Which of the New Champions/Secret Sidekicks should become canon characters?

Which of the New Champions/Secret Sidekicks should become canon characters? If Gwenpoole could go from varient cover to actual character, I don't see why these ones can't.

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                Teen Hulk here isn't actually new. He was a gag character in some old Marvel guidebook forever ago. I guess blonde!Hulk is a pretty easy to come up with.

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                I'd like to imagine this is Black Cat's dad coming out of retirement for One Last Job, like all good heist movies.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Felicia gets a shota sidekick
                >The cat & The Kitten

                Has Marvel been sneaking around Cinemaphile lately?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >65 year old grandma
                >shota
                Huh?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes please bring Vin back. I want him back.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why does Capt's sidekick have Blue Beetle wings?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                These are the only ones that actually look good and kinda creative. The rest range from "meh" to "crap".

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This one kind of looks like America Chavez if she had a proper cape costume

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                does the signature say 21 on it? that would suggest that this is a reused design rather than something new

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Sorcerer Supreme’s Apprentice

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's fricked up that Marvel killed Kamala off then immediately pushed this White boy as Carol's "true" sidekick.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                What If he's Kamala's new sidekick

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Marvel is finally healing.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's fricked up that Marvel killed Kamala off then immediately pushed this White boy as Carol's "true" sidekick.

                Kamala was never really carol sidekick though she was her own solo character,
                Outside of Golden Age characters like Bucky or Toro Marvel has shied away from having it heros's have sidekicks, due to Stan lee's historical hatred of them

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Give me a story about a future version of the F4 where Johnny is now the leader and this Kid-Thing is kind of an butthole the same way Johnny was when he was a kid.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is the only one I'd be super interested in exploring. Maybe she's got a whole different type of spirit compared to the others, and that's why she's blue? There are endless possibilities here.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ghost Skater, The Spirit of Chaod

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Miku Ghost Rider?

              • 11 months ago
                Ree

                It'll been funny if she had heelees from sketchers

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                Looms like something you'd see in jet set radio or air gear but I love both of them so it's fine by me

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I remember, the anon who did the COMPLETE CHRIS PRIEST marathon. Had some of these early in his career.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He was a gag character in some old Marvel guidebook forever ago.
                Post it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Teen Hulk

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                Anonymous

                This is just Jinx I prefer the Thrud from GoW Ragnarok, who took a lot of her genes from her mom. And her mom is a 10/10

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I really like the designs for most of these, but I don't feel like the characters need to exist. A young Moon Knight doesn't make sense. Why would we need another Storm? That being said, I'd be happy to see most of these as an AU or something.

                These are the most interesting to me. I want to read books about these.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                this one looks. more like Mach-1 sidekick than Iron Mans

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                Most seem to dislike this one, but I at least like that he uses a seemingly low-tech armor.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's just kinda lazy I guess since it's the original armour with some wings strapped to the back compared to some of the designs it's fine

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Should this be a younger 616 version of the girl Magneto from MC2?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                her power set seems different than just magnetism, seems more technopathy or hard light constructs than traditional magnetism control which the MC2 character had.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              This one might have the biggest chance to be made canon, mostly because of the Barbie memes around her

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Barbie memes? Post some.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Great design.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              IMO, I feel

              should become canon characters, especially if they go and bring Vin Vision back since his death was basically pretty fricked, plus it would help Vision and Viv get some sort of emotional healing they clearly deserve.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              she is the best of the bunch

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Has the artist have this character concept a name like they did for the Ghost Rider sidekick?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              This two seem to be the odds on favorites

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you told me this was just Miles with longer hair, I'd believe you. People gave him shit for spray painting Peter's spare suit, but at least that's something.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            wow it's true that the only thing Miles can do is copying Peter, even his female version uses the same design difference Mattie used when she donned the true Spider-Man costume.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            not sure if there were particular mandates artists had to follow for these, but pretty disappointed to see Pichelli churn out something so forgettable after being attached to Miles as an artist for so long.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              They were given prompts, but we don't know what they all were. The Ghost Rider and Magneto artists have given their prompts:
              Ghost Rider, Roller Derby, Girl, Cute
              Magneto, Barbie, Hot Pink

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            this isn't even a sidekick design this just looks like a genderbent Miles
            and

            is just a rehash of Laura and Gabby.

