I like furry, slightly anime & indie. Indie is really cute for SFW SoL pieces. There's one artist who is really good at this, who is he, again? With the gay canine gifs.
Hate toony, though, honestly not into 90's WB cartoon art styles in general.
Cocadope, Repoghost, and FreneticWolf come to mind for this style for me, i dont recall seeing any gifs by them but hopefully you get something out of them anyway at least
Auth-Right:
-Pre 1960’s Theatrical Shorts
-Traditional Disney Movies
-Richard Williams
-“John K was right, the craft is king”
Lib-Right:
-CGI Features
-Puppet Rig 2D
-Cost-Cutting Corporate Minimalism
-“Princess and the Frog proved that nobody wants 2D anymore”
Centrist:
-Anime (Everyone likes Anime for some reason)
-“I just want to start at Volume 1 and not think about it”
Auth Left:
-Rotoscope
-Euro Animation (French/Slav/Irish)
-Stop Motion
-Reanimated Collabs
“The soul of the creative team is what matters the most”
Lib-Left:
-Globohomosexual Artstyle
-Twitter/Tumblr/Webcomics
-Machinima/YTP/Other kinds of remixing
-Newgrounds
-Underground Comics
-Rule 34 culture
“How can we push the envelope?”
>Auth-Right: >Pre 1960’s Theatrical Shorts
You're an idiot
You’re kneejerk reacting to specific aspects and not the overall concept.
Auth-Right: Hierarchical objectivism with a focus on craft and execution
Lib-Right: Market sensibility and corporate art
Centrist: I just want to grill and watch what I like
Auth-Left: The craft is more about the soul of the work than the execution
Lib-Left: Art is about pushing boundaries and making the status quo uncomfortable.
Yeah of course Murdoch Murdoch would fall under lib-left in this chart, because it’s boundary pushing and anarchism in art, and some traditional animation was very anti-Nazi. Can you see my point though?
>Auth-Right: Hierarchical objectivism with a focus on craft and execution >Auth-Left: The craft is more about the soul of the work than the execution
Let me guess, you got this garbage of a long jobless baby boomer hippie novelist writer with a useless university degree and no life practices. Dude, it's the same shit.
I think the right would be prefering Murata One Punch Man and the left would be webcomic One Punch Man. I’m not familiar with a good Cinemaphile related example though
>Centrist: >-Anime (Everyone likes Anime for some reason)
Only on an anime website could you say this.
A lot of people distrust or hate anime either because of how trash it is or because they're a normie who heard it's porn and made for/creates paedophiles.
It gets worse when you delve into "kemonomimi" where it's just triangle muzzles on moeblob/beanhead all the way down like an aborted Pokémon or Digimon copy.
According to the chart, The hardcore american animation public skews auth-right or Lib-Left, not centrist, and the industry skews Lib-Right.
Outside of the US you have a much larger appreciation of anime on average (South America, Islamic countries, Europe especially Nords, Italians and the French, and all asiatic nations). Also it helps that i’ve seen commies, fascists, libertarians and anarchists all embrace anime as PFP.
That would make anime “Radical Centrist” or “Anti-Centrism” which is the donut theory (connecting all extremists but alienating the centrists). Centrism would be not caring about animation.
>Anime belongs in centrist
Nah. And the more I look the more the chart smells.
Anime is auth-left. Left for how it's pirated by everyone and panders to the lowest of people. Auth for how awful it is to its workers.
Rotoscope is another cost cutter so belongs in lib.
Euro Anim is true to its source material, so is right. Similarly stop motion is traditional and strict, so is right.
Reanimation collabs are always lib/anarch left, never auth because they are never done by actual studios.
Globohomosexual is not lib-left, whether it's beanmouth or corporate. The other ones in that part I agree with but PUSHING THE ENVELOPE is NEVER what libleft does let alone newgroundshit.
