Only seen the first three so far but 1 hands down. 2 and 3 are quality as well for their own reasons but 1 is an action/thriller classic
1 and 3
What is it about 1 that is so good?
Genuine question.
I have not watched it since probably the 90s, i tried to watch it sometime last year but it was so dated that I stopped watching it like 20 mins through.
Should I go back to it?
I remember MI2 being mediocre outside of the set pieces and the one that had him with his shitty love story wife was ghey
I dont have any websm but its not to hard to see, go whatch fallout then go back and watch MI1 and the whole feel of the movie is dated as frick.
Maybe it is mor of an issue because I watched teh more recnet movies then went back to MI1 after watched I think GP and RN.
Its not to hard to understand though. I mean go watch the newest bond movie then say goldeneye after and you can see the difference in tje feel of teh movie as they were done in different decades.
This would be exacerbated if it was one of the roger moore or connery movies, which are dated of course.
Irony here is goldeneye and well all brosnon bonds dont feel dated, not like MI1 felt to me.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Dude this 90s movies totally feels like it was made in the 90s and this is bad!
Why are morons like this?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>asks why it feels dated >explain why it feels dated >you are moron
Look homosexual I grew up in the 90s, I watched MI1 on release and played the game on N64 too, you look at goldeneye or starship troopers, neither of them feel dated but MI1 feels dated as frick.
From the clothes, camera work, camera tech, dialogue, editing, it all feels ancient in comparison to all the other MI movies, with I suppose the exception of MI2 as it stands on its own as a woo flick.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>From the clothes, camera work, camera tech, dialogue, editing, it all feels ancient in comparison to all the other MI movies
It doesn't though and you didn't explain shit, you just made vague allusions to feelings you had without any supporting examples.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't ask anything homosexual, I just think you're moronic for using words like "dated" as a criticism. It implies that modern movies are somehow superior to older films, or that every movie needs to be "timeless" to be good lol >THIS WAS MADE IN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD AND FEELS LIKE IT'S FROM THAT TIME PERIOD! THIS IS TERRIBLE! WHY CAN'T IT BE MORE LIKE MY RECENT NETFLIX MOVIES!
11 months ago
Anonymous
You do understand advances in cinema and movies are more than just being filmed in different eras or decades.
New tech, new systems and increasing in normas and qualities of how things are shot, or scriptwork change over time, often increasing in quality.
Again a movie like goldenye has not dated but MI1 (seemed to) have.
Maybe you are just too plebian to understand these things.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You can say the same about m:1 it s got more of the thriller aspect and stands alone as the typical de Palma movie.
3 don't remember enough about it and honestly don't think Abrams is much of an auteur, the rest of the series are modern producer led flicks with the director as an after thought and conforming
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know what to tell you. The camera work isn't dated. It's more of a thriller than an action movie and that's all I can assume your brain can register in terms of difference.
11 months ago
Anonymous
As someone who has watched 2500+ films I can tell you that in my opinion MI:1 has the most timeless qualities, including its cinematography. Brian de Palma also staged everything brilliantly, especially that first mission going FUBAR
11 months ago
Anonymous
On this comment alone I am gonna give it another trya, well give the whole franchse another go.
Again I went straight from GP/RN to MI1 after so that may have been a deciding factor for my thoughts on it being dated, in comparison.
I will start a thread in a day or 2 when I have watched at least 1-3
11 months ago
Anonymous
I've seen over 1000 movies since I've seen the first without rewatching it and I still can't get the shot of the female agent's bright green eyes out of my mind when I think of that movie. De Palma is a fantastic director and he was locked in during MI:1, hope you appreciate it for what it is anon
What's everyone's favourite moment from the series? Despite all the great action set pieces I think it's still this moment from the first when the original theme kicks in as he gets to stick it to Phelps and Krieger.
?t=41
Score...dated
CGI....dated
Even the shot in the pub with just extras doing nothing in the background, dated.
No movies other than independent amateur movies have shit like that in it now because of low budget.
You probably are just too plebian to recognize
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Score...dated
It's from the original tv series, dumbass. It's the one time they use it in the movie and it's a perfect moment to do so. >CGI....dated
Doesn't look any worse than anything made today. >Even the shot in the pub with just extras doing nothing in the background, dated.
No. >No movies other than independent amateur movies have shit like that in it now because of low budget.
Because budget equals quality, am I right? >You probably are just too plebian to recognize
Okay, I'm hoping this is just bait.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Okay, I'm hoping this is just bait.
You never know, I was in a thread yesterday with some anons that simply couldn't understand surrealism >yeah but what actually happened? >all of it >uhhhh but that doesn't make sense, that can't happen in real life >yeah, it's surreal >so what actually happened then?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It's from the original tv series
No it isnt you fricking idiot
11 months ago
Anonymous
What? Of course it is. It's the crescendo from the original theme. Up until then they'd only used the low key part of the theme. Am I being trolled?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>the melody of the MI TV series theme is the same melody as the score in the MI movie so it is the same
So this is the MI1 score too huh
?t=67
moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
>frogposter is a completely moronic plebian homosexual
Who would have thought
11 months ago
Anonymous
You went too obvious. Stop pretending to be moronic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You probably are just too plebian to recognize
How ironic
"Dated" is a meaningless grunt uttered by subhumans on comment sections, of course I don't gaf what it "means"
11 months ago
Anonymous
no it isn't. If you want to see "dated" just watch any of those teen movies from the 90s or 2000s. They make references that are no longer applicable in todays society. That's what makes them dated. If they were doing them ironically, or with an awareness of the times they were in, they they would be timely. But making direct references to things that only people of the time would understand makes them dated.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They make references that are no longer applicable in todays society.
Like what?
I was thinking about this earlier
Even with Cruise doing bigger, crazier and more dangerous stunts with each movie, pic related is STILL the greatest set piece in the series
imagine if some one proposed this iconic set piece in a modern movie >A GUY HANGIN FROM CEILING? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? COME ON MAKE IT hand to hand COMBAT IN A CARGO HOLD OF 2 COLLIDING CGI AIRPLANES LIKE THAT MARKY MARK MOVIE! OR THE OTHER MARKY MARK MOVIE WITH GAY HOLLAND! OR THAT LAST TERMINATOR MOVIE, OR THAT VIN DIESEL MOVIE! OR THAT OTHER VIN DIESEL MOVIE! OR..
