for me it was the musical episode about lisa becoming school representative or something like that. the cringe was so much even teenage me couldn't handle it and dropped the show for good right there. only reruns of older seasons for me ever since
Are you me? I used to have a middle school friend who I used to talk about every new Simpsons episode on Mondays and I was shocked on how shit that episode was and my friend was as moronic as this moron
the president wore pearls? thats a great episode in a stale season
and thought it was OK and that's when I learned that there's shiteaters among us that can tolerate shit quality and that's why we can't have good things as a society
Also that episode with Eminem where suddenly people pretended that Bart always wanted to be a rapper was my absolute last straw and I never saw a new episode since
This. ~3-4 it hits its stride, ~9-10 is where it noticeably goes downhill in quality , ~13-15 is where it becomes unbearable. Individuals choose their own exact season number (or even individual episodes). But no one is claiming anything wildly different unless they’re intentionally being controlled afaik.
Al Jean takes over as showrunner in season... 13 I think it was? Up until that then yeah, it's still pretty okay. And it doesn't go to garbage immediately, but Al Jean's stuff is when it becomes bad instead of okay.
Pretty much this. Once it started having celebrities regularly it began declining. I fell asleep to the simpsons last night and the Lisa joins MENSA episode was on and the episode was shit and having the Stephen Hawking bit only made it worse.
Yeah, once a show gives up and just starts having celebrities play themselves I feel like the quality declines pretty hard. Probably because it lets them be lazy instead of clever about how to use the celeb as a one off character.
Yeah, once a show gives up and just starts having celebrities play themselves I feel like the quality declines pretty hard. Probably because it lets them be lazy instead of clever about how to use the celeb as a one off character.
Also when celebrities started being ultra-detailed and not drawn in the more cartoonish style of the other characters.
I think the first instance of that was the Alec Baldwin episode.
It won't make me mr popular on here but I like early seasons Lisa, before they ruined her. She's not the funniest character at all, but I related to her a lot and she remains my sentimental favourite. As such I hate modern Lisa more than any other zombie character.
Mr Burns, Troy Mclure
Homer at the bat gets the most laughs.
I like the one with Troy's planet of the Apes play, probably my favourite scene in the whole series.
The one with Hank Scorpio is good too.
Harder challenge, what's your favourite episode with each main 4 Simpsons character in the name? (ignore the baby).
For me: >Homer the Vigilante >Marge on the Lam >Bart's Comet >Lisa the Iconoclast
It's a perfect Time Capsule episode. the story isn't relatable to anyone born after 1995. To zoomers and Alphas, stealing cable would be as bizarre as explaining the concept of sharing Netflix passwords to someone in the year 1990.
God, I remember the first night we finally got cable. Stayed home all weekend watching Cartoon Network when we finally got it. Still have a crush on Bubbles.
>Groening: I was in the library the other day, in the Restricted Section, and I read something rather odd about a bit of rare TV production. It's called, as I understand it... a Floating Timeline. >TV producer: This is very dark stuff, Matt. One updates the background information of your TV show characters. It means your show cannot die. >Groening: Can you do this for, say, 34 years?
TV Producer: Merlin's Beard, Tom! Isn't it bad enough to do it for 10? This is all hypothetical, isn't it, Matt? All academic?
Groening: Of course, sir. It'll be our little secret.
Has any show ever noticeably improved after the 10th season?
Like the first 200- 300 episodes were just a warm up for the writers and actors to understand the characters
I'll admit I'm probably pretty generous when it comes to zombie Simpsons. Season 12 is the first season I would say had more bad episodes than good(or at least decent) episodes but it still has some really funny episodes for me. I would say from that point on zombie Simpsons truly began but I'll admit there usually one or two episodes per season I ended up enjoying, mostly Treehouse episodes.
The episode "The Blunder Years" where Homer won't stop screaming. Marge conveniently has a Yaqui tea set that gives him and Moe, who is conveniently in their house, flashbacks to Homer finding a corpse in the lake.
It became mediocre background noise tier television around 2000 but I didn't get to the point of finding it actually unwatchably bad until the movie. I haven't been able to tolerate a whole episode since around 2008.
