I feel like its such a common trope in sitcoms. There is always a crotchety middle aged or older male character who hates his wife and treats her like shit. Who actually finds this funny?
Where did the I hate my wife trope come from in sitcoms?
I feel like its such a common trope in sitcoms. There is always a crotchety middle aged or older male character who hates his wife and treats her like shit. Who actually finds this funny?
The Honeymooners
ralph didnt hate his wife, she was always the voice of reason. how many times did he tell her she was the greatest
you're the fat dumb husband they were making fun of. you thiink you are helping your wife and protecting her in the long run but everyone looks at you with disdain for being a mindless barbarian that doesnt understand subtle liberal/modern values.
>You're a mindless barbarian if you don't let your wife frick other men, true liberal values!
That's not what you said, but it's what you meant.
Ralph obviously loved Alice very much he just had a short temper and would get angry with her
From morons misunderstanding the Honeymooners, you mean. Ralph and Alice were both roughnecks that didn't take shit from anybody. They struggled and got on each other's nerves due to money issues, but Ralph at the end of the day always loved Alice and vice versa. Kinda the same thing with I Love Lucy, at least in the early seasons when Lucy and Desi were still in love.
>Where did the “I hate my wife” trope come from
Real life.
Yep.
Common trope when divorce was still kinda taboo.
Divorce used to be something you just didn't do unless your husband was beating you to death or something, so people used to stay together even though they couldn't fricking stand eachother anymore. It was supposed to be a relatable situation. Nowadays, if you don't love eachother anymore you just seperate, so the trope isn't relatable anymore and it just baffles people.
the soi take
the chud take
the 'plays both sides, i am superior' goy take.
genital mutilation reduces the ability to pair bond
thanks, israelites
This is true. My father beat my mother to death and she divorced him. She's very happy now.
Then why exactly is the trope always associated with the divorce-happiest generation?
>always
Evidence or kys.
This. Once no fault divorce became a thing a shitton of boomers divorced.
Jews wanted to drive a wedge in the family unit
that's moronic, marriage is one of the biggest money-makers for israelites, they want to ENCOURAGE marriage because it makes people spend way too much money on something that doesn't even fricking matter at all, unless you are in some sort of religion that also CONVENIENTLY enforces it and takes money from it
>renting our church for a ceremony THAT WE MAKE YOU DO? well that will be $8000 for the day 🙂
Only an incel who’s never been in a relationship could ever find women bearable
As soon as they have their claws in you, the b***hing never stops
All you have to do is work an office job to see how horrible women are
Unironically. If men didn’t have their brains fogged by the smell of pussy, we’d have hunted them to extinction. They’re like narcissistic eternal bipolar 12 year olds. Even the smart ones.
I’ve had a gf for the past 3ish years and this is 100% correct. Yet I can’t bring myself to just drop her ass. I don’t know why, might be a psychological thing
Just do it, dude. I was in the same position for four years because she paid a lot of the bills, cooked and cleaned but I was still miserable. It's been almost half a year now since I dumped her and my life has improved dramatically. The only thing that sucks is that I have to clean the kitchen myself again.
for me i couldnt afford shit without my gf, she makes more money than me, so with both of us paying for a one bedroom apartment we save waaay more money than I would if it was just me, thats why you need a woman, that and i look forward to having kids
Bringing children into a loveless relationship for monetary gain
Degenerate behaviour
never said it was loveless, part of love is relying on someone, you wouldnt understand unless you had it
>in relationship
>isn't the breadwinner
>wants children
Oh, so you're the wife? :^]
nta but that reminds me of the time I finally got a really good paying full time job and was finally going to take breadwinner responsibilities off my gf only for her to land a promotion and end up earning more than me by a couple thousand
You are a fricking moron. You are what? 21? She will increasingly raise her material demands on you as you age, masking it with words 'We need' and it will never fricking stop. By the time you are thirty you will have to overyake her in your earnings, otherwise you are in for a miserable ride.
Bear in mind I don't mention this as something wrong, that is simply how it works, it's instincts and genetics. Just how it is. I work around 230 hours per month, all my colleagues, all well over 50 years of age work 12 hours, two of my younger colleagues work 350 hours and 300.
You think we do it out of love for the craft?
>You think we do it out of love for the craft?
Don't you do it to get away from the wife?
Unironically, yes. After years this is also what it turned into. I have more personal amenities at work than I have at home.
So being an incel is good now? Otherwise this seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
On the contrary, anon is saying only an celibate would buy the propaganda about women being pleasant out of ignorance.
no one ever said life was supposed to be cool, we're meant to be stoning elephants from trees
Insufferable people are pumped together by process of elimination
Incels end up with girl boss Disney adult nags, high value men retain high value women.
This. I love my partner with all my heart but after 7 years it's only made me MORE sexist. Being around a woman 24/7 really makes you understand their thought processes and how they function and they're literally all nuts.
It's time we admit women are worthless. Men make better companions. Only a man can understand what goes through your mind. What's a woman going to say when you tell her your greatest aspirations and fears? "Ok. Let's watch Netflix." And since we're being honest, I don't even find women attractive. Men have much hotter physiques. You don't have to be gay to acknowledge that.
Nah homie, you gay.
I hate women but I'm sexually attracted to them
You found a bad woman.
Married boomers warning future generations, now apologize
FATHER I CANNOT CLICK BOOK
If you ever get married you're gonna hate your wife when she turns into a fat nagging frigid b***h too.
>trope
anyone that has been with a woman for any length of time hates them.
>Hate my wife trope bad
Thays why Modern family good
Ariel Winter is the true queen of Cinemaphile
>breast reduction
Queen status have been removed. New recipient is tbd.
