Yes and yes. Book 4, shadow rising, is about 700 pages of them boning in every position imaginable. Then moiraine gets jealous and pushes her into a magic door
What the frick were they thinking making Avhienda the ugliest of the Aiel? Every other girl is a normal redhead, even Rand's mom, and then Aviehnda looks like a dog.
Tired of Black folk and shits being forced into my country and committing crimes then having to look upon their hellish visage in media makes me double sick
I can't believe those 20 years spent dreaming of a live version of one of my favorite book series would turn out like this. I hate this so much, it hurts so much. Of all the things they could ruin why did it have to be this one? I hate being so helpless against this evil, there's nothing I can say or do to change it. Why does evil almost always win and get to gloat about it at the same time? I'm tired man.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Evil didn't win. Show is shit, books are better.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Evil won by stealing what could have been, what should have been. Sure we still have the books they can't take those from us (yet), but the new generation will only know of the story from the show and that is a terrible thing.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Most wealthy corporation in the world, known for it's exploitative business practices, creates a branch for cinematic entertainment, wherein it purchases the rights to some of the most beloved IPs. They go on to tarnish these IPs by injecting intersectional feminist politics. Not only ruining what they have now, and burning their own money, but also potentially harming the image of these IPs rendering them unprofitable for the foreseeable future. Destroying any chance of seeing a decent adaptation within our lifetime.
Looks pretty evil to me.
8 months ago
Anonymous
It really is painful. Like watching siuan shield rand effortlessly
7 months ago
Anonymous
> Of all the things they could ruin why did it have to be this one?
Don't worry. They're ruining everything else too.
is the show setting it up so that mat+min, aviendha+perrin? so rand only gets elayne? my memories from the books are vague, but that seems like a very moronic move
kek
so you're telling me there will be a scene where rand, mat and perrin has a passionate three way?
how progressive, im sure the audince will nod approvingly
i see it now, the women will do that "i dont belong to no man!" while fricking 3 guys at the same time meanwhile rand, mat and perrin will sheepisly go along with sharing
perrin will atleast go along with it, his whole character screams one-woman loyalty
mat will be happy either way, as long as he gets his dick wet
rand, however, would never accept that bullshit so i wonder how they will try and justify that in the show
Nah, I won.
We both agreed Min is white. We disagreed on whether or not it was obvious that Min was white in the beginning of the story. Your arguments all relied on information that came from books 4 and 7. So they were dismissed.
The good one argument you had, was questioning if the book showed any significant signs of eastern influences starting from the beginning of EotW to the chapter when Min is introduced. To witch I listed multiple signs of eastern influence.
You then started pointing out Arthurian influence. Which is mostly irrelevant. Because the Arthurian influence doesn't erase eastern influences. But not only that, the Arthurian influences you were pointing out were mainly names of people and places. Which is funny, because earlier in the argument, you tried to argue that it's racist and ignorant to assume "Min" is an Asian name. But now here you ok with assuming that al'Thor is an Arthurian name.
And now, I predict the next reply I get will say "Min is short for Elmindreda". Because that one hyper aggressive anon is a broken record and doesn't know how to follow conversations. He'll ignore the fact that we already addressed Min's whole name is revealed in Book 4.
It was a clean win. You guys ran out of arguments, I ultimately proved that Min's race at the beginning of the book is up to interpretation, and that Asian is a perfectly reasonable interpretation.
7 months ago
Anonymous
this isn't reddit your walls of text and massive cope are simply an embarrassment, go back
7 months ago
Anonymous
>this isn't reddit
Correct, so take your retroactive raceswapping back there.
7 months ago
Anonymous
damn you really desperate for someone to talk to aren't you? sorry maybe if you weren't such a delusional homosexual
7 months ago
Anonymous
didnt read lol
7 months ago
Anonymous
this isn't reddit your walls of text and massive cope are simply an embarrassment, go back
>"didn't tread, lol" >Continues to monitor thread, checking back at every new post notification.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The better question is why do you want her to be race swapped?
7 months ago
Anonymous
I don't *want* her to be race swapped. I just don't care that she is, because I imagined her as Asian when I read the books. Ideally, sticking close to the book material is best. But if I had to rank changes between utterly unforgivable and totally acceptable, I would place Min's race change in the easily tolerable bracket.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Than why did they make her an ugly adult twice rands age?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Because they're Rafe's team are a bunch of Hollywood hacks, and the actress playing Min was Leaf in Game of Thrones. She has the higher acting credits and stronger connections, so she gets the part.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You listed 4 things, two of which weren't present before meeting Min, The other two were you hearing Lan's name and automatically thinking he's a fricking Samurai, the other was you unironically thinking CURVED SWORD = KATANA!?!?!??!?!?
You are literally brain dead.
7 months ago
Anonymous
don't engage with the shill
7 months ago
Anonymous
1. I mentioned the Aes Sedai symbol. Which is mentioned in the prologue. Lews Therin looks into a mirror, and takes note of the symbol on his cloak.
2. I mentioned that the very idea of the wheel of time invokes eastern mythology. Existence being circular and lives resurrecting. I backed this up with RJ stating as much in an interview. So the very framework that the entire world is built, is based on eastern philosophy. This isn't a small thing.
3. Lan was identified as a Samurai not strictly due to his name. In fact, I was not the one who originally invoked his name as being particularly Asian. One of you did. I said Lan was Asian because he appears like a samurai. By that I mean, his top knot, sword, and armor you see on the cover of the book. The armor is definitely a eastern style armor. No matter what Lan's eye color is, he wears a Samurai's armor.
4. Perrin's last name being Aybara. Sounds vaguely Japanesey
5. Cenn's name being pronounce "Sen" in the audiobook. Sounds vaguely Japanesey.
6. Moiraine's Kesiera. Third eye symbolism typical of the east.
7. The sword, while not exactly a katana. Is still a weapon that evokes the idea of a katana. Putting a cross guard on a curved sword is a blending of eastern and western weaponry, which is in line with WoT's blend of east and west cultures. This video demonstrates how simple it is to combine the blade of a katana with the hilt and guard of a western sword. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUAhztF7s04
The one guy, he's a soiboy like you. He just can't wrap his head around the idea, even while he's holding the sword in his hand. The other guy, he's cool like me. He easily adapts to this mixture and is able to appreciate the mix of features.
These are more than sufficient reasons to identify the story as having eastern influences before Min shows up. And I'm sure I'm missing more details. I could dig for more, but that would be too much work.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine if you spent your time actually reading the books instead of doing word searches
7 months ago
Anonymous
I just finished the eye of the world the other day(for the 4th time), and now I'm reading the great hunt(3rd time)
>4. Perrin's last name being Aybara. Sounds vaguely Japanesey >5. Cenn's name being pronounce "Sen" in the audiobook. Sounds vaguely Japanesey.
You sound vaguely morone
Google "Abara", it pulls up a Japanese manga. It translates to "ribs".
Google "Sen", it means a thousand in Japanese. Like Sen's Fortress from Dark Souls.
7 months ago
Anonymous
there are no Japanese names or words in Wheel of Time. It is a completely bespoke world. While there may be similarities, to things found in our world...it an entirely fictional and complete world with its own nomenclature and characteristics.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Seanchan. Sean-chan. [word]-chan.
Asian.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Seanchan are not Asian...they are from a continent which is not Asia, on a planet that is not Earth, in a story that is completely fictional.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Asian influenced though.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>on a planet that is not Earth
The statue of liberty is literally turned into a super weapon.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Perin is a slavic name, close to Perun aka the god of thunder. And Aybara sounds like Ajvara, which is a slavic condiment.
Wow, look at that unrefutable proof that Wot is slavic.
Also gypsies go around slavic countries in house carriages that use wheels as depicted in Wot symbology combined with an ourobors in a shape of infinity which is not an eastern symbol.
Meaning that Jordan was warning us about the infinite gypsy problem.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Perin is a slavic name, close to Perun aka the god of thunder. And Aybara sounds like Ajvara, which is a slavic condiment.
I mean, if that's how you interpreted it, then I'm not going to tell you you're dumb for thinking that way.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>4. Perrin's last name being Aybara. Sounds vaguely Japanesey >5. Cenn's name being pronounce "Sen" in the audiobook. Sounds vaguely Japanesey.
The most selling fantasy series of all time and the most watched fantasy show of all time, rafe Judkins has really blessed us with his exquisite authorship of the entire series. Awards will pour in as well deserved.
Rand is a pussy ass b***h and hopefully lanfear fricks some sense into him. He needs to get his dick wet and stop being such a gay
I think the latest episode is the only actually good one of the series so far. Yet for some reason redditgays hate it more than the others and love the other episodes.
I also loved how siuan, who we know has given 25 years of her life on a quest to save the world immediately says frick it and shields the world's strongest channeler without blinking
Listen I am so sick and tired of Moiraine in this show. MY g*d. She wasn't even STILLED. Treated every single person around her bad, every single one. And for what? Her attitude these last 7 episodes was either badly acted or fricking moronic. I mean look at Liandrin. Liandrin is a fricking b***h, a huge one. Evil as frick too. But even Liandrin is more likeable. I actually have huge respect for Liandrin as a character.
Moiraine? Nah, kept the same exact face for everything for 7 episodes straight. Smiles when Rand removes the shield, then returns to that stupid fricking face as she lets Siuan die....for what?
They greatly tuned down the man-hating in this show and squeezed it in when they dumped the soon-to-be king Damodred in a cell. I was so pissed at how stupid the scene was. Took some old bag ass lady 2 seconds to get down into the basement to eavesdrop. Then the idiot believes the guards' when they say they have Moiraine, which makes me think Liandrin set him up by saying she's in a cell.
Did we not go through all this Moiraine and her sister drama for her to go back to worshiping Moiraine. Who gives a frick.
Then Egwene taking 5 million years to pour a glass of water. What for? She really couldn't just be rational and pour the fricking water FOR HERSELF.
