What's with the US tv trope of a family sitting down to eat breakfast together? does this actually happen in real life?
im European and have never sat down to even eat cornflakes together, nevermind a bloody cooked breakfast.
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No, my dad always left earliest and I'd have to be at school by 7.
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Yeah all out shows are documentaries
>im European and have never sat down to even eat cornflakes together
That's because you commies go home for two-hour lunch breaks. Americans eat lunch at school and work and only get an hour or half an hour to do it, so breakfast and dinner are their only chances for family meals.
Literally never heard of anyone doing this in Europe. Not even the frenchies do that, and afaik they have the longest lunch breaks.
Yeah I have no idea why we don't do that. Honestly it must feel nice for a whole family to start their day like that.
But now I'm wondering: do Americans actually do that, or is it just a TV thing?
TV thing
Yeah that poster doesn't know history. That is absolutely the reason we have all the crap food still to this day.
It does if your parents enforce it. Mine didn't. I don't even remember what I had for breakfast during primary school. First thing that comes to mind is froot loops, so I probably had that every morning. Froot loops in front of the TV, watching Pokemon and Dragonball Z. Good times. No Black folk or spics. Take me back.
>diet of crunchy corn syrup donut shaped wafers, soaking in a sugar gloop 'milk'
>Lobotomised by jap pedo cartoons
In many middle class white families (including mine), eating meals together is the norm
but who has time for this shit?
morning is about waking up as late as possible to do the shit yoi need to do before leavong. that means 10 minute shower, 5 min getting dressed, 2 mins eat a bowl of cereal and out the door. not have a fricking sit down meal
Sounds like you're a wagie.
Maybe on a weekend or something the family might have a big breakfast/brunch. But on a weekday I think it really comes down to schedules. When I was a kiddo and I had a stay-at-home mom, I would eat cereal with her and maybe my dad if he was getting ready for work at the same time. But by high school, we all started our days at different times, so dinner was when we would be at home together.
But I can't imagine having anything that requires serious cooking in the morning unless you have a stay-at-home parent. Otherwise speed is king and something like cereal with milk is what you're going to get.
Yep.
My mother would make a big breakfast on Sunday morning and we would eat together, but that was the only day. It was a nice treat.
I'm a Euro too and always found this trope very comfy and soulful. In retrospect, Europe is really soulless in this aspect as the parents are already off to work and the kids just go to school at different times and that's it.
I'm pretty sure our mornings here in the States are exactly the same as yours. Having every member of the table at breakfast every day of the week is just a plot device so certain conversations can take place before the events of the day.
a 50s trope relic. The family is lucky if everyone gets up and comes down at the same time.
I went to my friends house in highschool and they ate at the table for large meals. If it was something like McDonald's they would just eat wherever.
depends on the family and timing for when everybody has to leave for school or work, when me and my brother were in elementary we would usually eat breakfast with out mom and sometimes our dad when he had to get up early, but when we started going to middle and high school and had to get up earlier since it started earlier we never usually ate together, and times when we didn't have school it was rare for us to eat breakfast together
Yeah, it's mostly a kids' schoolbus thing. Good families will enforce dinner together, thoughbeit
My dad had a fricking commute so he was out the door early but since my mom was already up she had breakfast ready for me and the bros. My wife is strict about family breakfast and dinner since she grew up middle class. They also do a weekly dinner with a bunch of her family.
Families used to eat together before tv trays became popular and people started eating in front of televisions in mid/late 00s.
>and people started eating in front of televisions in mid/late 00s.
Try late 50's. That was around the time a TV was standard in every house.
Can you imagine how bad home-cooked American meals must have been in the 50's for them to be largely supplanted by 50's level frozen/instant food technology? I mean, you know that shit must have sloppa garbage incomparable to what you can get today. And yet, husbands across the nation came home to eat microwaved chicken and instant mashed potatoes instead of whatever their wife made before, and went "yeah, this is fine. This is an acceptable change to our lifestyle".
Nice try but it had more to do with convienence, not everyone ate tv dinners either.