            Teen Hulk here isn't actually new. He was a gag character in some old Marvel guidebook forever ago. I guess blonde!Hulk is a pretty easy to come up with.

            is also stupid because there's already two "teen Hulk" characters.

            is also pointless because there's like two kid Visions already. but I feel like I could come up with some good concepts for the others.

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              continuing:
              I'm neutral on Moon Squire, Black Kitten, Marvel Kid, and Star Lad, and while I guess

              could be like, an apprentice for Dr. Strange it's just kinda unnecessary since Strange Academy is a thing.
              I think my personal favorite concept-wise is

              , she seems to be a magic user while Black Panther is primarily a tech hero more than anything so she seems the least redundant and most distinctive if that makes sense.

              I also really love

              and I think I know exactly where she'd fit in. There's a "Venomverse" comic involving a symbiote-wielding magical girl, and I think this Ghost Rider magical girl would fit right in with her. An entire universe of magical girl versions of Marvel heroes is something I'd be totally down to read.

              I like that Iron Boy's suit is based on Iron Man's first suit, it makes him feel more distinctive from Ironheart and Iron Lad.

              I like her design a lot. I think her wings are because she's meant to be a sidekick to Sam rather than Steve?? If so, that's an interesting choice.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                That girl is dressed and has powers as a younger version of Shuri in current comics So still within Black Panther lore.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh, got it. black panther's one of the heroes I don't really follow(along with Moon Knight).

              • 11 months ago
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                Moon Knight already had a sidekick in 90s called Midnight, who ended up becoming a cyborg and going evil

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Marvel Kid
                if he had a name it would probably be Marvel Boy since that been a name Marvel has used since the 50s and neither Robert(the original who goes by the Uranian) or Noh-var(the Grant Morrison version) really use the name any more

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I think her wings are because she's meant to be a sidekick to Sam rather than Steve?? If so, that's an interesting choice.
                that makes some sense considering his previous two sidekick's got to become a king in a diffrent dimension and lost their powers to cure his vampirism so he does need one

          • 11 months ago
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            Ngl Miles would've been way cooler with dreads/braids

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              He wouldn’t. He’d still be a bigger Peter clone than Ben.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Marvel desperately wants a baby yoda to push.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            they literally have comics with Baby Yoda in it.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              That makes Star Wars money, not marvel money.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Noseless wolverine but a girl? That's it? Kinda lazy

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          Anonymous

          Because Gwenpool was forced as frick, they already decided she'd be a hit before they ever released her I bet.

          Anon, Miles-Girl is just Miles with poorly drawn braids.

          I actually kinda like Ghost Roller but Ghost Riders are easy since I'm always won over by whatever dumb ride gimmick they come up with.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >they already decided she'd be a hit before they ever released her I bet.
            It only feels that way because no one remembers the other two dozen Gwen variants they did at the same time.

            • 11 months ago
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              or the other two dozen gwen they did years later

          • 11 months ago
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            >I actually kinda like Ghost Roller but Ghost Riders are easy since I'm always won over by whatever dumb ride gimmick they come up with.

            I know it probably seems like a moronic take but I think the focus on the ride gimmick is what's holding Ghost Rider back. It's hard to actually be creative with the character because no matter what the only common elements with it are a flaming skull and a vehicle with flaming wheels or a mount with flaming feet.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Like as a whole or just the fake sidekick girl?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                As a whole, sidekick girl is neat.

                I dunno maybe I'm overanalyzing why Ghost Rider never seems to stick to anything but jobbing but if the character concept boils down to "Vegeance, Flaming Skull, Flaming Vehicle" and all of the people who become the Ghost Rider are all bitter and jaded then there's a foundational problem with the character.

              • 11 months ago
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                I think the flame gimmick is pretty tangential to the personality problems which are inherent to the origin/tone since the whole point is being Ghost Rider is a curse. It's not supposed to be fun so being jaded and bitter goes with that. The aesthetics themselves have little effect on that.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                could always be a different type of spirt instead of the Spirt of Vengeance maybe, the Ed Brisson run kinda suggested different hells have different types of Riders that have diffrent functions

              • 11 months ago
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                They tried doing that with the X-men recently by having a Spirit of Change possess Banshee for a while, but that kind of fizzled out because a) It was self-contained to the X-men's books, and b) Turns out that a Spirit of Vengeance that was bullied by his peers so hard that he hid himself for tens of thousands of years for being too much of a hippie whiner doesn't make for a particularly fearsome ally for mutantkind, and frankly has nothing to do with the actual Ghost Rider run currently going on so wasn't even mentioned

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was more thinking of the brisson run which had Danny has the Spirit of Corruption or whatever which got its power from Limbo instead of hell which if the run had not been cut short by Covid it might have expanded on those more, so having Ghost roller be the Spirit of Ecstasy or something from the Eighth city would make it some interesting expansion to Ghost rider's mythology

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, that would be super interesting, although I feel that kind of thing is better served for a fan project than giving it to Marvel. Much like a lot of these variant covers, to be frank, they look more like fan concepts that were stolen and published than fresh hypotheticals on "What if Spider-Boy but other capes".

