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Why didn't Lews just use balefire on Ishamael?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    great casting
    not watching

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lews was always a black man giving Lanfear the bbc

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Among women, the only women stronger [than Egwene} in the One Power are Nynaeve, Talaan, Sharina, Alivia, Someryn, Tamela, Viendre and the Forsaken.
    so all the Forsaken are more powerful than her. how did she overpower Ishy?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      He wanted to die

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        he doesn't want to die. he wants to stop existing and a simple death won't give him that

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          coulndn't he just balefire himself?
          I'm confused as to how balefire works. Moraine's explanation was that it completely removes you from the pattern, but wouldn't that frick with the turnings of the wheel and all the infinitely repeating shit?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >coulndn't he just balefire himself?
            He needed a german shepherd for that

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm pretty sure even Moiraine's explanation didn't actually say that, but since it uses the wording to burn a thread from the Pattern people often get that misconception. Think of it like instead of cutting your thread with scissors, it burns it with a lighter, removing a portion at the end. What it does is kill you so hard you die in the past, which is why it can cause causality paradoxes when the Pattern has to fix effects no longer having causes. It's also why the Dark One can't resurrect you when you get balefired, the window of opportunity to grab your soul has already passed. Jordan himself has confirmed that you get reborn like normal when balefired, so any contradiction in Moiraine's explanation can be assumed to just be her ignorance.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The same way siuan overpowered rand and moiraine destroyed a fleet of ships.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      she didn’t though? she just barely held fast and was about to go down when Perrin showed up.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The bigger question is how she deflected male channeling, of which she couldn't see. All she did was make an air barrier. Ishy couldn't have done something other than throw fireballs.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    are they still making every town a perfect mix and black, african american, middle eastern, asian and spic?

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    so Tel'aran'rhiod is like 99% cut from this show, isn't it?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      they've already used it extensively so i don't think so

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        have they done anything with the wolves and the dream world? the only things I remember are Ishamael and Lanfear visiting each other/Rand in their dreams

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          not yet but next season will probably be moghedien invading everyone's dreams so they'll introduce it to the others then

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i will forget about this show when season 3 comes out in 2025
    they really shouldn't wait so long

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    can someone post a webm of mog moonwalking from lanfear

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    So did Perrin get his axe?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Guys, if you don't want to watch the show, that's fine. I don't blame you. It's not the faithful adaptation you wanted. I get it. But can you please stop mining us for information? I don't want to feed you information you can use to shitpost and complain.
      Yes, he gets the axe.
      No, it's nothing like the books.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        nothing is like the books
        this show is basically fanfiction

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Woooow, you totally didn't know that. Despite the last 5 years of all details being nothing like the books. You really needed us to tell you about the axe to figure that one out.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not that anon, moron.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Whatever.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        homosexual, I'm at work I'm going to watch this shitshow later, I don't care if it's spoiled

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          perrin tells hopper to stay outside the city
          hopper comes into the city and saves perrin from the crazy black guy
          old white dude kills hopper
          crazy black guy leaves perrin alone for some reason despite trying to kill him before
          perrin gets his axe, tracks down old white dude, and kills him in front of his son

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            sounds kino

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's terrible. First of all, it's clear that Perrin and Hopper's scenes were shot separately.
              Secondly, he tells hopper to stay out of the city like 100 yards from the walls, where there's nothing but a hot sun and dirt. The dog will dehydrate. There's nothing around. You would think that he'd tell Hopper closer to the wall, so the dog can take shade. But like, even if hopper is intelligent enough to just go find shade on his own, there's still the awkwardness of having said goodbye, and then the both of you have to walk in the same direction. Which is what I imagined happened after the camera cut away.

              As for the axe, it's just some random soldier's ax that was dropped during battle. It doesn't have the same relevancy as the original battleaxe he was carrying. Which he said he practiced with alone before even setting out on the journey. The whole thing about the axe, is that Perrin kind of fantasized using it. Until he was put into a situation where he actually has to use it, and realizes that killing isn't the fun fantasy he thought it was. The axe is a constant burden in the back of his mind, knowing that he will have to use violence when he doesn't want to. You're supposed to feel kind of sorry for him every time he has to use it. But in the show, Perrin is already killing without the axe. The one he finds is just some random thing he needed to avoid dying. He wasn't particularly imprinted upon by the axe.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I thought at least it would be dains axe seeing as they set that up this season

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Crazy black dude
            Who?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Crazy black dude
            Who?

