So is the cover taking a jab at Bendis and trying to reverse some of the damage done to Bobby by making him bisexual?
Because every other character I see there is bisexual except for him.
>acted like a bawd >turned out to just be an overcompensating virgin >seized up and had a panic attack as soon as she was about to have sex >revealed to have been an incel in her old life >now asexual
That doesn't sound like an asexual. That sounds like a 19 year old girl who just wasn't ready to have sex yet or her brain told her "No. Not with this person/not like this".
That's not asexual. That's how the majority of young women behaved for most of human history until being a prostitute became trendy.
Let’s be honest, no one fricking buys it. I bet most people thought she was either straight or bisexual based on her prior appearances. But some random butthole decided to make her ace in a bizarre story.
Good thing Iceman can reform his body, Hercules would shatter the shit out of that ass.
You assume Bobby is only a bottom. Though it makes me realize he's jumped between a few guys. >Romeo >Judah Miller >Daken >Pyro II (Simon Lasker) >Deadpool >Christian Frost >Hercules
To be fair, he's slept around with many women too. >Judy Harmon >Zelda Kurtzberg >Darkstar >Polaris >Cloud >Annie Ghazikhanian >Shadowcat >Opal Tanaka >Marge Smith (Mirage) >Mystique
>Like 70% of her character is about being in a relationship with spiderman.
Not to count all the modern influx of girl romance interests, remember when she fricked foreigner, flash thompson, wolverine, daredevil, marines, luke cage?
It's the same reason Catwoman is bisexual.
Yeah, 95% of the time Selina is sucking bat wiener so hard you'd think she was trying to extract the Wayne fortune from it.
But the other 5% of the time they want her to kiss girls because it's hot and generates conversation on twitter for a few days.
Felicia is in the same boat. Gotta keep that in the back pocket in case Polyamory ever takes off in popularity and we need a few panels of Felicia and Mary Jane making out on face time to get Peter home faster.
>being very obvious about not actually being interested in giving the less served groups you profess to be supportive of content they might actually want, like ongoings instead of this lame annual Message issue where you might get five pages of a character you like who isn't one of the popular girls who aren't known for their queer status anyway
probably not
Hercules died because of poison that wouldn’t stop hurting to the point where he built a fire to burn himself to death and now he’s sticking his dick in the ice so the relationship is overall toxic icy hot.
I don't understand it, before he was a character for readers with a cool head readers. but now, all that friction from the new authors undid him as a character...
Iceman was never cool. Iceman was never even popular. Iceman is just a plot device for certain writers to power wank and make the X-men seem like a serious powerhouse outside of Phoenix Force Jean. Then next arc arrives and Iceman got taken out by something mediocre like a flamethrower.
Iceman was never cool. Iceman was never even popular. Iceman is just a plot device for certain writers to power wank and make the X-men seem like a serious powerhouse outside of Phoenix Force Jean. Then next arc arrives and Iceman got taken out by something mediocre like a flamethrower.
That's what I've been saying. The weebs keep saying anime is the answer but anime is what help poison the autistic lesbos and gays that are ruining the western industry now.
It's just a cover, but credit to the artist for knowing his 1970's Marvel.
X-Men should only date A-List humans, so I'd rather not see Bobby slum it with C-List Hercules
Gay Bobby has been a waste similar to Ultimate Colossus, where's the romance, Iceman is just a twink sex pest hopping from dude to dude
They should have(and should still) killed Northstar's husband, at least him and Bobby have chemistry and history.
Doubt Kyle Jinadu will go anywhere anytime soon. I suspect if he were to be killed off, many would decry it as another case of “bury your gays”. Plus Jinadu’s ethnicity, it would be too much blow black if that were to happen. But I do agree, Iceman and Northstar would make a more compelling pair. Knowing what we saw years back with Jean-Paul’s one sided crush on Bobby. It would’ve been interesting if that had been addressed when Bobby was outed by Jean Grey.
It’s been almost ten years since Bendis had Jean Grey out him through her telepathy. For me, what’s done is done. Not thrilled to see how flanderized and stereotypical he’s become, nevertheless. I think Bobby should’ve bisexual at most. Hopefully Iceman and Hercules actually settle down and do something interesting together considering they were compatriots as the Defenders. Shame about Noh-Varr, guess him and Herc are no longer an item.
Why Bishop? Genuinely curious. The most recent thing I remember of those two interacting was during Iceman's solo. And Bishop wasn't having any of Bobby's antics.