Yeah man, modern movies suck ass. They probably would have had Tom Cruise fight the bad guy on top of a train while a helicopter followed them through a tunnel or some over-the-top bullshit like that
>pic related is STILL the greatest set piece in the series
mogged by underwater scene no contest
iconic tom scruise MI scene order goes underwater scene > plane hanging > running from sandstorm > jumping to building and breaking leg > motorcycle jumping towards each other scene > trapeze scene
did they even bother explaining why there were no cameras in that room? Watched it not that long ago but I found it funny how they have all these fancy security features for this room but they couldn't spring for fricking cameras?
rewatched it recently after years
it actually felt rather corny although still has its place in hollywood culture nonetheless i guess
i should rewatch 2 but i'm not a fan of john woo and chink shit
might as well just watch music video of take a look around and i disappear ffs
3 and 4 were fairly different
especially 3 i guess
fun stopped after that for me
5 and 6 are almost meme tier acting and production overall again corniness as the first
They're all good in different ways >MI 1 is an unmatched paranoid spy thriller >MI 2 is a terrible MI movie but is fantastic as a Brosnan-era Bond movie which is the vibe they were going for >MI 3 had the best villain and the biggest waste of a supporting cast >MI 4 is the best standalone film but had the weakest villain >MI 5 is probably the best overall, and is a better SPECTRE film than the actual Spectre movie >MI 6 is the best sequel and had the most satisfying 3rd act, if you're seen it you know what I mean
Christopher McQuarrie effectively ghost wrote MI 4, giving it a page 1 rewrite during filming and effectively saved the movie
he's been the one in charge of the franchise since then and you can absolutely tell
it always made me laugh how they made her a Bond girl femme fatale for Rogue Nation and even had that gratuitous bikini scene, when even then when she was barely 30 she was already prime wine-aunt/MILF-mode
not complaining
1 because i saw it as a kid and it's always entertaining to me no matter how many times i watch it.
2 was shit. 3 was underrated, with a great performance by PSH. 4, 5, & 6 i all felt were pretty equal in quality, which was high tier. overall no other franchise i can think of maintains such quality over a long period of time. cruisekino is real.
>directed by: JJ Abrams >written by: Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman
there is no reality where any film made by this unholy trio even approaches mediocrity let alone good
It's genuinely pretty good, and regardless of your thoughts on it, it did revive the series. 2 sucked so bad it killed the franchise.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it did revive the series
No it didn't, Ghost Protocol did. There wasn't another movie for 5 years after 3 and then everyone loved 4 which was also a box office hit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>2 sucked so bad it killed the franchise.
JJ please, 2 made over half a billion fricking dollars and was released over 20 years ago.
First two are a little dated for me now, 3 was forgettable. For some reason I just REALLY enjoyed 5 when I saw it in theaters, that bike/car chase was great. I just rewatched the last few with my fiance in anticipation of 7
What a spectacularly poor miscalculation. I guess it's reasonable to assume WoW had franchise potential, even though the movie was about a decade too late, but that's a terrible career move.
WoW was the highest grossing video game movie until Mario. It not getting sequels that people wanted more than they wanted the original story is completely moronic. Blizzard has been desperate to destroy itself for the last decade.
>WoW was the highest grossing video game movie until Mario.
Which would be impressive if it weren't for the budget and the fact that every other video game movie has been a turd that made frick all. $439 million from a $160 million production budget is barely a profit after marketing, if at all, especially considering it didn't even make $50 million domestically and that's the market in which they get the lion's share.
Ghost Protocol is better than the McQuarrie films.
In 4 you have people realistically (realistically for an action film) taking hits, getting injured, and there is also a good amount of blood. After this, the MI films become sanitized and injuries become an afterthought. I recently rewatched from 3 to 6 and noticed a stark difference in how the characters are treated and how they react to conflict.
A really example is the ending of Ghost Protocol. We see Ethan in that car parking lot fighting hand to hand with Kurt Hendricks while they vie for control of the nuclear football. It's a mortal struggle and neither of them are holding back, meanwhile they have to work around the cars moving around them as they are moved from one stall to another in the parking garage. During the fight, both Ethan and Hendricks take several major injuries and we see them react to them and act out how being injured is affecting their ability to move and fight. Eventually, Hendricks realizes he is checked and can't fight on, so decides to grab onto the nuclear football and dive bomb to the bottom of the car park intending to keep it out of Ethan's grip above else before he can intervene with what little time remains.
Ethan hobbles into a car, and drives it off a conveyor like a madman and lets it perform its own divebomb with him in the driver's seat. When he hits the bottom with the car, the air bag goes off and we can see that the crash has severely injured his face due to the bag and the force of the crash. He then crawls out of the vehicle, unable to do much more, and feebly tries to disable the nuclear weapon.
Then we skip to the very next film. Ethan literally dies, and it's treated as a joke. They only dwell on his motor functions being affected momentarily (he stumbles over the hood of a car instead of sliding over it), and then gets into an insane car chase that ends with him and Benji flipping end over end, slamming into everything to no injury to either of them.
I like 4, but they are like Diet Bird movies. Pretty much no blood. No one acts like they just got the shit kicked out of them. No one takes severe injuries despite the fact that they should have. Fallout is the closest to this Ghost Protocol, and it's none of the main cast who are in trouble. Even Benji hops up like nothing happened after he is choked to death by the noose.
>Taking Mission Impossible films this seriously
I chalked it up to adrenaline being able to go from motor functions being fricked to being able to go on high speed chase.
>Even Ferguson looked hot as frick, but in other movies/shows there's something off about her.
She always looks good to me. If it weren't for her I would've shut off that godawful Snowman movie. I was mad when they killed her. Frick me, that was shit.
white women get a +5 to charisma when they have blonde hair and are wearing older european styles.
put this gal in "modern" clothes ie tshirt/jeans hanging out in a starbucks with brunette hair and you wouldn't even turn your head
>Even if he has gay homosex recreationally
Don't see what the problem with this is? Not my ass he's fricking and if anything just means less competition for the rest of us
What's everyone's favourite moment from the series? Despite all the great action set pieces I think it's still this moment from the first when the original theme kicks in as he gets to stick it to Phelps and Krieger.