AI is the future, Mon Ami
You can like women, or you can UNDERSTAND women. But you can’t have both. I love my girlfriend for what she is, like a pet with fewer redeeming qualities, but I don’t fricking like her and I never will.
i like my gf she's my pal we have fun and laugh together all the time
This guy doesn't understand women, what a dope
she also let's me creampie her like 8 times a day
Long have you been together
3 moths to be honest, very well could just be the honey moon period. she's very sweet to me though, she cooks for me, let's me sleep in even when she goes to work and also didn't give a frick that i quit my job. she is cute af too
Does anyone here actually like their girl? Besides this gay
aren't you supposed to like your girl? like why be with them if you don't?
I've been with mine for almost 7 years and I couldn't imagine life without her
Yeah man, been with my wife for 11 years and married for 6, she's my best pal. Love hanging out with that motherfricker
We've got really similar interests and she's got even more fricked up fetishes than me
You are in the honeymoon period, wait until a year plus and report back
enjoy the honeymoon
thanks anon i am so far
i have this except for ive been with my gf 10 years, it helps that we both think everyone else in the world is below us and that theres no one we could find better than each other
awesome, i have had bad luck in love but trying to be more intentional. i hope i can make this a long term relationship.
fair i know i'm in the early stages and things will eventually get less fun but i also was dating several girls at the beginning of the year but didn't settle for any of them until i met this one then i locked her down as soon as i could without seeming overeager because i like her as a person, she's feminine and sweet, pretty and amazing in bed. aren't you supposed to screen like this? i dated a couple other girls that were good looking but they were annoying and i knew it wouldn't be a fun relationship so i dropped them even though it was free pussy
>3 months
That's fricking nothing lmao.
Try ten years like me. I still don't agree with the other guy, but I acknowledge that you have to treat women like children for anything to work longer-term.
>3 months
I like how this is a sarcastic Yoda statement
And it flew right over anon's head
Yeah what is this thread do people actually choose to be with people they despise this is so depressing
Not just woman, be around any person for a long time and you start to get annoyed by them
propaganda designed specifically to weaken the American family unit because monkey see monkey do
That and the writers were in shitty marriages and were just venting through their work.
hmm i wonder who the writers were
Marriage is just an objectively bad deal for a man. Men realize this and grow to resent the person who tricked them into it.
boomers unironically literally actually hated their wife and kids
this
growing up in the peak age of america, and human civillization in history, on top of other factors, made a pandemic of narcissist demons hell bent on destroying all natural resources and beauty in the world
This is the actual reason
Because they were entitled pricks who spoiled an age of prosperity.
Wrong as usual, that would be zoomers.
Whilst I refuse to believe that webm isn't Le fake, you do realise this happens because parents baby their children and smother them in distraction devices, and never want them to do chores, right?
I'm not sure if Gen X and even Y parents are any better than Boomers in that regard. Money goes up but IQ goes down and handymen are making a killing.
ragebait
If true its just shitty parenting, my mum was big in gardening, home grown veg and cooking and I had to help her out with it as soon as I was old enough. Now I'm in my 30s and I meet people my own age who can't do shit I was doing when I was 5.
She had my 6 year old niece in a net suit the other day helping her with beekeeping.
When I went to college it took me 8 months to figure out how to use the can opener, I used to just beat the cans until they split open but that got kinda messy
it's not a trope, having a wife just genuinely sucks ass
Before divorce was acceptable and mainstream, people tended to get married young, often out of desire for legitimate sexual intercourse. They would then grow older, fall out of love, but be stuck with each other. So hating your spouse, seeing them as a drag and marriage as a trap, became a trope.
Would this actually work?
Chris Watts kicking himself in prison right now
WIFE BAD KILL WIFE
american women
It's gonna be fun when zoomers start marrying and realize they're not escaping from this with communication, comprehension and couples therapy as they were led to believe.
>Zoomer
>Marrying
Lol, say what you want about zoom zoom but they're the first informed generation thanks to the internet. Doesn't mean they're gonna do anything smart with it, but it certainly mean they'll have an easier time avoiding shit that demolished the previous generation.
Man of the past just didn't know what the frick was going on and just followed disney movies and the status quo.
Now because of an actual detailed look at statistics and a direct window into other men's life, all the young guys that I know are either avoiding women like the plague (if they're not hot enough or interested in the hassle) or doing no string attached commitment free sex with no intention of sticking around for the daily "would you still love me if I fricked 15 other dudes on our bed" conversation.
I see a lot of zoomers marrying on tiktok, and their marriages, not just the ceremony but the whole relationship, are always cottagecore vintage yadda yadda, they pretty much larp as a couple. I don't know what's gonna happen, but despite what feminists say, it's women who pressure men into marriage, and a lot of times it's a dealbreaker for them not doing it. Marriage still a social pressure and a fantasy/dream for a lot of people, I don't see it truly going away.
Anecdotes, all statistics point to the opposite. Yes, people still get married but that number is literally half of what it was in the 90s.
Granted, the remaining people getting married are getting divorced less.
Still, it's foolish to think we're not gonna be dealing with a dangerous amount crazy post wall bitter roasties and peter pan incel in the upcoming decades.
Undergrads at the school I went to get married all the time. I constantly here the girls at the bar showing off their rings and shit.
Couples therapy is a scam turned into a million dollar industry by feminists and effeminate men. The entire purpose is to force a man into an emasculated dynamic.
Do you know what women do when they feel like they’re losing control over someone? Before they get all crazy and desperate and masculine in the final stages?