>Anime is auth-left. Left for how it's pirated by everyone and panders to the lowest of people. Auth for how awful it is to its workers.
thats a fricking moronic way of classifying things
Pokemon and Digimon don't really fit the "Kemono" style though. Like, you can draw them in that style, but they're a weird mish-mash of different styles due to having multiple artists working on their designs.
>Pokemon and Digimon don't really fit the "Kemono" style though.
That's my point. The kemonowhatever looks like an aborted version of styles that were at least functional.
Digimon at least tried muzzles sometimes. Pokemon at least tried muzzles sometimes.
Kemono says "Frick trying".
Pic related is also kemono. Some kemono artists are just shit at drawing animal characters and they just end up looking like homogenized moeblobs with button noses.
>Putting globohomosexual art style in the same box as all the other shit in libleft >Reanimated collabs in auth left >Rule 34 culture not in the middle when they're clearly the most wildcard out of all of these
Is this a stealth politics thread?
Frick it, I like Toony more than anything. Also, I hate furries because I like anthro characters, but furries make it weird.
Also, I feel like I'm lefty, but I'm further to the right than most lefties.
this chart is stupid because there is no example of any transitory styles or examples to give reference to what the hell they even mean outside of very poor examples. Also yiff in hell.
If a realistic artstyle is chosen, for the love of god, DON'T PUT PAWPADS ON THE HANDS. This is fine with more cartoony styles, but with a more realistic one it either looks awkward or fetishy.
Though, personally, SWAT Kats's artstyle was pretty solid.
>Auth-Right: >Art is Objective Quality, Might Makes Right
No, the more """right""" people use God or Nature or Facts&Logic to justify. Whatever God or Nature or Facts&Logic say is right, is right. "Everything is subjective, there is only power to enforce one's subjective values" is the farthest left/Vaush position.
That’s kind of what i’m getting at. Mid-auth right is appeal to God or Nature, but full Auth-right is appeal to objectivist thought “there is only one way, the best way”. Left is about expression or artistic intent or message.
Pawns for ideologies cannot create art, no matter their stripe.
Mostly because artists hate restrictions and are spurred by the moment or what is convenient, aka rule of cool not rule of rule.
>The undamaged bronze elk statue was removed for cleaning and safekeeping on July 2, 2020. >In February 2022, city officials confirmed plans to reinstall the statue on Main Street by early 2023.
I can't tell if this is better or worse than modern sculpting.
Oh and 'Merica needs to fix its shit.
Tried my best.
>art is the artist >fantastic mr fox adaptation
...?
i think everyone can agree cereal mascot style (top right) is the worst
There's a very specific criteria for furry and it's largely "You know it when you see it" and "An OC drawn by one person".
Nothing in that image is furry. >Disney
Corporate product >Looney/Scrooge
Corporate product >top right, left, bottom
Bugmen don't have souls, they cannot be furries for they do not know what a human is. Sonic is NOT furry, he just encourages autism and recolours, which looks a lot like furrydom >Avatar
Corporate product, furry-adjacent species rebel plot, no-one likes humans with animal noses >Toaster
Heaven's above, being a furry is more than being permanently depressed, it's about depicting happiness even if you cannot obtain it
>assigning dumb labels to art
Am I the only one who thinks everything is too passive and complex for this to actually be meaningful in any serious way?
Yes. Even single political decisions are too complex to be reduced to a two-dimensional graph.
>Auth-Right: >Art is Objective Quality, Might Makes Right
No, the more """right""" people use God or Nature or Facts&Logic to justify. Whatever God or Nature or Facts&Logic say is right, is right. "Everything is subjective, there is only power to enforce one's subjective values" is the farthest left/Vaush position.
Still waiting for Antifa to produce anything artistic.
does it ever get tiring, being so goddamn obsessed with politics all the time? or do you lack the soul to be exhausted at this point?
