Which Gundam, from any series, could stand a chance against Aerial?
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Which Gundam, from any series, could stand a chance against Aerial?
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Everyone, because they don't use permet.
This.
Exia would wreck Aerial because it has no protection against physical weapons.
>no protection agains physical weapons
are you moronic? The Gundbits can be used as shields
Yes, because the fangs worked out for Reborns
FPBP, the fact that a limited production grunt suit like the pente and less advanced custom suits like the Darilbalde and Michaelis could heavily damage the Aerial means most main gundams could stand a chance or have an outright advantage against it. The only thing the Aerial could bring to the table as an advantage is its bits and its not-bit mobile suits.
They can't be controlled, so that just means anyone that can handle being ganged up on by a army of unmanned Gundams and the big Gundam itself
If only there was a Gundam that we knew for certain was exceptionally skilled at fighting one very powerful enemy Gundam and an army of mobile dolls under its command.
Yeah Wing Zero is a no brainer. He doesn't even have to do anything, pretty sure its beam rifle can just delete Quiet Zero from afar.
Minovsky particles would frick up Permet so basically any UC gundam
Yeah Minovky interference will turn Eri GAY
Minovsky does not factor into any gundam crossover. You may as well argue why Nu Gundam can't use funnels in earth's atmosphere
>Minovsky does not factor into any gundam crossover.
Permet wouldn't factor into any Gundam crossover game either. Eri wouldn't be able to override Nu Gundam much less Unicorn.
Permet is some sort of wifi shit. Minovsky has a physical presence.
BAAAKUNETSU!
GODDO!!
FINGAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!
Honestly any of them that are piloted by people who know how to deal with bits.
ZZ Gundam would totally pwn that junk
Good thing then Suletta will get one.
Love how they just have fricking tons of spare Gundams lying about literally everywhere despite a universe-wide ban on threat of death
Shit's worse than Wing lmao
We needed an asspull gundam for Suletta to pilot in the last 4 episodes but couldn't hint at it's existence even though it's been sitting there this entire time
Prease understandu
The ban is preciesly why they developed a bunch of them in secret. Cuz having a weapon THAT powerful despite needing to feed them pilots is too good to pass up and have it up your sleeve when shit happens.
>everywhere
pretty much all the gundams in this show are from the same corporation, just one is a leftover that made it to Mercury while the others are literally made with or maintained by Vanadis remnants
>he thinks the evil corporations that are constantly trying to backstab each other to reach the tip wouldn't make their own overpowered machines
how fricking naive
Ochs earth was developing them in secret but yeah, the prologue falls super short when everyone and their mothers pilots Gundams afterwards anyway.
But the point of the prologue isn't that Gundams are gone, since we knew since the very start they clearly weren't. The idea is that the real GUND Ideal is forgotten with the destruction of that institute, All it is now is people just using the Gundams for their own greed rather than bettering humanity
An easier and shorter list would be to make a list of which Gundams can't.
Honestly? The list would be long either way, there's a ton of fricking Gundams in this franchise regardless, both weak and strong.
The only Gundams which could theoretically have Permet are teh Turn A family and the G-self family, but trying to take those over probably gets you brainfried by their firewall
Ex-S
Nu
anything from IBO
all would fold Aerial
>Minovsky Particles
>IBO beam resistant shenanigans
Aerial Isn't actually that imposing in the grand schema of the Gundam franchise.
Unicorn would eat it for breakfast
What would happen if the Unicorn reversed time on the Aerial?
Eri's biometric data gets removed from Aerial permanently killing her and leaving the suit an empty husk
We'd get a better show
The one that can frick up all technology from here to Jupiter.
In terms of pure destructive power it goes from Turn A, Devil, Double X, X, Wing Zero then GP-02?
Considering none of them can do anything to Photon Torpedoes except wait out the photon battery? MLB would lose to PT just because nanomachines can't defeat photons.
Literally the most busted weapon made in the franchise that isn't a straight up EXVS side manga black hole gun.
>Black Hole Gun
So they just made their own Huckenbein heh.
The Huckebein would smear it on the walls after one single blast.
Butterfly would trigger the photon torpedos before they hit the turn A, and there's a pretty reasonable assumption that the Turn A, which can bend light, could reflect the torpedos.
Ultimately wouldn't matter because Bellri and Loran would go out for snacks and soda together.
