an all-consuming lifestyle, as in it being the only singular thing they do.
If they're adults with jobs what difference does it make what they do in their free time?
Let's assume for the sake of the argument they could be self improving. So that's, say, 2 hours of education and 1 hour of working out. Still leaves free time on the table.
Ideally, an adult with a job should not give two fricks about the latest installment in Goyslopman: The Buckbreaking Requiem. End of. I don't know how to make this any clearer.
For you, and for some other random Joe an ideal adult specifically has a Llama farm and invests all his/her attention to that.
And opinions are fine but when you start being tormented about other people making life decisions that don't coincide with your own, that's what actual maladjustment looks like.
It's all about the degree in which you care. If you're more concerned with this than actual catastrophic events or worldwide crime, then you are simply maladjusted yourself.
Not caring that people devolve into escapist fantasies en masse is sad, isn't it? To this extent? Just letting people be is how society goes down the drain and everyone is just miserable ghosts drifting through life, never having an experience they truly can call one they felt alive in. This new generation is socially incapable to a laughable degree and mentally ill up the ass.
Perhaps not to THAT extent but they do devote WAYY more time than they rationally should to media consumption, engaging in fandom and other shit and the dopamine boosts they get from that.
Not really sad to me, no. I'm usually occupied with living my own life. I guess if you're deeply familiarized and concerned with that of others, you may not be utilizing all of your available time in some form of progress/self-improvement, which in turn would equate you to a consoomer wasting his/her respective time.
What steps have you taken the improve your community for example?
dark and gritty isn't really that popular nowadays, capeshit is mostly filled with reddit humor and whedonisms
if it wasn't I'd still be consooming it gladly
Based. Unapologetic non-meta, non-self aware edge needs to make a come back.
>for pseudo human interaction
I have Cinemaphile for that
>Back in the day, there wasn't much of a 'pop culture' or 'fandom'
You are so utterly full of shit
No internet meant that you would strangely forced into keeping your enthusiasm at rational levels and not letting your hobby become your life. Having ENDLESS amount of information at your fingertips and leisure has made fandoms mental asylums for people who can't cope with life than people with passions wanting to interact with likeminded individuals. Hence why diseased people like ''transsexuals'' invest so much in fandoms, for the attention and no strings attached spectre of socialization.
>No internet meant that you would strangely forced into keeping your enthusiasm at rational levels and not letting your hobby become your life
Not only is that also not true, it is also grossly exaggerating the amount of the populace whose lives are completely consumed with media to a negative degree today. You sincerely need to get off the internet before your hyperbole turns you into a lunatic.
Sorry but this just sounds like cope to me. I've seen upfront real people in the flesh talking like CHILDREN over the latest fricking video game adaptation movie. I'm talking near 30s and above. This isn't about the fricking weirdo on Twitter, while he factors in, just wasting away in there, it's about media being a cornerstone of people's devotion these days, especially in the younger generations. They don't just like a thing, they want their lives to be ABOUT the thing. TikTok has made this very clear. I feel a very potent aversion from your post, signaling (to me) that you take what I say way too much by heart which conflicts with you trying to impose on me that you have no dog in this fight.
I am one man, obviously I cannot change decades worth of fandom culture forging in the minds of the public but that doesn't mean I can't point it out? This feels like a 'shut up and consume' type of call. I mind because the health of society is going down the drain and this 'fandom' disease is spreading to LGBT, race movements and politics. It's like fricking children shitfighting all over.
Your entire ramblings can be summarized by "people like a particular niche that I don't, I have no control over it, and it upsets me".
Being as truthful as I can be, I guess it's kind of admirable that you can muster the definition to even care about this. It gives you a sort of purpose.
But in lieu of everything else going on in the world, what type of leisurely activity people partake in seems like such a banal inconsequential topic, I don't see the point in investing this much care into it. It's especially ironic given that we're on a hobby website with all but 1 or 2 boards dedicated to shit that actually matters in the real world.
>I've seen upfront real people in the flesh talking like CHILDREN over the latest fricking video game adaptation movie. I'm talking near 30s and above.