Bishop and Iceman had a pretty fun (albeit forgotten) dynamic way back in the 90s. Bishop was often a straight man to Iceman's antics, while Iceman helped Bishop navigate present-day social customs.
Guess I'll have to check those issues then. From pic related it does seem like an entertaining dynamic. I just remember in Iceman's 2017 mini, Bishop was just done with Bobby and deservedly so.
Iceman would be my 2nd choice for Bishop, but him and Sage have too good of a dynamic to throw away, they're the Mulder and Skully of the Marvel Universe, somebody just need to give Lucas and Tessa a chance.
for Iceman ships, him and Chamber would be a good ship since they're polar opposites as characters and in the looks department, and since Chamber is British there's isn't any heavy lifting involved to make him gay or bi. Only problem is that X-Men shouldn't date students, well maybe, Warren was giving it to Paige Guthrie I guess.
Is Northstar just the Iron Man of gay ships? Always the first to come up when someone needs a gay ship to sail.
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Ok that’s kind of funny. Interesting turn of phrase. Sure that does come off as so. But I’d say it does have more credibility so to speak. Considering Northstar had a one-sided crush on Iceman in the late 90s and early 2000s. I remember seeing a panel somewhere, in it Nurse Annie suggests the idea that Bobby might be into men and doesn’t know it. Only for Jean-Paul to immediately dismiss it. Accepting that he will never have a chance to get with him. It makes me wonder what went through Northstar’s mind when Bobby was outed. I chuckle at the idea that he has a twinge of regret at second guessing his “gaydar”.
In this case "freaking out" isn't about people hating. It's referring to a small but vocal crowd being pleasantly surprised, to say the least. At the possibility of Iceman and Hercules, hooking up.
Is this all the same artist, or did some amateur come along after the nice work on everyone else and decide to add in their version of Magik and Forge drawn from memory after the fact?
Because newer writers want to push stupid fricking OCs and self inserts. But they fail to realize that nobody cares.
Let's just take two people from that cover who might never realistically date. If people see Felicia Hardy and Nico Minoru smashing clams, there is at least something to talk about. How did they meet? What attracted the wealthy white socialite and the gothy asian witch together? How are the power dynamics between them, given how Felicia is at least 10 years older than Nico and much wealthier? What do they talk about? Do their goals align? Do they fight crime together? How do they compliment each other in combat? Is Nico bothered by Felicia's sticky fingers? How does Felicia react if Nico shows up to her apartment one day with half her head shaved? Is there any genuine chemistry?
It's something a writer needs to challenge themselves with. But they don't like a challenge. They like easy. This is why instead you get >This is Nico's new love interest, Michelle. They are pansexual and gender fluid. Nico met them at a coffee shop where they are a barista. Their personality meshes well with Nico and there are no conflicts. Also they look like an attractive version of me."
Say they paired America Chavez together with FemLoki
They're friends, they're both currently single, and some of the time Loki is a woman
But there would be fans who get outraged. The AmeriKate truthers, the ones who prefer twink Loki fricking his brother, the leftists who just hate white people and think America should be with another brown girl
And since they belong to different franchises, America and Loki could get drawn into different books and then their new writers would have to acknowledge this relationship.
Imagine you're writing a Thor book and getting crucified by fans onljne because Loki isn't spending enough time with her Latinx girlfriend while other fans are constantly harassing you begging you to break them up
There's just no winning
OR - hear me out for a sec - just stop changing characters on a whim to chase an imaginary new audience.
Yes, which is why I mentioned Bobby and Jean-Paul would never get together. Because that would mean taking Kyle Jinadu out of the equation. That would certainly get a lot of backlash.
*blacklash
you think this will help them sell more comics?
Yup, sales are turning up any day now...
X men fans buy everything the x line puts out including the garbage.
Has the Krakoa shit been selling? I know Bobby's solo book about being gay sure didn't, or else it would still be going.
>*blacklash
You really think Marvel wouldn't be decried for splitting apart Kyle Jinadu and Northstar? Especially if they were to kill him off, they'd be called out for "burying their gays" or taking away a queer poc. >Has the Krakoa shit been selling?
Well it's coming to an end, what does that tell you?
>Well it's coming to an end, what does that tell you?
After... fricking hell, how many years has that garbage been going? Also it could be for cartoon/possible movie synergy.
>You really think Marvel wouldn't be decried for splitting apart Kyle Jinadu and Northstar?