            Oh wait nvm you mean fain

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              No, Valda

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                no, the guy with the white cloaks

                Lol what? Why the frick would he let Perrin go? Ah nvm what a shitshow

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                It was just a crazy fight. The white cloaks were targeting Seanchan, not civilians like Perrin. Perrin accidentally runs into the middle of a fray gets confronted by Valda. Geofram, the old man, he's distracted in the fight until Hopper comes in and attacks Valda. That's when he takes notice and axes Hopper. The fight done, he and his men move on to the next. He probably didn't even register Perrin's face.

                I thought at least it would be dains axe seeing as they set that up this season

                I don't remember that. But I swear they set up the shot to get a good look at his dad's axe this episode when he kills hopper. Geofram's axe is all fancy looking. There might be an axe trade later.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              no, the guy with the white cloaks

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      He grabs a random axe from the ground when he goes to kill Geofram Bornhald, it looks nothing like it should and I don't remember if he keeps it. And yeah, he actually fricking kills Bornhald in the show, right in front of Dain. Dunno how they are going to justify Dain being an enemy when he's actually right to blame Perrin now.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's her endgame? does she actually love rand? because in the books she just wanted him for power

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      she can get power with him by sharing him or without him by killing him. she a cuck so she gonna like egwene pussy juice from ran al'thor dick

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        *lick

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >egwene pussy juice
        Bet it tastes like petrol

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          wet copper. also blood.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Completely forgot Lews Therin was black. All Lanfear scenes are ruined now knowing she's a coal smoker.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    ok back from work about to watch this shit, wish me luck lads

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Weep for your adaptation.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    you have to turn on subs to understand the opening scene lmao amazon is such a joke, and I send and receive packages a lot thats why I have amazon before anyone gives me shit about it

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      imagine not being fluent in the Old Tongue

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm stuck in a country where Amazon doesn't offer english subtitles, so I can't watch any korean or german series. Fricking grand

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    WOT next season out 2025. By then the cowboys will have lost 2 more playoff games and not made it out of wildcards or second round of the playoffs, ja morant would be dead in a drive by shooting, trump will either be president or in jail, the actors who haven't hit the wall will hit the wall, the actors who want to jump ship will jump ship and leave like Witcher actors left, Brandon Sanderson will ignore this show like he has midway through season 1 and act like it never happened or call it a "new turning of the wheel", conor mcgregor will retire from fighting, islam makhachev will become the new khabib, jose mourinho will win the champions league after bringing roma to champions league in 2024, but with a different team in 2025, the price of food will triple in cities but drop in the suburbs, the university system will begin collapsing as we know it, another couple riots will occur in america and many many more mass shootings, another war will erupt in the middle east, airborne aids style virus will occur and then another season which will be watched by 10 people will be released. Don't get me started what will happen when (if) season 4 releases in 2027. I hope the show doesn't get cancelled, never stop your enemy when they are doing a mistake. The people involved in the show deserve to waste these golden years of their careers and life in this shitshow. Same applies for ROP(e).

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the university system will begin collapsing as we know it
      Already been happening over the last 2-3 years.
      campus are empty or barely able to get to 50% capacity, colleges and universities are plagued by lawsuits that they’re losing, both in terms of legality and optics, and the growing trend is that college is a debt trap to be avoided.
      add to that, everyone is using AI to write, students for their essays (of course), but also professors are using it to write prompts etc
      maybe it hasn’t reached critical mass yet so it’s not noticeable, but expect it to become the next sob story you’re supposed to feel sympathetic toward after this Hollywood strike stuff fully subsides.
      its death is even funnier and quicker than expected. and just like Hollywood, Covid accelerated it.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >rand one powers turok
    well that was fricking gay, also did the heron mark magically appear on the hilt, it hasn't been their this entire time, only on the blade

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah and when he gets branded he's holding it by the blade (where the original heron is) and not on the hilt where that heron is

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >also did the heron mark magically appear on the hilt it hasn't been their this entire time, only on the blade
      I don't think it did, Rand just grabbed the sword by the blade for no reason.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        it did when he confronted turok, the on the tower its gone again, I'm watching it right now

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's on the hilt when Turak sees the sword, otherwise he wouldn't have any indication that it's a heron mark sword, because Rand never unsheathes it. Then they just take it off again for the rest of the episode and have Rand grab the fricking blade instead which brands him.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yea, I think that was Rafe's gay way of imitating Raiders of the Lost Ark, when Indiana shot the dude instead of fighting.
      Rand went from innocent babe to striking down a dozen men in cold blood without flinching.
      The whole scene with Ishy was bizarre. He wasn't out of juice and he let Rand walk up to him and casually slide his blade home.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just read a recap of the finale. To the poor bastards actually watching this trash, how you holding up?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      poorly im pausing every 5-10 minutes I should've drunk a lot more before starting this shit

