Who is the most pointless "main" character in all of Star Trek?
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Who is the most pointless "main" character in all of Star Trek?
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Trip Tucker
As far as engineer characters (that are worth mentioning) go
scotty>obrien>geordie>trip>hemmer>torres
the lamest part of Trip was his romance with Tpol but even that was better than the slop we got with Torres/Tom
>hemmer
Go away.
Black person, no way obrien outranks mr le forge.
The only way a Mick NCO can outrank me
Is when O'Brien's dick BO flanks me
That's right, he's rank, the gas from his tank
makes neurazine seem so keen, take that to the bank
And offer a slip for the Golden Exchequer
Told O'Brien 'take a break,' found Keiko and wrecked her
Hit her arboretum, and plucked her ornamental pen
Deflowered by the power of an officer and gentleman
Cause officers have privilege above the enlisted
That's how the botanist I kissed agreed to be fisted
So don't you ever claim that Miles has authority
I've got the pips, the lips, the trips, and all the seniority
NBA Blindboy
They're not worthless. They're relentlessly handsome.
Chakotay
Chakotay at least serves to remind Janeway of Starfleet protocol when she wants to go rogue. Kim is a waste of space.
I watched it two years ago. Was he starfleet originally or just Marquis?
He left starfleet to join the Maquis. He talks about going to the academy.
Alright thanks. I do think it's unlikely a man who committed treason for his ideals would focus on regulations.
It's probably just because Janeway made a big deal about him giving too much leeway to the other Maquis. He's not gonna cut Janeway any slack if he can't go easy on his BFFs Belanna and Seska.
Chakotay felt like the safe Starfleet officer while Janeway was the hothead rebel.
Well chakotay had to behave and make peace with Starfleet to get back home. Janeway has to learn the hard way that some planets are just not worth talking to.
That black guy in ENT. No one who sees this post will be able to remember his name.
I wanna say it was Junebug
He was that guy who would sit up in the corners of rooms with low gravity
He’s a boomer.
WHAT THE FRICK IS THIS I TOTALLY WOULD'VE REMEMBERED HIS NAME YOU CAST A SPELL ON ME
Probably a technomage.
Hes literally that same black guy in Galaxy Quest
>PEDAL TO THE METAL, COMMANDER!
>Galaxy Quest
Kino
There was a black guy in ent? He mustve had no lines.
He was a space boomer.
I looked him up. Im pretty embarrassed I forgot about him but yeah his storyline never really concluded in anything.
He’s an allegory for Enterprise as a whole.
I probably have shit taste but I enjoyed enterprise just fine.
Nah, it’s comfy and the last good Star Trek show
I liked enterprise overall, season 3 and 4 were both good and it should have kept going. The season 4 arc of the different races coming together to find out who is attacking them all is very relevant today.
Travis.
And he's a fine character he just didn't get a lot of spotlight.
Anyone not named Archer, Trip or T'Misc was effectively written out after season 2
That's not really a bad thing though. TOS was a 3 man show as well.
Malcom had his moments in S4.
Phlox stayed pretty consistently relevant.
Travis Merryweather? .
Travis. The only reason I remember is because the one black friend in our neighborhood was also named Travis
This is fricking with me why can't I remember his name? I see people saying Travis but that doesn't sound right, is it??
Travis something. I think Mayweather but I might be wrong. He was the helmsman and his family were space truckers who were more interesting in one episode then he in four seasons.
Lieutenant Laredo
PEDAL TO THE METAL COMMANDER
I swear I did not look at the tread, no cheating..... Im gonna try to remember the entire casts names
>Captain Archer
>T Pol
>Trip
>Hochi
>Flox
I actually dont remember the security guys name either. The british dude. Im gonna guess the british guy is like a K name, like a Kelso or Connor. I think the black guy had a black name, also like a Kelso or a Trayvon.
It was Trayvon
Ensign Trayvon Startrek
>Hochi
He was not a great actor or the writers just didn’t give him any good role to play. The ensigns they kill off on TNG got better content than Travis. He was just kind of there for support. But I’ve definitely thought of this before, how he’s probably the most undeveloped Star Trek character ever.
I remember the black guy. Remember when he called zero G: "being back in the womb" like a weirdo.
Thats the only thing I remember him doing on the show.
Black Stickman
His single character trait is to tell everyone he's 'been in space' before, as pointed out by that homosexual israelite reviewer, whose name I ironically forget too.
The only thing I can remember about the episode involving his family is that it exists.
I remember his family was a long line of freighters and he left for Starfleet like a nerd!
I honestly don´t know if to commend you for remembering even that. But at least you have a better memory than me.
I liked ENT and I liked most of the cast, that said I dont remember much about it except for some very specific episodes.
