Space odyssey is the logh of gaming, really boring but pseuds pretend to like it because of muh philosophical bullshit due to how much it’s gatekept and inaeccessible to normalgays
I don't understand how you can watch 2001 and not like it. I didn't really care much about the philosophical themes, which were only that, themes. The technical perfection of it blows you away, I feel like you must have went in with a mindset of not wanting to like it, or watched it on too small a screen. The flow of the shots with the music and perfect composition gives me goosebumps.
For me its top ten. I think it's a really gay thing that you need the characters to be relatable in some way. Kubrick's style is very objective, and detached. It's why The Shining sucked, because it doesn't work for a horror movie. It sure as shit works for a space movie. It sounds like you got filtered hard, and that you should watch more mindless movies where you can relate to the characters more, perhaps with quips and such.
I actually really enjoy The Shining, because you can pick up into he extreme tension and cabin fever in the movie nearly the whole way through. And no, I don't need the characters to be relatable, I just need them to express emotion, otherwise I might as well be watching robots
>but the characters were flat and near-emotionless
absolutely true but it fits in very well with the theme which is that the humans are acting like robots and the robot is acting like a human
Persona, I really, really don't get it. Bergman is great, he's made so many great and interesting films, why do people like Persona so much? Did it go over my head? It felt like the movie was trying to get at something about sexuality but what that was was never clear, it just kind of meandered about.
Bergman is an overrated hack who mostly made mediocre melodramas. Persona is one of his better films though. Seventh Seal is the most overrated film of all time.
Apocalypse Now. It's a series of melodramatic non-sensical Vietnam War vignettes that have no basis in reality which completely falls apart when Willard finally meets Kurtz, who is poorly written and acted by an obese and barely comprehensible Marlon Brandon that has no gravitas or presence. Worst of all it is a movie about morals which totally lacks any moralistic narrative or deeper meaning beyond HEY GUIZ NAM WAS WEIRD AND SILLY, unlike the story it was based off which was an exploration of the horrors of Africa, colonization, and Europe digging itself into it's own grave via white man's burden.
It's not a boring movie until act 3, but it's not this great exploration of anything that it's always hyped up as, least of all Vietnam.
I haven't seen it in so long that i'll probably get the minutiae wrong but they set up this whole interesting mystery where james stewart befriends this dead girl's sister and starts to see her as the same person and then at the end they remove all the mystery and nice ambiguity that made the movie interesting by revealing the living sister was just tricking him and was part of this stupid scheme to have her dead sister thrown of a roof for the insurance money.
Its easy to watch old films with newer eyes, or a better way to say it is; its hard to watch old films within their context and cultural zeitgeist. with a big Hollywood budget they probaly weren't allowed to go full dream mode, and that wouldn't have occured to the writers in 1958.
The touches of surreality here and there in Hitchwiener are so impactful and in a way shocking. Like the dog sitting in front of the fireplace in Rebecca, that was such a good shot and editing. Probably works with Hitchock because his shots of people talking are so standard that when he does something different its like whoah. Someone said Hitchwiener would never doa shot from inside a fridge as someone opens it like say in Breaking Bad, because that wouldn't be from the perspective of someone nearby watching.
That's very true and i'd add that the critics and viewers at the time probably wouldn't have been that into a more ambiguous movie anyway.
I understand why it is the way it is but i don't have to like it.
I remember reading about production of The Third Man and how censors were in a huff about the mercy-kill of Harry Lime and Graham Greene wanted a romantic ending but the director stuck to his guns and i think it's a timeless classic because of it.
mulholland drive FRICKING SUCKED!
and i am sick of subhuman snobs pretending otherwise. i know everything i need to know about a person if they say they like mulholland drive or eraserhead.
No it’s mostly different. Here’s the critic’s list from the 2012 Sight & Sound poll:
1. Vertigo (1958)
2. Citizen Kane (1941)
3. Tokyo Story (1953)
4. The Rules of the Game (1939)
5. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927)
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
7. The Searchers (1956)
8. Man with a Movie Camera (1929)
9. The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
10. 8½ (1963)
The next poll should be sometime this year. I predict that In the Mood for Love and Mulholland Drive will crack the top 20 for critics and maybe even higher for the director’s list.
Space odyssey is the logh of gaming, really boring but pseuds pretend to like it because of muh philosophical bullshit due to how much it’s gatekept and inaeccessible to normalgays
I don't understand how you can watch 2001 and not like it. I didn't really care much about the philosophical themes, which were only that, themes. The technical perfection of it blows you away, I feel like you must have went in with a mindset of not wanting to like it, or watched it on too small a screen. The flow of the shots with the music and perfect composition gives me goosebumps.
Yeah, it was a really beautiful movie, but the characters were flat and near-emotionless
Greatest movie of all time? Not even top twenty imo
For me its top ten. I think it's a really gay thing that you need the characters to be relatable in some way. Kubrick's style is very objective, and detached. It's why The Shining sucked, because it doesn't work for a horror movie. It sure as shit works for a space movie. It sounds like you got filtered hard, and that you should watch more mindless movies where you can relate to the characters more, perhaps with quips and such.
I actually really enjoy The Shining, because you can pick up into he extreme tension and cabin fever in the movie nearly the whole way through. And no, I don't need the characters to be relatable, I just need them to express emotion, otherwise I might as well be watching robots
>but the characters were flat and near-emotionless
ok woman
>but the characters were flat and near-emotionless
absolutely true but it fits in very well with the theme which is that the humans are acting like robots and the robot is acting like a human
True it is basically a visual symphony
>"film buffs"
Like Mauler, RLM, and YMS? Kek
2001
Without a question or doubt
Seven Samurai
Persona, I really, really don't get it. Bergman is great, he's made so many great and interesting films, why do people like Persona so much? Did it go over my head? It felt like the movie was trying to get at something about sexuality but what that was was never clear, it just kind of meandered about.
