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>wigger masterpiece
At least shill Boys in the Hood. That's actually a good movie that doesn't glorify that lifestyle
>he thinks Menace ii Society glorifies anything
moron
>Ayo let's cast this nerdy white tax man to go to the hood so our strong gangbangers can punk the shit out of his cracka ass
>let's create this absolute cartoon version of a gangster to come off like he da hardest homie to ever exist
>my boy Kane finna jack this dudes rims at gunpoint RIGHT IN THE DRIVE THRU cause he's a hard mother fricker too. And to show he's REALLY hard he's gonna get some fries or whatever added to the guy who he's holding up
Millenial wiggers are the most moronic homosexualy group of people since the beginning of time
are those greentext examples supposed to prove something?
They did a good job of exposing this movie as glorifying gang culture
>but people die and go to jail!!!!
Do you honestly think "gangsta rap," songs where they talk about going to jail, killing others, getting themselves killed, etc., are also sending positive messages to their communities about avoiding that lifestyle?
It's the same fricking thing and you would have to be blind not to see that.
>Film showcasing how a man's actions negatively impact his life and the lives of those around him in a masster of fact and brutal way is glorifying the lifestyle
Yep, you're a fricking idiot.
>Gangsta rap sends a positive message to the community about the dangers of getting involved with gangs, selling drugs, shooting people, getting shot at, etc.,
You absolute fricking moron. I'm guessing you're not very close with your dad
>But what about...
We're not talking about gangsta rap. You've brought that up like it's a smoking gun when it has absolutely nothing to do with the film.
>if it's a movie its a coming of age tale about the dangers urban youth encounter on a day to day basis and a strong message to direct our youth away from that lifestyle
>if it's music it's bad
Yes, that 100% is a smoking gun.
>his only argument is "well, uh, gangsta rap exists!"
lmao
Children who were raised without fathers should be euthanized
Still no argument. I really wonder how anyone could watch Menace II Society and think anything is glorified. Every character is a complete moron who makes mistake after mistake. If it was glorified as you claim, they would be portrayed as godfather style kingpins, who are the types that Black folk actually want to emulate.
The argument is that the movie glorifies gang culture the exact same way as rap music and videos did. And to add to that, this was a time when that culture was being pushed really hard as the cool thing to be doing
That's not making an argument, you're only stating your (dumb) opinion. You haven't given any evidence as to why this film is comparable to a gangsta rap song, other than mentioning shit that has nothing to do with the film itself. I mean, have you even watched it?
>Hip-hop did it so the film did it too!
>Hey kids, come and die full of holes just like Caine! Doesn't that look like fun?
Your reasoning has more flaws than an Ubisoft game on release day.
You're the perfect example of why mother's shouldn't drink while pregnant.
those "hardcore gangsters" you think are being glorified are clearly portrayed as ignorant morons with deep insecurities and mental problems. No one wants to be like the morons in that movie, not even blacks who watch it. They want to be like Wesley Snipes in New Jack City or Denzel in American Gangster
But the whole point was Caine didn't give a crap about dying, even when his grandparents and friend was like 'this lifestyle is going to kill you soon'. And at the end when he dies he's like 'oh dang I guess I did care about life' but it was too late.
What's your point? Caine does a bunch of stupid shit and gets himself and innocent people killed in the process. O-Dog does a bunch of stupid shit and is eventually arrested and likely spent the rest of his life in a cell.
It doesn't glorify anyting, and you're a total moron if you think it does.
Is it shown on screen that O-Dog was arrested?
Yes.
>you haven't given any evidence as to why this film is comparable to a gangsta rap song
See
>>Hip-hop did it so the film did it too!
>Hey kids, come and die full of holes just like Caine! Doesn't that look like fun?
Your reasoning has more flaws than an Ubisoft game on release day.
Rappers never gloat about selling drugs, shooting people and getting shot right? moron.
Your entire argument for [thing] doing something is that other [thing] did it. The moron here is you.