Nynaeve as always shining brightly in the show, I like that they are trying to grow her as a character even if she's being really rash, but you know she will save her friends no matter what.
Rand actually pretty decent, I like him and Lanfear together.
Lan is a little b***h, I completely lost respect for him. He has this revelation that Moiraine isn't stilled then doesn't leave the key as if Logain hunted them, when it was them hunting him.
But in all honest frick moiraine, they wasted so muhc screen time on her. And Egwene is so fricking ugly man, I enjoyed watching Egwene and Moiraine get humbled and blown the frick out. They both deserve it.
This show is fricking embarrassing on every level. The night scenes are so dark that you can't see anything, the costumes look like shit and sometimes achronistic. There's repeated scenes in ep4. The motivations are moronic, the plot moves forward so they can check off their this happened in the book box, then continue going back to Maksim moping or verin sitting. It's fricking ridiculous! I can't understand how this show has gotten 3 seasons let alone given rafe yet another show.
>I can't understand how this show has gotten 3 seasons let alone given rafe yet another show.
usually adaptations are 3 year+ agreements to make it worth the licensing costs
I just got to the part in book two, where Moiraine and Siuan talk for the first time. And Siuan starts reminiscing about their time as novices in the tower. One of the things she remembers them doing, is fantasizing about finding men, and they would be princes, and they would be strong enough to bear the power of an Aes Sedai. Basically, the very first meeting they have establishes they're not gay.
Meanwhile, in the show, Moiraine and Siuan fantasize about telling their families of their gayness.
The people that made this show are the same people that wrote 500 pages of fan fiction of sam and frodo buttfricking because they think any same sex friendship has to be sexual.
This is canon according to pic related >The term pillow-friends refers to a homosexual relationship between two individuals, most commonly between two women. It is most prevalent in the White Tower.
https://wot.fandom.com/wiki/Pillow_friends
This paragraph really muddies the waters. First of all, there are no sexual implications in this paragraph. It says that they are pillow friends, however, it doesn't say what they did to be considered pillow friends. It only talks about hijinks they go into. Pranks they played. And on the night they were to be raised to the Shawl? You would think they would be smashing their clams that night. Not playing pranks.
I have to question is pillow friend strictly means sexual, or if it's a broader term for girls who are very close, like best friends. In real life, it's not uncommon for girls to sleep in the same bed for comfort. It's completely platonic in 99% of cases. I don't know why we assume that every girl who shares a bed is automatically gay.
Secondly, even if they did have a sexual relationship, that doesn't make them gay. If their relationship really was so important to them, then their reminiscing wouldn't be about boys. It would be about each other. Or maybe other girls. But the fact that they both bond over dreaming about boys, prove that they're not gay, no matter how sexual their relationship might have been.
We know what pillow friends are. The passage says they are pillow friends.
You have to be moronic if you think it's still ambiguous.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>We know what pillow friends are
We know what pillow friend relationships are capable of being. It doesn't have to be a strictly sexual definition. It's like calling someone a carpenter. What do they actually build? Are they putting up whole houses? Or are they making chairs? Building decks? Like what's their thing within the field of carpentry? What does pillow friend actually mean.
Also, I would appreciate it if you read my whole post. I know you didn't, because I was vainly reading my own post back when you replied. There's no way you really processed what I said and typed your own post in 43 seconds.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Pillow friends are not just good friends. Oh, they are that, too, but they also get hot and sweaty together and muss up the sheets something fierce. By the way, pillow friends is a term used in the White Tower. The same relationship between men or women elsewhere would be called something else, depending on the country.
You're moronic and in denial.
8 months ago
Anonymous
No, I'm convinced. If the man said it himself. Here's the source, btw: https://dragonmount.com/blogs/entry/326-yet-another-post/
No need to call me a moron, just because I haven't read some random blog post from 2005.
Why would he take into context your whole post when he can just cherry pick the part that makes his opinion seem correct?
Yeah, no kidding. He successfully persuaded me on only one point. But didn't even bother reading the other point. So now he's going to continue thinking he got me and call me a moron again. Despite the fact that he's only done half the work.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The point is what was supposed to be a reference to young girls experimenting in college and given nothing more than a line or two has to be twisted into modern perverse anything but straight white sexuality pushed to the extreme. I'm tired of it, I'm tired of sex being a stand in for actual meaningful relationships.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah. I agree for the most part. That's why I brought it up in the first place. I was pointing out another bastardization of the material.
But even so, I'm not a super WoT expert myself. So I questioned the interpretation of a paragraph that looked muddy and uncertain to me.
If that's how you truly feel, then you would have agreed with the second point I made in my post. The point you didn't read.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah. I agree for the most part. That's why I brought it up in the first place. I was pointing out another bastardization of the material.
But even so, I'm not a super WoT expert myself. So I questioned the interpretation of a paragraph that looked muddy and uncertain to me.
If that's how you truly feel, then you would have agreed with the second point I made in my post. The point you didn't read.
there is no indication in the show that they are still lovers, only that they have a stronger connection due to being pillow sisters AND being allies in trying to find the dragon
all lesbianism was in flashbacks, not the current day
8 months ago
Anonymous
Not true. They still frick and kiss and show affection in modern day.
Also, their flashbacks in show are more involved than their experience as novices in the books. Because as mentioned before, they were fantasizing about boys, despite their sexual experiences. But in the show, they're fantasizing about formalizing their own relationship.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Not in the book they don't.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I was talking about the show.
>They still frick and kiss and show affection in modern day.
no they dont you fricking moron. stop making shit up
Literally just google "Moiraine and Siuan kissing" and you can watch the scenes for yourself.
8 months ago
Anonymous
that's from the past dumbfrick. it's pre-prophecy
8 months ago
Anonymous
Listen, man. I know you're desperate to keep your thread up. But I'm really getting sick of your over the top aggro attitude. Calm the frick down. Stop making everything sound so dire.
You're wrong. the image I posted is from modern day. The fricking scene happened last season.
8 months ago
Anonymous
No, the scene in Friday's episode was a flashback. You're just wrong.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>They still frick and kiss and show affection in modern day.
no they dont you fricking moron. stop making shit up
8 months ago
Anonymous
Why would he take into context your whole post when he can just cherry pick the part that makes his opinion seem correct?
8 months ago
Anonymous
I don't need to read the rest of the post when the second sentence is non-canon both in-universe and according to the author.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Your concession has been duly accepted.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I still haven't read the rest of your post and you are still wrong.
>We know what pillow friends are
We know what pillow friend relationships are capable of being. It doesn't have to be a strictly sexual definition. It's like calling someone a carpenter. What do they actually build? Are they putting up whole houses? Or are they making chairs? Building decks? Like what's their thing within the field of carpentry? What does pillow friend actually mean.
Also, I would appreciate it if you read my whole post. I know you didn't, because I was vainly reading my own post back when you replied. There's no way you really processed what I said and typed your own post in 43 seconds.
No, I'm convinced. If the man said it himself. Here's the source, btw: https://dragonmount.com/blogs/entry/326-yet-another-post/
No need to call me a moron, just because I haven't read some random blog post from 2005.
[...]
Yeah, no kidding. He successfully persuaded me on only one point. But didn't even bother reading the other point. So now he's going to continue thinking he got me and call me a moron again. Despite the fact that he's only done half the work.
Yeah. I agree for the most part. That's why I brought it up in the first place. I was pointing out another bastardization of the material.
But even so, I'm not a super WoT expert myself. So I questioned the interpretation of a paragraph that looked muddy and uncertain to me.
If that's how you truly feel, then you would have agreed with the second point I made in my post. The point you didn't read.
unfortunally its near impossible to cast young women who can act in such a way that actually feel dominant on screen
perfect example is daenerys and cersei, whenever the story for danny was about her YASS QUEEN slaying it always felt lika child trying to boss around people and it just looks stupid that grown hardened men would go along with it
Very pretty, but still noticeably aged. Lanfear was the most beautiful woman ever.(She's not really my type, but still) She would have a more youthful face.
7 months ago
Anonymous
jfc what a gay, ok fine go down another 10 years
7 months ago
Anonymous
Could she even act back then? that's all the way back in 1993. According to IMDB, she only has 4 acting credits under her belt back then.
Can she even act today? To be honest, I never seen her in anything. What are her qualifications for acting dominant? Sure, she has a good presence. She's perfected the model's smoldering look. But when models speak, they reveal themselves as bimbos.
None of this matters in truth, because we don't have a time machine, and can't grab 1993 Monica.
7 months ago
Anonymous
yes she could she already had a history a long history in theater, and yes she can absolutely act dominate and could then, but w/e you asked for perfect casting I gave it too you
7 months ago
Anonymous
>big tiddy goth isnt my type
im seriously curious how thats not any straight mans type
7 months ago
Anonymous
I don't prefer tall girls. For me, the most beautiful woman in the world would be between 5'4 and 5'0. Basically the heights between Moiraine and Eqwene.
>monica isn't my type
how is it possible that she isn't every mans type? and probably a lot of women too? wtf? pillow biter are you?
I was referring to Lanfear not being my type. If you interpret that as Monica not being my type, well you're kind of right but for the wrong reasons. I personally don't imagine Lanfear looking like Monica in my head. To me, she has a slimmer face. I don't find square jaws to be the *most* beautiful. Sure, beautiful women can have square jaws. But Lanfear is supposed to represent perfection in all things. And 11/10. And so to me, that means a less defined jawline. So I wasn't even imagining Lanfear looking like Monica when I said Lanfear isn't my type. I was imagining Lanfear's height. Which is tall. Coincidentally, Monica is a little on the tall side too.(for a woman) So that's another degree away from perfection.
Don't get me wrong, I was infatuated with Monica Bellucci when I was younger. That's why despite never having seen her movies, I knew who she was. She's just not my idea of perfection.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>monica isn't my type
how is it possible that she isn't every mans type? and probably a lot of women too? wtf? pillow biter are you?