Imagine how bad fresh milk delivered from the milkman must have been
My dad told me when he was a kid, they would eat cereal with straight up cream from the milkman. Then his parents had to drop down to milk for breakfast because they couldn't afford cream anymore, and it took him weeks to adjust to how gross and watery cereal seemed at first. Now I wonder if my (future) kids will even have access to generic store milk or if it's going to be too expensive.
How many carbon credits will dairy consume? Might want to save it all for meat
what is cream to an american?
in europe its a desert product. seems like its more of a milk thing in america
I'd say it's generally a cooking ingredient more than anything. Maybe the average person encounters it as an optional coffee addition, if they prefer that to milk or "half-and-half" (ostensibly half milk, half cream). I would say it isn't really used frequently as a dessert unless turned into something like whipped cream or ice cream.
I like to drink it straight, because I'm a raw physical beast, but that's only something I do once a year or so if I have some leftover from a recipe.
Milk with higher fat than 3.5%. The dessert ones start in the 30s
Maybe I'll put my foot straight up your fricking butthole you piece of dirt. Were in hell.
It's because of wartime rationing
Same thing happened in the UK but worse
I ate breakfast with my dad and siblings in the morning because my dad would drop me off at school before going to work
The Europeans are now bragging about... (checks notes)... being too poor to eat breakfast and having dysfunctional families.
Never at my moms house but at my dads he would wake me up in the morning with waffles
Well lah di dah
It doesn’t happen anymore. Those were the glory days left behind
Euros literally believe Hollywood = everwhere in the USA. They don't realise how huge and diverse the USA really is and how huge the video propaganda machine is.
To be fair, (my fellow) Americans mostly understand the broader world from movies as well. They'll see something on TV and think "yeah, that's what country ___ must really be like". Propaganda and conceptualization of the world and its systems via media is unavoidable, it's just how the brain works.
One claim online is that Japan isn't like my japanese animes ..... but I went all over Japan, even to small towns, and it turns out it literally is just like my japanese animes.
Otherwise, I guess I just always assumed foreign movies were an idealised or segmented portion of a greater culture and moment in time. Like when you travel across states, you usually end up at a pretty different place.
I actually had the opposite experience, but maybe we went there at different times. I went there 6 months ago and travelled all around the country for work. Small towns were usually depressing, unless they had some touristic attraction. The ones that didn't have that were usually just a bunch of ugly housing projects built around a mall that outcompeted every small shop nearby, leaving most of those people destitute. It really bummed me out.
Also 99% of the people I met in big cities were downright miserable. Still, one of the most beautiful countries in the world, but I would not want to live there as a native.
Every town, including random islands, even if they must invent something, all have some tourist angle. Emphasis on inventing something, it's exactly the same reason BIGGEST RUBBER BAND BALL IN THE WORLD type attractions are in the US. I was there in 2019. The smallest place I stayed at for a few days was just a farming community in the middle of nowhere behind some mountains, but maybe they were well off. It was mostly a lot of old people. The worst thing was just distances to any store at all. I have seen vids of the real rundown Japan as a result of everybody moving to the cities with abandoned buildings etc. I've also seen competing videos where people moved back to the countryside and are reviving it because the virus changed their minds. My overall impression is that Japan small towns are dying, and they they have a level of degredation they are willing to deal with, but only to a point. I didn't see your mall deal, but rather, pockets of civilization when in the middle of nowhere. Like one stoplight towns in the US.
I didn't elaborate enough, so you make a good point. I didn't think about the fashion, but rather, the infrastructure, landscapes, roads, buildings, etc.
Well, I would say that Japanese people are far less attractive and far less animated/dynamic/loud than anime characters. Some youth cultures have crazy outfits and such, but otherwise I wouldn't say the average Japanese person gave me a strong sense of individuality or personality in public, whereas that's the norm in an anime.
But yes, media is usually idealized, but if not, it's at least simplified and unrealistic, because it's trying to tell a story or give a particular feeling. Even documentaries are trying to frame things in a particular way, so what they aren't telling can be more important than what they are.
