What's your favorite episode? For me it's either Feat of Clay or any Ra's al-Ghul arc
What's your favorite episode? For me it's either Feat of Clay or any Ra's al-Ghul arc
What's your favorite episode? For me it's either Feat of Clay or any Ra's al-Ghul arc
Grey Ghost or the western one, they did a kino Jonah Hex episode iirc.
Threat Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndvdM468x4s
As a child, my favorite was Clayface because of the incredible animation. As an adult, it's Almost Got Him.
Gray Ghost was mentioned already, but it was pure kino. It somehow became the meta of itself. Genius.
That theme is absolutely wonderful. They took such care in making this show.
Perchance to Dream
The idea of being haunted by your own Jungian shadow.
And then the Inception ending.
It's great but I prefer the original story, and it's adaptation in JLU.
While I can see its influence, I think the TAS episode has enough differences to stand on its own.
In college English I read a short story that had the same plot but no superhero stuff. Just a regular human being operated on by aliens or future scientists or something
Perchance to Dream
Only correct answer
Definitely one of the more heartfelt episodes like this. Maybe the Twoface one when he's on the tower, or the Robbin going after his father's kiler?
Riddler’s Labyrinth
The scarecrow one with the blimp that takes on Thomas Wayne's face.
>I am vengeance, I am the night
The one where Joker starts stalking a guy who road raged him, until the guy snaps so hard that Joker begs for Batman's help.
Good artwork in that episode
The Riddler episodes are quite brilliant. How Batman "cheats" and hacks the big hand.
There's an episode where a mob boss or something places Batman in multiple traps in an attempt to get his cowl. It's been so long, I can't remember the exact episode. That or Almost Got Him.
>that ending where Batman reveals he was just trolling him the whole time
Great episode.
Cliche choice, but Perchance to Dream. Feat of Clay as a second favourite, Bullet for Bullock as a third.
>I can't remember the exact episode.
The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy
Almost Got'Im, Old Wounds or Over the Edge are the first that come to mind. There's some better ones for sure.
Two-Face is perfect and I wish they’d done a better job with his character in later episodes
The Man-Bat one was pretty good and it had that early bendy batmobile, awesome.
A weird choice to start the series with but it worked
It was very Edgar Allen Poe or Dickensian, Mary Shelley too.
It was more about the fricked up relationship of the scientist and his wife, obsession, Melville-esque.
Batman is an American literary giant.
There isn't enough Batman horror stories in adapted media, this is pretty close for a kids cartoon
The Laughing Fish
This.
Harley Quinn's "Joker Fish" ad
Plus the BTAS "Joker theme".
Both are out to lunch in an otherwise sober, dark series. Later cartoons would embrace this sort of amateur, loose kid friendly vibe. But in context to the ton of these early episodes they establish a kind of joyful carefree spirit for the Joker that works very well.
Fricking genius.
I like how at the end of the ad Joker just sits there with a grin for awkwardly long.
And the henchmen,
my sides.
Bullet For Bullock's pretty funny and the music in that ep was particularly great
Jokers favor and not because of harley. It was just some rando the joker was terrorizing
>Jokers favor
I do love Joker's Favor. The concept of getting cut off by a car on the highway and cursing at the guy only to look over and see that you just called the Joker a clown is great. The shot where he looks over and see's who's in the car is fantastic and then the Joker starts following his car....
I like the one where Batman stops an all out gang war by showing a mobster the error of his ways.
I like the one where Batman throws a batarang at guys with guns
Only great because it's in the early seasons with the great animation and tone.
The exact same plot in the later "Superman Adventures" would have been Brainiac slop.
Then again, 1995 is the year when cyber computer shit went from Asimovian to Slopimovian.
This is a very overrated show. Too many dull, forgettable eps peppered with the occasional great ep.
What's it like always being wrong about everything?
Either The Laughing Fish, Harley's Holiday, or Baby Doll.