My cousin continues trying to persuade me to watch this show. Going on about how it’s gotten rid of some of the “problematic” aspects of the books. I still haven’t watched fricking any of this and every single thread filled with this woke shit vindicates my decision.
Slap her in the face the next time you see her then throw her in a bush and rape the shit out of her. If you don't assert dominance now she is going to live a horrible life.
Nah. Rand is gonna die. Lan will die too, and Nynaeve will either be a single mom or she'll end up with a black guy. Commie tools cannot allow family to be shown in a positive light.
realistically, why didn’t they rape the hell out of him in the book? why didn’t they start a 1-man breeding program and force rand to impregnate every woman with channeling abilities? force him to knock up egwene and nynaeve too. just an absolute squadron. what a sound investment in the future it would be.
>realistically, why didn’t they rape the hell out of him in the book? why didn’t they start a 1-man breeding program and force rand to impregnate every woman with channeling abilities?
Because they're moronic and don't know shit about heredity. They've been culling the channeling genes for centuries by making all channeler women into Aes Sedai dykes/femcels and then wonder why there are so few new recruits.
which turned out to be waste of time since you couldnt actually breed the ability to channel out, only make it sorta non-dominant, but it people still had it anyway
so dumb. Imagine the fricking army of powerful chandeliers they would have, even if they only limited it to whoever was in the white tower at the time.
Despite how much i want it to die, is it actually doing poorly? I don't know a single person who watches it but 800 billion Indians might watch it because what'sername is in it
nah its doing horrendously bad. Only shills and wot addicted bookgays are talking about it but. It's basically destroyed the fanbase and hasn't captured a new one.
I mean I saw it had 500M minutes viewed on Nielsen? Which only counts people who watched it over 2 minutes... if theoretically everyone watched the 3 episodes it was tracking, 2.8 million people watched through ep 3. Seems bad for what they want the show to be, but supernatural ran for 10 seasons on 900,000 people. It might also only track us households so maybe it is popular in India or wherever
8 months ago
Anonymous
Season 2 is actually doing much worse than Season 1.
Sauce: A Reddit thread with a comment section running on copium.
>those comments >that one saying I'm mad because people shit on starfield
How does someone become like this? What happens in their lives?
8 months ago
Anonymous
lmao
8 months ago
Anonymous
these people are so embarrassing
8 months ago
Anonymous
I feel like Sam Neil at the end of mouth of madness. I'm the last sane person in a world full of fricking cannibal morons
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, the show has basically ruined the WoT subreddits, it's basically an 'Emperor's New Clothes' situation where you have to pretend nothing is wrong
7 months ago
Anonymous
uh how fricking stupid are they? that doesn't work, rewatches aren't counted as their is no financial gain
8 months ago
Anonymous
Amazon might just dump season 3 with no fanfare to try and save on marketing lmao what a disaster
8 months ago
Anonymous
has there even been any marketing for this season?
7 months ago
Anonymous
No but they're using covid as an excuse still.
Amazon might just dump season 3 with no fanfare to try and save on marketing lmao what a disaster
Amazon greenlit 3 seasons to it may be possible. Especially with viewership going down 50% this season and how Rafe confirmed every season has a 2 year period in between. Don't get why he'd want to dedicate 16 years of his life on this though.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I think Amazon paying shills to delete negativity is actually going to hurt them. It gives the impression that the show is doing better than it really is which will cause a continuous drop off per season.
7 months ago
Anonymous
which is unfortunate because season 2 is much better, i would even go so far to say its kino (cringekino)
but first season was so dull i get why people wouldnt give season 2 a chance
I mean I saw it had 500M minutes viewed on Nielsen? Which only counts people who watched it over 2 minutes... if theoretically everyone watched the 3 episodes it was tracking, 2.8 million people watched through ep 3. Seems bad for what they want the show to be, but supernatural ran for 10 seasons on 900,000 people. It might also only track us households so maybe it is popular in India or wherever
I assume they're hoping it could be a game of thrones situation where it didn't really pick up with the normies until a few seasons in and then became huge
8 months ago
Anonymous
>they're hoping it could be a game of thrones
they are so deluded that they legitimately think they've made another GoT
She is now. Rafe has foretold it. They're pushing very heavy on the whole unreliable narrator thing. Egwene is Rafe's favorite character. The Dragon is not the Champion of Light but the Amaresu.
Its clear the show will do whatever it wants...but...
The Dragon is the Male Champion of the Light. It is always the same soul wether it functions as the Dragon or not. The Female Champion of the Light is Amaresu. Souls cannot change gender., so it is impossible for Amaresu to the Dragon, even if a Female Champion is needed.
souls can change gender though, theres some forsaken that get genderswapped
dont talk like you know if you havent read the books
7 months ago
Anonymous
They literally can't, that happens in the book and the guys soul is still male, it's a plot point.
7 months ago
Anonymous
idiot they still have a male soul in a female body thats why they stil use saidin instead of saidar you utter frickwit
7 months ago
Anonymous
You're not remembering it right. That one the Dark One taking the soul and putting it into a woman's body because he's a dick. That is an abomination.
7 months ago
Anonymous
No sir, souls cannot change gender. A male forsaken gets put in a female body and still uses Saidin. This a not insignificant part of the story in the middle books.
7 months ago
Anonymous
you can change your body but you cannot change what you are. troons forever btfo
7 months ago
Anonymous
You'd think they'd actually be all for the soul split if anything. It would give them irrefutable proof that they are indeed in the wrong body then they feel. >I am actually a woman. See I can using Saidin!
Instead they do away with the split and now they have no proof but feels again.
What the frick did they do with this show. I've been reading through the books and decided to give it a try and holy shit it's so bad. I understand having to change things around for a tv show but if you're going to change the plot this much why even use the IP?
the writers obviously don't like the books and they don't want to just adapt something because they probably feel like they're not real writers unless they add something new
as a result we get original scenes of original characters doing shit completely irrelevant to the main cast and the plot
>we need to condense the storyline because there's so much to tell, so some things will obviously need to get cut >also, here's an entire episode dedicated to a made up warder dying because he doesn't want to be gay
>popular IP >massive audience/fanbase >perfect to inject their feminist diversity crap to reach a lot of people
do you think anyone would give this a chance if it wasn't attached to a popular IP?
This is a complete shill cope lie. The show does not contain enough lore and world building to properly explain what is happening. The only way it is possible to understand it, is from having prior knowledge from the books. If you have prior knowledge, then you will know how incorrect everything is. Its terrible all over, even if you havent read the books.
I think they should just own up to it. They keep making excuse of not having enough time but we get a ton of OC subplots. The whole "It's another turning of the wheel cope" and "Unreliable narrator" only goes so far too. The only thing to cement them being homosexuals is making Egwene the Amaresu or something.
No they actually cram shitloads of sex in. It's basically nonstop, but it's all interracial gay sex. Some interracial lezdomming, but it's with 50 year old women.
The Champion of Light in a turning that there's no Dragon. A lot of trannies and newcomers to the series who haven't read the book latched onto her even though she's just a two sentence throwaway character that shows up once.
How are these people even finding out about Amaresu? I almost never saw it mentioned in discussions until the show started. Even then it's pretty sparse.
Hey I'm here to remind everyone that Graendal would have spectacular breast milk, the true crime is we'll never get to drink it or see her played by a thicc as frick mommy milf.
I for one am glad the split is gone in the show. But I wonder how they'll explain why only men go crazy. Actually do they even go crazy? Logain seemed pretty normal.
but its not gone they just refuse to say it, but you have moraine arranging for Logain to teach Lan and then you have Rand embracing the source to she the tied of shield on moraine, the other aes sedai couldn't see it, it is their but they keep dancing around actually saying it
you cannot seriously think this when the show mentions atleast 4 times that being gentled/stilled completly saps your will to live
(although its a stupid premise in the first place because im sure Logain is crafty enough to kill himself without a knife)
Since gentling is brought up does anyone else remember an interview with Robert Jordan that "gentling" a man in an early draft involved gelding them? Or was that something I dreamt.
>https://gizmodo.com/adapting-the-wheel-of-time-for-tv-is-an-epic-all-its-ow-1848026456 >Judkins: I think—well, I can’t tell you all of them, but in the books, there’s an idea that if you’re born as a man in one life, you’d be born as a man in the next life in the show. We’re not doing that. I'm sure Robert Jordan would'nt have done it either had he wrote the books today. Anyway we’re approaching it as you are a soul and you move through different bodies through whatever life that you’re in.
>I'm sure Robert Jordan would'nt have done it either
what a fricking homosexual, how are you sure you dickhead, you aren't you just make it up, I'm sure RJ would track you down and murder you if he was alive today
My question to people that think this way...is why did he write it the way he did? If the trends of the time were such an influence, what were they? Why are they different now? When did they change? Why did they change? Why at the time then did Robert Jordan feel such a concept was solid enough to frame an entire massive story on?
>I'm sure Robert Jordan would'nt have done it either
what a fricking homosexual, how are you sure you dickhead, you aren't you just make it up, I'm sure RJ would track you down and murder you if he was alive today
frankly, what gives Judkins the right to speak for an author that has been dead for decades like that?
If Rafe doesnt include the scene where Elayne gets horny af for Rand's dick and then he knocks her up with twins and Birgitte and Aviendha get all hot and bothered because due to their Bond with Elayne they also feel the intense orgasm she experienced im not gonna even bother watching this show
what he specifically said was polyamory which I had to look and basically means open relationship, so sure rand could get with his 3 but they will also be fricking other people, so fricking stupid
I believe he said it's gonna be Polyamorous
So Perrin is gonna be nailing Ahviendha, Mat's going to be nailing Min, And Egwene gets Elayne
Rand gets to eat them out afterwards.
It's going to be poly in favor of the women not Rand. Mark my words. But if I'm wrong don't.