The Focus is no longer on a team of talented agents working in unison to bring down the bad guy. It's not Mission Impossible. It's just a zombie wearing it's skin.
barrel/silencer sticking out will be easier to spot, esp shiny one. and its some .22-whatever with light recoil. and that shooting stance is more sexo anyway
There are tons of classics that aren’t good. You’ve just been conditioned to watch them over time. A Christmas story, fight club, titanic, Halloween, ghostbusters, Top Gun, …list could go on forever
Top Gun: Maverick and The Usual Suspects are both great, Edge of Tomorrow is criminally underrated, and Valkyrie is pretty good too. Plus he's basically just Tom's handler now, so if you want Cruise kino, you have to go though Chris
I saw The Way of the Gun years ago and liked it then. Ryan Phillippe punching that israelite b***h Sarah Silverman right in the face was such a great opening.
1 is comfy, much more investigative and more of a thriller
2 is shlock, feels like a weird fever dream. It has its fans but I personally hated it, I can't stand cheesy action
3 is not bad, but feels kind of forgotten. PSH is really kino in it
4 has the best balance of every aspect
5 is a little predictable, but still great, mommy Ferguson steals the show and you will immediately jerk off to milf porn after watching it
6 is fun, non-stop action, but probably could have used more time to slow down
MI4 contained a really hot fight scene, plus it's a fantastic movie all round. That's my favorite followed by MI1 as that had a clever, if insane, plot that made them feel like covert spies rather than the action heroes they are now.
Fallout was just a really good action movie all around, but also a really good entry into MI building off what came before. Maybe Dead Reckoning dethrones it, but it's tops for me at the moment. Lately they just seem to get better and better.
I just watched all of them again in the last month >2 is still the worst, the bike chase at the end makes up for a lot of it, but the plot is stupid >4 was not as good as I remember it >6 is probably the best one, it's got the best stunts, best villains, and the quadruple double cross scene is great
3 did the absolute sin of making Tom do some operation but then you only see 2 side operatives sitting in a car talking about their past for a few minutes
When he stole the rabbit's foot and then jumped out of the building? The chase after is really cool but I remember being bummed I didn't get see him actually swipe it
I absolutely love the first Mission: Impossible film but lost interest after 3. Brian De Palma is my favorite Director and what was great about his flick was that it focused on subterfuge and espionage while the chunnel chase was mindblowing at the time.
The idea was that Cruise was going to bring in a new Director for each movie and allow them to give it their own style as opposed to the cookie cutter Bond films. Oliver Stone was supposed to do M:I-2 but bailed because Cruise was being held hostage by Kubrick on Eye Wide Shut whose shooting dragged on and on.... so Stone left the project and it was probably for the best as I didn't want to see a PG-13 Oliver Stone film. De Palma is known for excessive violence but with The Untouchables, another TV adaptation, he showed that he could deliver a movie fraught with tension and suspense without being too graphic and visceral. But Stone has no filter and I wouldn't have wanted to see him on a leash which is exactly why I hate M:I-2....
John Woo became known for his Hong Kong action flicks like Hard-Boiled and The Killer and made his transition to North American mainstream cinemas with the generic Jean Claude God Damn movie Hard homosexual but hit his stride with 1996's Broken Arrow and 1997's Face/Off which helped him reach the peak on the industry. Once done with EWS Cruise was in a rush to get another M:I movie made because he had been off the screen since 1996.
So he hired Woo and off they went to Australia to shoot it for who knows what fricking reason as that place is a barren wasteland filled with wombat fricking kangaroo molesting former penal colony inbred spawn that has nothing to offer visually or geographically and why it was perfect for George Miller's post-apocalyptic Mad Max films which didn't need to do much to convince audiences that Max was living is a desolate hellscape filled with degenerate scum of the fricking earth.
Anywho, they were in a race to get the movie done which resulted in constant re-writers causing it to go over budget and schedule which is why it ended up coming out in the summer of 2000. It was a massive hit but I was disappointed because I wanted full on WOO-HOO and got mediocre WOO-POO, however, the one good thing to come out of it is that because shooting went on for soo long Dougray Scott, who played one of the least threatening effeminate villain phucboi's to ever disgrace the screen, had to drop out of Bryan "I frick twinks" Singers first X-Men movie as Wolverine and thank frick because that zero charisma non-entity would have sucked harder than the event horizon of a black hole or Harry Knowles mouth at a buffet.
In 2006 Cruise came back with M:I-3 and played it safe from there on out. He hired Jar Jar "wienernose" Abrams to Direct, based on his pilot for LOST, and his cabal of typewriter monkey's Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman to script what was a rip-off of True Lies, with Ethan Hunt's girlfriend not knowing he was a spy, and the usual mystery box Macguffin that they can't even be bothered to explain why it's soo important, IT JUST IS OKAY SO SHUT YOUR FRICKING FILTHY prostitute MOUTH AND STOP ASKING QUESTIONS OR I WILL END YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU LOVE, GOT THAT wienerSUCKER!?!
After that the movies' settled into what felt like generic Tom Clancy escapades with Hunt now having a team of his own that would follow him from there on out while picking up a few new members along the way. One of the things that was daring about the first M:I was that they killed most of the team but haven't snuffed a single one since then which robs the films of any real dramatic weight that although they try to save as many people as they can, that doesn't mean everyone, including themselves.
Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol was released in 2011 and Directed by Brad Bird, famous for being a former Simpsons writer but also the creator of the much loved animated features The Iron Giant and Pixar's The Incredibles yet had never Directed a live action feature before. Regardless the movie was a hit and bucked the trend of diminishing returns as usually happens with sequels. Problem is that it started having that generic feel creeping in which continued with the next two films Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation and M:I - Fallout, both of which were Directed by Christopher McQuarrie, most famous for winning a Best Screenplay Oscar for for The Usual Suspects (Directed by the before mentioned Bryan "ten is too old" Singer) when Andrew Kevin Walker's script Se7en was superior.
McQuarrie has absolutely no vision or style which is why his M:I movies, although successful, are just bland actions films that I couldn't get invested in. M:I-3 was the last movie of this franchise that I saw at the theater but I'm tempted to see Dead Reckoning Part 1 simply because of good word of mouth (along with the casting of Pom Klementieff and Hayley Atwell fapfapfap) but it apparently also ties into the first movie somewhat with Henry Czerny (who played Eugene Kittridge, the director of IMF in M:I-1) returning and feels like Cruise is trying to bring everything full-circle while I'm willing to bet that after M:I - DR 1 & 2 he's looking to retire the series as he's not getting any younger and probably doesn't want it to go the way of Indiana Jones and the Dilator of Dysentery.