And I've seen scores of people near 30s and above talking like normal rational adults about minor everyday topics.
>I feel a very potent aversion from your post, signaling (to me) that you take what I say way too much by heart
Kek I'm not the one ranting about the downfall of society in a semi-niche imageboard in a thread about superhero movies. If you are a shitposter I tip my hat off to you, and if not I urge you to take a deep breath and go outside some more.
It's not a shitposter, just an anti-consoomer consoomer. A terminally online dark mirror image of the thing he hates with no life worth a fart.
"Chad" and "Stacy" don't go on weeb forums to lament these topics. Only outcasts do, and being an outcast is a state of mind first and foremost.
No offense anon but I can tell you're under socialized as you too gather all of your examples from terminally online cases. But let's assume there is in fact a pandemic of hikikomori whose sole biological function is to consoom media.
Firstly, what business is it of yours what they chose to do with their lives, and secondly, what have you done to change it?
Have you went the Tony Robbins route yet of giving public lectures?
Worked for Dolan. Didn't like this one one bit though.
TDK was successful so they think “realism” is good.
It was, that's why they started following in its footsteps. TDK isn't really all that "realistic" though, just a bit more complex/mature which opens up the genre to a wider pool of readers.
Rises literally had the flying Batmobile from Batman Beyond in it. In the present-day at that.
That's just tech. Not that unrealistic. Killer Croc or Clayface would veer into unrealistic.
Killer Croc was originally just a guy with a really bad skin condition. Him mutating into a literal crocodile man was a later development. Clayface was also just a regular serial killer who wore a clay mask like that guy from the House of Wax remake.
It's basically a continuous generation-long backlash against the over-the-top wackiness of Batman and Robin (1997).
I just want Batman to fight vampires and cross-over with Keanu’s Constantine.
What’s the obsession with whining over the Batman, chuddie? Don’t answer that, it’s a rhetorical and I already know the answer - you seethe over it being the best batkino ever made while it goes against your culture war.
The Batman was more earnest about being a superhero movie than the MCU.
>over the top fantasy adventures?
Isn't that Avengers was? Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was this year
Because the morons who like capeshit are mostly miserable shits who don't want their self inserts to be happy functioning people having light hearted adventures and the goys who slurp up this slop are (rightly) embarrassed they're watching movies about men putting on silly spandex suits and punching people. Capeshit was a genre started for stupid children below the age of 10, and making movies with the intent the original creators would alienate the majority of the audience. You can't make Superman 1 anymore because corporate Hollywood wants to sell as many tickets as possible.
You can be have a "happy life" without being overtly gay and colorful about it, you low test dork.
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blade remains the best capeshit because it was cool for a change
>depressed homosexual defends capeshit
Get control of your weight, stop consuming media meant for idiots, and get a better job.
>if you have better taste than me you must be depressed
The lack of self-awareness on your breasts
to reach people who don't like superheroes
Because deep down, people are afraid superheroes are infantile. They embrace "gritty" and "realism" to cover for their lack of confidence in the material.
That's one way to look at it, but also, improving the material by introducing some dimension to it isn't a bad thing.
Everything is supposed to improve over time, that's what progress is.
I saw an interview with Donnie Yen about his action directing back in his Hong Kong era. He described directing as a puzzle in which you have to create the pieces from scratch and then put them together to make a coherent image or story in the case of movies. Everything in the movie must have meaning or it’s wasted time on screen and that makes for a bad movie.
Anyways, I just thought that was cool. It applies here though because you can tell when a movie is better than others because its story is more coherent and everything shown has more meaning. This is why Nolan’s Batman Return movies will be hard to top. There is a clear story and character archs with a begging, middle and an ending to each movie. You can’t say that for the new Batman movie. It’s long as frick and a lot of shots should have been cut. Batman narrates the movie instead of using screen-time to explain what is happening. It’s a shit movie by comparison.
“Realistic” Batman is fricking boring and done to death. Keep hearing Clayface will be the villain in next Batman. He’ll be the Golden Age version where he’s got bag over his face versus Animated Series version where he actually turned into clay