the only morally evil thing he did, literally the only literal thing he did that was morally bad was telling the neo nazi gang that jessie was under the truck. Everything he did before and after was justified
This was justified but I was morally bad. Even though he was saving himself from blackmail and his not-son from drug addiction morally speaking he should have found another way to save himself from blackmail and his partner. Junkies are crazy and unstable but maybe saving her shed frick off? But probably not. Still. It was based and justified either way but is it what Jesus would do?
Poisoning the kid. He's made mistakes before and has no pharmaceutical training, it was very possible he could have killed that kid. He was mean to his wife when he didn't need to be several times when she was in the right, and he resented his son for being crippled when it was his shitty bald genes that were really responsible.
>gets cancer >instead of using teacher's health insurance, decides to start making meth >ex-partner offers to pay for his treatment >instead of accepting, lets his pride get the best of him and continues making meth >makes his initial monetary goals pretty quickly >doesn't try to get out, just keeps making meth >fuels an international drug war >destroys untold lives >repeatedly ruins any and all of Jesse's attempts at happiness >inadvertently causes a midair plane crash
I guess I started to despise him from the first episode.
Nah I’m a man and I’d rather take the easy way in most things unless it’s something I actually specialize/am interested in, I think you’re just autistic.
>teacher's health insurance
did you miss how it barely covered anything and they were already heavily in debt because his prostitute of a wife kept buying shit in ebay?
>realise you're dying and have nothing to lose >make the choice to go from cringelord to the top of a dangerous and highly competitive arena >almost all the people that hate you for it are certified pieces of shit anyway so who cares >leave money with the wife to take care your kids
People with high T understand those decisions
of using teacher's health insurance, decides to start making meth
I know Redditors will post that "if breaking bad was in Canada" meme but teachers have amazing benefits. Giant plothole imo
Well no, redditors don't point to a plothole, they just make a meme about how the plot wouldn't work in Canada to make a political point about healthcare.
But the show didn't happen in Canada, so it isn't a plothole. Anon pointed out the plothole that is present in the show, that in America teachers get great healthcare benefits so he never needed to make the meth even without universal healthcare.
Canada isn't America, anon.
>I must sell meth to pay for my treatments covered by my union-mandated health insurance >not a plothole
What?
7 months ago
Anonymous
The show tells you that his insurance didn't cover it. "I forgot the details of the show" is not a plothole you redditBlack person.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I guess you can make an argument that in-universe the teacher's union hasn't mandated for good enough health insurance. But if the show is going to be set in a fantasy world of make-believe, it would've probably been better had Gus been a dragon.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>His insurance doesn't cover his medical expenses?? Might as well add dragons then
Fricking moron
Why wouldn't a teacher's health insurance cover cancer treatment? Even fricking obamacare covers that shit
We don't live in a perfect world, anon. You can do everything right and still get shafted institutions. It's why he breaks bad.
[...]
The healthcare did cover it didn't it? It just didn't cover the "le best treatment" that the b***h wife wanted for him.
She's a b***h for wanting the best treatment option?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>She's a b***h for wanting the best treatment option?
She's a b***h because she's a b***h, I imagine she was born that way. She even has the resting b***h face
7 months ago
Anonymous
>bitch
When it puts the entire family in debt and the normal treatment would've worked out anyway? Yes.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>the normal treatment would've worked out anyway
How do you know?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Because the cancer went into remission by the next(?) season, less expensive chemo is still chemo.
7 months ago
Anonymous
So she’s a b***h because she didn’t watch the show she was a character in to know the cancer goes into remission? This a perfectly sound and logical line of reasoning and anyone who says otherwise is simply a hater.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You read this too
The b***h part and wants her husband to live part are two completely separate qualities about her. They aren't related ESLchama.