Gang culture worship is capable of being transmitted both by film AND music. Shocking!
One thing being true doesn't make another true you fricking dimwit.
They're both true in this instance. Like I said before that movie is a 90 minute rap video, not some public service announcement about the dangers of drug dealing and gang banger lifestyle
A couple examples to support my position are right here once again in case you forgot again
>They're both true
In your head and in your head only.
I've already explained my point of view multiple times. Nothing good happens to anyone in the film. It's as simple as that. You don't have to look at the wider neighbourhood to know these people are terrible and this is not a good life to live.
>Nothing good happens to anyone in the film
>these people are terrible and this is not a good life to live.
No different than stylized and glorified mob/crime movies
You what? Mobsters are always shown living lavish lifestyles where occassionally something bad happens. Caine and his friends live in fricking squalor.
Anyone who enjoyed listening to gangbanger ghetto rap music (like the suburban directors of the movie) didn't see anything in Menace to dislike gangbanger ghetto rap music. If you blink you'll miss O-Dogg getting arrested, for the whole movie he's the perfect image of the gangbanger ghetto thug except for like 3 seconds. Now think about how "cool" mobsters like Tony Montana or Tommy/Nicky ended up
>glorify
homie almost every single person in Menace has a bad ending.
It still glorified getting shot and killed. Nobody was paralyzed for life, nobody complained about pissing and shitting in a bag for life. Getting shot isn't always an off switch. Even Boyz N Da Hood had a wheelchair-bound character
It's a glorification because there are no quadraspazzed characters? Are you for real?
That's actually what happens in the ghetto hood. Saw what you want about Boyz, but in Menace the actual neighborhood is an afterthought
That doesn't make it a glorification.
Think about the Korean store. The owners are dead, the store is shut down permanently. That would frick over a lot of people in that community who are old or don't have a car etc. Except for the store tape and the girl's gangbanger brother at the end, most of Menace happens in a bubble and is forgotten, while Boyz was about everyone affected by teen ghetto thugs. Plenty of Westerns end with the good guy or charismatic villain dying in a cool glorified way
That still doesn't make it a glorification.
>Plenty of Westerns end with the good guy or charismatic villain dying in a cool glorified way
Which is completely irrelevant to Menace.
Feel free to explain your point of view
Boyz in tha hood is a shitty apologist story, if you can even bother calling it that and not just a shitty bad neighborhood version of american graffiti, its like the other shitty 80s hood movies that tries to blame the environment for the behavior of the characters, the characters themselves barely have any agency and their choices are pawned off as from the influence of others
Menace is a character driven story, to the point it exists in a universe without street gangs to blame, the violence in the movie is purely the result of the actions of the characters, Caine has every other authority figure around him telling him to do differently but by the time he thinks "maybe im an butthole" and considers changing his ways its already too late
This is a good assessment. You are right about the characters having little agency in Boys N the Hood. Ricky had “made it”, yet gets killed through no fault of his own because the world he lives in is supposed to be inescapably brutal. However like you said, in Menace what happens to Caine is brought upon him as a result of his own actions, he is less of a senseless victim of the system than Ricky. That said, I personally like both movies still.
Yeah Menace glorifies that lifestyle like Trainspotting glorifies heroin addiction
moron.
menace to society really glorifies double murder for no reason
>Boys in the Hood
no ha i no use uh wyteboi?
*Boyz
Boyz n the Hood
Frick. Well I've been exposed 🙁
dis R bord now
Boyz in the Hood is trash, with a scene where the writers literally try to blame black crime and black problems on whitey. Get better taste
Well no. It does blame black crimes and other problems on black people.
>hood greek tragedy
>"it glorifies it"
t. moron
Boyz in the Hood is pure cornball. Menace II Society is the only "hood movie" that ever actually depicted how violent black people really are. It pulls no punches.
>Boyz in the Hood is pure cornball
Boyz n the hood is minimalist and straight to the point.