>bend light
Anon, refraction due to spinning beam sabers doesn't mean shit when all that would happen is the photon torpedoes just eat the beams. Outside of Seed's fricked up shit with Fukuda and Morosawa just throwing every Star Trek weapon name they could into the series, G-Reco is legitimately the first time an animated Gundam series entered true matter destruction territory.
Beam weapons are just plasma from hyper accelerated mega particles. They aren't actually lasers.
>can kill your civilization and still do laundry
Someone said this before in another thread about thspecific image, but I think it really funny that the Turn A's core fighter kinda looks like its raising a tent in this picture
>raising a tent in this picture
what?
It's called a wienerpit for a reason
>i really really really like laundry
I can't tell who's more moronic, OP for asking that question, or anons listing their favourite gendums in response.
Also, pretty sure Dynames could out-range Aerial by a gazillion miles.
CALIBARN
20 YEAR OLD RELIC
STILL SOMEHOW BEATS AERIAL REBUILD
probably because Eri takes a dive but still
I mean, Aerial is just a Lfrith frame they switched to a different outer armor
>which super hero from any series could stand a chance against kryptonite?
>uhh I think Iron man has a very good chance if he uses his super gazillion powerful sniper laser!
this is what you guys sound like right now
I'm not sure why people think Minovsky would mess with Permit but... that's probably not likely.
It's even less likely because the only mobile units capable of releasing Minovsky particles at combat density are Victory era units. It's only battleships that can do so prior to Victory, and there's no mention of it happening in anything pre-Victory. Which does mention it happening as a new tactic several times. At least nothing animated anyway. I'm not familiar enough with all the various games or manga to comment on them. I do know that an early Gundam manga about Dr. Minovsky had a Zaku with huge generators twice the size of the unit strapped to it just to give it the capacity to spread Minovsky particles though i.e. that it wasn't generally seen as possible for a regular suit to do it even in manga early on in the franchise.
Crossover games usually give Minovsky particles and GN particles the same attributes but tie them to support attacks or ships. It usually just does attribute jamming so it makes it harder to hit things, decreases sight lines, etc.
Crossover games also tend to treat Nanolaminate as the beam version of Phase Shift meaning if you punch it hard enough it'll either break, or if they don't give it a break value it just does a % resist decrease.
Victory and G-Reco suits also usually lose their special attributes for some reason unless it's a cutscene. Like G-Self rarely gets access to photon shields and the Wings of Light on V2 doesn't radiate minovsky. It's probably more of a balance issue though since suits like Xi and Penelope don't get super flight movement in most games either just speed buffs.
Considering Unicorn almost never gets its funnel stealing or time shit in games, chances are Aerial won't get anything Permet related either.
However, rounding back to MPs and GN stuff, they universally affect anything in games that they're allowed to be a mechanic in. Permet so far has worked more like AV and the Zero system so they'll just use Permet as stat boosts for pilots.
Reminder Barbatos would destroy Nu Gundam in an earth battle because a slight gust of wind would cause Nu to fall over
Not if Nu had its "third leg" funnel
>lifts cannon into firing mode
>amuro: Nu Gundam is not ju- is is that an errant gust of wind?! SAVE ME KAYRA AIIIIEEEE
Same shit different color
The barbatos would destroy the Nu in any situation without psycoframe.
??? Dude, other IBO gundam vastly outclass Barbatos in any form, it isn't a particularly strong ms. Nu is stupidly strong in UC compared to many ms even after it was lost. Barbatos might be a bit more mobile than Nu, but what the frick is the point of that when Nu kicks the shit out of it.
>ditch funnels and beam weapons
>suddenly the suit becomes lighter more agile
>punch into submission
>put Barbie in a cobra twist
>stretch until the spindly waist breaks.
?
Not only has Aerial shown low durability. The barbatos is already fast enough that humans can't see its movements. The Aerial and rebuild have very few good feats.
moron
Aerial would literally shatter its arms trying to hit the Barbatos
bro
was matching Barbs with Nu why are you continuing your argument with Aerial?
Any post implying Nu Gundam with no weapons outmuscles Barbatos in melee is not a serious post.
as opposed to
>a slight gust of wind would cause Nu to fall over
?
It's canon. Play battle alliance
Dude, barbatos breaks every time Mika did anything unarmed, the only reason barbatos is good in a melee is because IBO tech is papermache, and the mechanical advantage of a 60 foot tall stick with a frickhuge bladed weight at the end is a good weapon against said papermache.