You don't use the Cinemaphile sub for cartoons. There's a sub here specifically for toons: Wrong board
And there's no need to thank me, newfren. You're welcome.
I Am the Night. Existential crisis, Jim Gordon actually gets shot, touching scenes with the roses/Leslie.
Anyone with a good villain
Tried watching this a while ago but it was just so boring. Every episode follows the same format, there's no character drama to keep things interesting, it's just Batman confronts villain, almost gets killed, then catches villain. Over and over.
>character drama
what are you, a gay?
Seeing how characters interact is generally the easiest way to make a show interesting. Barring that, you need something like an interesting exploration of philosophical themes, outstanding animation, something like that. Just repeating the same villain conflict over and over again with different characters doesn't do that.
"The Batman" had a cool vibe but it was boring because it was just generic toon action. It didn't have enough STYLE in the Tartakovsky/Samurai Jack vein, but that was clearly the vibe it intended.
Batman: Brave and the Bold was better just for being out to lunch.
Batman TAS was fricking brilliant. It took the theme of tragedy and mixed it with the theme of unreasonable social pressure where the madness of the madman and the war of his psyche against an essentially equally mad society may be the cause of his madness. These themes then became the basis for character definition that informed short vignettes as these characters encounter the basic Batman archetype.
Batman, along with also the Joker, is hypersane. No, the Joker is hypersane, he is aware he's in a comic story. Batman is transsane. He is able to operate outside of his madness and tragedy, without being cured of either.
So he can intervene in the madness of others, and pull them out of the more severe harm it causes.
That's the basic premise.
Brink of sanity, pulled from the abyss. Variably compelling.
>"The Batman" had a cool vibe but it was boring because it was just generic toon action. It didn't have enough STYLE in the Tartakovsky/Samurai Jack vein, but that was clearly the vibe it intended.
It still amazes me to see people defending that show. It's generic as frick. I was technically too young for BTAS but saw it on reruns and The Batman just didn't compete. Unambitious slop.
They're vignettes. I bet you think Samurai Jack is boring.
>Every episode follows the same format
They make this clear in the series bible which is worth a read, even if you didn't like the series.
With a few exceptions they stuck rigorously to the three-act structure. Which is pretty impressive for a 20-minute cartoon that told a complete story from start to finish.
>there's no character drama to keep things interesting
What about the origin stories (usually two-parters) where characters go through arcs? Two-Face becomes Two-Face, Robin's Reckoning which is about his family being murdered and him seeking revenge (conflict with Batman etc). The Mr. Freeze episode came up that whole tragic backstory, instead of the goofy 60s/Arnie version.
That one's a weird opinion anon. And I don't think you could get much more out of 20 minutes or two 20 minute episodes. There's a lot of pathos and conflict between characters.
Just some overlooked ones here. Not the best but let's not overlook them.
1) Harvey Dent no two-face whatsoever, in Pamela Isley's origin story
2) Where the Joker kidnaps the mayor's son and acts like a genuine psycho
3) "It's Never Too Late" where Batman makes a mob boss wake up to his error of his ways
4) Poison Ivy and the health spa
5) Where Penguin is elevated by a socialite and almost reforms falling in love with her, only to hear that she thinks he's a joke and he immediately reverts to pure villain
6) "I am the Night" where he saves Gordon from an old grudge and revists his parents murder scene
7) Where the low level mobster is thought to have killed batman and is elevated to the top.
8) The Ventriloquist
9) Baby-doll, yeesh that was a disturbing one
10) Deep-freeze the proto-Bioshock
Honorable mention to "Robin Returns" with the famous motorcycle slide from Cartoon Network.
Note how Catwoman is in none of these mentions. Weird characters like Clock King are out too, although they're better and more interesting than some of the slop which came later.
>5) Where Penguin is elevated by a socialite and almost reforms falling in love with her, only to hear that she thinks he's a joke and he immediately reverts to pure villain
I love the yuppie socialite guy talking about how it was such a blast when the Joker crashed their party and held them hostage, or whatever. Gotham (the Fox series) did this sort of thing a few times. The city is just a frickin weird place to live, EVERYONE is a bit mad.