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like other heroes have it worse and still manage to be more upbeat. Not saying that the Ghost Rider needs to be a cheerful Charlie but the edginess of the aesthetic, the attitude, and the jobbing makes the character just feel out of touch and impotent.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Noseless wolverine but a girl? That's it? Kinda lazy

        could be wolverine son he had with a random savage lands tribes women in the 90s comic
        >https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Erista_(Earth-616)

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looks kinda dumb but memorable. I like it.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Teen Hulk here isn't actually new. He was a gag character in some old Marvel guidebook forever ago. I guess blonde!Hulk is a pretty easy to come up with.

        These look like some cheap cosplays

        Looks like someone photoshopped hair on top of Miles' head, it doesn't look like it's connected to the head

        This looks very tumblr-ish, no idea why Cinemaphile sucks this one off so much

        Geuinely looks good

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >no idea why Cinemaphile sucks this one off so much
          Jinx clone

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      cute

      cute

      cute

      cute

      disgusting

      cutest

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      These two look like they could have been a part of that Children of the Atom series from two years ago.

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        that was weird team since it about a bunch of human teen Mutantaboo's larping as mutants using tech for no good reason

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      these two are cute

    • 11 months ago
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      These are the only good ones.

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    Anonymous

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    The question was "should", not "would"
    Those two should definitely be made real as a frick you to those racist scumbags. Plus, they acually look good.

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    Anonymous

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    >there's a whole thread about this girl
    what's with this twitter chick

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    White Ororo? Dreadlock'd femme Miles? Ironheart as a boy in cheap armour? Another goddess of thunder? Kamala done right except as a trans? Black teen Dr. Strange and white teen Dr. Strange? moron Amadeus Cho?
    I'll give it to rollerblading GR and jailbait Magneto as they seems cool.

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    Anonymous

    [...]

    why do you think the Thor sidekick is a 10/10?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was judging the art piece as a whole. The bifrost, the thunder, the art style, the lightning tatoo, the girl looking badass
      But I didn't notice that the artist totally screwed up the right leg.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        at least the artist didn't give her a giant dick by mistake like same artists have done

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >mistake

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

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    Mental illness.
    the /ss/ sidekick would be a breath of fresh air for Carol.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

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    i was serious too. most of the times she only interact with women in her comics, it is getting tiresome.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    So which minority is this c-lister catering to?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Albinos hopefully

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    We still haven’t see the Deadpool, Blade and Scarlet Witch “sidekick” variants yet.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      their is also a TBA book. which is getting one as well

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rumor is it’s a new Champions book

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          that would make the title of these alt cover make more sense then

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m surprised Cinemaphile hasn’t tried to come up with names for all these variant champions yet.
    Like American Flyer.
    Or Moon Squire.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am. I already said a bunch of 'em but I was thinking Flux for Magneto-girl and Stormcloud(or just Cloud) or maybe Forecast for storm-girl.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Ghost Rider artist named her Fantasma on Twitter.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        So does that mean all artist named their characters for this?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          At least one did.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm still gonna call her Ghost Roller

        >She's basically a toothless Quentin Quire in that she represents rebellious youth adopting radicals of the past
        >However she's a total Latte Liberal at odds with Magneto's true message but unaware of that fact

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's just Ghost in Spanish!

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Marvel already has at least 3 characters by that name.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Marvel reuses names all the time so that would hardly be surprising

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            While that's true, one of them appeared only a few months back in the Wasp mini. It might make sense to use a different name.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like any of these, there's far too much pedobait in comics already and this just adds more fuel to that fire.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shut it boomer

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are they still trying to push champions when nobody buys those comics?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      because it's the only name Marvel has for a teen superhero book which isn't New Warriors(a title Breevort despises) or. Young Avergers(which has too much baggage with it

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