Craftsmanship unguided by market forces leads to incestuous circle-jerks. But without craftsmanship market forces lead to lowest-common-denominator rubbish. Both are equally important.
Intent however is meaningless relative to form. Art is meant to communicate and if your shitty form inhibits the ability of your audience to interpret your message then what good are your intentions?
Because this is very hard, and I care more about presenting an ideological spectrum on art than assigning "commie core" "Fash core" Anarcho core" and "Corporate core".
Where's he fall on the list?
Also >Cerebus in authleft
What makes you say that? Not sure I understand a lot of picks in there though so I'm kinda moronic
The charts are a meme and don't represent anything insightful. And unfortunately, your attempt to fix it doesn't work either. The inherit issue from these graphs is that there is an implicit "opposite" from one form to another. Which isn't necessarily true for these categories.
Here is an example that breaks the graph. Let's say you have a taste that is as follows:
100% Toon
100% Furry
100% Indie
What is the range of points you can put with just these 3 descriptions? Answer: There is only one, the origin.
This is a problem. Because you can have a 0% taste to anime. Or an 100% taste to anime. Any precent of taste between 0%-100% will still land you exactly at the origin because of the other 3 restrictions already in place. Thus, this representation doesn't work with all variations of people.
Source: Math major
Correct, however general classifications are useful for broad discourse. If no two artists can be grouped generally, then one could say Dragonball and Pokemon are as similar as Dragonball and Spongebob.
>toony
best, god tier >furry
most common but if it's cute its cute >indie
i really like this style actually but the people who draw it tend to be annoying as frick >anime
dogshit. genuinely nip kemono artists tend to be memorable but western artists drawing furry but anime are the most bland and uninspired of them all. post some more template adoptables and YCHs why dont you
Toony
Car-TOON
Should be obv
LOL, this chart is so moronic it could have only been bait.
God do I hate the "furry" style. That shit is offputting and completely dominated fetishes.
>made for sex is... le bad
>Western furry
>Hybrid furry
>Lazy furry
>Weeb furry
I would call blue "new school Western furry" and green "classic Western furry".
I'm fine with any but anime.
>western furry
That's hybrid and/or near professional/consumer/non-furry standard. Second one is western.
Took me forever to see you got rid of his angry expression.
Eric Schwartz is peak sovl
This kind of shit. I literally only like this kind of shit. Everyone else can frick off.
SABRINA SEXO
This is the best furry aesthetic. Way better than the overly constructed fursuit variety.
Based I don’t like furry stuff but this stuff is so good
>furry
>furry
>furry
>furry
fixed your furry
NO he has to be EVEN ANGRIER
Lol nice
anime but less stereotypical
POLOTCAL COMPASS
it's the future that the entire industry wants us to live in
Whoever drew this doesn't know how charts work.
Bottom left is featured in exactly one singular game. Bottom right doesn't actually look like anime furries. Shit graph.
I like furry, slightly anime & indie. Indie is really cute for SFW SoL pieces. There's one artist who is really good at this, who is he, again? With the gay canine gifs.
Hate toony, though, honestly not into 90's WB cartoon art styles in general.
Jib Kodi
Not him, but thank you.
He has more of a flat, angular style you would see in some cartoons. Kind of reminiscent of Night in The Woods.
Cocadope, Repoghost, and FreneticWolf come to mind for this style for me, i dont recall seeing any gifs by them but hopefully you get something out of them anyway at least
>Cocadope
THAT'S HIM! Thank you!
No problem glad to help
I've actually commissioned him before (pic unrelated), love his stuff
Why is this a political compass? There's like a hundred ways this could've been formatted which would've made more sense.
What are these axis supposed to represent?