>jojojo mislim da nas je pogodio torpidou
My mom thinks he's sexy
Ensign DeQuandius Jackson, or something.
TOS: Sulu
TNG: Crusher
DS9: Jadzia
VOY: Kim
ENT: The black guy
>Sulu
Not until the movies when Chekov becomes a real character.
>Crusher
Crusher is a lame character but the doctor will always be necessary. Troy is completely useless.
>Jadzia
It's Quark's moron brother or Sisko's moron son.
>hating on based Rom
you should be ashamed of yourself
Rom is a billion times better than Jake. Jake fricking socks. Worse than Wesley (which I assume is the Crusher they meant)
Jake sucked sure but hes not as bad as wesley.
Whiny journalist Jake is much worse than Wesley.
I'm going to disagree.
I preferred the doctor they replaced Crusher with. Forgot her name though.
She was a c**t to Dat-uh though
Pulaski was just McCoy with breasts.
>It's Quark's moron brother
This is a Rom board. have a nice day.
>Crusher is a lame character but the doctor will always be necessary. Troy is completely useless.
Yeah but Troy has le booba.
gates wins on foot game
Teepo has big logical fake breasts
TOS: Sulu
TNG: Troi
DS9: Jake
VOY: Kes
ENT: Mayweather
Accurate
>DS9: Jadzia
They at least fix Dax and turn her into a fun character half way into the show. I really don't think DS9 has a bad main cast member. Some might argue Jake but the writers knew to only use Jake when necessary, and I think the fact that he doesn't become a Star Fleet officer was really interesting. He's also a fun kid instead of some boring stuffy genius.
Initially but she quickly becomes his greatest advocate. In Penpals she's the one that asserts he has feelings when the others are discussing the situation and she was the one that argued Data was showing emotions in Peak Performance. Pulaski is a great character because she pushed and prodded for the main cast to grow. Crusher is really bland, and her episodes are easily the worst of the series. Bringing her back was a downgrade.
I like Jake's stuff with Nog. Plus he grew up alright considering his dad's a nutjob.
>Fun character
She went from "I know everything" *smirk*
To "boy I LOOOVE alien wiener, especially Worfs" *smirk*
Terrible butch actress, never felt like an officer, never did anything interesting.
Shit tier character, DS9s worst
Crusher isn’t pointless. She has to change Wesley’s diapers.
I wish Crusher never came back after season 2, Pulaski was so much better
This tbh
Pulaski was just gender swapped bones as a minor side character.
That's how it started off sure but we will never see what was to become of her. She was way more charming and way more involved in comparison to Beverly. But thinking about it now, there would probably be a lot less rape episodes.
>pulaski was a great character
yes thats what we're saying
pulaski was so fricking annoying I literally can't watch season 2 because of her
They tried to make her a new Bones as a cantankerous old doctor who disagrees with the logical one (Spock, Data) but the conflict never went anywhere interesting and Gates was just easier on the eyes.
Never before has a list been so reddit moronic
TOS: Aroura. Token black woman who does literally nothing but please genes fetishes
TNG: Troi, everyone forgets she does sweet frick all for 7 seasons with a token role to please genes fetishes
DS9: Gene is dead so they dont need women to please him. Bashier is a piece of shit who does nothing useful for the entire shows run.
VOY: The entire cast was a waste of space. Kim, Pedolix, Jerkotay, anyone in engineering. If its not a 7 gets suplexed by The Rock style episode dont even bother watching.
ENT: Pilot black guy at least drove the shuttle around. The asian chick on the radio just gets abducted every episode and raped by the bug people, which is my fetish so i liked it.
ENT began airing just a few months after VOY's finale. But, the gap between those two shows feels larger. Because they're in two different eras of television. Maybe it's just because ENT is 16:9, it seems more modern. But I think VOY is old school, episodic, monster of the week. Whereas, ENT's contemporaries are the Sopranos and the Wire. Television had fundamentally changed. And it's pretty obvious that ENT leaned into that change. The look and feel of the show, morally grey. Serialisation. But, a big part of The Sopranos and The Wire. And almost every 'Golden Age of Television' show that came after them. Is that those shows all had large casts of minor characters. Great for immersion and fleshing out the show's world. But, that's one aspect of the era that ENT didn't embrace. To the show's detriment. Hoshi and Travis are barely characters. They have like one episode each in the entire series where they're the main character. ENT would've been better if they had like a dozen crewman who the audience recognised and had personalities. DISCO did the exact same mistake. Which is even more egregious. Because they had 15 years to figure that out.
I doubt you even watched the show. Nearly everything you say about it is wrong, and obviously so.
Would DS9 be better if Curzon Dax was alive during the series?