So I'm willing to give this movie a shot especially after seeing Top Gun Maverick which was both entertaining and satisfying while I never did care for the original but it's sequel was a refreshing reminder that stories don't need to be complicated, just told in a simple way with earnestness and sincerity without the current ironic/sarcastic/nihilistic SJW trash dedicated to tearing down and deconstructing every legacy character in cinema, especially if they're a white straight male, and why Feminazi's and the media were attacking the movie and calling it Right Wing Nazi Incel Chud Maga Trump supporter propaganda because it drove them fricking insane that they weren't able to destroy something people care about by polluting it with identity politics like they have with everything else from movies to tv shows, videogames, comic books and Western Civilization in general.
So it's important that Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning 1 & 2 are successful as it will counter the media narrative that movies starring white straight men are failures as Kathleen Kennedy sought out to prove by deliberately sabotaging Solo and Indiana Jones 5 by creating production chaos and spending soo much money that there was no way either would be able to make a profit while both being complete and utter fricking shit that didn't draw in audiences which is why they bombed.
Anywho, they were in a race to get the movie done which resulted in constant re-writers causing it to go over budget and schedule which is why it ended up coming out in the summer of 2000. It was a massive hit but I was disappointed because I wanted full on WOO-HOO and got mediocre WOO-POO, however, the one good thing to come out of it is that because shooting went on for soo long Dougray Scott, who played one of the least threatening effeminate villain phucboi's to ever disgrace the screen, had to drop out of Bryan "I frick twinks" Singers first X-Men movie as Wolverine and thank frick because that zero charisma non-entity would have sucked harder than the event horizon of a black hole or Harry Knowles mouth at a buffet.
But at least it had a cool soundtrack.
In 2006 Cruise came back with M:I-3 and played it safe from there on out. He hired Jar Jar "wienernose" Abrams to Direct, based on his pilot for LOST, and his cabal of typewriter monkey's Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman to script what was a rip-off of True Lies, with Ethan Hunt's girlfriend not knowing he was a spy, and the usual mystery box Macguffin that they can't even be bothered to explain why it's soo important, IT JUST IS OKAY SO SHUT YOUR FRICKING FILTHY prostitute MOUTH AND STOP ASKING QUESTIONS OR I WILL END YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU LOVE, GOT THAT wienerSUCKER!?!
After that the movies' settled into what felt like generic Tom Clancy escapades with Hunt now having a team of his own that would follow him from there on out while picking up a few new members along the way. One of the things that was daring about the first M:I was that they killed most of the team but haven't snuffed a single one since then which robs the films of any real dramatic weight that although they try to save as many people as they can, that doesn't mean everyone, including themselves.
Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol was released in 2011 and Directed by Brad Bird, famous for being a former Simpsons writer but also the creator of the much loved animated features The Iron Giant and Pixar's The Incredibles yet had never Directed a live action feature before. Regardless the movie was a hit and bucked the trend of diminishing returns as usually happens with sequels. Problem is that it started having that generic feel creeping in which continued with the next two films Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation and M:I - Fallout, both of which were Directed by Christopher McQuarrie, most famous for winning a Best Screenplay Oscar for for The Usual Suspects (Directed by the before mentioned Bryan "ten is too old" Singer) when Andrew Kevin Walker's script Se7en was superior.
McQuarrie has absolutely no vision or style which is why his M:I movies, although successful, are just bland actions films that I couldn't get invested in. M:I-3 was the last movie of this franchise that I saw at the theater but I'm tempted to see Dead Reckoning Part 1 simply because of good word of mouth (along with the casting of Pom Klementieff and Hayley Atwell fapfapfap) but it apparently also ties into the first movie somewhat with Henry Czerny (who played Eugene Kittridge, the director of IMF in M:I-1) returning and feels like Cruise is trying to bring everything full-circle while I'm willing to bet that after M:I - DR 1 & 2 he's looking to retire the series as he's not getting any younger and probably doesn't want it to go the way of Indiana Jones and the Dilator of Dysentery.
So I'm willing to give this movie a shot especially after seeing Top Gun Maverick which was both entertaining and satisfying while I never did care for the original but it's sequel was a refreshing reminder that stories don't need to be complicated, just told in a simple way with earnestness and sincerity without the current ironic/sarcastic/nihilistic SJW trash dedicated to tearing down and deconstructing every legacy character in cinema, especially if they're a white straight male, and why Feminazi's and the media were attacking the movie and calling it Right Wing Nazi Incel Chud Maga Trump supporter propaganda because it drove them fricking insane that they weren't able to destroy something people care about by polluting it with identity politics like they have with everything else from movies to tv shows, videogames, comic books and Western Civilization in general.
So it's important that Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning 1 & 2 are successful as it will counter the media narrative that movies starring white straight men are failures as Kathleen Kennedy sought out to prove by deliberately sabotaging Solo and Indiana Jones 5 by creating production chaos and spending soo much money that there was no way either would be able to make a profit while both being complete and utter fricking shit that didn't draw in audiences which is why they bombed.
Ghost Protocol and it's not even close
Although Rebecca Ferguson in Rogue Nation is best girl
6 > 3 > 1 > 5 > 4 > 2
ghost protocol was shit
You think 3 is the second best. I couldn't care less what you think because you're clearly moronic.
Jesus christ first post absolutely the worst take ever on MI
MI 1
the plot twists were really really gay and almost ruined the movie for me
What is it about 1 that is so good?
Genuine question.
I have not watched it since probably the 90s, i tried to watch it sometime last year but it was so dated that I stopped watching it like 20 mins through.
Should I go back to it?
I remember MI2 being mediocre outside of the set pieces and the one that had him with his shitty love story wife was ghey
>i tried to watch it sometime last year but it was so dated that I stopped watching it like 20 mins through.
How the frick is it dated?
Felt dated, the cast, the camera work
How can a cast feel dated?
De Palma's camera work is part of what elevates it above the rest. In what way was the camera work dated?
I dont have any websm but its not to hard to see, go whatch fallout then go back and watch MI1 and the whole feel of the movie is dated as frick.
Maybe it is mor of an issue because I watched teh more recnet movies then went back to MI1 after watched I think GP and RN.
Its not to hard to understand though. I mean go watch the newest bond movie then say goldeneye after and you can see the difference in tje feel of teh movie as they were done in different decades.
This would be exacerbated if it was one of the roger moore or connery movies, which are dated of course.
Irony here is goldeneye and well all brosnon bonds dont feel dated, not like MI1 felt to me.
>Dude this 90s movies totally feels like it was made in the 90s and this is bad!