This. I remember complaining about hoe bad the show had gotten in 1999! It's unreal that it's still going on. Haven't seen an episode since before the movie came out, but saw the movie in theater and loved seeing Bart's dick.
I can digest seasons 12, 13 and 14 even if they are zombiefied seasons but 15 and onwards it's unwatchable. Show should have ended between season 8-11, that's when the decline started.
The way I look at it >S1-2 = Early Years
Crude and kinda boring. It’s the bases of where everything started so it’s not completely skippable (S2 shows improvements over S1) but it might not captivate you >S3-8 = Golden Era
When people say simpsons used to be good, this is it. The episodes were funny and when the emotional moments hit, they hit. There were bad episodes, but the good ones outweighed the bad. >S9-13 = Silver Era
Show is still watchable for the most part, but the quality is noticeably worse. The good episodes are still good, but the bad episodes are pretty bad. >S14-17 + Movie = Bronze Era
Quality dips even further than before, and there’s more bad episodes then good. Not to say there aren’t any good ones, but they’re few and far between. >S18-now = Zombie Era
By now the quality sunk so far that it’s unrecognizable from before. Bad episodes are either frustratingly bad or boring bad, the "good" episodes are okay at best, and everyone seems on autopilot. No reason to watch,
The first two seasons are so fricking charming though. They’re not particularly funny. And there are some duds (the infamous Some Enchanted Evening). But they have so much sincerity it makes up for it.
The problem is that they were so influential that they're not real special anymore. Seasons 1 and 2 legitimately revolutionized the entire TV landscape.
Extending on this, Simpsons Tall Tales is the hard cut-off because it's the episode Homer is watching at the end of Behind the Laughter while commenting that the next season will be the last one.
I genuinely don't remember at this point.
When I stopped I hadn't enjoyed it for a while. I quite on a tree house of horror episode, think if they couldn't even pull it together once a year they are truly dead
Starting with Season 9 and it surprised me back in 2009. There were signs of 'modern' Simpsons sprouting starting with Season 7. I was younger and realized why Troy McClure and Lionel Hutz weren't around in the newer episodes and that was the first example of me seeing one of my favorite TV shows taking a nosedive. Phil Hartman's death was the exact moment the series took a turn for the worst.
They can't keep necroing this horse for much longer, I hope. When it dies I'll be smiling, my once favourite show will have found peace, gone to a better place where the israelites can't get to it because they don't even believe in heaven.
>We need a lawyer character for the Simpson family but Phil Hartman's already been murdered >Here you go, senpai.
This unfunny homosexual is the perfect barometer for recognising you're watching a post-golden age show. Yeah I get it, he's Jack Lemmon in Glengarry haha, no need to stretch that joke for 20 years.
The last episode I watched was something about fat tonys son, I don't remember anything about it but just decided the show was too soulless to watch anymore
I feel like I was an unusually long holdout for The Simpsons and even I called it quits after that episode where Marge becomes an MMA fighter. That was 14 years ago. The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones premiered soon after that and I don't think anyone was bored enough on a Sunday night to watch The Simpsons ever again. Its remaining viewership must be hospital waiting rooms and boomers who fell asleep in the living room with the TV on.
The movie. I will say, there was an episode a couple years ago where they foreshadowed they were going to retcon the origins of santas little helper but in the end they didn't. So they've got that going for them. Every once in a while they put a self aware gag in, too. The shows' launched so many professional careers they don't need to be doing 10/10 seasons anymore. Or episodes for that matter. Just enjoy the memories.
this thread got me to watch season one for the first time since i was a kid, thanks bros it's very comfy. It's sort of crazy how down to earth and real all the characters are compared to what they become.
BRTFB
for me it was the musical episode about lisa becoming school representative or something like that. the cringe was so much even teenage me couldn't handle it and dropped the show for good right there. only reruns of older seasons for me ever since
>"I'm [email protected], @yahoo.com"
cringe as frick line
>"I'm [email protected], @kekitskino.com"
kino as kino line
the president wore pearls? thats a great episode in a stale season
never laughed, and the songs were cringe. I don't know what else to say
Are you me? I used to have a middle school friend who I used to talk about every new Simpsons episode on Mondays and I was shocked on how shit that episode was and my friend was as moronic as this moron
and thought it was OK and that's when I learned that there's shiteaters among us that can tolerate shit quality and that's why we can't have good things as a society
Also that episode with Eminem where suddenly people pretended that Bart always wanted to be a rapper was my absolute last straw and I never saw a new episode since
>among us
One thing I noticed from the current season (35, yikes) is that each episode has like 20 executive prdoducerd, some being the voice actors.