Was just a pun. Honestly I'm okay with not messing with their marriage, for some reason Marvel hates those and supposedly Northstar was created as gay from the start anyway.
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>how many years has that garbage been going?
Since 2017, has it not? It does make sense with it likely being done to synergize with the films. Though I'll never get that, why change so much? It's not as if moviegoers will read the comics, at least not by and large. But at least it's Krakoa we're talking about. Its had enough spotlighting.
>Was just a pun.
My mistake then, I guess I must be dyslexic.
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Geez I hadn't expected to be that long, you sure it's not 2019?
And I'm sure Hercules would never frick shota buttholes, as we all know, the Romans were totally above that, unlike those filthy Greeks.
Definitely no Roman emperors or senators who were fricking little boys, or any other Roman myths that involve fricking little boys, no siree.
A Marvel superhero sure wouldn't. Well, at least before it became a literal no man's land.
It is rather annoying to introduce a brand new character that has hardly any substance to them beyond being the love interest. When it came to Bobby being outed by Jean. There could’ve been several avenues in which it could’ve been explored. Instead Marvel went with the most cookie cutter route possible.
>PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ THIS THROWAWAY ONE-PANEL JOKE OF A GENERALLY GOOD RUN THAT'S NOW THROWN AS AN EXCUSE FOR CHARACTER DERAILING
Go frick yourself with your woke friends.
>Makes a big deal about Bobby coming out and not being a joke >Make him another horny bawd sucking every dick he can get his hands on.
Might as well call him IceCream now. Even Soft Serve gets less frosted tips from her backside.
its the only accurate homosexual portrayal. there are no 'normal ones'. they are all degenerates with dozens of partners per year, bug chasing, aids infested freaks.
> Bobby a personality again other than flaming homo
This is the key part. It sucks that this is what his personality has been for nearly a decade after Jean outed him with her mind. It sucks that Noh-Varr might likely be out of the picture. But it would be interesting to see a relationship between Hercules and Iceman since they have known each other in their Champions days. Although if I had to choose a male love interest for Bobby it would have to be Northstar. But that will never happen.
Yes, which is why I mentioned Bobby and Jean-Paul would never get together. Because that would mean taking Kyle Jinadu out of the equation. That would certainly get a lot of backlash.
I do try to avoid eating pork, I am married, ii hate shaving, but many of these are minor rule that do not fully apply to non-jews(gentiles). but if you want to be perfect, try to be perfect, if not a ham sandwich is not going to send you to hell.
Homosexually however is specifically stated to be detestable.
Those are rules from the old testament, the same section as Sodom and Gomorrah and given the exact same amount of importance. So you sound like just another self serving pick and choose homosexual. Enjoy hell
3 months ago
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Moral laws are different than instructional rules.
3 months ago
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The bible describes eating animals as an abomination - strong words for "instructional rules". Also I hope you're out there stoning adulterers to death as the bible commands
3 months ago
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cows are boblicallysafe to eat because they have 4 parts to their stomachs that break down the rough food they eat. with so much processing they produce good meat. Pork is different as pigs tend to roll around in their own filth. There is a reason why pork needs to be cooke thoroughly, beef can be cooked rare and still remain safe. Good cuts of beef are easier to eat,
But these are dietary rules. meant to keep the israelites healthy and disease free, they are not moral spiritual laws
Hercules is the Roman idealization of Heracles, like most of the Greek stuff they borrowed
3 months ago
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And I'm sure Hercules would never frick shota buttholes, as we all know, the Romans were totally above that, unlike those filthy Greeks.
Definitely no Roman emperors or senators who were fricking little boys, or any other Roman myths that involve fricking little boys, no siree.
3 months ago
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it happened, but it was shunned
they acted similarly to the rich pedophiles of today
3 months ago
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>it happened, but it was shunned
Kinda like being gay.
Weird...
3 months ago
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I'm not denying it happend, I'm denying it was normalized or accepted
I literally just got finished with Astonishing Iceman and I don't think there is a single person on this planet who gives a frick about Romeo. I also don't think I've ever actually encountered Hercules in any Marvel comic. So I guess... go ahead?
Jesus was one of the first aromantic asexuals in recorded history, and had brown skin
by your own logic, Jesus was a homosexual Black person
but you don't actually believe in Jesus or God, you just have a heart full of hate
Jesus is God in the flesh, he does not need sex or anything of this earth. When he came to earth , maybe he did have dark skin, dark skinned israelites are a real thing today.