Auth-Right:
-Pre 1960’s Theatrical Shorts
-Traditional Disney Movies
-Richard Williams
-“John K was right, the craft is king”
Lib-Right:
-CGI Features
-Puppet Rig 2D
-Cost-Cutting Corporate Minimalism
-“Princess and the Frog proved that nobody wants 2D anymore”
Centrist:
-Anime (Everyone likes Anime for some reason)
-“I just want to start at Volume 1 and not think about it”
Auth Left:
-Rotoscope
-Euro Animation (French/Slav/Irish)
-Stop Motion
-Reanimated Collabs
“The soul of the creative team is what matters the most”
Lib-Left:
-Globohomosexual Artstyle
-Twitter/Tumblr/Webcomics
-Machinima/YTP/Other kinds of remixing
-Newgrounds
-Underground Comics
-Rule 34 culture
“How can we push the envelope?”
Put reanimated collabs in Lib-Left and Globohomosexual art in Lib-right and you have a consistent animation political compass.
Fair.
You’re kneejerk reacting to specific aspects and not the overall concept.
Auth-Right: Hierarchical objectivism with a focus on craft and execution
Lib-Right: Market sensibility and corporate art
Centrist: I just want to grill and watch what I like
Auth-Left: The craft is more about the soul of the work than the execution
Lib-Left: Art is about pushing boundaries and making the status quo uncomfortable.
Yeah of course Murdoch Murdoch would fall under lib-left in this chart, because it’s boundary pushing and anarchism in art, and some traditional animation was very anti-Nazi. Can you see my point though?
>Auth-Right: Hierarchical objectivism with a focus on craft and execution
>Auth-Left: The craft is more about the soul of the work than the execution
Let me guess, you got this garbage of a long jobless baby boomer hippie novelist writer with a useless university degree and no life practices. Dude, it's the same shit.
Based Horseshoe theorist
I think the right would be prefering Murata One Punch Man and the left would be webcomic One Punch Man. I’m not familiar with a good Cinemaphile related example though
>Auth-Right:
>Pre 1960’s Theatrical Shorts
You're an idiot
There are more schools of though on the auth-right than nazism.
>Centrist:
>-Anime (Everyone likes Anime for some reason)
Only on an anime website could you say this.
A lot of people distrust or hate anime either because of how trash it is or because they're a normie who heard it's porn and made for/creates paedophiles.
It gets worse when you delve into "kemonomimi" where it's just triangle muzzles on moeblob/beanhead all the way down like an aborted Pokémon or Digimon copy.
According to the chart, The hardcore american animation public skews auth-right or Lib-Left, not centrist, and the industry skews Lib-Right.
Outside of the US you have a much larger appreciation of anime on average (South America, Islamic countries, Europe especially Nords, Italians and the French, and all asiatic nations). Also it helps that i’ve seen commies, fascists, libertarians and anarchists all embrace anime as PFP.
That would make anime “Radical Centrist” or “Anti-Centrism” which is the donut theory (connecting all extremists but alienating the centrists). Centrism would be not caring about animation.
Anime belongs in centrist, but i’d also add “I don’t watch cartoons” as an alternative if you want to scoop up normalgays.
>Anime belongs in centrist
Nah. And the more I look the more the chart smells.
Anime is auth-left. Left for how it's pirated by everyone and panders to the lowest of people. Auth for how awful it is to its workers.
Rotoscope is another cost cutter so belongs in lib.
Euro Anim is true to its source material, so is right. Similarly stop motion is traditional and strict, so is right.
Reanimation collabs are always lib/anarch left, never auth because they are never done by actual studios.
Globohomosexual is not lib-left, whether it's beanmouth or corporate. The other ones in that part I agree with but PUSHING THE ENVELOPE is NEVER what libleft does let alone newgroundshit.
>Anime is auth-left. Left for how it's pirated by everyone and panders to the lowest of people. Auth for how awful it is to its workers.
thats a fricking moronic way of classifying things
Pokemon and Digimon don't really fit the "Kemono" style though. Like, you can draw them in that style, but they're a weird mish-mash of different styles due to having multiple artists working on their designs.
>Pokemon and Digimon don't really fit the "Kemono" style though.