>but if I'm wrong don't
Have more confidence in yourself bro, with any luck, this abomination won't make it that far, but if it does, Rand is gonna be wearing a wiener cage
I believe he said it's gonna be Polyamorous
So Perrin is gonna be nailing Ahviendha, Mat's going to be nailing Min, And Egwene gets Elayne
Rand gets to eat them out afterwards.
nope but if I was forced at gun point to say something positive, the weaving isn't as awful as s1, thats it oh and surprisingly the trollocs don't look too bad
look up the definition of the word decent
i dunno, i still have vivid memories of the first sand snake fight in GoT and compared to that WoTs fight choreography is Oscar worthy
its still pathetic, lets they actually spent time on the made up avi and perrin v bornhald and the WC, could've been really cool, hell they could have spammed clips of that online to draw in viewers, as it stands its dog shit
7 months ago
Anonymous
that scene suffered mostly because they writers boner for the aeils combat prowess but it gets especially funny when Dain say "attack her all at once she already killed over 9000 of our men" but then they attack her 1 or 2 people at the time and also Dain just stands there looking at it
also the WC had to been laying in wait for perrin to unlock the cage, like they had the completly surrounded and battle ready as soon as aviendha stepped out
AND the cherry on top is that they spare Dain with the excuse that he gave the aiel water
its so fricking bad (good)
7 months ago
Anonymous
no the really cherry was yet another >tee hee see an axe tee hee you think perrins going to use it? lol subverted
I like how that guy from first season just left. Just stood in front of everybody and just left. It would be better if they didn't recast him, like if he just left cause he didn't need this moronic shit in his life, risking his life cause some weird elderly lady told them to.
the actor had read the books and noped the frick out, funnily enough Rands actor has also started reading the books and is lowkey shitting on the show now
Why did they. So where they going. For so the lovie ointerst for Rand not. SMin. They thaged up the poepl for the rfitnest? Lie Min is a dbit oo old for Rand and Elayne is setup to be Egwenr iabutt budy. Wait is it bu sirss wtgor wom? So that leaves just Avienda for Rand.
get this initially they tried to justify it by saying he saw a ta'veren glow, then they back peddled on that and now its >logain's Talent is seeing weaves
I don't know if it's just me getting old but is it me or are a lot of the show watchers on the younger side based off their comments? Also none of them seem to be the conventional fans of fantasy either and keep making up quippy marvel style scenarios for everything when speculating the next episode.
where ever you are discussing it who the frick cares? you are talking to children on reddit and w/e else you are, here we read the books when they came out more or less, for me I read the series when it was on PoD I waited for WH
we the ones posting have been having these threads since before the show was announced, we are the only ones watching it and we fricking hate as we knew we would from the moment it was announced, the /wot/ threads have been here since before you ever knew this site existed
I have been posting more than almost anyone from the beginning and I have not watched a single second of the show and I never will. If you think even half of the people in these threads actually watch this shit you are delusional.
>I have not watched a single second of the show
good don't its awful >from the beginning
from the beginning of this shitshow or the beginning of our threads? which are far far older then this shit
7 months ago
Anonymous
>from the beginning of this shitshow or the beginning of our threads?
From whenever this show ended up on Cinemaphile's radar. Long before the show was live.
7 months ago
Anonymous
oh so your one of those, ok your alright in my book
7 months ago
Anonymous
I know I should just ignore the shit I hate but I just can't leave be my favorite series getting turned to shit.
oh yea ok ,fair enough you mean the ones that actually like this shit? yep your right, and this is just one person but the only one I know who likes it is my older sister 43, and no she's not a wine aunt she's got a kid and a husband job etc. but she likes it for some reason while acknowledging its trash she likes vampire diary's for instance, so middle aged wine aunts and older ladies who like fantasy trash and apparently zoomers
so season 7 will come out in 2033. rand's actor will be 38 (22 in the books), lanfear's actress will be 46, moiraine will almost definitely be recast, maybe multiple times, by then and the actress would be 53 by then anyway
you cant take that much time between seasons when the story itself is pretty fast paced time wise
so you pay no attention to streaming numbers or what shows have lasted vs not, got it. ROPe might last long enough to finish due to their level of investment, this has no chance in hell.
based on what? female intuition? with all evidence to the contrary.
7 months ago
Anonymous
male intuition, but its funny that you think that because i disagree with you im a woman
but bookmark this and get back to me in a few years if your right and ill admit i was wrong
7 months ago
Anonymous
it’s more the blind certainty with zero evidence in how you present it that makes it come off that way.
notice how you still haven’t presented any. and no I don’t think you are a women, but you sound like someone who pretends to be.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>clearly states "im a man" >"you sounds like someone who pretends to be a woman"
serious question, are you, perhaps, alittle bit moronic?
to answer your question, the walking dead went on for like 6 season way past its due date, made several spin offs, all of them worse than the one before
dont underestimate IPs with an excisting fanbase
7 months ago
Anonymous
>a show on a completely different network with completely different audience figures at a completely different time in a completely different genre lasted, so wheel of time is guaranteed to!
and you call others moronic >omg you don’t believe me so you must be moronic!
more womanlogic, despite the fact you’ll never be a real woman. kek
I remember reading about the casting for Lews Therin. Apparently that actor wasn't really interested and declined the invitation. But Rafe talked about how they asked him another two times until he finally relented. But my question is why?
For what else you have done, there can be no forgiveness, Bezos, but for this show I will destroy you beyond anything your master can repair. Prepare to-
What happens in a turning where everyone does nothing. The Forsaken are all regular joes who do nothing. The Champions of Light does nothing. Nothing happens.
its an age of peace obviously, nothing major happens, the DO is locked away and peolle just get on with their lives, that age ends with the discovery of the OP and then...
Robert Jordan states from this own mouth, that because he's American, he believes that he's at least partially able to borrow from any culture that is a part of America's mixing pot. From his perspective, his world doesn't have ethnic boundaries.
7 months ago
Anonymous
As I said, nobody is perfect. We're all paying the price for the mistakes our ancestors made in 1619.
I read the books like 3 times and I'm on my 4th re-read and I just can't figure out why you people are so mad about what he's doing? He was obviously always dark. Is it just because he doesn't have 1 eye? That's just impractical to expect and actor to wear an eyepatch.
Yes and yes. Book 4, shadow rising, is about 700 pages of them boning in every position imaginable. Then moiraine gets jealous and pushes her into a magic door
tfw Rand didn't end up with Cyndane especially with how the show is casting its characters
What the frick were they thinking making Avhienda the ugliest of the Aiel? Every other girl is a normal redhead, even Rand's mom, and then Aviehnda looks like a dog.
why is she randomly brown?
why are you so racist?
Tired of Black folk and shits being forced into my country and committing crimes then having to look upon their hellish visage in media makes me double sick
>Tired of Black folk and shits b-ACK
she's a dog
that's perrin
thye're both dogs
It's just a tan from the harsh sun in the Three Fold land, pale wetlander.
It was a personal insult against book fans who asked for Avi to stay a redhead
Holy shit there's no way she's the middle one right? Please say sike.
Lol
It's the future anon what did you think would happen?
I can't believe those 20 years spent dreaming of a live version of one of my favorite book series would turn out like this. I hate this so much, it hurts so much. Of all the things they could ruin why did it have to be this one? I hate being so helpless against this evil, there's nothing I can say or do to change it. Why does evil almost always win and get to gloat about it at the same time? I'm tired man.
Evil didn't win. Show is shit, books are better.
Evil won by stealing what could have been, what should have been. Sure we still have the books they can't take those from us (yet), but the new generation will only know of the story from the show and that is a terrible thing.
>Most wealthy corporation in the world, known for it's exploitative business practices, creates a branch for cinematic entertainment, wherein it purchases the rights to some of the most beloved IPs. They go on to tarnish these IPs by injecting intersectional feminist politics. Not only ruining what they have now, and burning their own money, but also potentially harming the image of these IPs rendering them unprofitable for the foreseeable future. Destroying any chance of seeing a decent adaptation within our lifetime.
Looks pretty evil to me.
It really is painful. Like watching siuan shield rand effortlessly
> Of all the things they could ruin why did it have to be this one?
Don't worry. They're ruining everything else too.
I can't believe rand is going to lose his virginity to a nurgle daemon.
nah theyre gonna make avi and elayne lesbos
I like that Hollywood literally goes out of its way to cast ugly women now Kek
is the show setting it up so that mat+min, aviendha+perrin? so rand only gets elayne? my memories from the books are vague, but that seems like a very moronic move
No, they'll all be in homosexual polyamorous 'relationships'.
kek
so you're telling me there will be a scene where rand, mat and perrin has a passionate three way?
how progressive, im sure the audince will nod approvingly
Look at the scene of Perrin and Rand arguing in season 1, you can't tell me that Perrin doesn't want Rand to buck-break him.
Go to sleep esl
Nothing about that was ESL, go read a book you illiterate.
Silly Samegay
do not REDEEM BENCHOD BASTERD b***h
i see it now, the women will do that "i dont belong to no man!" while fricking 3 guys at the same time meanwhile rand, mat and perrin will sheepisly go along with sharing
perrin will atleast go along with it, his whole character screams one-woman loyalty
mat will be happy either way, as long as he gets his dick wet
rand, however, would never accept that bullshit so i wonder how they will try and justify that in the show
That is NOT what happened. How dare you? What if someone believes you?
Then they can read it
In the meantime
Min has 9 eyes.
Personally I just assumed she had 3 eyes since she can see peoples futures. It's never explicitly stated she has only 2. Min is asain and has 3 eyes.
And I'm only allowing knowledge from the first sentence she's introduced.
lmao. Still bitter about getting owned on that topic? Yes, I'm lurking the thread. You wanna fight about it?
>I'm bleeding first, making me the victor
I'm sure on some planet your style is quite impressive. But your weak link is- this is earth.
>S-still bitter?