Also the tree house of horror was good but the rest was forgettable.
I watched the thoh this year and it was good or good enough rather
Trilogy of error
For some reason some people like it but i think its the moment the simpsons stopped being the simpsons
The episode right after that is incredibly soulful and sweet
I remember watching this when it aired and feeling that the show was officially not the same anymore
Parrots will say after 8 or 9 or something but there's some in the early teens that are okay
For me, up to around S20 is good as far as mindless TV goes but sometime after is just abrasive
problem is that up to that point stinkers were the exception. 10 and 11 are very mixed, beyond that good ones became the exception
This. ~3-4 it hits its stride, ~9-10 is where it noticeably goes downhill in quality , ~13-15 is where it becomes unbearable. Individuals choose their own exact season number (or even individual episodes). But no one is claiming anything wildly different unless they’re intentionally being controlled afaik.
I meant to type contrarian, not controlled. But I’m prone to freudian slips I suppose. Everyone who’s going to argue with me is a shill.
Controlled works too
Itallian Bob is when I stopped watching entirely
Scully years (8-12) are divisive but you can tell they really just stop giving a frick when Al Jean became eternal showrunner (13+)
This joke was so unfunny I still think about it
I can't wait until the zeitgeist circles back around so 'unironically enjoying things played straight' becomes cool again.
The Simpsons ended with Hit and Run
Al Jean takes over as showrunner in season... 13 I think it was? Up until that then yeah, it's still pretty okay. And it doesn't go to garbage immediately, but Al Jean's stuff is when it becomes bad instead of okay.
the tony hawk episode was the last straw
Pretty much this. Once it started having celebrities regularly it began declining. I fell asleep to the simpsons last night and the Lisa joins MENSA episode was on and the episode was shit and having the Stephen Hawking bit only made it worse.
Once celebrities started playing themselves.
Yeah, once a show gives up and just starts having celebrities play themselves I feel like the quality declines pretty hard. Probably because it lets them be lazy instead of clever about how to use the celeb as a one off character.
Also when celebrities started being ultra-detailed and not drawn in the more cartoonish style of the other characters.
I think the first instance of that was the Alec Baldwin episode.
That's also where I called it quits.
If that was the 300th episode, then, yeah, same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinner%27s_Sense_of_Snow
After this episode the show is unwatchable garbage, if you disagree you are stupid as frick.
I was actually going to say this too. Absolute trash episode that just made me give up.
Favourite character(s)?
Favourite episode(s)?
>martin, ned
>homer the heretic
>homer loves flanders
>when flanders failed
>bart gets an f
>lemon of troy
Oh and Bart On The Road
Moe
King sized homer
Homer Badman
Treehouse of Horror III
Bart of Darkness
For whatever reason the Abe episodes were always good I thought.
>the sex potion one
>flying hellfish
In the past I've seen a lot of anons shit on Hellfish but I can't really remember why. I like it too.
It won't make me mr popular on here but I like early seasons Lisa, before they ruined her. She's not the funniest character at all, but I related to her a lot and she remains my sentimental favourite. As such I hate modern Lisa more than any other zombie character.
Mr Burns, Troy Mclure
Homer at the bat gets the most laughs.
I like the one with Troy's planet of the Apes play, probably my favourite scene in the whole series.
The one with Hank Scorpio is good too.
Harder challenge, what's your favourite episode with each main 4 Simpsons character in the name? (ignore the baby).
For me:
>Homer the Vigilante
>Marge on the Lam
>Bart's Comet
>Lisa the Iconoclast
Marge be not proud
Lisa the Greek
And Maggie makes three
Agree on the other two
Homer and Lisa vs the eighth commandment might be my favourite episode
It's a perfect Time Capsule episode. the story isn't relatable to anyone born after 1995. To zoomers and Alphas, stealing cable would be as bizarre as explaining the concept of sharing Netflix passwords to someone in the year 1990.
