What's up with the blurry top and bottom borders on all these streaming service torrents? I've noticed it with Shogun too.
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What's up with the blurry top and bottom borders on all these streaming service torrents?
the camera work and lighting was really shit in this
Still better than Netflix where literally every shot of a person has a blurred background and them focused
Literally every single shot in 3 body problem was that
This is because of the type of lens they used, which is a very high end lens popular among “premium” productions.
Basically it's a sign you are using an extremely expensive lens that impresses other cinematographers and makes them goon like crazy but makes general audiences think the image looks like shit.
The most popular lenses for this right now are the Arri DNA lens and Arri ALFA lens. Lens equivalent of a gaudy ass watch that barely works but costs a fortune.
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Shogun for example
is this maybe a way of reducing streaming bitrate?
could be lens, could be something similar to nvidia's multi re shading which designates different sections of the picture to lower resolutions to save performance, in this case save space and bandwidth
Both Fallout and Shogun were mostly shot with Hawk Class-X anamorphic lenses. They're a well-known set of lenses for achieving this exact effect.
lmao
This anon knows.
>Oh, so the lens used in OP pic is for example meant for a different sized sensor, that crops the image. But they used a larger sensor, almost getting full field of view that the lens is capable of, revealing all the shitty edges.
Not quite. The Hawk Class-X anamorphics are a modern set of lenses specifically designed so that cinematographers could get this low-fi blurry edges aesthetic. It's quite literally what these specific lenses were designed for, although what you're saying is also something that people do with other lenses.
Oh wow, designed for it?
I have a few projector lenses, I was deeply into it years ago, so I picked up a lot of info and combos to create unique looks. But to make new lenses with the selling point of imperfections? Kek.
it has become more popular as a reaction to HD television sets since people complain that HD can ruin immersion by making something look too much like a set, so this improves immersion by making it appear more like the watchers own vision.
>But to make new lenses with the selling point of imperfections? Kek.
Yup. It's the latest cinematography meme.
Yeah, that's the theory. I don't really agree with it, as I prefer to see sharper lenses used.
Actual moron. Again, this is what the Hawk Class-X anamorphic lenses do.
this is simply not true
How so? Let's hear your bullshit.
maybe once you calm down a little bit
moron.
https://www.vantagefilm.com/en/news/shogun-filmed-with-hawk-and-vantage-glass-12179
It's a side effect for bad quality anamorphic lenses. The edges of lenses glass are usually less polished. The lens makers work around this by making the glass larger than usual, so the camera sensor only sees the middle part of the glass.
The wider focal length you do, the harder this will be to work around.
But this imperfection is attractive to some, indie filmmakers love it, because it adds "soul"
And the lenses they use are mostly anamorphic projector lenses, designed for projecting film in a cinema.
You put that lens in front of a regular camera lens to get a cheap alternative to anamorphic shooting.
Again, these imperfections is sometimes wanted for the visionaries look. But the visionary can sometimes get a huge boner for the imperfections and doesn't realize it takes away from the scene/movie itself.
Just look at Snyder, he went full boner for very shallow depth of field. You can see how it fricked up many scenes, but he was enamored with the look and disregarded it for his own pleasure.
Oh, so the lens used in OP pic is for example meant for a different sized sensor, that crops the image. But they used a larger sensor, almost getting full field of view that the lens is capable of, revealing all the shitty edges.
Some lenses also has swirly bokeh, turning the background blur into a swirl. The edge imperfections blend into this and either adds to the scene, or makes it worse, depending on taste.
instead of composing a shot artistically so it draws your eye, modern film/tv makers blur the tops and bottoms of the shot in post, so you focus on what they want you to focus on because your brain naturally, without you thinking, does it for you
Like japanese tv shows, 60hz, everything in focus, they can't be saved.
It's crazy how the market blew up once people caught into projector lenses, so I can see why they made new lenses.
That looks like post, usually used for "memories" or re-enacting a scene in the characters past.
>That looks like post
shut up you fricking homosexual
Black person they used some real 1800s lens technology for the 2007 jesse james kino
That Blur really sucks I noticed it way more in shogun then in fallout but the fallout stream didn't look that good to begin with
uhh so why do the filmshitters use this meme lens exactly?
You usually hear cinematographers who use these or similar lenses say that they want to counter the sharpness of modern digital displays and cameras, or something to that effect.
Calls attention to itself.
Cinematographers like the process so they try to call attention to the process, even if the audience doesn’t care and just wants to watch the movie/show without the creators insisting on the artifice and their own presence.
They blew all the money on the sets&customs and the cgi&camerawork is suffering for it.