Bro you lost that shit.
Nah, I won.
We both agreed Min is white. We disagreed on whether or not it was obvious that Min was white in the beginning of the story. Your arguments all relied on information that came from books 4 and 7. So they were dismissed.
The good one argument you had, was questioning if the book showed any significant signs of eastern influences starting from the beginning of EotW to the chapter when Min is introduced. To witch I listed multiple signs of eastern influence.
You then started pointing out Arthurian influence. Which is mostly irrelevant. Because the Arthurian influence doesn't erase eastern influences. But not only that, the Arthurian influences you were pointing out were mainly names of people and places. Which is funny, because earlier in the argument, you tried to argue that it's racist and ignorant to assume "Min" is an Asian name. But now here you ok with assuming that al'Thor is an Arthurian name.
And now, I predict the next reply I get will say "Min is short for Elmindreda". Because that one hyper aggressive anon is a broken record and doesn't know how to follow conversations. He'll ignore the fact that we already addressed Min's whole name is revealed in Book 4.
It was a clean win. You guys ran out of arguments, I ultimately proved that Min's race at the beginning of the book is up to interpretation, and that Asian is a perfectly reasonable interpretation.
this isn't reddit your walls of text and massive cope are simply an embarrassment, go back
>this isn't reddit
Correct, so take your retroactive raceswapping back there.
damn you really desperate for someone to talk to aren't you? sorry maybe if you weren't such a delusional homosexual
didnt read lol
>"didn't tread, lol"
>Continues to monitor thread, checking back at every new post notification.
The better question is why do you want her to be race swapped?
I don't *want* her to be race swapped. I just don't care that she is, because I imagined her as Asian when I read the books. Ideally, sticking close to the book material is best. But if I had to rank changes between utterly unforgivable and totally acceptable, I would place Min's race change in the easily tolerable bracket.
Than why did they make her an ugly adult twice rands age?
Because they're Rafe's team are a bunch of Hollywood hacks, and the actress playing Min was Leaf in Game of Thrones. She has the higher acting credits and stronger connections, so she gets the part.
You listed 4 things, two of which weren't present before meeting Min, The other two were you hearing Lan's name and automatically thinking he's a fricking Samurai, the other was you unironically thinking CURVED SWORD = KATANA!?!?!??!?!?
You are literally brain dead.
don't engage with the shill
1. I mentioned the Aes Sedai symbol. Which is mentioned in the prologue. Lews Therin looks into a mirror, and takes note of the symbol on his cloak.
2. I mentioned that the very idea of the wheel of time invokes eastern mythology. Existence being circular and lives resurrecting. I backed this up with RJ stating as much in an interview. So the very framework that the entire world is built, is based on eastern philosophy. This isn't a small thing.
3. Lan was identified as a Samurai not strictly due to his name. In fact, I was not the one who originally invoked his name as being particularly Asian. One of you did. I said Lan was Asian because he appears like a samurai. By that I mean, his top knot, sword, and armor you see on the cover of the book. The armor is definitely a eastern style armor. No matter what Lan's eye color is, he wears a Samurai's armor.
4. Perrin's last name being Aybara. Sounds vaguely Japanesey
5. Cenn's name being pronounce "Sen" in the audiobook. Sounds vaguely Japanesey.
6. Moiraine's Kesiera. Third eye symbolism typical of the east.
7. The sword, while not exactly a katana. Is still a weapon that evokes the idea of a katana. Putting a cross guard on a curved sword is a blending of eastern and western weaponry, which is in line with WoT's blend of east and west cultures. This video demonstrates how simple it is to combine the blade of a katana with the hilt and guard of a western sword. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUAhztF7s04
The one guy, he's a soiboy like you. He just can't wrap his head around the idea, even while he's holding the sword in his hand. The other guy, he's cool like me. He easily adapts to this mixture and is able to appreciate the mix of features.
These are more than sufficient reasons to identify the story as having eastern influences before Min shows up. And I'm sure I'm missing more details. I could dig for more, but that would be too much work.
Imagine if you spent your time actually reading the books instead of doing word searches
I just finished the eye of the world the other day(for the 4th time), and now I'm reading the great hunt(3rd time)
Google "Abara", it pulls up a Japanese manga. It translates to "ribs".
Google "Sen", it means a thousand in Japanese. Like Sen's Fortress from Dark Souls.
there are no Japanese names or words in Wheel of Time. It is a completely bespoke world. While there may be similarities, to things found in our world...it an entirely fictional and complete world with its own nomenclature and characteristics.
Seanchan. Sean-chan. [word]-chan.
Asian.
Seanchan are not Asian...they are from a continent which is not Asia, on a planet that is not Earth, in a story that is completely fictional.
Asian influenced though.
>on a planet that is not Earth
The statue of liberty is literally turned into a super weapon.
Perin is a slavic name, close to Perun aka the god of thunder. And Aybara sounds like Ajvara, which is a slavic condiment.
Wow, look at that unrefutable proof that Wot is slavic.
Also gypsies go around slavic countries in house carriages that use wheels as depicted in Wot symbology combined with an ourobors in a shape of infinity which is not an eastern symbol.
Meaning that Jordan was warning us about the infinite gypsy problem.
>Perin is a slavic name, close to Perun aka the god of thunder. And Aybara sounds like Ajvara, which is a slavic condiment.
I mean, if that's how you interpreted it, then I'm not going to tell you you're dumb for thinking that way.
>4. Perrin's last name being Aybara. Sounds vaguely Japanesey
>5. Cenn's name being pronounce "Sen" in the audiobook. Sounds vaguely Japanesey.
You sound vaguely morone
The most selling fantasy series of all time and the most watched fantasy show of all time, rafe Judkins has really blessed us with his exquisite authorship of the entire series. Awards will pour in as well deserved.
Rand is a pussy ass b***h and hopefully lanfear fricks some sense into him. He needs to get his dick wet and stop being such a gay
I think the latest episode is the only actually good one of the series so far. Yet for some reason redditgays hate it more than the others and love the other episodes.
Maybe it's because I'm show only
I also loved how siuan, who we know has given 25 years of her life on a quest to save the world immediately says frick it and shields the world's strongest channeler without blinking
Is this an esl impression or are you actually one of...those "people"?
Listen I am so sick and tired of Moiraine in this show. MY g*d. She wasn't even STILLED. Treated every single person around her bad, every single one. And for what? Her attitude these last 7 episodes was either badly acted or fricking moronic. I mean look at Liandrin. Liandrin is a fricking b***h, a huge one. Evil as frick too. But even Liandrin is more likeable. I actually have huge respect for Liandrin as a character.
Moiraine? Nah, kept the same exact face for everything for 7 episodes straight. Smiles when Rand removes the shield, then returns to that stupid fricking face as she lets Siuan die....for what?
They greatly tuned down the man-hating in this show and squeezed it in when they dumped the soon-to-be king Damodred in a cell. I was so pissed at how stupid the scene was. Took some old bag ass lady 2 seconds to get down into the basement to eavesdrop. Then the idiot believes the guards' when they say they have Moiraine, which makes me think Liandrin set him up by saying she's in a cell.
Did we not go through all this Moiraine and her sister drama for her to go back to worshiping Moiraine. Who gives a frick.
Then Egwene taking 5 million years to pour a glass of water. What for? She really couldn't just be rational and pour the fricking water FOR HERSELF.
Nynaeve as always shining brightly in the show, I like that they are trying to grow her as a character even if she's being really rash, but you know she will save her friends no matter what.
Rand actually pretty decent, I like him and Lanfear together.
Lan is a little b***h, I completely lost respect for him. He has this revelation that Moiraine isn't stilled then doesn't leave the key as if Logain hunted them, when it was them hunting him.
But in all honest frick moiraine, they wasted so muhc screen time on her. And Egwene is so fricking ugly man, I enjoyed watching Egwene and Moiraine get humbled and blown the frick out. They both deserve it.
>the only good actors on this show are Ishamael and Lanfear
what did Rafe mean by this?
This show is fricking embarrassing on every level. The night scenes are so dark that you can't see anything, the costumes look like shit and sometimes achronistic. There's repeated scenes in ep4. The motivations are moronic, the plot moves forward so they can check off their this happened in the book box, then continue going back to Maksim moping or verin sitting. It's fricking ridiculous! I can't understand how this show has gotten 3 seasons let alone given rafe yet another show.
it has a third season?? wtf
it was approved before s2 even released
someone at amazon really likes this shit apparently
>I can't understand how this show has gotten 3 seasons let alone given rafe yet another show.
usually adaptations are 3 year+ agreements to make it worth the licensing costs
hands cold, butthole hurts because hemorrhoids. Stick hands in ass. Problems solved.
Yellow shirt character is Rafe
I'm going to start treating these shill threads like inappropriate jogger threads. DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING
ITT
>homos
I just got to the part in book two, where Moiraine and Siuan talk for the first time. And Siuan starts reminiscing about their time as novices in the tower. One of the things she remembers them doing, is fantasizing about finding men, and they would be princes, and they would be strong enough to bear the power of an Aes Sedai. Basically, the very first meeting they have establishes they're not gay.
Meanwhile, in the show, Moiraine and Siuan fantasize about telling their families of their gayness.
They're prison gay
if you experiment now, you're hard coded gay
The people that made this show are the same people that wrote 500 pages of fan fiction of sam and frodo buttfricking because they think any same sex friendship has to be sexual.
Robert Jordan devoted at least 100 pages to women getting spanked. It's a trash series anyway
You're right, it should have been 500 pages.
This is canon according to pic related
>The term pillow-friends refers to a homosexual relationship between two individuals, most commonly between two women. It is most prevalent in the White Tower.
https://wot.fandom.com/wiki/Pillow_friends
Pillow friends =/= "I can't wait to tell my parents about us"
some were more into their pillowfriends than others. some "grew out of it" when they became accepted and others wanted to keep it going
moron
This paragraph really muddies the waters. First of all, there are no sexual implications in this paragraph. It says that they are pillow friends, however, it doesn't say what they did to be considered pillow friends. It only talks about hijinks they go into. Pranks they played. And on the night they were to be raised to the Shawl? You would think they would be smashing their clams that night. Not playing pranks.