> I've ever actually encountered Hercules in any Marvel comic.
You never read the Champions? Well neither have I but I do know that Iceman and Hercules were compatriots on that team. So they have a history not romantic, obviously but familiarity still.
I don't care and have real world problems to get upset about.
Bobby Drake's a lucky man, I know that much.
fpbp.
Based.
Is this thread that you're clearly upset about a "real life problem"? Or is there some kind of exception just for Cinemaphile threads by da chuds?
>a bloo bloo bloo
W-why are you on a comics board then?
There are other forms of discussion to have about media that don’t require getting mad about which fictional characters are screwing eachother.
Is there really though? And it sounds like you do enjoy it a bit.
IDK, escapsim from real world problems?
most people's "clever retorts" are moronic if you actually think about them for two seconds
Im not into twinks
Isn't Iceman a twunk, how you call it?
Mythological ly-accurate Heracles.
Iceman isnt related to Hercules
Mythologically-inaccurate Heracles.
A mythologically accurate hercules would want a cute little boy, not a homosexual adult man.
Is that why he took Cho under his wing?
Cho being mistaken for Herc's eromenos was a joke in his comics.
>Hercules and I are just friends! The technical term is "adventuring companions." I am not his eromenos!
Mmm, no, if it was accurate Iceman would be a shota.
No
Iceman is not a twink. Anole is a twink. Hell, Reed Richards might actually be a closer to having a twink body.
So is the cover taking a jab at Bendis and trying to reverse some of the damage done to Bobby by making him bisexual?
Because every other character I see there is bisexual except for him.
Gwenpool is Asexual
Web Weaver is Gay
Karolina Dean is a Lesbian
>Gwenpool is Asexual
I don't buy that.
Face it, there is just no evidence of Gwenpool experiencing sexual feelings or desires in any way.
>acted like a bawd
>turned out to just be an overcompensating virgin
>seized up and had a panic attack as soon as she was about to have sex
>revealed to have been an incel in her old life
>now asexual
That doesn't sound like an asexual. That sounds like a 19 year old girl who just wasn't ready to have sex yet or her brain told her "No. Not with this person/not like this".
That's not asexual. That's how the majority of young women behaved for most of human history until being a prostitute became trendy.
She was literally doing that for views.
It's better than making her a trophy girl for random homosexuals in whatever team she's stuffed into.
Let’s be honest, no one fricking buys it. I bet most people thought she was either straight or bisexual based on her prior appearances. But some random butthole decided to make her ace in a bizarre story.
>She was about to bang Julie in her Power Pack get up when the writters came up with that atrocious retcon.
There's no way homie can handle like that lmfao. His butthole is getting fricking annihilated.
You assume Bobby is only a bottom. Though it makes me realize he's jumped between a few guys.
>Romeo
>Judah Miller
>Daken
>Pyro II (Simon Lasker)
>Deadpool
>Christian Frost
>Hercules
First time a gay comic character has ever represented the level of whoring most gay men do
To be fair, he's slept around with many women too.
>Judy Harmon
>Zelda Kurtzberg
>Darkstar
>Polaris
>Cloud
>Annie Ghazikhanian
>Shadowcat
>Opal Tanaka
>Marge Smith (Mirage)
>Mystique
>Cloud
>Mystique
That's probably when it started.
That's certainly been a feature in the decades of discourse on the subject before The Bendising.
Deadpool and Iceman hooked up?
Yes.
The panels are real, the dialogue clearly not.
he's gonna turn him from an ice cube into a snow cone
Good thing Iceman can reform his body, Hercules would shatter the shit out of that ass.
has it actually been confirmed that they're dating or is this just based off of the variant cover
And yes, it is funny that they were both teammates once
It's just a cover with all the non-straight characters, and absolutely no one is 'freaking out.'
They aren’t dating…yet. But I wonder how much of a spiral that would be if it does happen?
Herc's got onna those NSFW art lookin' nipples.
>Black cat
>Not straight
Like 70% of her character is about being in a relationship with spiderman.
The other 30%? Making out with chicks from her past.
>Failed super soldier project
>daddy issues
>master thief
>Like 70% of her character is about being in a relationship with spiderman.
Not to count all the modern influx of girl romance interests, remember when she fricked foreigner, flash thompson, wolverine, daredevil, marines, luke cage?
Because they are Marvel's premier couple.