They corner the individual (or put them in a group chat in more modern times), set the group against them, and browbeat them into submission. Women don’t talk for the same reasons men do. Women talk to gather intelligence they can use against people later. That’s why they become so frustrated yet excited when a man is aloof with them. The most powerful man is one that woman has ZERO dirt on and cannot predict. Why do you think every paranormal “romance” ever has the plot point of “she can’t read the Chad’s mind lol”?
“Communication” means “Give me ammunition against you. Show me your playing hand.”.
Its another Cinemaphile projects millennial cuck behaviour onto zoomers episode
Zoomers are the most racist, sexist generation in a loooong time. We hate women and are not afraid to say it.
Zoomers are the most progressive in recent years, the conservative LARP is tiring knowing the majority of them are gay or bi
Sure thing just like my generation was the edgiest ever and gen X before that and boomers before that get real it's all the same shit it's all been done before
A lot of what people are describing itt just sounds like reliance or depending on someone like this guy literally describes relying on his partner as a definition of love :
a real relationship rests on more than what you directly get out of it and if it can be reduced to pragmatic ends and means that's just sad
I hate my girlfriend so much it's unreal. I've stopped having sex with her for the last 5 months and I'm probably just going to break up with her lol
Where do you think it came from, you stupid c**t?
lmao
If humans weren't meant to be married then what is the natural state of things? Are we really just designed to be a pump n dump species?
>what is the natural state of things
One alpha chad fricking 10 women in his harem.
The natural state is worse
Some of the uncontacted tribes still practice it, in the Amazon, corners of Africa, little islands
Basically women live communally in villages and shit out babies, men orbit the villages and sometimes frick women, although it's often in loose harems where a more dominant male has multiple women
Every generation 80% of the men die through violence or misadventure
It was such a shit setup that the minute some autist in Mesopotamia invented agriculture and monogamy 10,000 years ago, the ideas were so logistically superior that they genocided that shit off the face of the earth
>It was such a shit setup that the minute some autist in Mesopotamia invented agriculture and monogamy 10,000 years ago, the ideas were so logistically superior that they genocided that shit off the face of the earth
yup
socially enforced monogamy is unironically the greatest invention in the history of mankind and the cornerstone of civilization.
I think there's a natural rise and fall to marriages from approx. one generation to the next.
When nobody's getting married, the only marriages are those who are really in love, really suited to it andeach other, and they make marriage look good. So more people get married.
When everybody's getting married, a lot of those marriages are done frivously, by people who don't really love each other and aren't really suited, etc. So now marriage looks bad.
There are other factors too, of course.
I don't think it's either or because there's always those couples who are genuinely a love match and, like, live to 90 and die within two weeks of each other. Sadly it's not like that for many.
The problem in not marriage in itself, but how it works currently. You're pretty much rewarded for fricking it, and it's very biased for women. And despite what feminists say, it's women who push men into it. I don't know a single men who cares about it.
its the aspect of being forced to be next to someone for 24 hours a day, every day of your life, until you die.
its the choking, non-ending presence of her in fricking everything.
people don't realize how suffocating it is, especially after 10+ years, when the sex dries up, her looks start to fade, and you are just left saddled to a highly emotional, impractical, child, who grows increasingly bitter and self-conscious. much of this could be alleviated if space was more accepted and encouraged in marriage, for instance, being 'normal' to be allowed to occasionally sleep in different rooms in order to attain even a miniscule moment of alone-time, or even live in different places. space and individuality are an important aspect in keeping romance alive, in an analogous way that pulling out is just as important in thrusting in sex. understandably, though, women seem to despise the aspect of encouraging their husbands independence, this as it threatens their security -- they are afraid the husband will realize they don't need her, and leave.
there are certainly some who are exceptions, and have wonderful marriages their whole life. but, in my view, most husbands know their lives would be better off without their wife. they remain because of the promise they made. in my view, the deal of marriage is you get a woman at the absolute prime of her life, 18-20s into early 30s, whatever, and get her absolute best years, while hundreds of other guys would die to have her. in return for the 10~ prime years where everyone wants her, you agree to take the years when other men don't, her 40s onwards. you also agree not to abandon her because of her sacrifices made in child-birth, which are significant.
however, what a raw deal for those who marry someone, getting neither the woman's prime, nor her contribution of child-birth, those who marry a woman in her early 30s who wants no children, they get minimal rewards, instead taking on largely the years of burden.
you have never put your penis inside of a womans body
may i infer that you have put your penis in a woman?
if so, having properly soaked up veganal juices through your dickhole, and into your brain, please share the enlightenment you have reached
I don’t 100% agree with all that shit but women do hate when you have hobbies. I used to frisbee golf to get out of the house and my ex hated it because she wanted to hang out with me all fricking day. Then when I invited her to come play she b***hed and moaned the entire time and didn’t remotely try to enjoy being out together.
Now I’m married and my wife is amazing but she still every once awhile makes little passive aggressive comments when I want to play a video game or paint minis after we’ve put our son to bed instead of sitting there watching TV and doing nothing for two hours. I got her into building Lego sets so that shuts her up but frick if they aren’t expensive just to get some nights peace
>play a video game or paint minis
listen no offense anon but the problem isn't that you do things on your own, its what you do. your 'amazing' wife is resentful that you aren't outside splitting firewood with a maul or stripping down a truck engine or playing jazz guitar. no matter how much of a NYURD GURRRL you think she is, what she really wants is a typical macho man with macho interests.
>when the sex dries up
She's cheating.
>women seem to despise the aspect of encouraging their husbands independence, this as it threatens their security -- they are afraid the husband will realize they don't need her, and leave.