>white man bad
cool point
Other than the gentrification speech the movie blamed the main characters or their shitty parents, it showed multi-generational squalor. And to be fair Cain in Menace had no parents
It shows the true nature of the asphalt ape.
I FEEL SOWRY FAH YAH MUTHA!
how was
Menace
I
Society?
I mean they obviously made this sequel but I never hear anyone talk about the first film. It's not on iMDB either.
It's like the Street Fighter games. II was so succesful that it overshadowed and memoryholed the first game, to such an extreme that they would make sequels directly from the sequel, upgraded versions, expansions etc.
You know you fricked up right
would a sequel to this be called Menace III Society, or 2 Menace 2 Society?
Menaces II Society.
Menace II the Universe
I thought this was a sequel based on the II in the title. kind of misleading tbdesu
Menace II Society: The Next Generation
Menace II Society 2: Electric Ooga Boogaloo
Menace Tokyo Drift
menace II society, too
Menace 2 Society 2: 2 Cool 4 School
Menace is the best, Boys is the worst.
>watch this film
>credits roll
>"wow, in the end he really was a Menace II Society"
That’s basically how the original screenplay ended kek
I don't give a frick about nothing I'll waste anybody
Imagine worshping Black folk even in movies lmao
mutts are fricked
>urban youth
are you that much of a homosexual that you can't just write Black person or black?
the only good street Black person movie is Fresh (1994)
This, based niglet played everyone like a game of chess
How am I supposed to watch this?? I haven't seen Menace 1 Society yet
truly, they are all a menace II society
dis homie spittin
Don't Be A Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood is unionically a better film and pure kino.
MESSAGE
what does getting killed in a drive by shooting feel like bros
Probably like getting hit with a bunch of hammers all at once.
Countries without a large african minority don't have places like this. When a european says "ghetto" he means a place with lots of smelly brown people. It still won't have anywhere near the criminality of a Black personhood
Paris has some nasty suburbs, Marseille as well.
Hasn't Paris been enriched with a large African population? I was thinking some eastern europe countries along with Russia probably have some dicey ghettos
Ghetto used to be the name for the israeli area of a town
Was I supposed to feel bad for Caine? He was a piece of shit or does the black community really think that's a good person?
Why do they all have those gargantuan dick sucking lips?
The principal of that school must have broke them good.
They need to make a Hollywood movie about KIABOYS
Wow, he's so close to getting there but at the very end he explains it away with his leftist programming.
As they all do. No dose of reality can fix it. The dose that does ends up killing them.
>a result of Milwaukee being segregated
Holy shit I'm quitting my job and am on the next flight to Milwaukee if this is true
Pavlovian conditioning
KIABOYS
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Thank god I drive a hyundai
Thank God I live in Utah
ya aite im finna watch that real quick but is it axually good doe?
The real question is: is there more kino like Menace II Society?
>is there more kino like Menace II Society?
Not really. Dead Presidents was the Hughes Bros follow up, but it's not really a hood movie. Definitely worth a watch though.
>Poor homies
>They live in the hood
>Guess they gotta do illegal shit
>Not a job in the city
>Its not our fault
>We should not go to school too
>Let's shoot at each other
Its the same story in every homie movie
No accountability, no forethought, no intelligence
>spend 1h 59m glorify gang lifestyle
>spend the last minute "oh yeah all that stuff you saw, don't do it"
It may not be what the director intended but it's what the audience sees.
I'm not really seeing the glorifying part. They're all living in a shit hole with no future, and the main characters' lives are pretty much over after the first scene.
To us it's squalor, but to them dealing drugs, doing drivebys, robbing people, and having hoes is the epitome of success to them.
You would think making it out of the hood would be a better story but to them that's lame and for white people.
Well, I'm judging it through my white perspective. I don't really care what street nogs are thinking about. It's not the movie's fault that half of it's audience is sub-80 IQ.