They are?
kino
Non-canon.
too bad they wont let it happen
I'd like them to stay together, I'd say its rather biphobic to not allow her to have a long term and stable relationship with him.
It's the same reason Catwoman is bisexual.
Yeah, 95% of the time Selina is sucking bat wiener so hard you'd think she was trying to extract the Wayne fortune from it.
But the other 5% of the time they want her to kiss girls because it's hot and generates conversation on twitter for a few days.
Felicia is in the same boat. Gotta keep that in the back pocket in case Polyamory ever takes off in popularity and we need a few panels of Felicia and Mary Jane making out on face time to get Peter home faster.
you think this will help them sell more comics?
Comics?
X men fans buy everything the x line puts out including the garbage.
X-men fans are like Batman fans, they will continue to buy regardless of the quality of the book.
>being very obvious about not actually being interested in giving the less served groups you profess to be supportive of content they might actually want, like ongoings instead of this lame annual Message issue where you might get five pages of a character you like who isn't one of the popular girls who aren't known for their queer status anyway
probably not
You tell us.
All this gay shit sound like a real pain in the ass.
Stop being a dick.
>is Iceman really the pass around party bottom of the Marvel Universe
no that's Hercules
>Hercules broke Noh's heart
Damn
What a shame.
As long as you have the super fortitude to take the cold the ice is a natural lubricant.
>Gay X-Men fans.
They certainly are.
Hercules died because of poison that wouldn’t stop hurting to the point where he built a fire to burn himself to death and now he’s sticking his dick in the ice so the relationship is overall toxic icy hot.
I don't really like gay characters.
>Goes up your butthole/on your dick.
I remember when iceman was cool, now he gets fricked in the ass daily...
Yeah he was really cool not living up to his potential and constantly striking out with women. At least as a gay he's finally getting some action
I don't understand it, before he was a character for readers with a cool head readers. but now, all that friction from the new authors undid him as a character...
Iceman was never cool. Iceman was never even popular. Iceman is just a plot device for certain writers to power wank and make the X-men seem like a serious powerhouse outside of Phoenix Force Jean. Then next arc arrives and Iceman got taken out by something mediocre like a flamethrower.
> Iceman was never cool.
Are you sure about that? The name would imply otherwise.
Kek
He always was popular in the comics you moron
Hehe
I think you mean Hunkcules
>current year writers ship like yaoi fans
Yet again anime proves to influence everything in this shitty burger industry
That's what I've been saying. The weebs keep saying anime is the answer but anime is what help poison the autistic lesbos and gays that are ruining the western industry now.
I don't think you can say anime encourage yaoi when they call those women fujoshi (rotten women)
Don't blame fujos, this is annoying gay guy shit. If it was a real fujo, Herc would be fricking Amadeus Cho.
>this is annoying gay guy shit
Frick no us gays ship Herc with other bara guys like Logan (which was actually canon).
Pic related.
>And you're a power bottom.
No members question this?
Why would Jean just go nuts like that?
gross
Imagine destroying your brand to cater to a minority of a minority that spends all their money on adult daipers and aids medication.
it's not his underage nephew so it's not the worst thing he's stuck his dick in
Twinks are basically just gays flaunting their pedophilia right in your face.
Twink fetishism is coded pedophilia. I wish people would be brave enough to call out the gays for this
Maybe you should work out what a twink looks like if you're going to pretend not to be a fricking idiot.
They look like young teenaged boys, which they usually are. I think you should look up "gay death" and realize why it only really relates to twinks.
It's just a cover, but credit to the artist for knowing his 1970's Marvel.
X-Men should only date A-List humans, so I'd rather not see Bobby slum it with C-List Hercules
Gay Bobby has been a waste similar to Ultimate Colossus, where's the romance, Iceman is just a twink sex pest hopping from dude to dude
They should have(and should still) killed Northstar's husband, at least him and Bobby have chemistry and history.
Doubt Kyle Jinadu will go anywhere anytime soon. I suspect if he were to be killed off, many would decry it as another case of “bury your gays”. Plus Jinadu’s ethnicity, it would be too much blow black if that were to happen. But I do agree, Iceman and Northstar would make a more compelling pair. Knowing what we saw years back with Jean-Paul’s one sided crush on Bobby. It would’ve been interesting if that had been addressed when Bobby was outed by Jean Grey.