Because then they'd have to be on their best behavior or else the guy would dip. They don't want to work for it.
Polygyny (one man several wives) with women occasionally cheating. The problem is that the natural state of things isn't conducive to civilization. It also differs a bit between races with Europeans (particularly Northern Europeans) practicing far great monogamy with less cheating relative to other groups. At least that used to be true historically.
the natural state of thing features rape and murder.
the word cuck comes from Cuckoo Birds. their reproductive strategy is infamous. So is praying Mantis reproduction
This is true. Women like dark triad behavior because men like me are supposed to rape or kidnap or socially pressure women then bully them into catching feels
Instead we spend all day seething online about the fricking government
Monogamy and marriage is the norm for humans. Any other suggestion is someone's cope.
>But look at these tribes!!
Most other ones practice monogamy.
>But look at genetics!!!
Male lineages are under greater selection because men are under much less protection than women, not because stone-age chad had a harem of ten women. also, mitochondria mutate more slowly than y-chromosomes
Dying quicker. Bang out 5 kids and have her die in childbirth
>the natural state of things
note: natural does not mean 'nice' or even 'good'. nature is vicious, and indifferent to the individual
humans are adapted to live in small-ish (20-100 max) bands of semi-nomadic hunter-gatherers, which is pretty much a very large extended family, and who are likely in sometimes-friends-sometimes-enemies mode with other bands in the same area. The bands are probably polygamous, but it depends on the exact circumstances at that point in time (polygamy is indicative of a high level of male mortality, so fierce competition) and switches to (serial) monogamy when (if) the situation stabilizes.
This is how we've been rolling for the past 200,000 years or so. A few millennia of agriculture (and less than a few centuries of urbanization) aren't going to change that so quickly.
nature also have partners for life, it's not all rape all the time, either
There will be as many sexual and social arrangements between future humans as have emerged between any different mammals... Mosh widely dispersed species... We are the creature which will fill the mega fauna niches
>natural sate of things
>pump n dump
No, the father sticks around to raise and feed the children. But there is no biological need to stay chained to an old harpy. Men stay fertile for way longer than women do.
Marriage only exists in order to protect old women from being abandoned. It's a social invention that became a necessity when we stopped hanging out in small tribes.
The natural state also involves beating her when she is being irrational.
Women were gangbanged all the time by multiple dudes and there were no paternity tests back in the day so children were just raised communally by the whole tribe. Monogamy is not natural for humans in that state, but it’s necessary imo in our current state of civilization.
War used to be used for depopulation but this endangered our owners in World War 2 so since then it has been done via propaganda. This is just one part of it.
Can this trend be reversed?
What happened in 1980?
the baby boomer hippies/beatniks grew up and became patrick bateman, gordon gekko yuppies and went into full-overdrive of fricking shit up for everyone
~~*Punch and Judy*~~
definitely comes from the honeymooners. they’re the “simpsons did it” of sitcoms
It's a "timmy has never been in a relationship for longer than 3 months" thread.
It's a Chang has never been touched by a woman episode
It was real from the beginning of time to the year 2000.
me, parents still together btw and my dad constantly busts balls
Reminder that marriage is a total sham.
After 17 years of marriage my wife cheated on me. It was back in november and I had my dak prescott jersey on because it was gameday, I went into the grocery store down the street and saw her in the ice cream aisle with some 6’7 ripped black guy (she didn’t know I also needed to go to the store). I literally still havent recovered from it
probably will get cirrhosis and die
sorry chang
kek what the frick is this from?
answer pls
hey can you answer my question. thanks.
Flight (2012)
Cool story but you're probably a yellow incel
>itt
Fat women are so fricking gross. WHAT THE FRICK!
Fat girls are so fricking gross. I don't know what causes a virgin to set aside their standards and frick a hambeast like this,
Every hole's a goal
>Every hole's a goal
that dude looks like Frog from The Wire
She's got like 10 years to spend that before she drops dead from heart failure
IRS says hello
Why are beta males so desperate to frick hideous b***hes like shit?
What lack of pussy does to a mf
I went through a 7 year streak of not having sex and it never crossed my mind to frick a fat girl.
As stated many times before he's just securing his insulin
I bet this is one of those situations where she was really hot when they got married lmao
I'd rather jack off than frick fat girls.
how do you get past the stench?
>normal gay
>humping a woman while squatting
sirs do not redeem we have indians in this thread
I do both of these
me too i just like the image not sure why i posted it tbh
The average normalgay aint having sex either matey. This ain't the 90s.
Lmao the funniest part is most of you believe this shit
Both of these images are literally me though
I sometimes feel as though the strangest of all is to be both part normie, part reject. A sex haver who is lonely.
same tbqh
I literally have a girlfriend and close friends but I’m a fricking weirdo and feel alienated from pretty much everyone I know. Partially due to some shit that happened in the past with myself but still, it’s weird. It’s like I have the mindset of a borderline incel and a fricking loser but my life is seemingly normal or even successful.
They will never understand us so it’s better to keep the mask on and try to blend in
It's because you're living fake lives. You just do whatever you think will make you fit in. So you hangout with normalgay fricks that you have nothing incommon with, where you'll just stand in a circle talking about gossip and other such things that interest the low IQ mind, and you say nothing and can't help but think, "Is this it?"
I find happiness in building things and indulging in hobbies/interests I like. And I'm working on doing a better job of just being myself and trying to find people who are like me, that will bring me happiness. I've managed to pull it off a few times... But I lost part of myself in trying to be like the normalgays, so they see me the way I see them.
There's nothing to gain in trying to fit in. There's a lot to lose in that you end up as an abomination that's a mix of the two, and so you never belong to either group.