"Bitch" is a qualifier for her, I never said she was a b***h because she wanted to help her husband.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Skyler is a b***h
It isn't the fact she was correct about him being "up to something", it's the fact that her husband got cancer, and with that comes insane amounts of stress and anxiety and can make people act distant and weird. Imagine your life long partner getting cancer, and as soon as they act weird, you accuse them of all sorts of shit. Its irrelevant that she was correct.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Why wouldn't a teacher's health insurance cover cancer treatment? Even fricking obamacare covers that shit
7 months ago
Anonymous
Why wouldn't a teacher's health insurance cover cancer treatment? Even fricking obamacare covers that shit
The healthcare did cover it didn't it? It just didn't cover the "le best treatment" that the b***h wife wanted for him.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>wants husband to live >b***h wife
I’m begging to think the whole incel phenomenon is actually some unknown evolutionary mechanism to weed out undesirables from breeding.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The b***h part and wants her husband to live part are two completely separate qualities about her. They aren't related ESLchama.
>>gets cancer
of using teacher's health insurance, decides to start making meth >>ex-partner offers to pay for his treatment
of accepting, lets his pride get the best of him and continues making meth
his initial monetary goals pretty quickly
't try to get out, just keeps making meth
an international drug war
untold lives
ruins any and all of Jesse's attempts at happiness
causes a midair plane crash
>They seemed very reasonable >If they split the money evenly, each and every one of them is a multi millionaire >they decide to start cooking meth, sell it on a world wide scale, have a slave cook it for them >all that because his 60 IQ sociopath nephew was lead on by a 40 year old milf >very reasonable
>1. Poisoning the kid
I was like yoo that's..damn dude.
>2. When he killed Mike, and then nine people in prison and dissolved a dead kid in acid
He was clearly beyond redemption at that point. He just became as bad Gus Fring himself.
>3.Getting Hank and Gomez killed, throwing Jesse under the bus and having a knifefight with Skylar
It's over. You've ruined everything, friends, family and OG partner who had your back. He became an actual cancer.
I don't understand the falling out between Gus and Walter. They seemed like reasonable but callous men, and respected each other. Then Gus just plots to kill Walter and replace him with Gale and they kill Gale first.
Walt thought Gus wanted to kill him and replace him with Gale but its very clear that Gus just wanted to have a replacement ready for when Walt dies from cancer, he can't afford to let the lab go a day without cooking so why wouldn't he have a backup? Walt was paranoid and ruined everything over it.
>You let it happen. The death of the daughter of the air traffic controller also killed 167 innocent people. Someone has to pay for your crimes, Walter. Who is it going to be?
Bullshit, shd killed herself by ODing and saving her would have put Walt in danger based on the threats she made. He was 100% in the right to do nothing.
that is not true, she slept on her side so she wouldn't drown in vomit as she warned Jessie about, Walt put her on her back then didn't save her when she started drowning; she did not OD.
I never hated Walt at all and I strongly suspect the only reason anyone does is because he's uncool and goofy. People like Gus are obviously even more evil than him but aren't hated like he is because Gus is le badass terminator man. Even Mike and Jesse are like barely any better than him.
He becomes an amoral criminal butthole but thats literally the entire cast of the show outside his family.
As soon as he tried to try to be good at crime as a clueless sheltered suburban idiot with zero street smarts. Most of his self-inflicted injuries were due to him thinking the criminal world has the same rules as straight world. Takes him until season 5 to realize it himself.
I don't buy that a prideful man like Walter who is willing to murder for his own ego's sake would ever tolerate a domineering unpleasant and vindictive woman like Skylar, even for his kid's sake. Maybe if it took at least two full seasons for Walter to start killing, maybe, but within a week of cooking meth he's choking cholos to death and walking into gangster strongholds hurling bombs around all on his own impetus. Walter always goes to the nuclear immediately whenever faced with any problem, even with the cancer thing his first instinct is to start committing crime. There is a 0% chance his marriage with Skylar would've lasted as long as it did, at some point Walter was going to start smacking her around and she would not have tolerated that for a moment.
The show established the fact that Walt was always a little pushover b***h, up until the point he was diagnosed with cancer which was when something in him just snapped and he became the person you’re describing
He was a narcissistic Elliot Rodgers Cinemaphile poster type but never had the courage before being given the death sentence to actually act on his feelings
It all just came bubbling out
There are flashbacks to him before he met Skylar where he’s some college Chad.