It’s been almost ten years since Bendis had Jean Grey out him through her telepathy. For me, what’s done is done. Not thrilled to see how flanderized and stereotypical he’s become, nevertheless. I think Bobby should’ve bisexual at most. Hopefully Iceman and Hercules actually settle down and do something interesting together considering they were compatriots as the Defenders. Shame about Noh-Varr, guess him and Herc are no longer an item.
The frick they doing bringing Hercules back to Earth. Leave him in space with cosmic Marvel and resurrect cosmic Marvel instead.
Oh right they turned the Greek gods into space pirates. FFS Marvel.
it's a variant cover, the actual cover is the Mystique and Destiny wedding
Makes only sense in a Spiderman and his amazing friends series!
That'd be nice to see.
You know I don't care
no one is freaking out. we dont want your dead medium marvel. frick off.
This is controversial, but I think Iceman should frick Bishop.
Why Bishop? Genuinely curious. The most recent thing I remember of those two interacting was during Iceman's solo. And Bishop wasn't having any of Bobby's antics.
Bishop and Iceman had a pretty fun (albeit forgotten) dynamic way back in the 90s. Bishop was often a straight man to Iceman's antics, while Iceman helped Bishop navigate present-day social customs.
Guess I'll have to check those issues then. From pic related it does seem like an entertaining dynamic. I just remember in Iceman's 2017 mini, Bishop was just done with Bobby and deservedly so.
Iceman would be my 2nd choice for Bishop, but him and Sage have too good of a dynamic to throw away, they're the Mulder and Skully of the Marvel Universe, somebody just need to give Lucas and Tessa a chance.
for Iceman ships, him and Chamber would be a good ship since they're polar opposites as characters and in the looks department, and since Chamber is British there's isn't any heavy lifting involved to make him gay or bi. Only problem is that X-Men shouldn't date students, well maybe, Warren was giving it to Paige Guthrie I guess.
>Iceman ships
Here's a random list of male characters I'd think Bobby Drake would be better off being with.
>Northstar
>Daken
>Angel
>Sunspot
>Havok
Is Northstar just the Iron Man of gay ships? Always the first to come up when someone needs a gay ship to sail.
Ok that’s kind of funny. Interesting turn of phrase. Sure that does come off as so. But I’d say it does have more credibility so to speak. Considering Northstar had a one-sided crush on Iceman in the late 90s and early 2000s. I remember seeing a panel somewhere, in it Nurse Annie suggests the idea that Bobby might be into men and doesn’t know it. Only for Jean-Paul to immediately dismiss it. Accepting that he will never have a chance to get with him. It makes me wonder what went through Northstar’s mind when Bobby was outed. I chuckle at the idea that he has a twinge of regret at second guessing his “gaydar”.
>since he's British there's no heavy lifting involved to make him gay
And now he's the literal straight man to his antics (homosexual)
>Freaking Out
Imagine needing to pretend people hate you in order to sell a book
In this case "freaking out" isn't about people hating. It's referring to a small but vocal crowd being pleasantly surprised, to say the least. At the possibility of Iceman and Hercules, hooking up.
Now I want a marvel-themed version of Waterhouse's Hylas And The Water Nymphs.
Oh wait no ahhh I'm so outraged nooo don't do this noo don't make the character gay haha
doa
Ew, gross.
>Article calls your children's comic character a bawd
Is this truly the kind of attention they want
I wanna see some twinked up ice bussy getting wrecked by chad greek demigod wiener. That's my opinion.
Uhhh... Based?
Firestar has bo business being any near the x-men.
you have no business being near Cinemaphile and posting
Is this all the same artist, or did some amateur come along after the nice work on everyone else and decide to add in their version of Magik and Forge drawn from memory after the fact?
It’s by the same artist from the OP’s pic. Russel Dauterman.
Can Marvel go one day without doing something fricking moronic?
gay x-men fans exist?
judging from what I’ve seen on other websites, like half of all X-men fans are some kind of queer
Why they gotta make my boy a fricking bug chaser?
Marvel really sucks dicks now.
Herc sees twink, he fricks twink.
Simple as.
>How could our medium decline? - thread #742900
At least it's not an OC character.
Why is it that comic LGBT-characters are paired by new characters out of the blue rather than characters with established histories?
Because newer writers want to push stupid fricking OCs and self inserts. But they fail to realize that nobody cares.