Why are morons like this?
>asks why it feels dated
>explain why it feels dated
>you are moron
Look homosexual I grew up in the 90s, I watched MI1 on release and played the game on N64 too, you look at goldeneye or starship troopers, neither of them feel dated but MI1 feels dated as frick.
From the clothes, camera work, camera tech, dialogue, editing, it all feels ancient in comparison to all the other MI movies, with I suppose the exception of MI2 as it stands on its own as a woo flick.
>From the clothes, camera work, camera tech, dialogue, editing, it all feels ancient in comparison to all the other MI movies
It doesn't though and you didn't explain shit, you just made vague allusions to feelings you had without any supporting examples.
I didn't ask anything homosexual, I just think you're moronic for using words like "dated" as a criticism. It implies that modern movies are somehow superior to older films, or that every movie needs to be "timeless" to be good lol
>THIS WAS MADE IN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD AND FEELS LIKE IT'S FROM THAT TIME PERIOD! THIS IS TERRIBLE! WHY CAN'T IT BE MORE LIKE MY RECENT NETFLIX MOVIES!
You do understand advances in cinema and movies are more than just being filmed in different eras or decades.
New tech, new systems and increasing in normas and qualities of how things are shot, or scriptwork change over time, often increasing in quality.
Again a movie like goldenye has not dated but MI1 (seemed to) have.
Maybe you are just too plebian to understand these things.
You can say the same about m:1 it s got more of the thriller aspect and stands alone as the typical de Palma movie.
3 don't remember enough about it and honestly don't think Abrams is much of an auteur, the rest of the series are modern producer led flicks with the director as an after thought and conforming
I don't know what to tell you. The camera work isn't dated. It's more of a thriller than an action movie and that's all I can assume your brain can register in terms of difference.
As someone who has watched 2500+ films I can tell you that in my opinion MI:1 has the most timeless qualities, including its cinematography. Brian de Palma also staged everything brilliantly, especially that first mission going FUBAR
On this comment alone I am gonna give it another trya, well give the whole franchse another go.
Again I went straight from GP/RN to MI1 after so that may have been a deciding factor for my thoughts on it being dated, in comparison.
I will start a thread in a day or 2 when I have watched at least 1-3
I've seen over 1000 movies since I've seen the first without rewatching it and I still can't get the shot of the female agent's bright green eyes out of my mind when I think of that movie. De Palma is a fantastic director and he was locked in during MI:1, hope you appreciate it for what it is anon
>How can a cast feel dated?
They're not making quips all the time!!!!
It's not at all, it has some of the best and most iconic shots and cinematography
>the close up of the green eyes
It's definitely an 90s movie with "high tech" dial-up internet scenes. Doesn't make it bad, just old
>movie set in a different time
>dated
you don't know what dated means you stupid frick
This. None of the technical qualities of MI:1 are dated
How can you look at this and not see it is dated
Score...dated
CGI....dated
Even the shot in the pub with just extras doing nothing in the background, dated.
No movies other than independent amateur movies have shit like that in it now because of low budget.
You probably are just too plebian to recognize
>Score...dated
It's from the original tv series, dumbass. It's the one time they use it in the movie and it's a perfect moment to do so.
>CGI....dated
Doesn't look any worse than anything made today.
>Even the shot in the pub with just extras doing nothing in the background, dated.
No.
>No movies other than independent amateur movies have shit like that in it now because of low budget.
Because budget equals quality, am I right?
>You probably are just too plebian to recognize
Okay, I'm hoping this is just bait.
>Okay, I'm hoping this is just bait.
You never know, I was in a thread yesterday with some anons that simply couldn't understand surrealism
>yeah but what actually happened?
>all of it
>uhhhh but that doesn't make sense, that can't happen in real life
>yeah, it's surreal
>so what actually happened then?
>It's from the original tv series
No it isnt you fricking idiot
What? Of course it is. It's the crescendo from the original theme. Up until then they'd only used the low key part of the theme. Am I being trolled?
>the melody of the MI TV series theme is the same melody as the score in the MI movie so it is the same
So this is the MI1 score too huh
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moron
>frogposter is a completely moronic plebian homosexual
Who would have thought
You went too obvious. Stop pretending to be moronic.
>You probably are just too plebian to recognize
How ironic
"Dated" is a meaningless grunt uttered by subhumans on comment sections, of course I don't gaf what it "means"
no it isn't. If you want to see "dated" just watch any of those teen movies from the 90s or 2000s. They make references that are no longer applicable in todays society. That's what makes them dated. If they were doing them ironically, or with an awareness of the times they were in, they they would be timely. But making direct references to things that only people of the time would understand makes them dated.
>They make references that are no longer applicable in todays society.
Like what?
no fortnite.
because M1 is a spy movie. everything else are basically just action movies
I think this is a big part of what I mean
It was more dialogue heavy, more character focused etc
I Rewatched yesterday after MANY years and it’s great dude. Not dated at all
Only dated bits are Tom going into usenet groups and emailijg max or whatever lol.
Also, 6 is overrated. TOO MUCH action.
4 is the best balanced and fun.
I was thinking about this earlier
Even with Cruise doing bigger, crazier and more dangerous stunts with each movie, pic related is STILL the greatest set piece in the series
imagine if some one proposed this iconic set piece in a modern movie
>A GUY HANGIN FROM CEILING? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? COME ON MAKE IT hand to hand COMBAT IN A CARGO HOLD OF 2 COLLIDING CGI AIRPLANES LIKE THAT MARKY MARK MOVIE! OR THE OTHER MARKY MARK MOVIE WITH GAY HOLLAND! OR THAT LAST TERMINATOR MOVIE, OR THAT VIN DIESEL MOVIE! OR THAT OTHER VIN DIESEL MOVIE! OR..
Yeah man, modern movies suck ass. They probably would have had Tom Cruise fight the bad guy on top of a train while a helicopter followed them through a tunnel or some over-the-top bullshit like that
>pic related is STILL the greatest set piece in the series
mogged by underwater scene no contest
iconic tom scruise MI scene order goes underwater scene > plane hanging > running from sandstorm > jumping to building and breaking leg > motorcycle jumping towards each other scene > trapeze scene
>Cruise did it for real
>the cgi still makes it look fake as frick
No, just no
did they even bother explaining why there were no cameras in that room? Watched it not that long ago but I found it funny how they have all these fancy security features for this room but they couldn't spring for fricking cameras?
rewatched it recently after years
it actually felt rather corny although still has its place in hollywood culture nonetheless i guess
i should rewatch 2 but i'm not a fan of john woo and chink shit
might as well just watch music video of take a look around and i disappear ffs
3 and 4 were fairly different
especially 3 i guess
fun stopped after that for me
5 and 6 are almost meme tier acting and production overall again corniness as the first
>it was so dated
what? you didn't understand all the pop culture references?