Somehow she managed to henpeck him into the weak little b***h you see in episode one, but he wasn’t always like that.
The biggest plot hole, if there is one, would be him taking a high-school chemistry teaching job.
He was a narcissistic Elliot Rodgers Cinemaphile poster type but never had the courage before being given the death sentence to actually act on his feelings
True. For decades he was a seething sperg because he let Elliot buy him out of Grey Matter because he sperged out about Gretchen.
Then when Elliot and Gretchen felt bad for him, offered to let him back into Grey Matter and cover his treatments, because he was an old friend AND because they recognised him as a brilliant chemist who was being wasted teaching high school, he, again sperged out because he was determined to prove he could build his own empire rather than just accepting a role in the empire he'd already built.
I hated the fact he quit so soon. I wanted season 5 to be him building his billion dollar empire, to fulfil his regrets of leaving Greymatter. I wanted to see him fight rival gangs, navigate the law, and create a business akin to Los Pollos Hermanos, not just own a fricking carwash.
I feel like his 'empire' ended up being pretty lackluster. He seemed to be pretty bipolar in season 5.
No kidding, because the only thing on Earth he was good at was Chemistry and murder. He couldn't build anything by himself and he sucked at working with people, not counting extortion.
the darker walter got, the more i liked him as a character because it's a tv show and it's called "breaking bad"
why the frick would you watch it if not to see him break bad?
if you mean anti-heros >better call saul (if you haven't) >the sopranos >justified (if not raylan as an anti-hero, then boyd) >sneaky pete (described by a creator as "breaking good") >black sails >maybe deadwood
if you mean anti-heros >better call saul (if you haven't) >the sopranos >justified (if not raylan as an anti-hero, then boyd) >sneaky pete (described by a creator as "breaking good") >black sails >maybe deadwood
I can’t remember why Jesse got all pissy with him in the first place, considering how many times Walt saved his ass.
Poisoning that kid? He was fine after like a day. Wasn’t the alternative Walt’s family getting butchered?
I started hating Walt because he a was such a fricking homosexual. Strong in front of the weak and weak in front of the strong. Always cowering the minute real life doesn’t work out for his 200IQ keikaku. Always in a nervous breakdown or hissy fit with his dumb b***h wife and moron son. Given a golden parachute but refuses because he’s still seething at being an uncommitted beta 30 fricking years previous. Based on the memes and the hype around the show I expected him to be the ultimate kingpin, larger than life with his wizardry in chem101. Nope instead of being as brutal as tuco and as cunning as Gus, he’s more of a cuck than his druggie pissout jesse. Walt s just as much a loser at the beginning and the end. Walter Only succeeded because his entire life was one cruel cosmic joke
At the beginning of the show but fell in love with him after this scene.
the only morally evil thing he did, literally the only literal thing he did that was morally bad was telling the neo nazi gang that jessie was under the truck. Everything he did before and after was justified
>telling the neo nazi gang that jessie was under the truck
snitches get stitches
This was justified but I was morally bad. Even though he was saving himself from blackmail and his not-son from drug addiction morally speaking he should have found another way to save himself from blackmail and his partner. Junkies are crazy and unstable but maybe saving her shed frick off? But probably not. Still. It was based and justified either way but is it what Jesus would do?
Poisoning the kid. He's made mistakes before and has no pharmaceutical training, it was very possible he could have killed that kid. He was mean to his wife when he didn't need to be several times when she was in the right, and he resented his son for being crippled when it was his shitty bald genes that were really responsible.
Otherwise though I'm with you.
this moment I started to respect Walter.
nothing should get between you and your goals. Not some junkies but especially not a prostitute
When he started being a hypocrite.
thats the worst part
>gets cancer
>instead of using teacher's health insurance, decides to start making meth
>ex-partner offers to pay for his treatment
>instead of accepting, lets his pride get the best of him and continues making meth
>makes his initial monetary goals pretty quickly
>doesn't try to get out, just keeps making meth
>fuels an international drug war
>destroys untold lives
>repeatedly ruins any and all of Jesse's attempts at happiness
>inadvertently causes a midair plane crash
I guess I started to despise him from the first episode.