Let's just take two people from that cover who might never realistically date. If people see Felicia Hardy and Nico Minoru smashing clams, there is at least something to talk about. How did they meet? What attracted the wealthy white socialite and the gothy asian witch together? How are the power dynamics between them, given how Felicia is at least 10 years older than Nico and much wealthier? What do they talk about? Do their goals align? Do they fight crime together? How do they compliment each other in combat? Is Nico bothered by Felicia's sticky fingers? How does Felicia react if Nico shows up to her apartment one day with half her head shaved? Is there any genuine chemistry?
It's something a writer needs to challenge themselves with. But they don't like a challenge. They like easy. This is why instead you get
>This is Nico's new love interest, Michelle. They are pansexual and gender fluid. Nico met them at a coffee shop where they are a barista. Their personality meshes well with Nico and there are no conflicts. Also they look like an attractive version of me."
It's always a barista at a coffee shop. Perhaps it's the only thing the writers know.
There's less backlash
Say they paired America Chavez together with FemLoki
They're friends, they're both currently single, and some of the time Loki is a woman
But there would be fans who get outraged. The AmeriKate truthers, the ones who prefer twink Loki fricking his brother, the leftists who just hate white people and think America should be with another brown girl
And since they belong to different franchises, America and Loki could get drawn into different books and then their new writers would have to acknowledge this relationship.
Imagine you're writing a Thor book and getting crucified by fans onljne because Loki isn't spending enough time with her Latinx girlfriend while other fans are constantly harassing you begging you to break them up
There's just no winning
Just stop making super hero comics already.
OR - hear me out for a sec - just stop changing characters on a whim to chase an imaginary new audience.
*blacklash
Yup, sales are turning up any day now...
Has the Krakoa shit been selling? I know Bobby's solo book about being gay sure didn't, or else it would still be going.
>*blacklash
You really think Marvel wouldn't be decried for splitting apart Kyle Jinadu and Northstar? Especially if they were to kill him off, they'd be called out for "burying their gays" or taking away a queer poc.
>Has the Krakoa shit been selling?
Well it's coming to an end, what does that tell you?
>Well it's coming to an end, what does that tell you?
After... fricking hell, how many years has that garbage been going? Also it could be for cartoon/possible movie synergy.
>You really think Marvel wouldn't be decried for splitting apart Kyle Jinadu and Northstar?
Was just a pun. Honestly I'm okay with not messing with their marriage, for some reason Marvel hates those and supposedly Northstar was created as gay from the start anyway.
>how many years has that garbage been going?
Since 2017, has it not? It does make sense with it likely being done to synergize with the films. Though I'll never get that, why change so much? It's not as if moviegoers will read the comics, at least not by and large. But at least it's Krakoa we're talking about. Its had enough spotlighting.
>Was just a pun.
My mistake then, I guess I must be dyslexic.
Geez I hadn't expected to be that long, you sure it's not 2019?
A Marvel superhero sure wouldn't. Well, at least before it became a literal no man's land.
It is rather annoying to introduce a brand new character that has hardly any substance to them beyond being the love interest. When it came to Bobby being outed by Jean. There could’ve been several avenues in which it could’ve been explored. Instead Marvel went with the most cookie cutter route possible.
ITT:PEOPLE WHO HASN'T READ INCREDIBLE HULK BY GREG PAK FROM 2007 DURING WORLD WAR HULK.
nuff said true believers, also a gentle tip nod to my comicbooks reades.
>PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ THIS THROWAWAY ONE-PANEL JOKE OF A GENERALLY GOOD RUN THAT'S NOW THROWN AS AN EXCUSE FOR CHARACTER DERAILING
Go frick yourself with your woke friends.
Knock it off, Jean!
are the gay x-men fans in the room right now?
Yes, I’m looking right at (You).
>Makes a big deal about Bobby coming out and not being a joke
>Make him another horny bawd sucking every dick he can get his hands on.
Might as well call him IceCream now. Even Soft Serve gets less frosted tips from her backside.
its the only accurate homosexual portrayal. there are no 'normal ones'. they are all degenerates with dozens of partners per year, bug chasing, aids infested freaks.
/misc/ is the other way, bucko.
I'm tired of the queerness of the characters, we need a total reboot to destroy so many unnecessary characters and erase the gay
>pass around party bottom
This is why AIDS was created.
I don't really give a shit as long as they give Bobby a personality again other than flaming homo
HunkxTwink is a great pairing
> Bobby a personality again other than flaming homo
This is the key part. It sucks that this is what his personality has been for nearly a decade after Jean outed him with her mind. It sucks that Noh-Varr might likely be out of the picture. But it would be interesting to see a relationship between Hercules and Iceman since they have known each other in their Champions days. Although if I had to choose a male love interest for Bobby it would have to be Northstar. But that will never happen.