Based post. It’s hard to see someone strip away parts of who they are to try and fit in. My friend is like this but he’s getting more active in his autistic hobbies and joining clubs and shit for them. Never seen him so happy.
This was me when I met my gf, but I actually fell in love with her. I go to the gym regularly a she started coming with me, she went from a hamplanet to a decent t size thicc chick. True love exists anons you just have to fight for it
Just be careful she doesn't leave you now that she's going to get more attention. Fat b***hes that have become thin tend to grow the most insufferable personalities of them all.
This is literally me but I’m not married I just frick random fatties
GIWTWM
hmmm......
Bleak
Rather die a virgin than be seen fricking a fat girl
The millennial experience
it do be like that
I was about to frick a fat grill (fat for yuro standard, so it's a regular girl for burgers) once, but when I realized what I was going to do I just faked a stomach ache and left. At the moment I felt like shit, but now years after I realize I did the right thing. No man should ever go as low as fricking a fat girl, if he doesn't want to.
jews. starting with the honeymooners.
Ralph didn't hate Alice dip shit..did anyone of you even watch the honeymooners
Men being married.
t. a husband
It's called bantz. Women love getting roasted
It was part of MK Ultra to drive a wedge between not just men and women but the average white christian american family so the NWO globalization could begin.
>There is always a crotchety middle aged or older male character who hates his wife and treats her like shit
what sitcoms are you watching? nearly every single sitcom that stretches back to the 1950s is always using the "hot wife who serves as the voice of reason/dumb overconfident husband" trope, I don't know of a single sitcom that uses the trope you mentioned.
>I don't know of a single sitcom that uses the trope you mentioned.
Married with Children, now kys zoomer FRICK
>had a gf that was 120lbs and had a higher sex drive than I did
>couldn't stand living with her so I broke up with her half a year ago
>she ended up cheating on her new boyfriend with me and I blocked her afterwards and then sent proof to the guy
>he actually forgave her
sounds like you are the one who messed up, but I cannot tell how.
Woman moment.
>he forgave her
What causes men to be like this?
loneliness
to the point they'll be with someone who cheated on them?
Nah, lots of guys forgive unforgivable shit from women. It's normal.
Low self-esteem.
How can someone stay with another person after finding out they were cheated on? It's bizarre...
Literally any relationship goes to shit after about something like 5 or 7 years. After that period, people will generally stay together for the kids, out of some kind of duty, because they're dependent on the other person or afraid of being single. Married people are in that situation, so the "take my wife please" trope was pandering to them.
I'm sorry your dad abandoned your mom and ran off with another man, anon, but that's between you and your therapist.
>troony baiters on 4chinz always told me I’d stop hating women like a heckin chud if I got a gf
>got one
>hate women more than ever
I feel lied to.
198979959
Good god, they think spacing fixes their wall of texts no one reads, social cripples.
They dont really hate their wives, its just a misdirected vent for sexual frustration. I’ve been married for 8 years and love my wife but the fact I cant frick random girls anymore honestly puts me in a deep depression on some days. Life sucks and you’ll never get what you really want. Learn to bear it.
you can, just as long as she doesn't find out
Have you ever been around a woman?
When I read through some of the comments ITT, it becomes obvious how many of you have fricked up mommy issues. Some of you are like the inverse of women who have fricked up relationships with their fathers, and you don't even realize it.
Elaborate. I’ve actually never been clear on what ‘mommy issues’ in men are and how they manifest so am curious
It means you have a poor relationship with your mother, leading to a lifetime of poor relationships or resentment towards women in general. If you have a decent mother and a good relationship with her, then chances are you won't have a blanket hatred of all women, since you will have been raised by a good representation of a positive female role model in your life. I recognize that there are a lot of worthless, awful b***hes out there, but I also know that women aren't inherently awful either, because my mother is a truly decent human being. Some of the people in this thread are no different than the femcels who rage against all men because they had emotionally distant or abusive fathers, which developed into a mistrust and hatred of all men. The biggest difference is that women with daddy issues tend to become prostitutes, seeking the male affection they never had, while men with mommy issues become incels, unable to relate to women in any meaningful way.
I adore my mother and have a great relationship with her but I also think her relationship with my father has really given me a negative view of her and women in general. I still frick(ed) b***hes and have a beloved girlfriend though so idk. You’re definitely onto something. I think inceldom has more to do with alienation than anything else, how you view women actually has very little bearing on whether you get b***hes (see: woman-loving “nice guys” who get no b***hes and mysoginistic “chads” who do)
Based posters explaining how monogamous cultures rose above others at an unparalleled rate
Men with mommy issues: mom did everything for the son while not properly encouraging them to become independent or providing a strong punishment when they misbehave. Extremely common with perpetually single mothers. Lack of strong father figure will further their failure to become independent, they don’t witness how a man is supposed to treat a woman the right way, along with no “oh frick I’m actually in trouble” moments because women rarely abandon their sons (so she’s reluctant to properly scold their son when they act out of line). Probably didn’t explain the women punishing son thing well, but I hope that makes some sort of sense.
The result is a manchild who places unrealistic expectations on women. They expect their partner to be like their mother. Not attentive to their needs.
For the attractive male, this creates a cycle of attracting women who let themselves be stepped on constantly. For the unattractive male, they usually become the stereotypical incel.
99% of 4chin posters are like this btw.
my mom was SUPER strict with me and my dad was a piece of shit but at least he was there. however my mom mellowed out around the time i was graduating high school. i've always loved my mom but i got in trouble constantly growing up, way more so than my friends
It was inadvertently created when an usher told Henny Youngman he will "Take his wife"
>an entire generation keeps saying how marriage is bad, how kids are awful and being married is the worst thing ever
>then they wonder why their kids don't get married
Why are boomers so moronic?