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rafe has to write his screen plays in a meth fueled psychosis, because unless you've read the books none of this makes an ounce of sense. Its pure schizophrenia half the time.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    is mat making his ashandarei? out of the dagger and a bed post? holy shit just when you think it can't get any worse

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >egwene frees herself
    hahhahahahaha holy shit

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wheel of Time? More like Wheel of Black folk

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    the heron mark on the hilt disappeared again

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      the pattern weaves as the pattern wills

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I have fought by your side a...
    FRICK OFF no you haven't the whole fricking is mat is not a hero of the horn ffs

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mat "no bloody hero" Cauthon finally has his big moment in the show that's for once not about how much of a piece of shit coward who abandons his friends he is, and what is his amazing revelation? That he's a bloody hero, bound to be a hero forever and ever and he's elated about it. Rafe must genuinely hate Mat with a passion.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mat "no bloody hero" Cauthon finally has his big moment in the show that's for once not about how much of a piece of shit coward who abandons his friends he is, and what is his amazing revelation? That he's a bloody hero, bound to be a hero forever and ever and he's elated about it. Rafe must genuinely hate Mat with a passion.

      I don't believe that was the implication. I believe that the hero recognizes Mat's soul as being shared with someone the man fought beside in his past. Much like how people recognize Rand as Lews Therin.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        bull fricking shit, he flat out says
        >i'm one of you
        and hawkwing agrees

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh. I forgot about that.

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Egwene is the one who defeats Ishamael

    He actually did it, that son of a b***h actually did it.

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    nye isn't going to heal a single person this entire season is she?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would she? when healing deadly wounds is easy peasy, barely an inconvenience?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Show Nynaeve never seems to get angry enough to channel. She's always playing scared and worried. Not the short tempered brow beater.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        you'd think seeing all those people dying would make her angry ya know like in the books, I genuinely thought thats what was a about to happen but nope, she's just sad

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >egwene is holding off fricking ishamael
    how much do contract killers cost anyway? it can't be that much in the ukraine or w/e eastern european shit hole they film this in

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      the american mixed race wins over the semitic ishamael. i think the producers are nazis.

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I thought Rafe was going to take all of Nynaeve's accomplishments and gift them to Egwene, since Nynaeve is superior in every way as an Aes Sedai
    >it's even worse, he's taking both Nynaeve's AND Rand's accomplishments
    jesus fricking christ

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You guys have edited your EPUB's to remove all Egwene and Elayne chapters, right?

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    ah moraine can't do that
    >only in the last defensive of your own life that of your warder or another aes sedai
    nope can't do it they even made a big point of the oaths this season

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no sense of the power levels in the show, how the frick can Moiraine just destroy 50 ships like that?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        she can't she can't even do that first attack breaks the oaths ffs lan just pointed out their might be innocents but regardless it doesn't matter they are human and she is in no danger from them

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        from a mile away no less

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        She could probably do it with a Ter'angreal, like in the first book when she does that massive fire attack to stop a large group of pursuers. But it would push her to her very limits, and she would be useless afterwards. But on her own? Nah.

        But on second though, it was only a single fireball that she swirled around. So it's not like she created a lot of fire. She just reused the same fire. But then again, creating a fireball strong enough to punch holes through ships would probably requires a lot of power. So I'm not really sure.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          angreal, a ter'angreal has a a specific function its not a power booster those are angreals and sa-angreals, but no book moraine even putting aside the oaths could've never done that even with her angreal

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          She channeled it under water and then brought it up with enough force that none of the 20 or so domaine or whatever could stop it. Then went to wrecking the fleet from 1000 yards away. That is not normal power levels for book one. Even eqwaine when forced couldn't sling that big a fire ball and we know she's stronger.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            the book power levels and the show power levels are very different. moiraine cannot destroy by herself a fleet of ships in the book.

            and egwene cannot fight the forsaken until book 8 or 9.

            rand dueled with the asian culture insert with the crane marked sword, and he just off the dude and his entourage like indiana jones in the show.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I was thinking that. I would have complained about it earlier, but stopped myself, because I wasn't sure how exactly the oaths could be broken. Stilling undoes the oaths. But then again Moiraine wasn't stilled, she was only tied off.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        they literally showed she was still bound to the oath rod last episode

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          When? Was it when she was forced by the Amyrlin to close the gate? What was that exactly? I don't remember that being part of the rules.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Member in season 1 when Moiraine was forced to swear loyalty on the oath rod to Siuane?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nope. I forgot about 98% of Season 1.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh to be so lucky...