Nothing happened to the guy who drove Cain and O-Dogg to kill the guys who killed Cain's cousin. He had a cool one-liner and a glorified kill, never heard from again
That Samuel Jackson scene is legendary
>SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER homie
its amusing how much of this movie Boondocks aped for some of their best scenes
The movie makes it clear that the fate of all those homies who don't change their way is either death or prison.
>Nothing happened to the guy who drove Cain and O-Dogg to kill the guys
Other than his life? A-Wax was an old head still hanging out with street kids and shooting dice. The guy had no future.
I still find hillarious how they put the scene of the White man going to the shithole to meet the Black folk just to be smacked and talked down by one of them, and Black personlovers here saying that "i-it doesn't glorifies anything"
you're still trying this? it's over you lost, get a life.
>idiots dont remember the guy is theyre to hire the Black person to steal cars/commit insurance fraud
Oh he remembers. He's being dishonest because he can't accept he was wrong.
Oh you mean the White men that is shown as a coward and meek? The White man that stutters in every word in front of the Black person that towers over him to show how "tough" he is? The same White man that is afriad of going to their house at night even tho nobody would mess with him because, surprise he's a criminal too? That White man?
I wouldn't be surprised
The Korean store scene was a response to roof Koreans during the LA riots
I like how menace points out that Black folk bring each other down like when he robs that dude a the drive through, movie doesn't blame anyone but themself and even cops are fairly portrayed
To the majority of viewers the double murder at the beginning is a horrific scene. That is the opposite of glorification M2S made me scared of Black folk and their unpredictable explosive behavior. The main guy both robs a fellow homie for nothing and then he ditches the women he got pregnant and nearly kills her cousin who is just telling him to do the right thing, Cane is obviously morally compromised and that's also very clear to most viewers he consistently does the wrong thing. ODog basically jerk offs to his vid of the murder another thing that makes gangsters look even worse. The director shows cane dead after living a life of regret and makes a clear point that Odog will bein jail or dead soon. Just because something is depicted doesn't mean itsbeing praised, what's praised is nation of Islam homie and Canes grand parents are heroic for finally kicking him out
I'd argue M2S is the only hood movie that DOESNT glorify gang activity. It shows a semi realistic depiction where you can see from their perspective how they think they're Gs and have fun parties but its surrounded by the cold hard truth of what their actions lead to
you being deadass?
lmao the obvious White leftoids talking about how "i-it doesn't glorifies anything", Black folk find it great, are you stupid or something? hoodrats think being the worst scum imaginable it's the apex of masculinity, have you ever talked to a Black person in real life? I'm talking about actual hoodrats that call a Black person with a book a "wannabe White" or "uncle tom".
Who gives a shit that morons glorify these characters? They do the same with Scarface. That's not the movie's fault.
the amount of true hood homies who have seen M2S is significantly less than normal people, hood Blacks don't watch movies
lmao morons trying really hard to protect their Black person movie, it's both, just because lily White leftoids who never talked to a Black person before don't think the movie is glorifies Black person behaviour doesn't mean they don't look at this and think this is how they want to live their life.
taxi driver is bad because the movie is shit
>No argument
Imagine my shock.
don't worry, the amount of smart people reading this thread is significant less than Black personlovers, so they can't evaluate
You're rambling... in text. Gather your thoughts and present them in a coherent manner if you want to be taken seriously.
honestly your take is just garbage from the bottom to the top, nobody thinks M2S glorifies what it depicts so you just can't get past your autistic take that doesn't make sense to anyone with a brain
>no one glorifies it
>ok they do but they are Black folk so who cares
lmao
So is the film glorifying violence or are people glorifying the violence in the film? Make your mind up, frickwit.
>Taxi Driver is a bad movie because there are people who glorify Travis Bickle
this is you
A poorly written movie that glorifies bad behavior doesn't mean it's a bad movie, it makes it just a movie, with no connection to real life
Where my Blood In, Blood Out bros at?
so whats the most homie kino?
did someone just say Black personkino?
They packed this movie with many famous black entertainers but it flopped anyways.