>Barbatos breaks its own arms constantly
Anon, you got that backwards. Barbatos would probably wreck Aerial though assuming the beams the bits put out don't deal much damage.
Nu's funnels wouldn't work in Atmosphere anyways so it wouldn't be equipped
Funnels work just fine on Earth as shown in ZZ and X. Only fricking DRAGOONS from SNEED have that moronic limitation.
Unicorn shows the kyshatriya struggling to use its funnels under the colony's gravity.
The Nu's funnels are much larger than those and not nearly as aerodynamic, they might be the biggest funnels on record for the UC.
So I don't think they'd work in atmospheric conditions.
>struggling
>Marida can position the bits so they never hit the colony walls accidentally
Hmmm
The Fin Funnels have their own powerplants though.
Funnels dont work under gravity. Youre thinking of psycho 2 gundams helicopter funnels.
>Youre thinking of psycho 2 gundams helicopter funnels.
No he isn't. Those don't even have rotor blades, only the Shamblo's reflector bits do.
So how are Suletta, Chuchu El5n and Guel magically going to be able to fight against a weapon that literally generates a "NO FUN ALLOWED" field around it? Let me guess, this super badass Calibarn is just magically able to ignore the cutting edge Quiet Zero despite sitting in shed for two decades?
It's 90% likely that Eri is going to let Suletta win once she sees her literally killing herself with data storms trying to stop them. Remember she loves Suletta and wants to save her, so I can see her letting her body be destroyed if it means Suletta gets to live.
>le no limiter
Yep, stupid green SORE DEMO U N D E R S T A N D I N G lights soon in WFM
Its pretty easy. The only one who can fight Aerial is Suletta by virtue of piloting a gundam.
Remember Sophie's last moments where she still had control of her gundam despite being in Aerial's hijacking field? I wager that is because she is plugged into her gundam's systems with her permet score raised up and it is impossible to hijack a gundam when it is essentially a part of the pilot's body.
Suletta will simply bypass the entire nofun field by going to high permet scores.
Wouldn’t that kill her?
Egg odds are 50/50 that she'll shrug it off with plot armor or maybe get off relatively easy like Kamille
Either she's immune or Eri will save her, possibly sacrificing herself to do so.
The only way I can see her surviving is if Eri being synchronized to the datastorm has the side-effect of Suletta being synchronized to the datatorm by virtue of being her clone.
Or she just tries to last as long as she can and eventually Eri gives up the fight since she doesn't want Suletta to die.
You mean actual god himself
If Suletta ends the show I'm a wheelchair I'm going to laugh so hard.
This is beat for beat the Izetta ending
Unicorn gundam.
Or the Phenex:
Only a Ghost in a Machine can defeat another.
anata wa soko ni imasu ka
G-Saviour
My homie
It'd lose to most Newtype shit too because Eri is just like a fancy computer that can hijack other computers, but actual ghost magic made from magic space rocks tops that
>hijack permet
>nobody else has permet so she can't hijack anyone
ftfy
Oh lmao you're right
Aerial is even more shit than we though because it's main gimmick doesn't even affect other Gundams
suletta also has basically no feats as a pilot. that may change next episode though
So she's the perfect pilot for the 00 Qant?
Why be so harsh?
Irony is Setsuna actually piloted a Flag in the movie, so Suletta can't even say she's perfect for Qant.
The V2 and anything from late UC.
Also just for fun and although not a gundam, I think even an Aura Battler can wreck it because they don't use computers, they're fast as frick, conventional weaponry can't easily damage them (beams might be able to though) and Aura power goes beyond any newtype magic frickery from UC.
DEEZ HANDS BURN WITH AN AWESOME POWAH
Could a Titan Fleet defeat Quiet Zero?
You have veterans like Yazan and Kacricon.
Almsot certainly, they handled two gundams together on multiple clashes
They would but they would take heavy losses among the grunts. The Gryps laser might be needed if the Quiet Zero has a particulary strong barrier.
Literally all of them. Aerial does nothing unique.
Rather it's Unicorn Main gimmick but it only works in it's own universe because no one else uses Permet.
Without the ability to hijack other MS or their bits using Permet, Aerial is just Gundam X with G-bits tier. Strong but certainly not the strongest even with her super fortress add on.
G3
Why not just throw a few megatons at the problem and let god sort it out?
the rob liefield of gundams
Permet hijacking would frick up any guidance, dumb bombs would be intercepted by the Gumvoldas
no, override only works on systems that use permet links as a basis. the only reason it's a problem is because all Ad Stella technology is Permet based.