Didn't Northstar get married?
Yes, which is why I mentioned Bobby and Jean-Paul would never get together. Because that would mean taking Kyle Jinadu out of the equation. That would certainly get a lot of backlash.
Needs WAY more art of butt fricking between young Bobby and even younger Bobby to force me to wade through all those walls of text, pal.
Where did you even find these inks?
/co/, a long time ago.
Please be real.
Forced
Marvel flanderization of Hercules bisexuality and forced Iceman into becoming gay for reasons
Fair assessment.
HercuGay and Icegay are the dumbest ideas in comics.
Say what you will about Iceman but is it such a shock that Hercules of all characters, is bisexual?
I'm a Christian, and we strongly believe homosexuality is a sin , so yes I am shocked.
I'm sure you're equally horrified by consuming pig and shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics, trimming facial hair, divorce and premarital sex
I do try to avoid eating pork, I am married, ii hate shaving, but many of these are minor rule that do not fully apply to non-jews(gentiles). but if you want to be perfect, try to be perfect, if not a ham sandwich is not going to send you to hell.
Homosexually however is specifically stated to be detestable.
Those are rules from the old testament, the same section as Sodom and Gomorrah and given the exact same amount of importance. So you sound like just another self serving pick and choose homosexual. Enjoy hell
Moral laws are different than instructional rules.
The bible describes eating animals as an abomination - strong words for "instructional rules". Also I hope you're out there stoning adulterers to death as the bible commands
cows are boblicallysafe to eat because they have 4 parts to their stomachs that break down the rough food they eat. with so much processing they produce good meat. Pork is different as pigs tend to roll around in their own filth. There is a reason why pork needs to be cooke thoroughly, beef can be cooked rare and still remain safe. Good cuts of beef are easier to eat,
But these are dietary rules. meant to keep the israelites healthy and disease free, they are not moral spiritual laws
*biblically safe
Uhh, didn't Hercules frick his underaged nephew in the myth?
No?
Oh, excuse me, I was thinking of Heracles, which Hercules is based on.
Hercules is the Roman idealization of Heracles, like most of the Greek stuff they borrowed
And I'm sure Hercules would never frick shota buttholes, as we all know, the Romans were totally above that, unlike those filthy Greeks.
Definitely no Roman emperors or senators who were fricking little boys, or any other Roman myths that involve fricking little boys, no siree.
it happened, but it was shunned
they acted similarly to the rich pedophiles of today
>it happened, but it was shunned
Kinda like being gay.
Weird...
I'm not denying it happend, I'm denying it was normalized or accepted
Yes
I. C. Weiner
Pretty sure Heracles had a relationship with his nephew in the OG myths
Homosexuality destroyed the Greco-Roman empire also.
I blame OBAMA for this shit!!!! FRICK OBAMA!!! FRICK THAT MOTHER FRICKING butthole OBAMA!!!! AAAAAAAAARGH I HATE LIBERALS!!!!
I literally just got finished with Astonishing Iceman and I don't think there is a single person on this planet who gives a frick about Romeo. I also don't think I've ever actually encountered Hercules in any Marvel comic. So I guess... go ahead?
Villains should be gays, not the good guys. Satan himself is a bi-sexual homosexual. Obama is a homosexual also.
Jesus was one of the first aromantic asexuals in recorded history, and had brown skin
by your own logic, Jesus was a homosexual Black person
but you don't actually believe in Jesus or God, you just have a heart full of hate
Jesus is God in the flesh, he does not need sex or anything of this earth. When he came to earth , maybe he did have dark skin, dark skinned israelites are a real thing today.
>Jesus only has one human parent, who gave him an
X chromosome
>Jesus had no Y chromosome
>Jesus was trans
Also If God took Adam's rib to create
his partner, the genotype would
have been 44 XY, meaning Adam's
partner would have been male.
>christianity is about being heckin wholesomesauce
gb2xitter
> I've ever actually encountered Hercules in any Marvel comic.
You never read the Champions? Well neither have I but I do know that Iceman and Hercules were compatriots on that team. So they have a history not romantic, obviously but familiarity still.
I'm sure it'll stop comic sales from being in a continuous freefall.
Who-who's relationship?
why is every bit of news I see about capeshit on the subject of who is fricking whom
Because modern capeshit writers can't come up with new villains that provide interesting storylines.