I have to question is pillow friend strictly means sexual, or if it's a broader term for girls who are very close, like best friends. In real life, it's not uncommon for girls to sleep in the same bed for comfort. It's completely platonic in 99% of cases. I don't know why we assume that every girl who shares a bed is automatically gay.
Secondly, even if they did have a sexual relationship, that doesn't make them gay. If their relationship really was so important to them, then their reminiscing wouldn't be about boys. It would be about each other. Or maybe other girls. But the fact that they both bond over dreaming about boys, prove that they're not gay, no matter how sexual their relationship might have been.
We know what pillow friends are. The passage says they are pillow friends.
You have to be moronic if you think it's still ambiguous.
>We know what pillow friends are
We know what pillow friend relationships are capable of being. It doesn't have to be a strictly sexual definition. It's like calling someone a carpenter. What do they actually build? Are they putting up whole houses? Or are they making chairs? Building decks? Like what's their thing within the field of carpentry? What does pillow friend actually mean.
Also, I would appreciate it if you read my whole post. I know you didn't, because I was vainly reading my own post back when you replied. There's no way you really processed what I said and typed your own post in 43 seconds.
>Pillow friends are not just good friends. Oh, they are that, too, but they also get hot and sweaty together and muss up the sheets something fierce. By the way, pillow friends is a term used in the White Tower. The same relationship between men or women elsewhere would be called something else, depending on the country.
You're moronic and in denial.
No, I'm convinced. If the man said it himself. Here's the source, btw: https://dragonmount.com/blogs/entry/326-yet-another-post/
No need to call me a moron, just because I haven't read some random blog post from 2005.
Yeah, no kidding. He successfully persuaded me on only one point. But didn't even bother reading the other point. So now he's going to continue thinking he got me and call me a moron again. Despite the fact that he's only done half the work.
The point is what was supposed to be a reference to young girls experimenting in college and given nothing more than a line or two has to be twisted into modern perverse anything but straight white sexuality pushed to the extreme. I'm tired of it, I'm tired of sex being a stand in for actual meaningful relationships.
Yeah. I agree for the most part. That's why I brought it up in the first place. I was pointing out another bastardization of the material.
But even so, I'm not a super WoT expert myself. So I questioned the interpretation of a paragraph that looked muddy and uncertain to me.
If that's how you truly feel, then you would have agreed with the second point I made in my post. The point you didn't read.
there is no indication in the show that they are still lovers, only that they have a stronger connection due to being pillow sisters AND being allies in trying to find the dragon
all lesbianism was in flashbacks, not the current day
Not true. They still frick and kiss and show affection in modern day.
Also, their flashbacks in show are more involved than their experience as novices in the books. Because as mentioned before, they were fantasizing about boys, despite their sexual experiences. But in the show, they're fantasizing about formalizing their own relationship.
Not in the book they don't.
I was talking about the show.
Literally just google "Moiraine and Siuan kissing" and you can watch the scenes for yourself.
that's from the past dumbfrick. it's pre-prophecy
Listen, man. I know you're desperate to keep your thread up. But I'm really getting sick of your over the top aggro attitude. Calm the frick down. Stop making everything sound so dire.
You're wrong. the image I posted is from modern day. The fricking scene happened last season.
No, the scene in Friday's episode was a flashback. You're just wrong.
>They still frick and kiss and show affection in modern day.
no they dont you fricking moron. stop making shit up
Why would he take into context your whole post when he can just cherry pick the part that makes his opinion seem correct?
I don't need to read the rest of the post when the second sentence is non-canon both in-universe and according to the author.
Your concession has been duly accepted.
I still haven't read the rest of your post and you are still wrong.
Actual moron
Why do you do this shit
Moiraine and Suian were not pillow friends.
I don't care. Lanfear is hot.
*for a grandmother
unfortunally its near impossible to cast young women who can act in such a way that actually feel dominant on screen
perfect example is daenerys and cersei, whenever the story for danny was about her YASS QUEEN slaying it always felt lika child trying to boss around people and it just looks stupid that grown hardened men would go along with it
monica belluci could've pulled it off even 20 years ago
She was old 20 years ago. She would have been 39.
so perfect for lanfear then?
Very pretty, but still noticeably aged. Lanfear was the most beautiful woman ever.(She's not really my type, but still) She would have a more youthful face.
jfc what a gay, ok fine go down another 10 years
Could she even act back then? that's all the way back in 1993. According to IMDB, she only has 4 acting credits under her belt back then.
Can she even act today? To be honest, I never seen her in anything. What are her qualifications for acting dominant? Sure, she has a good presence. She's perfected the model's smoldering look. But when models speak, they reveal themselves as bimbos.
None of this matters in truth, because we don't have a time machine, and can't grab 1993 Monica.
yes she could she already had a history a long history in theater, and yes she can absolutely act dominate and could then, but w/e you asked for perfect casting I gave it too you
>big tiddy goth isnt my type
im seriously curious how thats not any straight mans type
I don't prefer tall girls. For me, the most beautiful woman in the world would be between 5'4 and 5'0. Basically the heights between Moiraine and Eqwene.
I was referring to Lanfear not being my type. If you interpret that as Monica not being my type, well you're kind of right but for the wrong reasons. I personally don't imagine Lanfear looking like Monica in my head. To me, she has a slimmer face. I don't find square jaws to be the *most* beautiful. Sure, beautiful women can have square jaws. But Lanfear is supposed to represent perfection in all things. And 11/10. And so to me, that means a less defined jawline. So I wasn't even imagining Lanfear looking like Monica when I said Lanfear isn't my type. I was imagining Lanfear's height. Which is tall. Coincidentally, Monica is a little on the tall side too.(for a woman) So that's another degree away from perfection.
Don't get me wrong, I was infatuated with Monica Bellucci when I was younger. That's why despite never having seen her movies, I knew who she was. She's just not my idea of perfection.
>monica isn't my type
how is it possible that she isn't every mans type? and probably a lot of women too? wtf? pillow biter are you?
and still mogs
She's a 36 year old actress not a 36 year old Republican congresswoman
My cousin continues trying to persuade me to watch this show. Going on about how it’s gotten rid of some of the “problematic” aspects of the books. I still haven’t watched fricking any of this and every single thread filled with this woke shit vindicates my decision.
Slap her in the face the next time you see her then throw her in a bush and rape the shit out of her. If you don't assert dominance now she is going to live a horrible life.
who cares its a garbage show
>immediately cuts to eggwene
gee what did they mean by this
Instead of cleansing saidin Rand and Nynaeve are gonna transfer the "mantle of The Dragon" to Egwene and she's gonna go full girlboss and get it done.
rand is gonna plant the son of the dragon and they will defeat the dark one and live happily ever after
Nah. Rand is gonna die. Lan will die too, and Nynaeve will either be a single mom or she'll end up with a black guy. Commie tools cannot allow family to be shown in a positive light.
>Nynaeve
you mean Elayne
rand will turn lanfear to good with the power of wiener
nah lanfear will turn rand evil (he already basically is) and egwene will save rand
no woman can resist the wiener
its lanfear's wiener that does the turning
is that why she mastered telaran'rhiod? damn
realistically, why didn’t they rape the hell out of him in the book? why didn’t they start a 1-man breeding program and force rand to impregnate every woman with channeling abilities? force him to knock up egwene and nynaeve too. just an absolute squadron. what a sound investment in the future it would be.
*books
>realistically, why didn’t they rape the hell out of him in the book? why didn’t they start a 1-man breeding program and force rand to impregnate every woman with channeling abilities?
Because they're moronic and don't know shit about heredity. They've been culling the channeling genes for centuries by making all channeler women into Aes Sedai dykes/femcels and then wonder why there are so few new recruits.
which turned out to be waste of time since you couldnt actually breed the ability to channel out, only make it sorta non-dominant, but it people still had it anyway
so dumb. Imagine the fricking army of powerful chandeliers they would have, even if they only limited it to whoever was in the white tower at the time.
wont get to that point but I believe it would happen
Despite how much i want it to die, is it actually doing poorly? I don't know a single person who watches it but 800 billion Indians might watch it because what'sername is in it
nah its doing horrendously bad. Only shills and wot addicted bookgays are talking about it but. It's basically destroyed the fanbase and hasn't captured a new one.
I mean I saw it had 500M minutes viewed on Nielsen? Which only counts people who watched it over 2 minutes... if theoretically everyone watched the 3 episodes it was tracking, 2.8 million people watched through ep 3. Seems bad for what they want the show to be, but supernatural ran for 10 seasons on 900,000 people. It might also only track us households so maybe it is popular in India or wherever
Season 2 is actually doing much worse than Season 1.
Sauce: A Reddit thread with a comment section running on copium.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WoTshow/comments/16v1ljr/analysis_of_wot_s2_nielsen_numbers_compared_to/
>those comments
>that one saying I'm mad because people shit on starfield
How does someone become like this? What happens in their lives?
lmao
these people are so embarrassing
I feel like Sam Neil at the end of mouth of madness. I'm the last sane person in a world full of fricking cannibal morons
Yeah, the show has basically ruined the WoT subreddits, it's basically an 'Emperor's New Clothes' situation where you have to pretend nothing is wrong
uh how fricking stupid are they? that doesn't work, rewatches aren't counted as their is no financial gain
Amazon might just dump season 3 with no fanfare to try and save on marketing lmao what a disaster
has there even been any marketing for this season?
No but they're using covid as an excuse still.
Amazon greenlit 3 seasons to it may be possible. Especially with viewership going down 50% this season and how Rafe confirmed every season has a 2 year period in between. Don't get why he'd want to dedicate 16 years of his life on this though.