Reality. Men hate women. Your holes are the reason your gender hasn't been exterminated by now.
Women hate women too. That's no secret.
I've known two women who were actually cool. One killed herself and the other trooped out.
You people are so fricking miserable you seriously think the rest of the world and everyone else thinks this way
You are in miserable relationships because you get what you put out to the world and you don't warrant anything better. You can cultivate real relationships with people in a sincere way and experience love but you choose to be lazy and retreat into bitterness spirals in your head. It isn't helpful to you in any way.
How do you account for people who have friendships and relationships that are happy and rewarding? Good relationships aren't in the majority and neither are good people but that's precisely because of people choosing the bitterness pill like you lot and pulling down the walls over a small patch of bad feeling that you have cultivated as your life. Seriously I mean this post completely in earnest. It's easy to do what you are doing now, it's hard but so fulfilling to work towards something better.
Bunch of sad saps honestly and you winder why you only attract the lowest caliber of women give me a fricking break
This. I love my wife with all my heart and couldn't imagine my life without her.
Why are you even in a relationship if it makes you so miserable?
>Why are you even in a relationship if it makes you so miserable?
nta but I stayed with my girlfriend for half a decade because she paid bills, cooked and cleaned. I started hating her even more during the last year of our relationship and it boiled over on Christmas and I dumped her
>Ctrl+f pokemon creatures
>0 results
you dips
because it's funny? and you can mock the husband for being and oaf and make fun of the wife at the same time, etc, you can rile up either or when they go see a stand-up show.
humor, laughs, everything didn't used to be so damn sensitive
>Who actually finds this funny?
Certainly not redditors.
>Where did the “I hate my wife” trope come from in sitcoms?
Real life. Boomers can relate, hence it's funny.
In sitcoms it just seems eerie because the wives are usually actually attractive, loyal and loving.
Obviously a liberal psyop to denigrate the institution of marriage.
>monogamous longterm relationships are... the bad
Wow you Cinemaphile posters sure know a lot about chicks
When you live with women you tend to gain experiences on how they behave
>Every man's face after being married for over a year
So you all products of unhappy marriages or what? I don't see how you could have this worldview if you had a loving mom and dad relationship. Like I know you aren't right because I can just look at people in my family and I know they are happy together, primarily my mother and father. This whole thread just makes me glad for that like if I came from a loveless household of silent misery I would have grown into this deformed mindset
How ignorant are you? Have you seen the divorce rate and amount of children born to single moms since the 90s? It's a good 3/5 chance every post itt is from a broken home or single mom.
I guess it's just hard to relate
No one in my extended family has had divorce or unhappy marriages I just never grew up seeing that sort of thing. Only from hearing about the family dynamics of my friends etc. But in retrospect even then like in high school I just assumed they were exaggerating and that their home lives were probably really comparable to my 'normal' one in more ways than they let on. And I still feel that way to a degree
Idk it just doesnt seem that hard to have a good relationship. Most people must be stupid buttholes
>Most people must be stupid buttholes
Well done, anon. I think you've found the root to all of humanity's troubles.
most of the men in my family were, idk, pretty cucked and under their wife's thumb, it was nothing like these boomer comics so i can't relate
Boomers didn't marry their childhood sweetheart or that nice girl from Church (they probably stopped going to church as a young adult), they married some roastie ex-hippie chick after "playing the field" and spending the 60s and 70s at clubs, discos, festivals, etc. Boomer Men are secretly disappointed and ashamed of their wives because they aren't the traditional feminine princess they were promised by the TV that raised them, but a partied out bawd that spent more time worrying about her career than her children. Boomer Men settled for whatever they could get, and their only outlet is passive aggressively degrading their prostitute wife in middle/old age. Its a massive cope for the fact they were bamboozled like every generation since the """greatest""" generation.
make up your mind, schizo
chuds keep blaming the matriarchy for fat/ugly women being picky but the blame lies squarely on men for not keeping their libido in check
Less than 10% of men ruining everything and women being fine with it has been the single most mind boggling thing of my lifetime. And I've seen some stupid shit.
Jews
Boomers would knock up their high school sweethearts by age 20 and by the time they are in their late 40s and the kids are over 18 they will be bored of and hate each other but won't break up.
Been unhappy for years, and will probably be for years to come if things don't change. But 2 yrs marriage and 2 kids I don't know how to change without significantly damaging it all
>AIIEE WHY ARE BOOMERS MAKING FUN OF MARRIAGE AND THEIR HUSBANDS AND WIVEEES
because it's funny, you morons. comedic marital dysfunction has been a thing since ancient greece
Being an incel makes you hate women superficially. Being with women will make you hate them on a fundamental leve.
women are difficult to deal with.
the test of being a man (a real one who wants to raise a family and make sure they survive when he is gone) is learning how to project what a woman needs.
you can be selfish and demand they pamper you, but the kind of woman who will do that will be damaged and their nurturing instinct will be projected onto you, which is just wrong. this is why marriages fail. this is why relationships dont last. this is why people care more about bulldogs than their own families.
its meant to be hard, but you're supposed to keep it together for your family.
im not even being ironic when i say that if she cheats, its because you failed in your role of choosing a woman first, and keeping her sane second.
>im not even being ironic when i say that if she cheats, its because you failed in your role of choosing a woman first, and keeping her sane second.