Are you female ,perchance?
Men innately understand all those decisions he made.
Nah I’m a man and I’d rather take the easy way in most things unless it’s something I actually specialize/am interested in, I think you’re just autistic.
>endangering family needlessly is a man’s role
The absolute state
>teacher's health insurance
did you miss how it barely covered anything and they were already heavily in debt because his prostitute of a wife kept buying shit in ebay?
moron.
>realise you're dying and have nothing to lose
>make the choice to go from cringelord to the top of a dangerous and highly competitive arena
>almost all the people that hate you for it are certified pieces of shit anyway so who cares
>leave money with the wife to take care your kids
People with high T understand those decisions
why is he green here?
Is it because they're literally you? Does the green represent pre-Vendetta mask Anonymous?
And why are you BLUE?
Because, if I was green, I would die
Martian arc
Choosing to engage in crime to protect your ego isn't high test behaviour, more like high melanin.
anon, I'm not sure melanin makes your skin green
of using teacher's health insurance, decides to start making meth
I know Redditors will post that "if breaking bad was in Canada" meme but teachers have amazing benefits. Giant plothole imo
>makes fun of redditors
>uses the typical plothole defense that all redditors use
Well no, redditors don't point to a plothole, they just make a meme about how the plot wouldn't work in Canada to make a political point about healthcare.
But the show didn't happen in Canada, so it isn't a plothole. Anon pointed out the plothole that is present in the show, that in America teachers get great healthcare benefits so he never needed to make the meth even without universal healthcare.
Canada isn't America, anon.
It's not a plothole. You're wasting trips defending a moron.
>I must sell meth to pay for my treatments covered by my union-mandated health insurance
>not a plothole
What?
The show tells you that his insurance didn't cover it. "I forgot the details of the show" is not a plothole you redditBlack person.
I guess you can make an argument that in-universe the teacher's union hasn't mandated for good enough health insurance. But if the show is going to be set in a fantasy world of make-believe, it would've probably been better had Gus been a dragon.
>His insurance doesn't cover his medical expenses?? Might as well add dragons then
Fricking moron
We don't live in a perfect world, anon. You can do everything right and still get shafted institutions. It's why he breaks bad.
She's a b***h for wanting the best treatment option?
>She's a b***h for wanting the best treatment option?
She's a b***h because she's a b***h, I imagine she was born that way. She even has the resting b***h face
>bitch
When it puts the entire family in debt and the normal treatment would've worked out anyway? Yes.
>the normal treatment would've worked out anyway
How do you know?
Because the cancer went into remission by the next(?) season, less expensive chemo is still chemo.
So she’s a b***h because she didn’t watch the show she was a character in to know the cancer goes into remission? This a perfectly sound and logical line of reasoning and anyone who says otherwise is simply a hater.
You read this too
"Bitch" is a qualifier for her, I never said she was a b***h because she wanted to help her husband.
Skyler is a b***h
It isn't the fact she was correct about him being "up to something", it's the fact that her husband got cancer, and with that comes insane amounts of stress and anxiety and can make people act distant and weird. Imagine your life long partner getting cancer, and as soon as they act weird, you accuse them of all sorts of shit. Its irrelevant that she was correct.
Why wouldn't a teacher's health insurance cover cancer treatment? Even fricking obamacare covers that shit
The healthcare did cover it didn't it? It just didn't cover the "le best treatment" that the b***h wife wanted for him.
>wants husband to live
>b***h wife
I’m begging to think the whole incel phenomenon is actually some unknown evolutionary mechanism to weed out undesirables from breeding.
The b***h part and wants her husband to live part are two completely separate qualities about her. They aren't related ESLchama.
if it was canada, walt goes in, gets his euthanasia shot and the series ends
After waiting 16 weeks for a nurse to stop twerking on TikTok for 15 seconds.