I think Amazon paying shills to delete negativity is actually going to hurt them. It gives the impression that the show is doing better than it really is which will cause a continuous drop off per season.
which is unfortunate because season 2 is much better, i would even go so far to say its kino (cringekino)
but first season was so dull i get why people wouldnt give season 2 a chance
I assume they're hoping it could be a game of thrones situation where it didn't really pick up with the normies until a few seasons in and then became huge
>they're hoping it could be a game of thrones
they are so deluded that they legitimately think they've made another GoT
Amaresu.
Amaresu is not the Dragon
She is now. Rafe has foretold it. They're pushing very heavy on the whole unreliable narrator thing. Egwene is Rafe's favorite character. The Dragon is not the Champion of Light but the Amaresu.
Its clear the show will do whatever it wants...but...
The Dragon is the Male Champion of the Light. It is always the same soul wether it functions as the Dragon or not. The Female Champion of the Light is Amaresu. Souls cannot change gender., so it is impossible for Amaresu to the Dragon, even if a Female Champion is needed.
Souls aren't gendered in the show canon.
souls can change gender though, theres some forsaken that get genderswapped
dont talk like you know if you havent read the books
They literally can't, that happens in the book and the guys soul is still male, it's a plot point.
idiot they still have a male soul in a female body thats why they stil use saidin instead of saidar you utter frickwit
You're not remembering it right. That one the Dark One taking the soul and putting it into a woman's body because he's a dick. That is an abomination.
No sir, souls cannot change gender. A male forsaken gets put in a female body and still uses Saidin. This a not insignificant part of the story in the middle books.
you can change your body but you cannot change what you are. troons forever btfo
You'd think they'd actually be all for the soul split if anything. It would give them irrefutable proof that they are indeed in the wrong body then they feel.
>I am actually a woman. See I can using Saidin!
Instead they do away with the split and now they have no proof but feels again.
why everyone is so fricking ugly
This flaming turd of a series does not deserve a general.
>the collars are unbreakable unlike shielding/stilling
dumb as frick
Elayne!
What the frick did they do with this show. I've been reading through the books and decided to give it a try and holy shit it's so bad. I understand having to change things around for a tv show but if you're going to change the plot this much why even use the IP?
the writers obviously don't like the books and they don't want to just adapt something because they probably feel like they're not real writers unless they add something new
as a result we get original scenes of original characters doing shit completely irrelevant to the main cast and the plot
>we need to condense the storyline because there's so much to tell, so some things will obviously need to get cut
>also, here's an entire episode dedicated to a made up warder dying because he doesn't want to be gay
it's really amazing how much screen time they waste on pointless stuff while rushing through everything good
>popular IP
>massive audience/fanbase
>perfect to inject their feminist diversity crap to reach a lot of people
do you think anyone would give this a chance if it wasn't attached to a popular IP?
haven't read the books and won't but i like the show. it's nothing ground breaking but pretty fun fantasy show to watch
This is a complete shill cope lie. The show does not contain enough lore and world building to properly explain what is happening. The only way it is possible to understand it, is from having prior knowledge from the books. If you have prior knowledge, then you will know how incorrect everything is. Its terrible all over, even if you havent read the books.
It's so bizarre trying to figure out why they're going to falme.
I think they should just own up to it. They keep making excuse of not having enough time but we get a ton of OC subplots. The whole "It's another turning of the wheel cope" and "Unreliable narrator" only goes so far too. The only thing to cement them being homosexuals is making Egwene the Amaresu or something.
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Let me guess, not only this show has weird, multiculti casting that doesn't fit the setting but also they remove the sexual parts, lezdom scenes?
No they actually cram shitloads of sex in. It's basically nonstop, but it's all interracial gay sex. Some interracial lezdomming, but it's with 50 year old women.
... we're living in the Age where Shai'tan won, aren't we bros?
Unfortunately that seems to be the case.
I remember this Q&A session. I already had my doubts about the adaptation, but this was the point I realised I would not be watching it.
>lol whos the dragon reborn
>lol is moiraine stilled or shielded
wow such mystery much engagement, truly fricking riveting
If I was Rand, I'd capture Moggy and collar her and make her make hundreds of my babies for the rest of her life, also I'd spank her a lot.
>Amaresu
literally who
The Champion of Light in a turning that there's no Dragon. A lot of trannies and newcomers to the series who haven't read the book latched onto her even though she's just a two sentence throwaway character that shows up once.
no wonder I have no recollection of her. Cant wait until egwene is proclaimed champion
How are these people even finding out about Amaresu? I almost never saw it mentioned in discussions until the show started. Even then it's pretty sparse.
no doubt combed the wiki for any female heroes
by reading the WoT wiki without reading the books
Hey I'm here to remind everyone that Graendal would have spectacular breast milk, the true crime is we'll never get to drink it or see her played by a thicc as frick mommy milf.
wow they really captured the ethereal and otherwordly beauty of Lanfear from the books huh
She looked pretty good when she was in disguise. I don't get why they made her look so much older as Lanfear.
I for one am glad the split is gone in the show. But I wonder how they'll explain why only men go crazy. Actually do they even go crazy? Logain seemed pretty normal.
please explain why the split being gone is good? How did the split negatively effect expansive story Robert Jordan created around it?
but its not gone they just refuse to say it, but you have moraine arranging for Logain to teach Lan and then you have Rand embracing the source to she the tied of shield on moraine, the other aes sedai couldn't see it, it is their but they keep dancing around actually saying it
>but its not gone they just refuse to say it
Why?
because their moronic
>Logain seemed pretty normal
he's also been gentled and doesnt seem to be effected by that at all
he's batshit and also wanted moraine's knife to kill himself
no, moiraine implied he wanted the knife. He has never indicated he wanted to kill himself
you cannot seriously think this when the show mentions atleast 4 times that being gentled/stilled completly saps your will to live
(although its a stupid premise in the first place because im sure Logain is crafty enough to kill himself without a knife)
yeah they have said that yet logain seems fine. Which is also the reason who who plot line of moiraine being stilled or shielded was moronic
Since gentling is brought up does anyone else remember an interview with Robert Jordan that "gentling" a man in an early draft involved gelding them? Or was that something I dreamt.
>https://gizmodo.com/adapting-the-wheel-of-time-for-tv-is-an-epic-all-its-ow-1848026456
>Judkins: I think—well, I can’t tell you all of them, but in the books, there’s an idea that if you’re born as a man in one life, you’d be born as a man in the next life in the show. We’re not doing that. I'm sure Robert Jordan would'nt have done it either had he wrote the books today. Anyway we’re approaching it as you are a soul and you move through different bodies through whatever life that you’re in.
>yeah we won't be doing that. We're not going to try to be faithful to the creator
>I'm sure Robert Jordan would'nt have done it either
what a fricking homosexual, how are you sure you dickhead, you aren't you just make it up, I'm sure RJ would track you down and murder you if he was alive today
>The Iceman comes out of retirement, for one last job...
My question to people that think this way...is why did he write it the way he did? If the trends of the time were such an influence, what were they? Why are they different now? When did they change? Why did they change? Why at the time then did Robert Jordan feel such a concept was solid enough to frame an entire massive story on?
frankly, what gives Judkins the right to speak for an author that has been dead for decades like that?
A lot of directors do that shit. They did it for Toiken too and they'll do it for George RR Martin when he passes away too.
I haven't read the books and am a showgay. Was Jordan a particularly progressive person that would've agreed with this?
He murdered Vietnamese for entertainment as a young adult...what do you think?
RJ was named Iceman for a reason, also Rand has 3 wives because RJ had 2 and he figured if he could get 2 then the messiah should at least have 3
yeah absolutely he would agree with it that's why the wrote the exact opposite in his books
I feel bad for WoTbros ...sooner or later its going to happen to BoTNS
Nah, Malazan is gonna happen first.
If Rafe doesnt include the scene where Elayne gets horny af for Rand's dick and then he knocks her up with twins and Birgitte and Aviendha get all hot and bothered because due to their Bond with Elayne they also feel the intense orgasm she experienced im not gonna even bother watching this show
Rafe confirmed Rand's harem isn't happening. He's only getting one girl and it's not gonna be a monogamous one either.
what he specifically said was polyamory which I had to look and basically means open relationship, so sure rand could get with his 3 but they will also be fricking other people, so fricking stupid
It's going to be poly in favor of the women not Rand. Mark my words. But if I'm wrong don't.
>but if I'm wrong don't
Have more confidence in yourself bro, with any luck, this abomination won't make it that far, but if it does, Rand is gonna be wearing a wiener cage
oh absolutely
I would have more confidence in an opinion that has about a 99% chance of being accurate.
I believe he said it's gonna be Polyamorous
So Perrin is gonna be nailing Ahviendha, Mat's going to be nailing Min, And Egwene gets Elayne
Rand gets to eat them out afterwards.
bot/shill thread
He's baiting for more replies for his thread.
Don't entertain him.
How is Rafe going to handle Aran'gar? Will he just make him a troony?
Won't exist in the show
simple it just won't happen
Egwene is going to get headaches from a man nagging at her.
lol if they ever get that far, they won't it will thankfully be cancelled after s3, but if they ever did then yep thats what they'd do
Egwene will learn from Lan a secret way for her to weave the male half of the power.
Is there anything from the show you anons like?