>he says that even though minovsky particles already fricked over guided and remote weaponry
>he says that even though GP02 fires nuclear energy, not bombs.
>dumb bomb
02's nuclear bazooka sets off the nuke in the the weapon's chamber and fires it out as a concentrated beam. Technically making it not a nuclear weapon according to the treaties
That's not how the GP02's bazooka works anon
As long as the nuke's trigger doesn't use permet and Aerial itself can't intercept or escape the nuke then it'd probably work
Looks like it's a pretty classic H-Bomb although I think Rebellion implied that they has an I-Field encasement to keep containment slightly longer once it went off to ensure more of the fuel reacted before it was blown apart the fireball.
Still pretty much the same basic principals that we see in modern day nukes just refined and boosted
Zeta
Ex-S
ZZ
Nu/Hi-Nu
F91
Crossbones
V2
Shining/god
Wing/Zero
X/DX
Turn A
Freedom
00/Qan[T]
Unicorn
G-Reco
Aerial is bottom-tier AI jank and it's only impressive in its timeline because everything else is outdated
Jank is a great description of how aerial is handled. It's a low combat output MS that can use late UC funnel hax in a one year war environment.
I'd make the argument that this fat ass bastard could do it since 10000 km shots are considered in range and well said shots are 3 second travel time to hit and well you can just fire a bunch of shots before the BFG needs to cool down unless you're wanting to go for the 11th shot rapid and melt the gun if not have it blow up.
Fatass got the biggest stick
Prospero's sorcery was so powerful that with the help of the Air Spirit Ariel conjures a Tempest that trapped everyone in an island.
Prospero had command of all the spirits and even brought back the dead.
This Quiet Zero to a tee besides the dead rising
homie quiet zero exists TO raise the dead (Eri), that's just a 1:1 thing.
Predict OP changes next week
Quiet Zero more visible. Calibarn and Schwarzette
Quiet Zero is all the way in the middle of damn space. The Satelitte Cannon wouldn't work.
DX could charge ahead of time, then fire 3 times once it gets close enough. Not sure if the regular X could do it, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Apply maximum output Twin Buster Rifle. Utilise Zero System to pursue the path to victory.
What does Quiet Zero actually do when it goes to Permet Score 8?
Are we really going to have another singularity, instrumentality, Ragnarok connection, whatever etc.? This shtick has been so played out already
Prospero's sorcery is sufficiently powerful to control Ariel and other spirits, as well as to alter weather and even raise the dead: "Graves at my command have waked their sleepers, oped, and let 'em forth, by my so potent Art." - Act V, scene 1.
GUN-DAMN? KID YOU DONT KNOW JACK FROM SHIT IF YOU THINK YOU NEED SOME FANCY BULLSHIT MOBILE SUIT TO KICK THAT CAN OUT TO THE KERB! LISTEN HEER SONNY, BACK WHEN I RETIRED FROM THE SERVICE THAT LIMP DICK CHAR 'YAR-HAR SPACE PIRATE' AZNABELL WAS TRYING TO DO THE SPACE HITLER FROM SPACE THING... AGAIN. HIS SUIT HAD THE SAME SHIT THAT homosexual SUIT HAS.. "GUNd BITS" ARE JUST FANCY FUNNELS... THE RED BARON USED EM ON HIS SAZABI, HIS GAY LOVER IN OUR FORCED HAD EM TOO. HE EVEN KIDNAPPED SOME DUMBASS HIPPY GIRL TO USE EM AS WELL. HAD TO USE MAGIC TO MAKE EM FIRE... KILLED HUNDREDS OF OUR BUDDIES. LONG STORY SHORT, THEY ALL DIED. YOUR GUND BITS AINT WORTH SH1T IN A KNOCK DOWN, DRAG OUT FIGHT!! GIMME MY OUT JIM OR QUELL, I'LL KICK THIS CARPET MUCHER IN FASTER THAN A HIZAK COOKS ENTERING THE ATMOSPHERE!!
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CORPORAL RICHARD "BUD" NEILSON
FEDERATION NAVY 0079-0083
TITANS OFFICER 0083-0087
SPACE POST OFFICE 80-0093
"SCREW THE ZEEKS, I LIKE EARTH!"
"Zeon is exhausted!" -General Johann Abraham Revil
DECEMBER 30, 0079 NEVER FORGET
Hey Richard why were you piloting a GM in UC0093, shouldn't you have been on a Jegan instead?