>>gets cancer
of using teacher's health insurance, decides to start making meth
>>ex-partner offers to pay for his treatment
of accepting, lets his pride get the best of him and continues making meth
his initial monetary goals pretty quickly
't try to get out, just keeps making meth
an international drug war
untold lives
ruins any and all of Jesse's attempts at happiness
causes a midair plane crash
Plane crash wasn't his fault, that was just some butterfly effect shit
The rest is valid though
when he knocked
never really did
Never. Other than protecting Jesse, what did he even do to make himself slightly unlikable?
I never did,Jesse was FAR more hateful
Never ? I remember my older brother refusing to watch it because "he's a... bad... guy" and just ignored him and kept watching
Eh, she deserved it. She was literally threatening him the same day. Why would he intervene, and I don't even care for walt
when he didn't kiss her and suck the puke out of her mouth
The real question is, were we supposed to despise the Nazi prison gang? They seemed very reasonable.
They just needed a quick and easy villain for the final one so they just went with nazi = bad.
>They seemed very reasonable
>If they split the money evenly, each and every one of them is a multi millionaire
>they decide to start cooking meth, sell it on a world wide scale, have a slave cook it for them
>all that because his 60 IQ sociopath nephew was lead on by a 40 year old milf
>very reasonable
He did nothing wrong.
he did the sneedful and did not redeem
Never. But it was a slippery slope.
>1. Poisoning the kid
I was like yoo that's..damn dude.
>2. When he killed Mike, and then nine people in prison and dissolved a dead kid in acid
He was clearly beyond redemption at that point. He just became as bad Gus Fring himself.
>3.Getting Hank and Gomez killed, throwing Jesse under the bus and having a knifefight with Skylar
It's over. You've ruined everything, friends, family and OG partner who had your back. He became an actual cancer.
when he let skyler survive the whole series
I forgot how much money he left his son. Wasn't it 7 million? Been 9 years since I watched it
I stopped watching when he ruined his thing with chicken man because he wanted to hang out with jesse so bad.
I don't understand the falling out between Gus and Walter. They seemed like reasonable but callous men, and respected each other. Then Gus just plots to kill Walter and replace him with Gale and they kill Gale first.
Walter is a leader and bucks the system. Gale was a loyal drone.
Walt thought Gus wanted to kill him and replace him with Gale but its very clear that Gus just wanted to have a replacement ready for when Walt dies from cancer, he can't afford to let the lab go a day without cooking so why wouldn't he have a backup? Walt was paranoid and ruined everything over it.
Imagine getting filtered this hard
you're moronic.
nou
Gus wanted a beta b***h in the lab to suck on the tubes
>You let it happen. The death of the daughter of the air traffic controller also killed 167 innocent people. Someone has to pay for your crimes, Walter. Who is it going to be?
Bullshit, shd killed herself by ODing and saving her would have put Walt in danger based on the threats she made. He was 100% in the right to do nothing.
that is not true, she slept on her side so she wouldn't drown in vomit as she warned Jessie about, Walt put her on her back then didn't save her when she started drowning; she did not OD.
I never hated Walt at all and I strongly suspect the only reason anyone does is because he's uncool and goofy. People like Gus are obviously even more evil than him but aren't hated like he is because Gus is le badass terminator man. Even Mike and Jesse are like barely any better than him.
He becomes an amoral criminal butthole but thats literally the entire cast of the show outside his family.
As soon as he tried to try to be good at crime as a clueless sheltered suburban idiot with zero street smarts. Most of his self-inflicted injuries were due to him thinking the criminal world has the same rules as straight world. Takes him until season 5 to realize it himself.
When he kept Jessie around even after hooking up with Gus. Literally no reason to keep Jessie. He was a complete liability.
never, he had his reasons
He seems moronic from the very beginning.
I don't buy that a prideful man like Walter who is willing to murder for his own ego's sake would ever tolerate a domineering unpleasant and vindictive woman like Skylar, even for his kid's sake. Maybe if it took at least two full seasons for Walter to start killing, maybe, but within a week of cooking meth he's choking cholos to death and walking into gangster strongholds hurling bombs around all on his own impetus. Walter always goes to the nuclear immediately whenever faced with any problem, even with the cancer thing his first instinct is to start committing crime. There is a 0% chance his marriage with Skylar would've lasted as long as it did, at some point Walter was going to start smacking her around and she would not have tolerated that for a moment.