Arkham City was the peak of this. The weird subway tunnels to the old and buried world's fair that connected to a forgotten gothic architectural layer that is over a lazarus pit that ultimately explains why Gotham was settled.
That was cool.
The Lazarus pit is meant as a kind of miasmic influence to make everyone nuts.
>3) "It's Never Too Late" where Batman makes a mob boss wake up to his error of his ways
I already called DIBS
Another episode I really liked was I wanna say "P.O.V."? Where Bullock, Montoya, & some rookie have to give statements on The Batman showing up to their bust and all hell breaking loose.
The rookie was great because he believed Batman had magic powers (when in fact he was just using his gadgets).
I think it was after the redesign, but the one where the three kids see Batman in the distance then catch their own villain was cool.
It's derivative of POV and a couple other episodes, but cool. One of the few good redesign episodes.
The redesign season had that Ivy/Quinn episode, which was cool but I fricking hate it now since that one episode became the entire vibe of the last 8 years of DC movies. They wanted that vibe to happen so hard, when the cartoon episode did it 10 times better.
Harley and Ivy was an episode in the original series with the idea being revisited later.
That episode Harley was coy and needed coxing. Season 4 had TWO Harley X Ivy things and it was the full embrace of "Frick Joker" that the last 8 years of DC has tried to make a thing.
The original episode was more, "I'm sad Joker hates me, I guess I should try to do my own thing but it will be hard."
Some of the characters got downgraded during the redesign, but Scarecrow got a god tier redesign. Especially with Jeffrey Combs stepping in to voice him.
Eh, the redesign overall was just a step in the direction of this shitty clip art animation that's everywhere now and is almost satanic in the vein of Soviet or New Deal Democrat art.
The new scarecrow has a Solomon Grundy vibe but that's not the scarecrow. He's too swag in this, it's cool, but it's not him.
I fricking hate the redesign.
The original had a level of soul that has never been matched in animation.
Then again, the year 1995 was a huge vibe shift in everything.
The Underdwellers
Dreams in Darkness
Mad as a Hatter
Perchance to Dream
Feat of Clay
SubZero
Growing Pains
Beware the Gray Ghost
technically TNBA but Over The Edge
>ctrl+f Heart of Ice
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I'm disappointed in you Cinemaphile
Chill out, dude. Mr. Freeze had his very own thread this morning.
Damn, walkens as mr freeze would be kino if it was a burton movie.
Would have* been kino
Yeah I didn't include it because I assumed it was listed.
Go figure.
It wasn't super incredible though.
Mostly it took the "cold ray gun" guy and made him meaningful, and the animation was out of control.
The animator spray painted about 5000 Mr. Freeze helmets. Herculean.
Yes, it belongs in the annals of art, the museum of animation. No question.
Although things like this would become slop later, when Mr. Freeze uses his freeze gun to ascend a fire hydrant, that was pretty kino at the time.
His little snowglobe in jail was Paul Dino's entire reputation, though he continued to earn it.
Sad that his ability to manifest kino was neutered to woke shit, not his actual ability, so that ability was taken from us.
Goddamn, to imagine that GamerGate and DoD shit fricked up Kevin Conroy and Paul Dino, like just a fricking videogame. Frick.
They were almost certainly always liberal, the difference is that you didn't have access to their twitter back then.
The Lock-up episode already has the character whining about liberals being lax on criminals.
It's not actually that great, all things considered. It's a wonderful reimagining of Freeze, but the episode is marred with a lot of clumsy dialogue and jokes that don't really land. It is likely that the version of it you remember excludes all of the rough parts of the episode. If you rewatch it, you'll realise the good stuff is a very small fraction of the full thing.
The episode where the Andrew Ryan-esque businessman jailbreaks him is a better Freeze episode.
Mentioned here:
The animation on Mr. Freeze is sick though. Dude spray painted 5000 frames or something. Like the last act of an aging master animator.