You do realise that in nature, animals cheat all the time, because marriage isn't an evolutionary trait and the closest to it in nature is when the male dies after mating, which itself isn't a trait unique to species where the female mates once and never again?
You haven't failed. Women are, by design, unfaithful, and contraception rewards that behaviour so well that some women never have children no matter how many wiener carousels they go on.
i don't disagree with you.
i have no interest in a long-term relationship because im aware enough to know what it takes to make it work.
the problem is that everyone on here has convinced themselves that women are c**ts because they cant get or keep one long term.
all im doing is saying why. if you dont want to make that sacrifice, just frick the dumb ones and keep doing whatever you want.
if you the fulfillment of a family and long-term shit, then get to shelve your own wants and needs in order to provide for the family.
There are multiple animal species that will mate for life though.
Most of these arent true. Theyll have extra pair copulation. People just trying to romanticize nature
A lot of birds are monogamous. Mammals are mostly stupid prostitutes.
True but studies also found out that even in monogamous species around 20% or more of baby chicks were fathered by someone else.
>yfw you realize there are female dik-diks
Maybe media literacy isn't a meme after all. You guys seem to be confused by tropes going back to the Bronze Age.
> No respect, I tells ya..
From reality
Most people end up hating their spouses over time. It was cathartic for boomers who hated their own wives, I suppose.
jews attempting to weaken the family
Like that israelite Homer depicting Hera as a nagging wife.
People used to actually settle down with whoever they knocked up, which leads to a life of misery but for the sake of the children you’d go through it, nowadays people only give a shit about themselves
A wise man once said something like "women marry men hoping they will change, but they won't. Men marry women hoping they won't change, but they will."
Aka they will get fat and the sex will dry up
my samegay radar is off the charts here
My fiancee annoys me every day. Been gradually emotionally distancing myself from her. I think her parents can tell what's up, but she seems clueless. Her parents made a comment about trying to get her to change her habits. I didn't say anything in response. The vibe I get is "we want you guys to stay together and are trying to help but we understand if you end up leaving". Honestly I will miss them more than her, they're nice people and we've always gotten along.
Jews
from boomers being a generation of narcissistic abusers
Shitlennial crybaby.
I went Mother’s Day card shopping the other day, and full on half the cards were “words words words men are shit lol.” You don’t see this stuff with Father’s Day cards.
Yeah misandry has been outright normalized over the past 60 years, we don't even think twice about it. Whenever a man hates on a woman though it's a curious, controversial thing. I'm always floored by how freely groups of women hate on their men together casually, my friends and I almost never speak ill of our partners when together.
And to think 10 years ago only the most terminally online tumblrina whales could come up with shit like that.
Women believe being a man is easy
Is that the trope you see? I think dumb/silly dad who constantly gets hated on by his wiser, fed up wife is the more common one.
In real life yes, boomers engage in active spouse-hate. It's mostly because women are incredibly overbearing and you aren't allowed to smack sense into them anymore.
It’s just like me and Cinemaphile
I've disliked the few women I've been with but always pretended not to. I love my mom but she is also really annoying. It's hard to explain, it's something new every single day
Shows always sugarcoat what women can be like, as such it seems excessive, but isn't actually.
While I'm not too fond of female people, you guys here seem to view them by the lowest common denominator possible, which is kinda dangerous. Why? Because the moment you go to real life and meet an even slightly human woman you will put her in a pedestal. And the reason I feel like I said about them is that doesn't matter how smart, interesting or chill a woman is, they'll still behave like woman and you'll still need to treat them like one, and not just another person as they claim you should. Otherwise you will either frick your relationship or be in a fricked relationship. I fell for that bait and wish I didn't. And that's probably where the trope comes from: people think it's about marrying the wrong person, but even if you didn't, after they honeymoon period, you will inevitably find out you're dealing with a woman, and no, she's not as different as you thought she was.
From reality. Men tend to age like wine, while women age like milk. As men age they typically accumulate more wealth, which makes them attractive mates compared to younger less experienced males who are still in their "college party andor living in moms basement" phase. Womens attractiveness to men has nothing to do with their achievements or their money, its all about their youth and beauty-- And while plenty of women age gracefully and some even age into milfs, MOST women's looks go right down the shitter after their 20's, and both men and women have a tendency to "let themselves go" a bit once they're in committed relationships and out of the dating marketplace.
honestly it's really fricked up how humans only value each other for superficial things (money and looks)
They aren't superficial at all. A strong buff dude can use those muscles to build a house and hunt for food to provide for his woman. A guy with money can do the same thing-- money allows me to put a roof over their heads, food on their plate, and if the guy has "excess" money, it can improve the quality of the house and food, and provide additional comforts. A women's looks aren't superficial, they're a useful indicator of the quality of her genes and ability to carry and birth children. Younger women have fewer complications during pregnancy and birth than older women. Age aside, a young women with who has fricked up eyes and needs coke bottle glasses, fricked up teeth, or other visible health problems signals to potential male mates that making a baby with that particular woman could result in unhealthy offspring (or offspring what will struggle to mate and continue passing down genes). None of this is superficial stuff, it all has real ramifications in the real world.
an important distinction to make is that as society changed, it made female dating preferences obsolete, but not male ones.
it is still the case that procreating with a young, conventionally attractive female is optimal for a man. ofc, modern medicine has certainly made it more possible for older and/or less healthy women to procreate, but its still very much suboptimal.
in contrast, the female preference for large, violent, alpha thugs is entirely suboptimal in the modern world. the most successful men in modern societies are the intelligent ones, not the thugs. thugs generally end up in prison or doing menial labour.
Hardly, a noodle armed beta male is a prime target for mugging or burgling or other violent crime in the city, or some drunk moron looking for a fight outside of it.
