I really like that DC put an actual creative in charge of their film universe. I know he's someone who is passionate about the source material, and I appreciated him shouting out the specific runs the projects will be drawing inspiration from.
I hope that by being headed by an actual artist who has made good movies before, DC's new film universe will be able to tell good stories in fun ways, and hopefully striking different tones in different films, rather than all feeling like the same movie in a way that a lot of the Marvel stuff does. That's just what I'm hoping for. I really love DC and I love all these characters, and I want to see them used in good movies and TV shows.
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Correct. He's got a great sensibility for these things. I worry about the talent around him, sub par writers, but his vision and his films themselves should be good.
>I know he's someone who is passionate about the source material, and I appreciated him shouting out the specific runs the projects will be drawing inspiration from.
Is he? All his adaptations are basically his own manchild fixations with a thin veneer of comic book stuff. Also the runs he's shouting out don't seem appropriate for the type of film he's apparently making. Why reference Kingdom Come and All-Star for a movie about Superman just starting out? Why not Superman for All Seasons or Birthright?
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Frick Gunn and his revisionism, every character for him is just a suit and a bunch of quips. He's even worse than Joss Weadon
inane nitpicking, looking for an excuse to b***h
I don't need an excuse to not like a movie director. If the movie is good I'm prepared to admit it, but the signs so far aren't encouraging.
>Why reference Kingdom Come and All-Star for a movie about Superman just starting out?
Maybe because that’s the sort of personality/characterization he’s shooting for with his Superman? I gotta agree with the other anon you’re just looking for things to b***h about
>personality/characterization he’s shooting for with his Superman?
You mean the stories where Superman is a conflicted older guy coming out of retirement and where he's an accomplished hero facing his own death? Those are the characterizations Gunn is drawing on for his first Superman film in a franchise?
I sadly find a lot of that in comic culture these days. There are real problems. I can't pretend that the comic industry is in a healthy place at all. But when people act like every single book Marvel or DC puts out is terrible, I have to roll my eyes because there's no reason to be that cynical.
>But when people act like every single book Marvel or DC puts out is terrible, I have to roll my eyes because there's no reason to be that cynical.
Except they're right. All of them are terrible though.
>I sadly find a lot of that in comic culture these days. There are real problems.
The problem is restricting the market to comic shops. I'm in my thirties now and I kind of hate going into them. I don't think you can even get subscriptions by mail anymore. I got my first Superman comic (pic related) at a fricking KROGER back in 2000 or so. That would never happen now.
The American comics industry would fix itself if it was forced to compete where a potential new customer base actually shops. I can buy 300 pages of Sailor Moon for like $9.99 at Target or a 22 page monthly capeshit comic for $4 in a niche store surrounded by smelly NEETs who play Magic the Gathering while I'm at work. Make it make sense.
>Except they're right. All of them are terrible though.
I like (and buy) She-Hulk only because I don't project my own expectations onto it. I can't do that with Spider-Man, Batman, or even the X-Men.
>I don't think you can even get subscriptions by mail anymore.
You actually can, but Marvel and DC make no effort to inform people of this and I have no idea why. Granted these services aren't super great, because you don't get the books on release day, you get them one to two weeks after usually. But they're way discounted to make up for it. You can get twelve issues of Sensational She-Hulk for $30.64, which is 36% off, if you're willing to just get them whenever they show up in your mailbox. Not perfect, but it's convenient and the money saved makes it easy to swallow in my opinion. I use them myself, and I don't know why Marvel and DC don't do anything to let people know that it's an option.
But yes I agree, I think comics need to think outside the box and figure out how to get the books in front of more people so they'll give them a shot.
It's not expectations that's causing this mentality, it's politics.
Woke stuff, while it can be a problem when it turns up, and I've seen some truly awful comics with woke themes that never should've been published, it's really not as big a problem as people make it out to be. When people say the biggest problem in comics is wokeness, I know they don't read anything except twitter screenshots.
>Why not Superman for All Seasons
He did.
>Why reference Kingdom Come and All-Star for a movie about Superman just starting out?
Honestly it might be necessary in order to distance themselves from Zack Snyder's take.
Especially Birthright. Birthright is one of my favorite Superman comics, but Man of Steel already uses it as a bsis for the whole "Clark is a transient" thing. It completely misses the point because that's just what Zack Snyder does, but going back to try and do it again would do more harm than good.
The second Suicide Squad was good. Shame they wasted Starro and killed off Flag, though.
Peacemaker was a good spinoff. Weird that the BBEG for Peacemaker was a body-stealing alien hivemind, while the BBEG for The Suicide Squad was a body-stealing alien hivemind.
The Butterflies in Peacemaker were parasites but they weren't a hivemind, it was pretty clear that they were distinct individuals.
>a positive thread on Cinemaphile that isn't bait
I'm in complete shock.
He's going to turn every character that isn't apart of the Trinity into a bafoon or sandy vegana
I would be more worried about Tom King being the foundation of the entire thing.
Nta, but I don't even think Tom King is untalented. I do think he needs to be reigned in a bit, so hopefully working with other people will help.
What are some of his works you like?
Well, it's not as much a specific thing of his that I like, but I can see what he's going for. Heroes in Crisis has interesting ideas. The core concept of exploring what being a superhero would do to your mental health has a lot of potential. It's just that the actual execution left a lot to be desired (and in that particular case I don't know how much was his fault, and how much executive meddling might've played a role)
I'm reading his Penguin series that's coming out now, and I'm liking it overall even though I've got some nitpicks too.
King has interesting ideas, but his bad habits as a writer hold him back.
I don't expect these new DC movies to be any good at all, but I also am past the point of caring about them as a "fan".
I have enough old comics to read probably for the rest of my life, and all of the DCAU sans Zeta Project on Blu-ray or DVD. It's just IP and I expect WB to kill it for good one day with their own incompetence. The good shit from the past (even parts of the Tomorrowverse) was good. Maybe that's enough.
Superman Legacy will flop because nobody likes Superman. Batman is the only popular DC character.
It's amazing thar Wonder Woman lost good will after only one shitty movie.
This dude literally said fricking Flash was one of the best capeshit movies of all time to advertise it. Dude's just as willing to say and do any bullshit for a paycheck as the rest of 'em.
Is there a single upcoming comic book movie Marvel or DC that looks good? The MCU is still in the post-Endgame tailspin and DC is doing rebooting by basically trying to be the MCU. The whole concept of cinematic universes is on the way out.
I'm curious for the Green Lantern show.
Is Nathan Fillion going to be playing Guy Gardner in that? He seems way to old for the part, and Guy seems petulant and angry but not smarmy like Fillion's go to acting mode.
>Gunn
>actual creative
>implying guardians 3 wasn't dogshit
I love Gunns work but I'm also sick of most capeshit.
Super is his best work btw
You could have said the exact same thing about Snyder.
Snyder is and always has been a talentless hack.
Not after Watchmen you couldn’t. And certainly not after Sucker Punch.
Are these Snydertards bots or payed shills? They're so quick to be in every Gunn related thread.
>Are these Snydertards bots or payed shills?
Neither. There is a minority of DC fans that have watched what DC has released over the past 10 years and have become pessimistic and jaded. And reading stuff, like the OP, makes them ( me ) roll their eyes.
>The guy who made the cringiest, worst performing DC film is going to save the brand
Gunngays are even more delusional and cultish than Snydergays
>I know he's someone who is passionate about the source material
Lol
Lmao even
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