Bergman is an overrated hack who mostly made mediocre melodramas. Persona is one of his better films though. Seventh Seal is the most overrated film of all time.
do you know what the word persona means? protip its not based on the video game
None of you fricking homosexuals like space odyssey
I do.
Mulholland Drive is shit.
Literally most rewatchable film ever, eat shit pseud homosexual
Lynch's most overrated
In the Mood for Love
in the mood for love
then persona
Rear Window is significantly better than Vertigo.
All hitchwiener films besides psycho suck, and that film only works if you live in a cave and haven’t been spoiled already
Suspicion is great, rare to see a degenerate Cary Grant.
I live in a cave and haven't been spoiled with anything yet. I'll go watch it now despite never intending to, thanks
You'll like it.
Watch The Trial as well, Anthony Perkins was a great actor.
Rebecca is his best and it's not even close.
ok moron. looking forward to all these replies driving you to spam hitchock films suck
Why do you say that, friend?
I've liked every other Hitchwiener movie I've seen better than Vertigo.
2001=Taxi Driver>Apocalypse Now>Mullholland Drive>Seven Samurai>Vertigo>In The Mood For Love>Citizen Kane=The Godather>Persona
Fight me
Apocalypse Now. It's a series of melodramatic non-sensical Vietnam War vignettes that have no basis in reality which completely falls apart when Willard finally meets Kurtz, who is poorly written and acted by an obese and barely comprehensible Marlon Brandon that has no gravitas or presence. Worst of all it is a movie about morals which totally lacks any moralistic narrative or deeper meaning beyond HEY GUIZ NAM WAS WEIRD AND SILLY, unlike the story it was based off which was an exploration of the horrors of Africa, colonization, and Europe digging itself into it's own grave via white man's burden.
It's not a boring movie until act 3, but it's not this great exploration of anything that it's always hyped up as, least of all Vietnam.
Orson wanted to make this instead of Kane but RKO said no.
wow nice copy paste, did you get it from gayhomosexuals .com?
Vertigo. They made us watch that old crap in film school. Boring and poorly written nonsense.
what qualifies you as a "film buff"
I'm interested as well, I like that site.
How do I get a ballot?
I've probably watched 10,000 movies.
probably enjoying every film on that list
Probably Persona but I like all the movies.
The Third Man is not top ten?
i hate tv and film
Apocalypse now
Vertigo, great movie with a dogshit ending which should more than keep it out of the top ten.
Dropped this film 20 minutes in spoil me on it & why the ending sucks
its a man dressed in womans clothing. what a silly idea
I haven't seen it in so long that i'll probably get the minutiae wrong but they set up this whole interesting mystery where james stewart befriends this dead girl's sister and starts to see her as the same person and then at the end they remove all the mystery and nice ambiguity that made the movie interesting by revealing the living sister was just tricking him and was part of this stupid scheme to have her dead sister thrown of a roof for the insurance money.
Its easy to watch old films with newer eyes, or a better way to say it is; its hard to watch old films within their context and cultural zeitgeist. with a big Hollywood budget they probaly weren't allowed to go full dream mode, and that wouldn't have occured to the writers in 1958.
The touches of surreality here and there in Hitchwiener are so impactful and in a way shocking. Like the dog sitting in front of the fireplace in Rebecca, that was such a good shot and editing. Probably works with Hitchock because his shots of people talking are so standard that when he does something different its like whoah. Someone said Hitchwiener would never doa shot from inside a fridge as someone opens it like say in Breaking Bad, because that wouldn't be from the perspective of someone nearby watching.
That's very true and i'd add that the critics and viewers at the time probably wouldn't have been that into a more ambiguous movie anyway.
I understand why it is the way it is but i don't have to like it.
I remember reading about production of The Third Man and how censors were in a huff about the mercy-kill of Harry Lime and Graham Greene wanted a romantic ending but the director stuck to his guns and i think it's a timeless classic because of it.
Mulholland drive & persona are the only films here that aren’t boring. Any film that doesn’t star a hot woman is shit
bump
everyone knows you are joking. but do you really want to keep on being a complete joke?
Vertigo, by far.
>Mulholland drive is higher than apocalypse now and The Godfather.
You got to be fricking kidding me.
It should be higher too, but dogshit like 2001 is at the top. Rashomon not being top 5 invalidates it though
In the Mood for Love
still a good movie but not on the level as the rest
Godfather and Taxi Driver
Surprised there's 2 films from the 2000s
Mulholland drive and in the mood for love are the new godfather and citizen kane. All lists will have them now at the top
mulholland drive FRICKING SUCKED!
and i am sick of subhuman snobs pretending otherwise. i know everything i need to know about a person if they say they like mulholland drive or eraserhead.
I just like Naomi Watts
>No Das Boot
>no Don’t Look Now
Boring list. It's pretty much the same as critics lists.
No it’s mostly different. Here’s the critic’s list from the 2012 Sight & Sound poll:
1. Vertigo (1958)
2. Citizen Kane (1941)
3. Tokyo Story (1953)
4. The Rules of the Game (1939)
5. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927)
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
7. The Searchers (1956)
8. Man with a Movie Camera (1929)
9. The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
10. 8½ (1963)
The next poll should be sometime this year. I predict that In the Mood for Love and Mulholland Drive will crack the top 20 for critics and maybe even higher for the director’s list.
>no terminator 2
disregarded
Please be bait
Probably Citizen Kane or Apocalypse Now.