That's my point. The kemonowhatever looks like an aborted version of styles that were at least functional.
Digimon at least tried muzzles sometimes. Pokemon at least tried muzzles sometimes.
Kemono says "Frick trying".
Pic related is also kemono. Some kemono artists are just shit at drawing animal characters and they just end up looking like homogenized moeblobs with button noses.
I'm lib-right
>Putting globohomosexual art style in the same box as all the other shit in libleft
>Reanimated collabs in auth left
>Rule 34 culture not in the middle when they're clearly the most wildcard out of all of these
>-Machinima/YTP/Other kinds of remixing
>-Newgrounds
>Lib-Left
Holy bait
Where do they fall, then? YTP especially absolutely strikes me as such
I'm guess I'm Auth-Right
>never heard of neo liberalism
zoomer
Cute e-girl there
Toony is my absolute favorite! My own art style resembles it most.
All four can be good if you know how to do it well, but it can just as well flop really hard if you aren't great at drawing.
Toony and furry, everything else is trash.
But isn't furry a subset of toony?
Is this a stealth politics thread?
Frick it, I like Toony more than anything. Also, I hate furries because I like anthro characters, but furries make it weird.
Also, I feel like I'm lefty, but I'm further to the right than most lefties.
this chart is stupid because there is no example of any transitory styles or examples to give reference to what the hell they even mean outside of very poor examples. Also yiff in hell.
What ever you call Steve ditkos style or Larry hamas
Can I say all of them?
>“indie” style
>“furry” style
This chart is fricking moronic.
flip Furry and Anime
If a realistic artstyle is chosen, for the love of god, DON'T PUT PAWPADS ON THE HANDS. This is fine with more cartoony styles, but with a more realistic one it either looks awkward or fetishy.
Though, personally, SWAT Kats's artstyle was pretty solid.
Auth-Right:
Art is Objective Quality, Might Makes Right
Lib-Right:
Art is what the industry says it is.
Lib-Left:
Art is anarchy, break tradition and find new horizons
Auth-Left:
???????
Art is community? Art is message?
The problem is REAL artistic communism has never been tried 😉
>Auth-Right:
>Art is Objective Quality, Might Makes Right
No, the more """right""" people use God or Nature or Facts&Logic to justify. Whatever God or Nature or Facts&Logic say is right, is right. "Everything is subjective, there is only power to enforce one's subjective values" is the farthest left/Vaush position.
That’s kind of what i’m getting at. Mid-auth right is appeal to God or Nature, but full Auth-right is appeal to objectivist thought “there is only one way, the best way”. Left is about expression or artistic intent or message.
Still waiting for Antifa to produce anything artistic.
>A-ANTIFA
Do you even know what Antifa is moron?
Pawns for ideologies cannot create art, no matter their stripe.
Mostly because artists hate restrictions and are spurred by the moment or what is convenient, aka rule of cool not rule of rule.
>The undamaged bronze elk statue was removed for cleaning and safekeeping on July 2, 2020.
>In February 2022, city officials confirmed plans to reinstall the statue on Main Street by early 2023.
I can't tell if this is better or worse than modern sculpting.
Oh and 'Merica needs to fix its shit.
>art is the artist
>fantastic mr fox adaptation
...?
There's a very specific criteria for furry and it's largely "You know it when you see it" and "An OC drawn by one person".
Nothing in that image is furry.
>Disney
Corporate product
>Looney/Scrooge
Corporate product
>top right, left, bottom
Bugmen don't have souls, they cannot be furries for they do not know what a human is. Sonic is NOT furry, he just encourages autism and recolours, which looks a lot like furrydom
>Avatar
Corporate product, furry-adjacent species rebel plot, no-one likes humans with animal noses
>Toaster
Heaven's above, being a furry is more than being permanently depressed, it's about depicting happiness even if you cannot obtain it
Yes. Even single political decisions are too complex to be reduced to a two-dimensional graph.
