This. It's one of those ideas that probably sounded really cool when he was coming up with it, but in practice it makes it really hard to care when so much random shit is happening. Hell, the whole show feels like what would happen if an "idea guy" got complete creative control. Lots and lots and lots of interesting ideas that don't really come together into anything.
Season 1 worked because it was still playing things somewhat safe. Season 2 started out as a mess, but managed to pull itself together once it stopped pretending to care about the new characters (except those weird Super Friends guys who kept eating up screentime without any payoff). Season 3 went full moron. Season 4 seemingly realized the problem with season 3 and tried to correct it, but ended up just giving us like 6 short story arcs that weren't particularly interesting.
>Vandal Savage claims to invent hip-hop!? I INVENTED IT!!
Cast bloat, frequent time skips, Weissmen's obsession with the villain not failing and having thousands of back up plans, and slide shows.
too melodramatic, abandoned its premise, and timeskips. Also for me personally I hate that it took over the young justice name and brand despite being such an unfun departure
Teen Titans worked because of all the questions it didn't answer, primarily who allows them to operate and why.
Young Justice on the other hand practically removed any and all autonomy over and over and over again with the story being the same bargin big b***h story it always is when it comes to stories about new generations: >The old generation is being mind controlled and the young heroes need to break them out of it so that THEY can save the day
Adding to this, Teen Titans had things going against it and had restrictions set on it. Even the people who worked on the show felt things could've been better/had more they wanted to do
Young Justice feels less restrained but comes across unfocused.
Weissman is not actually a good writer. He's able to trick you for a season or two and make you think he's got something good going on but the reality is that he just allows plot threads to spread like kudzu and until inevitably his show gets cancelled. Young Justice was awful from episode 1, though, and got worse and worse as it went while amplifying all of his problems.
Greg Weisman is a very literary writer and comics/cartoons are genuinely beneath him.
However, he does like them.
So he tries to do ambitious, thought-provoking, meticulously crafted, and grandiose storytelling.... with 20 minute episodes of children's television.
Spectacular Spider-Man was better though.
And I like the Mr. Freeze episode he wrote for The Batman.
Time jumps and cast bloat.
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This. It's one of those ideas that probably sounded really cool when he was coming up with it, but in practice it makes it really hard to care when so much random shit is happening. Hell, the whole show feels like what would happen if an "idea guy" got complete creative control. Lots and lots and lots of interesting ideas that don't really come together into anything.
Season 1 worked because it was still playing things somewhat safe. Season 2 started out as a mess, but managed to pull itself together once it stopped pretending to care about the new characters (except those weird Super Friends guys who kept eating up screentime without any payoff). Season 3 went full moron. Season 4 seemingly realized the problem with season 3 and tried to correct it, but ended up just giving us like 6 short story arcs that weren't particularly interesting.
the revival
>Kisame, we're leaving.
>Vandal Savage claims to invent hip-hop!? I INVENTED IT!!
Cast bloat, frequent time skips, Weissmen's obsession with the villain not failing and having thousands of back up plans, and slide shows.
Season 2 ending was complete shit because the show was supposed to be cancelled.
Wiseman was trying to hard to make up for the fact there were no other major DC cartoons
Season 1 and 2 were out the same years Batman Brave and the Bold were airing
s1e1
too melodramatic, abandoned its premise, and timeskips. Also for me personally I hate that it took over the young justice name and brand despite being such an unfun departure
Too serious
Fujos could only do so much.
Frick what has even happened in this since the Reach?
Teen Titans worked because of all the questions it didn't answer, primarily who allows them to operate and why.
Young Justice on the other hand practically removed any and all autonomy over and over and over again with the story being the same bargin big b***h story it always is when it comes to stories about new generations:
>The old generation is being mind controlled and the young heroes need to break them out of it so that THEY can save the day
Adding to this, Teen Titans had things going against it and had restrictions set on it. Even the people who worked on the show felt things could've been better/had more they wanted to do
Young Justice feels less restrained but comes across unfocused.
Cowardice
It was stupid that Dick and other randoms like Blaqualad were friends with Conner but not Tim. Tim and Conner should always be best bros.
The timeskip robbed us 5 seasons.
Weissman is not actually a good writer. He's able to trick you for a season or two and make you think he's got something good going on but the reality is that he just allows plot threads to spread like kudzu and until inevitably his show gets cancelled. Young Justice was awful from episode 1, though, and got worse and worse as it went while amplifying all of his problems.
Greg Weisman is a very literary writer and comics/cartoons are genuinely beneath him.
However, he does like them.
So he tries to do ambitious, thought-provoking, meticulously crafted, and grandiose storytelling.... with 20 minute episodes of children's television.
Spectacular Spider-Man was better though.
And I like the Mr. Freeze episode he wrote for The Batman.
Really? People always tell me they hate that episode since it makes Freeze into a generic israeliteel thief.
By then, everybody was fricking sick of Freeze bellyaching about Nora all the time and wanted a change of pace for a while.
When it tried to be justice league unlimited and failed horribly
I watched the first half of the first season when it came out and it was very dull, with shitty shipperbait to try and grab interest.
It's literally just the time jump. Cast bloat would have been fine if we'd experienced it happening slowly
season 2
After season 1 the show has no main characters, just a bunch of headless chickens taking turns
Season 2 had too many characters and was a bit of a mess but the show died with Wally.
It was shit from the start. I refuse to believe there was an actual fan demand.