God, I remember the first night we finally got cable. Stayed home all weekend watching Cartoon Network when we finally got it. Still have a crush on Bubbles.
>bart gets an f
God that hit way too close to home. Kino.
>Groening: I was in the library the other day, in the Restricted Section, and I read something rather odd about a bit of rare TV production. It's called, as I understand it... a Floating Timeline.
>TV producer: This is very dark stuff, Matt. One updates the background information of your TV show characters. It means your show cannot die.
>Groening: Can you do this for, say, 34 years?
TV Producer: Merlin's Beard, Tom! Isn't it bad enough to do it for 10? This is all hypothetical, isn't it, Matt? All academic?
Groening: Of course, sir. It'll be our little secret.
>tree house episodes aren't even halloween themed any more, just generic parodies of shit like Avatar
Feels miserable bro
They parodied every horror movie the average viewer would know so it's no surprise they just moved onto generic shit
Maybe they should have just stopped or waited for the slowburn shit that got popular
Imagine a Get Out episode with black Homer
Holy shit, you made me realize that there's a decent chance they make Terrifier and FNAF parodies for TOH in the next years
>the Avatar parody was 12 years ago
Grim.
We did get Death Note and It recently.
Has any show ever noticeably improved after the 10th season?
Like the first 200- 300 episodes were just a warm up for the writers and actors to understand the characters
Hardly anything goes on for that long so its hard to say but I'd argue that Top Gear got better over time as the trio's friendship grew stronger.
American Dad, albeit I hate the newer seasons
All the bullshit celebrity guests ruined it
https://vocaroo.com/1e3jRaz72YVa
It is 2024. I'm middle aged now. Whenever I see it, even the classic episodes, it feels like the entire franchise was zombie simpsons.
It can't be that bad, I'll download the latest episode and watch it. I think it's been 15 years since I watched the simpsons
I'll admit I'm probably pretty generous when it comes to zombie Simpsons. Season 12 is the first season I would say had more bad episodes than good(or at least decent) episodes but it still has some really funny episodes for me. I would say from that point on zombie Simpsons truly began but I'll admit there usually one or two episodes per season I ended up enjoying, mostly Treehouse episodes.
I'm trying to watch all of Simpsons because I have nothing else to do and Season 17 has been the roughest I've seen so far.
literally read a book, do anything else
>s17 was 2005
My brain hurts. I must have been 11 when it aired later here on Aus cable.
S11E5
The episode "The Blunder Years" where Homer won't stop screaming. Marge conveniently has a Yaqui tea set that gives him and Moe, who is conveniently in their house, flashbacks to Homer finding a corpse in the lake.
Aye, hard to watch that one. Can't even think of a funny line from it.
It became mediocre background noise tier television around 2000 but I didn't get to the point of finding it actually unwatchably bad until the movie. I haven't been able to tolerate a whole episode since around 2008.
This. I remember complaining about hoe bad the show had gotten in 1999! It's unreal that it's still going on. Haven't seen an episode since before the movie came out, but saw the movie in theater and loved seeing Bart's dick.
sne
I can digest seasons 12, 13 and 14 even if they are zombiefied seasons but 15 and onwards it's unwatchable. Show should have ended between season 8-11, that's when the decline started.
The Movie would have been a decent finale, then there would only be a few really bad seasons to avoid.
S12.
Just filler shit they put on around football. People are still the couch after sports. Might as well as throw them some zombie Simpsons.
Classic Simpsons was cheesy scenarios with early family guy-tier jokes and if you seriously watch cartoons for their scenarios you should get a shrink
The way I look at it
>S1-2 = Early Years
Crude and kinda boring. It’s the bases of where everything started so it’s not completely skippable (S2 shows improvements over S1) but it might not captivate you
>S3-8 = Golden Era
When people say simpsons used to be good, this is it. The episodes were funny and when the emotional moments hit, they hit. There were bad episodes, but the good ones outweighed the bad.
>S9-13 = Silver Era
Show is still watchable for the most part, but the quality is noticeably worse. The good episodes are still good, but the bad episodes are pretty bad.