The show established the fact that Walt was always a little pushover b***h, up until the point he was diagnosed with cancer which was when something in him just snapped and he became the person you’re describing
There are flashbacks to him before he met Skylar where he’s some college Chad.
Somehow she managed to henpeck him into the weak little b***h you see in episode one, but he wasn’t always like that.
The biggest plot hole, if there is one, would be him taking a high-school chemistry teaching job.
He was a narcissistic Elliot Rodgers Cinemaphile poster type but never had the courage before being given the death sentence to actually act on his feelings
It all just came bubbling out
True. For decades he was a seething sperg because he let Elliot buy him out of Grey Matter because he sperged out about Gretchen.
Then when Elliot and Gretchen felt bad for him, offered to let him back into Grey Matter and cover his treatments, because he was an old friend AND because they recognised him as a brilliant chemist who was being wasted teaching high school, he, again sperged out because he was determined to prove he could build his own empire rather than just accepting a role in the empire he'd already built.
He had a set of balls when he was young he’d be done mortally defunct bigpharma ceo
S1E1
when it became clear he was molesting his disabled son
The fact his cancer went into remission should clue you in hid was on his side
I hated the fact he quit so soon. I wanted season 5 to be him building his billion dollar empire, to fulfil his regrets of leaving Greymatter. I wanted to see him fight rival gangs, navigate the law, and create a business akin to Los Pollos Hermanos, not just own a fricking carwash.
I feel like his 'empire' ended up being pretty lackluster. He seemed to be pretty bipolar in season 5.
No kidding, because the only thing on Earth he was good at was Chemistry and murder. He couldn't build anything by himself and he sucked at working with people, not counting extortion.
When he didn't finish pussy Jessie off by dumping Lydia's puke in his mouth, too.
When he killed Mike in cold blood
the darker walter got, the more i liked him as a character because it's a tv show and it's called "breaking bad"
why the frick would you watch it if not to see him break bad?
Everything he did was morally correct and can be justifiable.
Also what should I watch next since I liked breaking bad so much. I like antagonists.
Snowfall
I will watch all of these. thanks
if you mean anti-heros
>better call saul (if you haven't)
>the sopranos
>justified (if not raylan as an anti-hero, then boyd)
>sneaky pete (described by a creator as "breaking good")
>black sails
>maybe deadwood
>anti-heros
>the sopranos
I hate you people.
Dexter
Hannibal
The Shield
House Of Cards
Power
Mary Kills People
I didn't.
I can’t remember why Jesse got all pissy with him in the first place, considering how many times Walt saved his ass.
Poisoning that kid? He was fine after like a day. Wasn’t the alternative Walt’s family getting butchered?
>I can’t remember why Jesse got all pissy with him in the first place
just part of his depressed junkie-i'm the greatest-depressed junkie cycle
When walt voted bush
he did nothing wrong until he poisoned that kid
I started hating Walt because he a was such a fricking homosexual. Strong in front of the weak and weak in front of the strong. Always cowering the minute real life doesn’t work out for his 200IQ keikaku. Always in a nervous breakdown or hissy fit with his dumb b***h wife and moron son. Given a golden parachute but refuses because he’s still seething at being an uncommitted beta 30 fricking years previous. Based on the memes and the hype around the show I expected him to be the ultimate kingpin, larger than life with his wizardry in chem101. Nope instead of being as brutal as tuco and as cunning as Gus, he’s more of a cuck than his druggie pissout jesse. Walt s just as much a loser at the beginning and the end. Walter Only succeeded because his entire life was one cruel cosmic joke
When he had infinite money but still decided to kill Mike's guys rather than pay them off
how? hank took their money twice
mike's guys were no longer solid
when he didn't force his moron son to finish the bottle
When he killed Lydia.
Never