1 > 6 = 4 > 5 > 2 > 3
I'll accept any tier list as long as 3 is last place
I've been in quite a few MI threads over the years and from my experience any other film other than 3 being ranked last is extremely rare.
I hate israelite israelite Abrams but MI3 was a spy thriller with a kino villain
Only seen the first three so far but 1 hands down. 2 and 3 are quality as well for their own reasons but 1 is an action/thriller classic
6>4>1>5>2>3
I’m watching through these with my dad and he stood up starting with this scene. Then he got closer to the tv when she was in the pool kek
They're all good in different ways
>MI 1 is an unmatched paranoid spy thriller
>MI 2 is a terrible MI movie but is fantastic as a Brosnan-era Bond movie which is the vibe they were going for
>MI 3 had the best villain and the biggest waste of a supporting cast
>MI 4 is the best standalone film but had the weakest villain
>MI 5 is probably the best overall, and is a better SPECTRE film than the actual Spectre movie
>MI 6 is the best sequel and had the most satisfying 3rd act, if you're seen it you know what I mean
Christopher McQuarrie effectively ghost wrote MI 4, giving it a page 1 rewrite during filming and effectively saved the movie
he's been the one in charge of the franchise since then and you can absolutely tell
it always made me laugh how they made her a Bond girl femme fatale for Rogue Nation and even had that gratuitous bikini scene, when even then when she was barely 30 she was already prime wine-aunt/MILF-mode
not complaining
>SPECTRE film than the actual Spectre movie
dude it's meme reddit era characters and villain ffs
do you really
respectfully
He's right
Spectre was garbage, all of Craig's films sucked other than Casino Royale
yeah and that's what i'm saying
comparing it to meme reddit cause the movie itself it's meme reddit
1 because i saw it as a kid and it's always entertaining to me no matter how many times i watch it.
2 was shit. 3 was underrated, with a great performance by PSH. 4, 5, & 6 i all felt were pretty equal in quality, which was high tier. overall no other franchise i can think of maintains such quality over a long period of time. cruisekino is real.
James Bond was good for over 30 years
true i suppose. but they were also great in their own, non-serious campy ways.
The longest continuous run of good bond films is about 4 or 5. Right at the start with Connery, or the Dalton - Brosnan transition.
4,5,6 are remarkably consistent movies. I’m excited for more cruisekino
>mi'kino
1 and 3
4 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 3 > 6
>most sites/reviewers have 3 above 2
>not a single person ITT has ranked 3 above 2 yet
Really makes you think
I don't like either, both John Woo and JJ Abrams are hacks
2 was shit as i said. 3 was underrated.
Thandie was hot though
3 is not underrated it sucks even more than 2
such a shit opinion, cast it into the fire.
PSH was the best part of the movie
He so often was.
>directed by: JJ Abrams
>written by: Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman
there is no reality where any film made by this unholy trio even approaches mediocrity let alone good
It's genuinely pretty good, and regardless of your thoughts on it, it did revive the series. 2 sucked so bad it killed the franchise.
>it did revive the series
No it didn't, Ghost Protocol did. There wasn't another movie for 5 years after 3 and then everyone loved 4 which was also a box office hit.
>2 sucked so bad it killed the franchise.
JJ please, 2 made over half a billion fricking dollars and was released over 20 years ago.
>Soundtrack by: Michael Giacchino
The OST's still great and you know it.
5 > 4 = 6 > 1 > 2 > 3
First two are a little dated for me now, 3 was forgettable. For some reason I just REALLY enjoyed 5 when I saw it in theaters, that bike/car chase was great. I just rewatched the last few with my fiance in anticipation of 7
Real question is who is your favourite MI: girl?
Ilsa. That's not hard. Jane's okay. No idea why Paula Patton left the franchise so quickly.
She chose to star in Warcraft instead lol
What a spectacularly poor miscalculation. I guess it's reasonable to assume WoW had franchise potential, even though the movie was about a decade too late, but that's a terrible career move.
WoW was the highest grossing video game movie until Mario. It not getting sequels that people wanted more than they wanted the original story is completely moronic. Blizzard has been desperate to destroy itself for the last decade.
>WoW was the highest grossing video game movie until Mario.
Which would be impressive if it weren't for the budget and the fact that every other video game movie has been a turd that made frick all. $439 million from a $160 million production budget is barely a profit after marketing, if at all, especially considering it didn't even make $50 million domestically and that's the market in which they get the lion's share.
I like how she kills the Asian "Mole" who turned out to be the informant the real "Mole" wanted to kill.
She dies in the new one
Why would you do that? I have so little and I was looking forward to this movie.
the first one of course
2 is great in ironic retrospect. Genuinely feels like you're watching Charlie's Angels at times.
>directed by John Woo
>written by the screenwriter of Chinatown
>has Anthony Hopkins
Based
Thats a weird looking vacuum cleaner
Ghost Protocol is better than the McQuarrie films.
In 4 you have people realistically (realistically for an action film) taking hits, getting injured, and there is also a good amount of blood. After this, the MI films become sanitized and injuries become an afterthought. I recently rewatched from 3 to 6 and noticed a stark difference in how the characters are treated and how they react to conflict.
A really example is the ending of Ghost Protocol. We see Ethan in that car parking lot fighting hand to hand with Kurt Hendricks while they vie for control of the nuclear football. It's a mortal struggle and neither of them are holding back, meanwhile they have to work around the cars moving around them as they are moved from one stall to another in the parking garage. During the fight, both Ethan and Hendricks take several major injuries and we see them react to them and act out how being injured is affecting their ability to move and fight. Eventually, Hendricks realizes he is checked and can't fight on, so decides to grab onto the nuclear football and dive bomb to the bottom of the car park intending to keep it out of Ethan's grip above else before he can intervene with what little time remains.
Ethan hobbles into a car, and drives it off a conveyor like a madman and lets it perform its own divebomb with him in the driver's seat. When he hits the bottom with the car, the air bag goes off and we can see that the crash has severely injured his face due to the bag and the force of the crash. He then crawls out of the vehicle, unable to do much more, and feebly tries to disable the nuclear weapon.