>S14-17 + Movie = Bronze Era
Quality dips even further than before, and there’s more bad episodes then good. Not to say there aren’t any good ones, but they’re few and far between.
>S18-now = Zombie Era
By now the quality sunk so far that it’s unrecognizable from before. Bad episodes are either frustratingly bad or boring bad, the "good" episodes are okay at best, and everyone seems on autopilot. No reason to watch,
The first two seasons are so fricking charming though. They’re not particularly funny. And there are some duds (the infamous Some Enchanted Evening). But they have so much sincerity it makes up for it.
The problem is that they were so influential that they're not real special anymore. Seasons 1 and 2 legitimately revolutionized the entire TV landscape.
the simpsons was always trash. good riddance. also sneed
>started seeing reruns all the time around s12
i'm thinking it was around then but the flesh hadn't rotted off yet
The Simpsons is unfunny late boomer shit
FACT
I’m gonna need some statistical proof before I believe what you say is a "fact"
The Simpsons ends with "Behind the Laughter". Anything after that may smell better or worse, but it is already dead.
Extending on this, Simpsons Tall Tales is the hard cut-off because it's the episode Homer is watching at the end of Behind the Laughter while commenting that the next season will be the last one.
the second it switched from traditional animation to digital
Even before the sneed meme the Tomacco episode is probably one of the most iconic episodes in the show
Season 17 episode 1 was the first I couldn't finish. Literally nothing interesting happens.
Simpsons ended in 1994
I genuinely don't remember at this point.
When I stopped I hadn't enjoyed it for a while. I quite on a tree house of horror episode, think if they couldn't even pull it together once a year they are truly dead
This got me thinking and I looked it up.
It was treehouse of horror 19.
>new season
>"its not that bad this time!"
>look inside
>still shit
I feel like this happens every year
Don't Fear the Roofer was the last passable episode.
That is not to say that it is a good episode.
Starting with Season 9 and it surprised me back in 2009. There were signs of 'modern' Simpsons sprouting starting with Season 7. I was younger and realized why Troy McClure and Lionel Hutz weren't around in the newer episodes and that was the first example of me seeing one of my favorite TV shows taking a nosedive. Phil Hartman's death was the exact moment the series took a turn for the worst.
They can't keep necroing this horse for much longer, I hope. When it dies I'll be smiling, my once favourite show will have found peace, gone to a better place where the israelites can't get to it because they don't even believe in heaven.
When they switched to Korean animation it lost its kino status.
>We need a lawyer character for the Simpson family but Phil Hartman's already been murdered
>Here you go, senpai.
This unfunny homosexual is the perfect barometer for recognising you're watching a post-golden age show. Yeah I get it, he's Jack Lemmon in Glengarry haha, no need to stretch that joke for 20 years.
Yeah I always laugh when fans of the later seasons try to convince others that Gil and Disco Stu are fun additions.
The last episode I watched was something about fat tonys son, I don't remember anything about it but just decided the show was too soulless to watch anymore
the episode where homer wants to vote for obama and froths at the mouth when the machine tries to get him to vote for mccaine
I like some of the first widescreen episodes of S20, where they weren't quite as focused on family guy-tier cutaway gags.
Since season 12
season 9 was mostly over the hill and season 8 was on the tipping point
I feel like I was an unusually long holdout for The Simpsons and even I called it quits after that episode where Marge becomes an MMA fighter. That was 14 years ago. The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones premiered soon after that and I don't think anyone was bored enough on a Sunday night to watch The Simpsons ever again. Its remaining viewership must be hospital waiting rooms and boomers who fell asleep in the living room with the TV on.
The movie. I will say, there was an episode a couple years ago where they foreshadowed they were going to retcon the origins of santas little helper but in the end they didn't. So they've got that going for them. Every once in a while they put a self aware gag in, too. The shows' launched so many professional careers they don't need to be doing 10/10 seasons anymore. Or episodes for that matter. Just enjoy the memories.
this thread got me to watch season one for the first time since i was a kid, thanks bros it's very comfy. It's sort of crazy how down to earth and real all the characters are compared to what they become.
something is off
>s09
some good episodes some really bad
>s12
the entire season it's crap
>s16
>Watching the Simpsons after 1999
Is that what Prince's song was about?