Belongs in art history.
The brilliance of the lines
>a detective to the last
>think of it Batman
is that they imply Mr. Freeze considers Batman and his goofy ass outfit to be totally sane and completely understandable
These nutters all have some reason for being how they are so they understand exactly why the other nutters are how they are.
What was the one where they're all playing poker and discussing run ins with Batman?
Absolute kino
'Mad Love' (I even have the comic book for this) and 'Baby-Doll'. If the episodes from The New Batman Adventures is included, then I'll add 'Mean Seasons'.
With this show being a moderate success I hope we get an adult animated Batman show soon.
That show is total shite.
>saves the white child
>doesn't even let the blackie get a decent grip
What did he mean by this?
They meant
>Lois Lane is a Persian-hispanic
>Jimmy is black but he's still Jimmy
They're barely barely keeping the white superman thing together.
If they had nuts he'd be Eurasian, like Korean-Uralic.
Lois lane is asain, not hispanic
that episode with the priests brother who was a criminal and he gets redeemed and batman fights regular ass gangsters and has a tough time of it, the reason being there's no super villain and batman isn't some super autistic genius martial artist he does actually get is ass handed to him by regular guys who out number him, it feels alot more realistic of a story, there's no bullshit plot about a mime wanting to bomb the city with funny gas or whatever, it's a down to earth story with smaller stakes but still shows batman's core mission and values, my second favorite is the ones with the kids in the sewer working for rat king seeing batman almost snap was the best way to handle him in my opinion.
though if I had to choose one that was more fantastical I'd probably say perchance to dream or Zatanna
overall I'd say my favorite aspect of the show is how they really showed bruces emotions rather then just brooding, he gets mad, upset, hell he even jokes and shows fear when shit gets real or someone he cares for is in danger which he doesn't really do that much in the other shows or movies at all usually they go with the "hyper autistic who has no emotions stoic super genius" but there's more to him then that and btas does him more justice, hell him meeting up with gordon for a coffee every year was perfect, having him act like an actual fricking human being is what he needs to be.
When harley tried to go straight
>I'm sane, guys!
>proceeds to walk her hyenas
>no mention of Read My Lips
plebians all of you.
man, Bruce got so much action it's not even funny.
Yea, it is ridiculous
>Barbra
>zatanna
>Harley (it was a kiss but still)
>talia (technically raas in her body but it totally counts)
>wonder women
>cat woman
>the random flooseys
>poison ivy (purely for mind control but I'd say it counts)
>the chick from phantasm
there's probable others I've forgotten but god damn the guy could have a legit harem.
The inclusion bats telling her "I had a bad day too, once" took this from good to kino of the highest order.
I love even as an early episode it's anime as frick.
It was her last appearance in BTAS
Manchildren watching gayott ass cartoons
Cringe
Yeah dying of a stroke from too much whiskey after beating your dysgenic lying ass coalburning wife is much more manly than just watching a kino Aryan cartoon.
Still yet to be topped.
Better than the Mr. Freeze movie. It's good, but just not the same as the core Season 1 episodes. It's that same style so deserves praise.
Shirley Walker scored it.
it's a shame the phantasm didn't become a main stay villain.
That's the point.
It's the sort of villain that can only show up once and be defeated.
true but I meant more in other depictions/timelines/universes.
but maybe that'd cheapen the uniqueness of it a bit, so perhaps your right to let sleeping dogs lie.
Yeah no DC comic or nothin.
It's just Batman Returns
Not even
You can say it's better than Returns if you want but the stories are almost the same
Phatasm and Catwomans motivations and origins are completely different. The mob goes to Joker out of desperation in in MOTP and Max uses the Penguin for his own personal gain in BR. I don't see any glaring similarities.
Where he gets kidnapped and taken to that bum work camp. And Alfred has to save him and Alfred flies the Batwing and when he tells the Batwing to land The Batwing tells him "your funeral."