Then we skip to the very next film. Ethan literally dies, and it's treated as a joke. They only dwell on his motor functions being affected momentarily (he stumbles over the hood of a car instead of sliding over it), and then gets into an insane car chase that ends with him and Benji flipping end over end, slamming into everything to no injury to either of them.
this so much, I can't believe how people like McQuarrie slop after 4
I like 4, but they are like Diet Bird movies. Pretty much no blood. No one acts like they just got the shit kicked out of them. No one takes severe injuries despite the fact that they should have. Fallout is the closest to this Ghost Protocol, and it's none of the main cast who are in trouble. Even Benji hops up like nothing happened after he is choked to death by the noose.
>Taking Mission Impossible films this seriously
I chalked it up to adrenaline being able to go from motor functions being fricked to being able to go on high speed chase.
How come Vanessa Kirby looks like ass everywhere but in MI 5 she looks like the hottest woman in the world?
I want her to shit on my chest
i don't know but yeah she really made my pp hard in MI. probably lighting, makeup, and wardrobe done perfectly to highlight all of her good angles.
she's great in hobbs/shaw too
It has to be makeup/wardrobe department. Even Ferguson looked hot as frick, but in other movies/shows there's something off about her.
>Even Ferguson looked hot as frick, but in other movies/shows there's something off about her.
She always looks good to me. If it weren't for her I would've shut off that godawful Snowman movie. I was mad when they killed her. Frick me, that was shit.
>Me back when I worked in the office
hairstyle and nice white outfits
white women get a +5 to charisma when they have blonde hair and are wearing older european styles.
put this gal in "modern" clothes ie tshirt/jeans hanging out in a starbucks with brunette hair and you wouldn't even turn your head
Can't bruise the Cruise.
Even if he has gay homosex recreationally, he has a great eye for casting hotties and making sure they look like it.
>Even if he has gay homosex recreationally
Don't see what the problem with this is? Not my ass he's fricking and if anything just means less competition for the rest of us
She was a literal goddess in The Crown
>Vanessa Kirby looks like ass everywhere
?
she does look kinda goulish irl
I think she looks good here
Cute elf
nice try ferguson, she mogs you so hard it's not even funny
but then again, which woman in MI doesn't
I want her to be my mommy
Like Gal Gadot I don't watch films with this ugly b***h as the main female lead. She looks so fricking stupid.
>let's just hope they haven't met before
sexooooooooo
Beautiful creamy white legs sirs! How is foot game ?
>Beautiful creamy white legs sirs!
I fricking live for smooth beautiful smooth white legs.
1 is the most tense, Ghost Protocol is most entertaining
The later ones got too caught up in their boring-ass overarching plot.
Am I the only one who keeps mixing up mission impossible 4 and 5?
What's everyone's favourite moment from the series? Despite all the great action set pieces I think it's still this moment from the first when the original theme kicks in as he gets to stick it to Phelps and Krieger.
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Ghost protocol, but MI3 has the best villian with hoffman and is a close second.
>Ghost protocol,
I meant to rogue nation. I confuse these fricking titles.
The Focus is no longer on a team of talented agents working in unison to bring down the bad guy. It's not Mission Impossible. It's just a zombie wearing it's skin.
Nobody would snipe like this. You obviously would support your barrel to fence.
barrel/silencer sticking out will be easier to spot, esp shiny one. and its some .22-whatever with light recoil. and that shooting stance is more sexo anyway
it's all goyslop
i literally don't remember any of these movies. forgettable trash
How's Indy going, mouseshill?
ive never seen a single harrison ford film in my life
4,5,6 are all the same slop. 1 is a classic. 2 is shit. 3 is the only actual good one
>1 is a classic.
>3 is the only actual good one
There are tons of classics that aren’t good. You’ve just been conditioned to watch them over time. A Christmas story, fight club, titanic, Halloween, ghostbusters, Top Gun, …list could go on forever
1>6>4>3>2>5
imagine licking her cooch in that position while she struggles to keep the rifle straight
>Your mission, should you choose to accept it...
Anyone who thinks the JJ Abrhams directed film is better than the Brian de Palma directed film should never be allowed to post here again
3 is the worst film in the entire series, senpai
3 is way better than 2
>What’s your fav MI:kino?
The first one.
as far as i remember only thing i enjoyed by this guy is jack reacher movie perhaps
rest is all reddit for me
Top Gun: Maverick and The Usual Suspects are both great, Edge of Tomorrow is criminally underrated, and Valkyrie is pretty good too. Plus he's basically just Tom's handler now, so if you want Cruise kino, you have to go though Chris
>The Usual Suspects
oh shit
i somehow missed he did that too
frick it
it's all reddit shit for me sorry anon
I saw The Way of the Gun years ago and liked it then. Ryan Phillippe punching that israelite b***h Sarah Silverman right in the face was such a great opening.
My favourite is the new one that isn't out yet
Shadows, slow movement and softcore porn angles was key to presenting her and that leg as best as possible. I commend it.
1 > 3 > 5 > 2 > 4 > 6
2 > 3 > 4 > 1 > 6 > 5 > 7
1 is comfy, much more investigative and more of a thriller
2 is shlock, feels like a weird fever dream. It has its fans but I personally hated it, I can't stand cheesy action
3 is not bad, but feels kind of forgotten. PSH is really kino in it
4 has the best balance of every aspect
5 is a little predictable, but still great, mommy Ferguson steals the show and you will immediately jerk off to milf porn after watching it
6 is fun, non-stop action, but probably could have used more time to slow down
4>1>6>3=5>2
1 is the best. I can't even remember what happened in 4, 5 and 6. Completely bland and unmemorable.
next you're gonna tell me you wanna eat her c**t anon
Why do you all loathe 3 so much?
MI4 contained a really hot fight scene, plus it's a fantastic movie all round. That's my favorite followed by MI1 as that had a clever, if insane, plot that made them feel like covert spies rather than the action heroes they are now.
Imagine the fight turning into them hatefricking each other
I liked how they were supposed to use masks, but suddenly it doesn't work and they have to improvise.
That was funny, and the whole premise about authenticating the codes hinged on a briefcase fax machine.
Fallout was just a really good action movie all around, but also a really good entry into MI building off what came before. Maybe Dead Reckoning dethrones it, but it's tops for me at the moment. Lately they just seem to get better and better.