Agreed, Japan was beautiful and a great place to visit, but I have no illusions about it being an enjoyable culture to try and acclimate to (especially when they would never ever fully accept a gaijin, baka or not).
The israelites use tv as programming for the NPCs. They'd just not even figure out they have to eat breakfast if the israelites didn't tell us. I send 99% of my paycheck to Israel every month to help.
Around here you’d have to drive your kid to school or get up at 5am to eat together. The buses pickup at 6:15am to get all the poor kids to school for free breakfast. The buses used to pick up in time to get kids to class, but the free breakfast/ lunch crowd (I call them “Black folk”) complained that they had to drop their kids off early in order to get the free breakfast. Now everyone has to get up extra early.
I was always so jealous of the free breakfast/lunch crowd. They didn't know how good they had it. A free, warm meal of real food, while I had to eat cold sugar-covered cheerios and starve for an extra hour.
We didn't have that where I grew up, and I don't understand it at all. If you're setting up all this meal infrastructure at a school, you might as well just give the free food to all the kids. It's not like the wealthier families aren't strapped for time to cook meals anyway (as you noted). But if providing a meal for the kid is more a matter of money than time, then the right way to solve the issue is via food stamps / financial support to the families directly.
Having these large cafeteria things set up in the way you describe just seems like the worst of both worlds.
My family did this on the weekends. I remember fondly the breakfast my grandma would make on Saturday mornings whenever we visited for the weekend. Eggs, bacon, toast, sausage, orange juice. So good. Sometimes it was pancakes too.
Back in the day in America, the wife cooked big breakfasts and took the dishes, the kids had safe school buses, the dad had a 9-5 that provided stable, comforting income to feed, entertain & fund college & vacation for the whole family.
30 years later, both parents are pushed to work harder and more stressful, for longer hours, while barely breaking even.
We only have breakfast together on weekends. No one has time to do this during the week with work and school. They only do this on TV because it's a convenient way to film everyone together and have them all talking to each other.
When I was a kid I'd ask for dinners like this wehre I'd say things like "pass the gravy" but it was never the case. Fast-foward to today and I hate eating with people. I only eat while watching kino ALONE.
Same, I don’t understand how people can eat in large groups of like 10+ people like in movies and TV, it’s just so stressful and an uncomfortable experience overall. I have no problem eating with my mother, I can stomach eating with both my parents on holidays, but once I have to eat in a group of like 5 people, people that I know so I have to make conversation with them and play their elaborate social games/tests and can’t just eat, it’s like taking a fricking calculus final while making a public speech all while trying to shovel down mashed potatoes. Genuinely can’t comprehend how people eat like that I’d probably be anorexic if I had to eat every meal like in
im surprised you even have cornflakes in europe. "Breakfast cereral" only became a thing because American/Australian ellen white got hit in the head with a rock and started having seizures where she spouted bible stuff and people thought that when she said grains were in the bible it meant that you should eat more grains and the frickin adventist church set about selling grains as a breakfast food. This was only like 100 years ago and the church still owns the major cereal company in australia
I didn't know about this story. Still, even if it started as crazy religious (downright heretical) nonsense, you must admit that cornflakes and milk is a killer combo. So good I'm almost inclined to believe that woman was onto something. Maybe God actually went "guys, you're missing such a great opportunity here", and then sent that crazy b***h to teach us the Way
I will not admit that and you can't coerce me into saying it. Don't reply to me again.
You're literally the first person I've ever seen slandering the cornflakes+milk combo. So weird
Europe slowly but surely adopts all of America's great successes. They've been awfully recalcitrant about root beer and peanut butter in their homelands, but it's only a matter of time. These two products have had a 100% conversation rate on the dozens of Euros I've known here. Thus, I believe that root beer is having trouble because of anti-sugar and -junk-food social repression over there, and peanut butter because they just genuinely don't know how to eat it and almost all of them dogmatically follow traditional recipes and brook no changes.
But don't worry, Eurobros. If you won't come to Flavortown, we'll take Flavortown to you. We do it because we love you and want you to be happy.
Everyone usually had breakfast offset a few minutes from others based on morning schedules but if you don't have most dinner with a family group that's bad