No, there isn't a single part they haven't debased.
nope but if I was forced at gun point to say something positive, the weaving isn't as awful as s1, thats it oh and surprisingly the trollocs don't look too bad
the CGI and special effects are pretty good for a tv show
also the fight choreography is decent, i mean if you compare it to the later seasons of """top""" tier shows like GoT
>also the fight choreography is decent
no it fricking isn't its 100 jumpcuts, we literally haven't seen a single well choreographed fight
look up the definition of the word decent
i dunno, i still have vivid memories of the first sand snake fight in GoT and compared to that WoTs fight choreography is Oscar worthy
lol compared to that pretty much anything would be that was student film tier
>100 jumpcuts
thats how they do it, you shoot the scene 5 times from 5 different angles then you cobble together someting passable in the editing room
i dont think the number of jumpcuts was jarring though, was like your average hollywood production
its still pathetic, lets they actually spent time on the made up avi and perrin v bornhald and the WC, could've been really cool, hell they could have spammed clips of that online to draw in viewers, as it stands its dog shit
that scene suffered mostly because they writers boner for the aeils combat prowess but it gets especially funny when Dain say "attack her all at once she already killed over 9000 of our men" but then they attack her 1 or 2 people at the time and also Dain just stands there looking at it
also the WC had to been laying in wait for perrin to unlock the cage, like they had the completly surrounded and battle ready as soon as aviendha stepped out
AND the cherry on top is that they spare Dain with the excuse that he gave the aiel water
its so fricking bad (good)
no the really cherry was yet another
>tee hee see an axe tee hee you think perrins going to use it? lol subverted
but they don't have too they are lazy look at one piece great fights
Yeah it reminded me of speedup kungfu kinos of the 80's
that whole scene where they try to restrain Loial and he tosses them around, its pretty cringe, but it looks perfectly fine
About the show? Obviously making Min Asian because that's how I always saw her.
killing perrin's wife
I like how that guy from first season just left. Just stood in front of everybody and just left. It would be better if they didn't recast him, like if he just left cause he didn't need this moronic shit in his life, risking his life cause some weird elderly lady told them to.
They might as well not have recast him because the character has done literally nothing
the actor had read the books and noped the frick out, funnily enough Rands actor has also started reading the books and is lowkey shitting on the show now
>funnily enough Rands actor has also started reading the books and is lowkey shitting on the show now
sauce on this? I need a laugh
too late i'll post next thread its kinda buried but in the last year he started reading them and commenting on the changes
Why did they. So where they going. For so the lovie ointerst for Rand not. SMin. They thaged up the poepl for the rfitnest? Lie Min is a dbit oo old for Rand and Elayne is setup to be Egwenr iabutt budy. Wait is it bu sirss wtgor wom? So that leaves just Avienda for Rand.
dnet adn Rand are Mnev to a wnof ges goot lan too far
What
exactly
What a fricking shitshow of a shit show.
When Nyn did her super saiyan moment why did Logain just watch her and not do anything. He could've easily taken her down in those 15 seconds.
Because the script needed him to.
men are not allowed to take down women. When women are going ham men must stand frozen in awe
How did he see what she was doing is the better question.
get this initially they tried to justify it by saying he saw a ta'veren glow, then they back peddled on that and now its
>logain's Talent is seeing weaves
I don't know if it's just me getting old but is it me or are a lot of the show watchers on the younger side based off their comments? Also none of them seem to be the conventional fans of fantasy either and keep making up quippy marvel style scenarios for everything when speculating the next episode.
Of course it is, no one who grew up reading books would watch this shit. Only zoomers who don't know better.
sounds like you spend too much time on reddit
You do realize that Reddit isn't the only place talking about the show anon. Stop seeing shadows on the wall.
where ever you are discussing it who the frick cares? you are talking to children on reddit and w/e else you are, here we read the books when they came out more or less, for me I read the series when it was on PoD I waited for WH
you spend too much time on reddit, you know the demographic for regular Cinemaphile posters is 30+ yea? for instant I'm 38
That does kinda make his point. We're all here hating on the show and it's the probably 16-24 year old zoomers loving it.
we the ones posting have been having these threads since before the show was announced, we are the only ones watching it and we fricking hate as we knew we would from the moment it was announced, the /wot/ threads have been here since before you ever knew this site existed
I have been posting more than almost anyone from the beginning and I have not watched a single second of the show and I never will. If you think even half of the people in these threads actually watch this shit you are delusional.
>I have not watched a single second of the show
good don't its awful
>from the beginning
from the beginning of this shitshow or the beginning of our threads? which are far far older then this shit
>from the beginning of this shitshow or the beginning of our threads?
From whenever this show ended up on Cinemaphile's radar. Long before the show was live.
oh so your one of those, ok your alright in my book
I know I should just ignore the shit I hate but I just can't leave be my favorite series getting turned to shit.
oh yea ok ,fair enough you mean the ones that actually like this shit? yep your right, and this is just one person but the only one I know who likes it is my older sister 43, and no she's not a wine aunt she's got a kid and a husband job etc. but she likes it for some reason while acknowledging its trash she likes vampire diary's for instance, so middle aged wine aunts and older ladies who like fantasy trash and apparently zoomers
16-24 year olds aren’t watching anything remotely longform in significant numbers. if you think otherwise you are delusional.
Cinemaphile posters are not watching the show
Christian Serratos should have been cast for Faile.
Reminder that thanks to the show all fan art going forward is going to be based off the actors in the show. Hope you like the casting friends!
there has been frick all fanart made with show casting and as soon as the show ends no one will make fanart of any of them ever again
14 years is a long time to say that.
14 years?
Rafe said it's 2 years per season as he's going to alternate directing GoW and WoT.
still dont see see where 14 years comes from but its irrelevant as its getting cancelled after season 3
so season 7 will come out in 2033. rand's actor will be 38 (22 in the books), lanfear's actress will be 46, moiraine will almost definitely be recast, maybe multiple times, by then and the actress would be 53 by then anyway
you cant take that much time between seasons when the story itself is pretty fast paced time wise
you think this show is lasting past 3-4 seasons? kek
I think it will yeah.
so you pay no attention to streaming numbers or what shows have lasted vs not, got it. ROPe might last long enough to finish due to their level of investment, this has no chance in hell.
pretty sure it will
based on what? female intuition? with all evidence to the contrary.
male intuition, but its funny that you think that because i disagree with you im a woman
but bookmark this and get back to me in a few years if your right and ill admit i was wrong
it’s more the blind certainty with zero evidence in how you present it that makes it come off that way.
notice how you still haven’t presented any. and no I don’t think you are a women, but you sound like someone who pretends to be.
>clearly states "im a man"
>"you sounds like someone who pretends to be a woman"
serious question, are you, perhaps, alittle bit moronic?
to answer your question, the walking dead went on for like 6 season way past its due date, made several spin offs, all of them worse than the one before
dont underestimate IPs with an excisting fanbase
>a show on a completely different network with completely different audience figures at a completely different time in a completely different genre lasted, so wheel of time is guaranteed to!
and you call others moronic
>omg you don’t believe me so you must be moronic!
more womanlogic, despite the fact you’ll never be a real woman. kek
I remember reading about the casting for Lews Therin. Apparently that actor wasn't really interested and declined the invitation. But Rafe talked about how they asked him another two times until he finally relented. But my question is why?
Because they needed to have an excuse to replace rands actor with a black actor in later seasons.
Lews' actor is swedish. of course he's white
I dunno, he looks Polish to me.
im swedish and i had never seen him before so i googled him and apperently he's dutch (not much of a difference to be fair)
Because they might have had to ask a white man to do the role otherwise.
The nice thing to the show is we're having WOT threads on Cinemaphile.
we always have nu-gay you just weren't invited
Fourteen years! You pitiful homosexual! This show has not lasted fourteen years, but since the beginning of time.
For what else you have done, there can be no forgiveness, Bezos, but for this show I will destroy you beyond anything your master can repair. Prepare to-
What happens in a turning where everyone does nothing. The Forsaken are all regular joes who do nothing. The Champions of Light does nothing. Nothing happens.
its an age of peace obviously, nothing major happens, the DO is locked away and peolle just get on with their lives, that age ends with the discovery of the OP and then...
HE'S A BLACKSMITH THOSE GUYS ARE STRONG SO HE HAS TO BE A Black person
Do people really cry in this casting calls? I've been to some when I was in Uni and nobody cried for that shit no matter how good.
Blacksmiths also have to be reasonably smart, and have a good work ethic.
Hey, don't turn this into hating black people. Direct your hate at Rafe and his people for bad casting.
Black people have no place in western fantasy.
If he hadn’t of died he probably would have advocated moving them all back to Africa
Lincoln didn’t want equality of the races
Huh? Explain Tuon.
A mistake, even Jordan wasn't perfect.
Robert Jordan states from this own mouth, that because he's American, he believes that he's at least partially able to borrow from any culture that is a part of America's mixing pot. From his perspective, his world doesn't have ethnic boundaries.
As I said, nobody is perfect. We're all paying the price for the mistakes our ancestors made in 1619.
I always thought she was white.
Her skin color isn't described on the same page she is introduced, so she is white now.
You joke, but I thought Tuon was Asian too for a long time, until suddenly she described as dark. And I was like "huuuuh?"
moron
>the room cried at his casting call
Why do they say shit like this when we all know it’s made up.
Because those tweets were made for women who will believe whatever they think everyone else believes.
I genuinely don't know what scene he could possibly have been referring to with this statement.
Didn’t even finish season 1 it was terrible
oh hey i'm calling it now, avi can't channel
nah no way they will remove a woman's power
How did he do it?
Unironically seeing this image 5 or 6 years ago convinced me to read the books.
meant for
good lad
I wanna see Ishamael frick Rand while Lanfear watches, am I the only one?
also why is Mat so useless , what is the point of him? if you removed him from the show nothing would change tbh
I read the books like 3 times and I'm on my 4th re-read and I just can't figure out why you people are so mad about what he's doing? He was obviously always dark. Is it just because he doesn't have 1 eye? That's just impractical to expect and actor to wear an eyepatch.
(You)
stop trying to b8 its really sad you suck at this
No Sarah Gadon, no watch.
It's been fun, see you all in the next turning of the shitpipe. Death to Rafe. Death to Bezos. Death to Amazon.
bro... it's time to put the keyboard away this is getting embarrassing
wall of text sperg is really losing it
Give him a you. He deserved it.
no he doesn't