While the idea of making lots of money seems pointless to you, it's the difference between worrying about how bills are going to be paid and staycations vs shopping for a new car and a nice trip to a tropical island in February.
>Hardly, a noodle armed beta male is a prime target for mugging or burgling or other violent crime in the city
unless you live in ((certain areas)) populated by ((certain people)), this is not a practical concern.
>While the idea of making lots of money seems pointless to you
my whole point was that the intelligent nerds are much more likely to make lots of money and thus be capable of supporting a family
Women are still interested in large strong men. The nerds are there for betabucks, most adult women have a shared experience of going after bad boys and then settling for a "good man" after they have "matured".
yes, dumbass, that's my point.
people still have mating preferences straight out of prehistory, which makes sense since evolution works over enormous timescales, much larger than the few thousand years it took us to develop modern civilization
the difference is that while male mating preferences are still optimal, female ones are entirely suboptimal.
>in contrast, the female preference for large, violent, alpha thugs is entirely suboptimal in the modern world. the most successful men in modern societies are the intelligent ones, not the thugs. thugs generally end up in prison or doing menial labour.
The most aggressive men get killed off in wars which is why Germany today is totally beta and cuckolded--all the alphas died in the world wars and only the Milhouse types remain in the genetic pool.
>tfw married with kids
>tfw love them and we have a good time together
>mfw 90% of people are miserable because they're bottom shelf b***hes who attract other bottom shelf b***hes and they torture each other until they die alone
this
glad i can relate to
and the families are chill, cant think of anyone close to the family who has been divorced.
compare monogamous cultures to "natural" ones
it creates a state of constant competition that correlates with high mortality.
I think you see this happening in the West. Men are all raging and malding over women, even the successful ones, pre-occupying their mind with competitive mating tactics instead of seeking stable monogamy. I think this creates a constant state of insecurity which distracts from the intellectual growth and emotional stability that's required to advance families from one generation to the next without fricking up existing infrastructure. And no shit, women participating in such a culture are going to feel constantly insecure as well.
Interestingly enough, everyone understands and seeks the benefits of monogamy despite all this. Makes sense why men are pissed about modern women, and why women don't fully commit to anything. Your subconscious is constantly screaming at you that there's no stability here.
The only solution is to encourage (realistically, "enforce") a culture of monogamy.
If you don't hate all women at this point I don't know what to tell you
I just have an affair on my wife so I don't have to hate her. Back then people didn't have affairs as they didn't have internet or dating apps.
Nowadays everyone has 3 people.
>His wife (house girl)
>His mistress (Outside girl)
>His pleasures (hookups)
My wife is there for the kids. The mistress is there to impress others with her looks. The hookups are there to satisfy my nastiest fantasies.
These are all different types of women with different qualities. My wife is motherly and homely and shares my conservative values.
My mistress is outgoing "pixie" type and shares my interests and holiday destination preferences.
The hookups are there purely for fetish reasons or because I want to frick specific bodytypes.
>my conservative values
>is a degenerate cheater
really weird larp. you dont have any women and are probably a mexican
>Never get with the chick who's been passed around in your social circle.
>Never entertain a long-distance relationship because she is most definitely cheating.
>Don't let yourself get friend-zoned IE don't be her fricking friend. If she's not into you like that, give up on her completely.
>If your girl got drunk at a party and got frisky with some other dude, dump her. Even if it was just a kiss, no forgiveness.
>If your girl gets frisky with another chick, dump her. That's still cheating.
>If your girl isn't giving you any for several days in a row, dump her. She's either getting fricked somewhere else or she's playing games.
>You can't fix her. Never be Captain Save-a-Ho.
>Captain Save-a-Ho.
Never heard that one before.
it is interesting to me, the people that are madly in love with their wife after 10+ years together.
i have to imagine, what exactly is it that makes them enjoy being with the same person for that long.
especially when neither person is particularly attractive, or interesting, or funny.
One of my buds commented that he believes that boomer wives were the first women to be a apart of the “womens liberation” movement.
So basically they’re the same type of women zoomer incels shit on today but 40 years older. The only difference is that the cultural inertia of marriage and cohabitation was still in effect so these women weren’t mondo prostitutes but we’re just as unbearable as the modern female
Only shitskins hit women. Go have a nice day Black person
It's from the old borscht belt and music hall comedians.
Most sitcoms back in the day were based on old stage act subject matter, because they already knew what was successful and popular on stage, they then translated it first to radio, then TV, especially when they could get away with being a bit more spicy.
You could argue it goes back even to Punch and Judy. The harridan/battle axe wife thing is pretty old, there even used to be a trope where the wife would beat the husband with a frying pan in the head like it was nothing. Even Punch and Judy was about a marriage where they abused each other.
What are you on about? I'm not American so I married a virgin. They're very real here.
>How will you feel when your kids have leftover dna from her past lovers?
that...is not how genetics work, anon
It all boils down to alcohol and drugs. The more you and/or your S/O uses those the worse your marriage will be. Most couples who lived to 90 and die in a week of each other were probably teetotalers.
I’ve slept around with other women before too so it’d be hypocritical to judge her. Sounds like your situation might be different.
>live close enough as children/teens that you can mature and become independent together
One guy had this but she cheated on him anyway. They were married too. Dude moved on, got married again and had kids. Dude's sister contacts him and tells him the first girl has cancer and it's terminal. First girl wants to spend the last of her time on Earth with him as a pretend-husband.
Can you imagine how much better and easier relationships were you were allowed to just give your woman a smack if she was being a moronic uppity hysterical c**t?