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I envy you

                It's all flashes of images now. I remember the stuff you guys repost here. Which isn't much. But the rest is like a character's face smiling. A character's face looking angry. That one pic of Aram I was shitposing with. Some of the promotional shots. Moiraine and Lan sharing a bath. Flicker flicker flicker. snapshops I can't even focus on. It's all lost to me now.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                good its not worth remembering, sucks that I do

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I envy you

  28. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    i wann a sheath my sword in moraine

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dude, there's an infinite number of girls who are better looking than her.

  29. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ishameal let us all out
    >their were only 6 seals
    they established their were 13 forsaken last season, this show is pants on head moronic

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah there are only 8 in the show.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guess they're skipping the slog books, where Jordan artificially lengthens the story to handle a bunch of redundant bad guys.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        you mean they are making more time for gay warders and fan fiction

  30. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    did moghedien just shield lanfear? what the ever loving frick is rafe smoking

  31. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You homosexuals are discussing this shit as if it were real or something
    Some dude came up with this shit, which is why it doesn't make any sense upon further scutiny

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      are you moronic? this board is about fiction, made up stories you utter moron, some make sense and some are badly written shit and don't this is the latter what a fricking bizarre thing to say

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes he is moronic

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's not the problem, the problem is that people are arguing as if there is some objective truth to this shit (and some most assuredly believe there is one), when there isn't
        It's some dudes fantasy, that's it, many of you are under the illusion (I mean this quite literally) that it's something more than that

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          lol what a fricking stupid argument, we are discussing how badly this shit is as an adaptation of an existing story, if they had followed the books it would make sense they didn't they suck at writing so it doesn't, what the frick are you babbling about?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          every piece of fiction is some dudes fantasy you utter moron

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, now ruminate on this for a while

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              you really are dumb aren't you? if you don't want to discuss fiction wtf are you doing on this board?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I do like discussing fiction, just not with militant troglodytes who somehow believe that their way of viewing said fiction is ""objectively""" correct (no such thing)

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                uh what? its about pointing out the completely illogical moronation of this shit, if you don't like that go back and discuss with morons like yourself

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                your way of viewing this is objectively wrong, as in you clearly just swallow what ever shit they put in front of you

  32. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    other than lanfear are there any hot girls in this ? all i've seen so far ar uggos, especially the brown/black ones

  33. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"We don't have the budget for a siege scene, so let's just have kids with censers making a white mist or whatever"
    kek
    >Aiel walk through the front gate of Falme, no-one bats an eyelash or is surprised to see them with Perrin
    >Ingtar and Loial just got free and got the horn off-screen because Lanfear gave them it
    are you fricking kidding me
    >Rand doesn't even duel Turak
    Rand killingTurak and grabbing the horn was one of the cooler book parts. It's funny that he'd just channel to kill him, but it's a disappointment; should be happy Rand is doing something, huh?
    >Ingtar: "I'll hold them off!" then dies 5 seconds later
    what a travesty
    >The Shaddar Logoth dagger is now a lightsabre
    >Mat ties the dagger to a stick and it's as resilient as an actual weapon
    >Eg's plot armour resists trebuchet shots
    please make it stop
    >Eg is a sul'dam without wearing the bracelet
    I'll let this slide because I don't remember the specifics in the book and because Egwene killed the "nonbinary" homosexualess
    >"I'll kill you now, Perrin Aybara! Oh no, you set your wolf on me! Let me stand up and not take three more seconds to slash your neck like I was just going to do"
    based Valda obeying Bornhald's every order
    >Uno Nomesta and Aquaman are among the heroes of the horn
    hahahhahahahahhaha, I bet alanna's gays are also heroes of the horn
    >the stupid dagger tied to a stick is how Mat gains his signature spear
    I fricking hate this show
    >Nyn and Elayne do nothing all episode
    >Nyn doesn't break the bolt before shoving it into Elayne's leg
    damn, she must really hate her
    >Epic duel with baalzamon reduced to Rand slowly sticking a sword into his chest
    >Moiraine does magic bullshit instead of having the duel be so fricking epic you can literally see Rand fighting ishamael reflected in the clouds
    Why are they so desperate to shit on Rand? I'm not even opposed to him being helped by his friends (though I'm pretty sure that's not how it went); at least Elayne met Rand, I was expecting she wouldn't
    what a shitshow

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      they spent all season talking about the oaths and even showed her being compelled by the oath rod last episode, she couldn't have even done that attack ffs lan points out not 5 seconds before their are people on those ships

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