>Auth-Left:
>???????
You will watch it and you will be happy.
does it ever get tiring, being so goddamn obsessed with politics all the time? or do you lack the soul to be exhausted at this point?
>3 out of 4 isn't furry
That artist is moronic and coping hard.
Kemono stomps the rest. This is an objective fact.
This is hard, but a fun brain teaser! Any input?
Objective Form is Craft.
Objective Intent is Message.
Subjective Intent is The Artist.
Subjective Form is not the Market. Maybe "The Industry?"
Craftsmanship unguided by market forces leads to incestuous circle-jerks. But without craftsmanship market forces lead to lowest-common-denominator rubbish. Both are equally important.
Intent however is meaningless relative to form. Art is meant to communicate and if your shitty form inhibits the ability of your audience to interpret your message then what good are your intentions?
Tried my best.
Why is authright the only one that aligns with the actual taste of authright people?
Because this is very hard, and I care more about presenting an ideological spectrum on art than assigning "commie core" "Fash core" Anarcho core" and "Corporate core".
"art is the artist" too individualistic for commies; "art is for teaching" is a better descriptor of authleft ideology
Added the cartoons which shall not be named, which bring extremists together but shun out moderates.
Nichijou belongs somewhere
Where's he fall on the list?
Also
>Cerebus in authleft
What makes you say that? Not sure I understand a lot of picks in there though so I'm kinda moronic
According to that paradigm, he would be close to the top middle. Priority on Message and Craft, not Anarchy or Industry.
Still fricking weird how Disney was able to snag one of Crumb's characters.
i think everyone can agree cereal mascot style (top right) is the worst
>using Pokemon
Let's be fair. Pokemon has enough variety to cover the entire chart.
Just animals walking on hind legs > Kemono > Toony > Anime(as in this chart) > Indie > shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> furry
>assigning dumb labels to art
Am I the only one who thinks everything is too passive and complex for this to actually be meaningful in any serious way?
I think it's fun
The ability to label and differentiate denote cognition, thus intelligence.
moron
Anything with thick outlines.
No frick off with this moronic chart. This is more like this.
I'm curious for an example of the center of that Venn diagram.
Blacksad maybe? or BNA?
this is like the same fricking thing, midwit
The charts are a meme and don't represent anything insightful. And unfortunately, your attempt to fix it doesn't work either. The inherit issue from these graphs is that there is an implicit "opposite" from one form to another. Which isn't necessarily true for these categories.
Here is an example that breaks the graph. Let's say you have a taste that is as follows:
100% Toon
100% Furry
100% Indie
What is the range of points you can put with just these 3 descriptions? Answer: There is only one, the origin.
This is a problem. Because you can have a 0% taste to anime. Or an 100% taste to anime. Any precent of taste between 0%-100% will still land you exactly at the origin because of the other 3 restrictions already in place. Thus, this representation doesn't work with all variations of people.
Source: Math major
i like when it looks like fnaf
no such thing as "anime" style. or any of those styles really. just an individual artists' style.
Uh, no. It's been firm established that only 2 styles (anime and cartoon) exist. Sorry!!!
Correct, however general classifications are useful for broad discourse. If no two artists can be grouped generally, then one could say Dragonball and Pokemon are as similar as Dragonball and Spongebob.
Here is good for most 2d animations if you ask me.
>toony
best, god tier
>furry
most common but if it's cute its cute
>indie
i really like this style actually but the people who draw it tend to be annoying as frick
>anime
dogshit. genuinely nip kemono artists tend to be memorable but western artists drawing furry but anime are the most bland and uninspired of them all. post some more template adoptables and YCHs why dont you
Whatever Vanripper's style is
Toony, no contest.
10
Oh no, why is there a tiny ghost face leaking from their buttholes?
Copyright/signature marking
"anime" is not a style.
yes it is