6 > 5 > 4 > 1 = 3 > 2
6 = 1 > 4 > 5 > 3 > 2
>16 inches
kek, too obvious to be effective bait but good for a chuckle, thanks anon
I just watched all of them again in the last month
>2 is still the worst, the bike chase at the end makes up for a lot of it, but the plot is stupid
>4 was not as good as I remember it
>6 is probably the best one, it's got the best stunts, best villains, and the quadruple double cross scene is great
3 did the absolute sin of making Tom do some operation but then you only see 2 side operatives sitting in a car talking about their past for a few minutes
When he stole the rabbit's foot and then jumped out of the building? The chase after is really cool but I remember being bummed I didn't get see him actually swipe it
Why do people rank 3 last? It has one of the best scenes of cruise running
JJ Abrhams and his mystery box formula probably
I absolutely love the first Mission: Impossible film but lost interest after 3. Brian De Palma is my favorite Director and what was great about his flick was that it focused on subterfuge and espionage while the chunnel chase was mindblowing at the time.
The idea was that Cruise was going to bring in a new Director for each movie and allow them to give it their own style as opposed to the cookie cutter Bond films. Oliver Stone was supposed to do M:I-2 but bailed because Cruise was being held hostage by Kubrick on Eye Wide Shut whose shooting dragged on and on.... so Stone left the project and it was probably for the best as I didn't want to see a PG-13 Oliver Stone film. De Palma is known for excessive violence but with The Untouchables, another TV adaptation, he showed that he could deliver a movie fraught with tension and suspense without being too graphic and visceral. But Stone has no filter and I wouldn't have wanted to see him on a leash which is exactly why I hate M:I-2....
John Woo became known for his Hong Kong action flicks like Hard-Boiled and The Killer and made his transition to North American mainstream cinemas with the generic Jean Claude God Damn movie Hard homosexual but hit his stride with 1996's Broken Arrow and 1997's Face/Off which helped him reach the peak on the industry. Once done with EWS Cruise was in a rush to get another M:I movie made because he had been off the screen since 1996.
So he hired Woo and off they went to Australia to shoot it for who knows what fricking reason as that place is a barren wasteland filled with wombat fricking kangaroo molesting former penal colony inbred spawn that has nothing to offer visually or geographically and why it was perfect for George Miller's post-apocalyptic Mad Max films which didn't need to do much to convince audiences that Max was living is a desolate hellscape filled with degenerate scum of the fricking earth.
Anywho, they were in a race to get the movie done which resulted in constant re-writers causing it to go over budget and schedule which is why it ended up coming out in the summer of 2000. It was a massive hit but I was disappointed because I wanted full on WOO-HOO and got mediocre WOO-POO, however, the one good thing to come out of it is that because shooting went on for soo long Dougray Scott, who played one of the least threatening effeminate villain phucboi's to ever disgrace the screen, had to drop out of Bryan "I frick twinks" Singers first X-Men movie as Wolverine and thank frick because that zero charisma non-entity would have sucked harder than the event horizon of a black hole or Harry Knowles mouth at a buffet.
But at least it had a cool soundtrack.
In 2006 Cruise came back with M:I-3 and played it safe from there on out. He hired Jar Jar "wienernose" Abrams to Direct, based on his pilot for LOST, and his cabal of typewriter monkey's Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman to script what was a rip-off of True Lies, with Ethan Hunt's girlfriend not knowing he was a spy, and the usual mystery box Macguffin that they can't even be bothered to explain why it's soo important, IT JUST IS OKAY SO SHUT YOUR FRICKING FILTHY prostitute MOUTH AND STOP ASKING QUESTIONS OR I WILL END YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU LOVE, GOT THAT wienerSUCKER!?!
After that the movies' settled into what felt like generic Tom Clancy escapades with Hunt now having a team of his own that would follow him from there on out while picking up a few new members along the way. One of the things that was daring about the first M:I was that they killed most of the team but haven't snuffed a single one since then which robs the films of any real dramatic weight that although they try to save as many people as they can, that doesn't mean everyone, including themselves.
Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol was released in 2011 and Directed by Brad Bird, famous for being a former Simpsons writer but also the creator of the much loved animated features The Iron Giant and Pixar's The Incredibles yet had never Directed a live action feature before. Regardless the movie was a hit and bucked the trend of diminishing returns as usually happens with sequels. Problem is that it started having that generic feel creeping in which continued with the next two films Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation and M:I - Fallout, both of which were Directed by Christopher McQuarrie, most famous for winning a Best Screenplay Oscar for for The Usual Suspects (Directed by the before mentioned Bryan "ten is too old" Singer) when Andrew Kevin Walker's script Se7en was superior.
McQuarrie has absolutely no vision or style which is why his M:I movies, although successful, are just bland actions films that I couldn't get invested in. M:I-3 was the last movie of this franchise that I saw at the theater but I'm tempted to see Dead Reckoning Part 1 simply because of good word of mouth (along with the casting of Pom Klementieff and Hayley Atwell fapfapfap) but it apparently also ties into the first movie somewhat with Henry Czerny (who played Eugene Kittridge, the director of IMF in M:I-1) returning and feels like Cruise is trying to bring everything full-circle while I'm willing to bet that after M:I - DR 1 & 2 he's looking to retire the series as he's not getting any younger and probably doesn't want it to go the way of Indiana Jones and the Dilator of Dysentery.
So I'm willing to give this movie a shot especially after seeing Top Gun Maverick which was both entertaining and satisfying while I never did care for the original but it's sequel was a refreshing reminder that stories don't need to be complicated, just told in a simple way with earnestness and sincerity without the current ironic/sarcastic/nihilistic SJW trash dedicated to tearing down and deconstructing every legacy character in cinema, especially if they're a white straight male, and why Feminazi's and the media were attacking the movie and calling it Right Wing Nazi Incel Chud Maga Trump supporter propaganda because it drove them fricking insane that they weren't able to destroy something people care about by polluting it with identity politics like they have with everything else from movies to tv shows, videogames, comic books and Western Civilization in general.
So it's important that Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning 1 & 2 are successful as it will counter the media narrative that movies starring white straight men are failures as Kathleen Kennedy sought out to prove by deliberately sabotaging Solo and Indiana Jones 5 by creating production chaos and spending soo much money that there was no way either would be able to make a profit while both being complete and utter fricking shit that didn't draw in audiences which is why they bombed.
That's all I've got for now!!!FACT!!!
Here's a (You) for the effort, namegay