Jegans don't get handed out to everyone until UC0105. Only those Londo Bell guys get Jegans in UC0093. Standard space forces were using GMIIIs.
Even in 0096 the Earth Forces were fielding mostly Gryps era suits while space forces were just getting around to giving everyone Jegans.
Anon anyone who was fighting on the Second Neo Zeon war and had info on what transpired would probably have been inside a Jegan.
Those were Londo Bell. The GMIIIs that show up at the end of the movie are from the general space forces.
NAH I NEVER TRIED ONE OF EM AFTER 87... WENT BACK TO THE POST DELIVERING MAIL IN AN OL ORIGINAL JIM! THEY JUST DONT MAKE LIKE THEY USED TO!!!
>FASTER THAN A HIZAK COOKS ENTERING THE ATMOSPHERE
fricking lost my shit
Ruthless
Legendary post anon.
American """humor"""
>I'LL KICK THIS CARPET MUCHER IN FASTER THAN A HIZAK COOKS ENTERING THE ATMOSPHERE!!
Holy frick my sides
Turn A
Maybe Unicorn
Anyway it's going to get its shit pushed in by this abomination. Shakespeare already spoiled it.
But what if prospers pulls out the secret 42 year old gundam that's even more powerful that she had hidden under a floorboard
What if it’s a mobile armor?
Power level gay here, anything that's not early UC or Post Disaster could beat Arrialnin a one on one fight.
So Quiet Zero is just Dome's G-bits? Kinda lame.
Is it just me, or is WFM going to end up like Gundam X?
How insulting,
Gundam X has a way better romance.
X actually managed to do pretty well despite rushing its second half
>muh barbatos
CANONICALLY KNEELS to Strike Freedom
COPE
I don't understand how someone can think Barbatos is even top 50 mobile suits. Is it decent to good in a melee and fast? Yeah, but it lacks in almost every other aspect. Bael even with its gross lack of equipment would fricking wreck it in any fight with equal footing. IBO had shit like Marchosias running around, Barbatos isn't special.
They conflate its worth with Mikazuki's talent as an ace pilot.
Can't really say Mika is ace pilot as he much more closer to Mobile Fighter like Domon, Especially with Lupus Rex.
Also despite Barbatos is literally hundred years piece of junk compared to Bael and Marchosias, it's still has monstruous output compared like said Aerial.
Kinda wondered how fare Gund system against heavy physical damage
Because the people who love it that much have only seen IBO and nothing else and think Nanolaminate armor makes them completely invincible to every other Gundam
Strike Freedom canonically loses to Dijeh by those same rules. You never mention that though, oddly.
Yeah but the Dijeh rules
Literally almost every single one of them. The Aerial's hacking abilities only work on machines with Permet based technology. Without that, it's basically your standard MS with funnels. The pilots themselves are also fairly shitty, Suletta has no real skill and Prospera isn't that much better since Suletta is around her level.
Reminder that G-self would destroy your favorite gundam
"Imma fire a warning shot."
Photon torpedo is more of an mine deployment, while the MLB is a acid gas spread across the solar system. One is quick and horrifying slaughter, the other is undoing man kind's progress in a very large radius.
>while the MLB is a acid gas spread across the solar system
never happened anywhere. Literally just invented by the turnAtards on this very board
Is this from the movies? I don't remember this scene.
Yeah
better yet, dialogue suggest the projectiles are either invisible or incredibly hard to spot for pilots.
It's roadside picnic missile
>powerlevel thread
Remember when the musou devs said Emma would absolutely MOG Master Asia in a fight?
Any character can beat anyone if the writer needs it to happen
Turn A wouldn't even have to move and Aerial would just slowly be disassembled.
Calibarn will hijack 5 of the 11 of Aerial's Gund Bits just like the ED
Any pilot with experience in dealing with funnel-type weaponry can deal with the Aerial provided they're not using a suit utilizing permet. I'm kinda curious if minovsky particles can interfere with the permet data network as well, but nano-laminate armor does diminish the Aerial's beam weapons effectiveness by a sizeable margin.
But how good is it at mobile suit martial arts?
Aerial is incredibly weak only being strong in universe because people die while piloting gundams.
How much you wanna bet that one storage facility in Quinharbor was the only one?
I dunno, that facility only had pre production types, anything they built off of that frame is probably elsewhere like the Gundvolva
Every Gundam