Jadzia wasn't pointless. She made Worf worse and was hot.
Bones
That's not Neelix
The Original Series
> Chekhov
The Animated Series:
> Sulu
The Next Generation
> Troi
Deep Space Nine:
> Jake Sisko
Voyager:
>Neelix
Enterprise:
>Mayweather
Discovery
>The entire frickin' cast, and the purple Klingons
Strange New Worlds
>Ortega
Lower Decks:
>Rutherford
Picard
Jurati
>mixing corporate fanfic with real trek
Go away.
>Corporate trek
wtf are you talking about?
Take you NuTrek shit and shove it up your ass.
bump
Idk troi made sense as a member of the crew, mediating negotiations, discussions, and arguments by using her empath abilities. Wesley is the stereotypical choice, but it's still the right one. He wasn't even the fish out of water to explain things to the audience to because he knew everything. He was just there to be the best thing ever and you had to like it.
The real TNG answer is Tasha Yar.
Having a counsellor for the ship crew itself should've been standard seeing trough what shit they all go trough on a daily basis. I seem to remember that both Sisko and Janeway complained about not having one for their crews until Ezri showed up and the Doctor started working as one from time to time.
Making Troi telepathic was never used because a large amount of conflicts involved deception which a real telepath would have detected immediately. Saying "he's hiding something" is all she does and then nobody does anything because it's such a vague accusation. Troi is for T&A and giving generic advice.
The answer for every show after Enterprise is "all of them".
The most pointless main character on TOS was Janice Rand who was mercifully written out halfway through S1
homosexual
big Rand fan??
>shows up in the movies and Voyager looking like a sloppy wreck
Mogged so bad by Pulaski and Majel.
I've fricked worse hags
They're all pointless. The entire show revolved around Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. Scotty got some characterization because of his ability and role, but Shatner liked to steal his lines.
Everyone else was completely replaceable, including Sulu who was literally replaced by Chekov so Takei could star in the Green Berets.
At least they have established jobs and duties kek Rand would just walk onto the bridge to hand Kirk his coffee at the end of the episode then be given equal billing to DeForest Kelley
Used to know a girl who was the exact same phenotype and acted the exact same way as the character. Cracks me up to this day every time I see Rand on TOS. Especially when she gets mad it's fricking uncanny.
She'd never watched Star Trek and I never told her what I was laughing at.
ANY of the OCs in Picard.
nobody but you watched this
My dad and his wife and both her daughters and their husbands did
Wonder how it would have gone if they had gone with the original idea of Kim being who goes instead of Kes.
If they had kept Kes, she probably would have gotten some of the Seven plots and Tom Paris would have gotten the Kim plots. So Seven is less interesting and Tom is worse. Overall, worse for the show I think.
Reminder the only reason he wasn't killed off and removed from the show is because Wang got named to some stupid "sexiest man" list
He was hot. It was a good call because Kes was really boring.
Ocampa only get interesting after hitting the wall.
https://archive.vn/cHf9d
Jennifer Lien was a problem when it came to spirit gum too. She was apparently allergic and its why Kes had long hair to hide her ears. Most of the crew was protective over her issues, but it was still problematic at times. Wang was never an issue, so that also saved his job.
That episode where she came back was weird. It felt almost mean spirited.
Kes comes back with fury to rip apart Voyager because it ruined her life.
Nothing 'almost' about it
The conclusion of that 'sode is funny. Because Voyager did not ruin her life. And Janeway reminds her like 'uh, Kes. You misremember. You don't actually hate us. We're your friends. You like us'. And Kes is all like 'Whoops, my mistake. Sorry for almost murdering you all. Bye'.
to be fair this is what the cast periodically has to tell Jennifer Lien after a meth binge and stint in prison for exposing herself to livestock
You call that funny but I'm guessing she got written out and shat on cause she refused to blow somebody.
My porn headcanon treats her better than the actual show
Depends how drunk she was by S4. Seven of prostitute was fricking either Berman or Braga. Kim really should have been the one to be fired, everyone hated him.
I liked kim! The only person in that crew I didnt like was probably Tom but only because he was full of shit sometimes.
Shut up, Garrett
Tom is the best.
nick*
You just replied to me and that's literally my name. Scared me for a second. Then I realised I am moronic and you're referring to Nick Lorcano.
That a VOY screencap. Not TNG. Tom is canonically like 30.
Well it's not that I dont like tom I just like him the least, but he got some klingon pussy that in itself is pretty based.
Now do it in haiku form.
I dislike tom the pilot.
But he got klussy.
That in itself is truly based.
Yes I am also glad Locarno finally got his shit together.
I like everything about Tom.
My problem with him is he gets a bit too uppity, janeway is too kind to not put that fricker back in his place.
Tom with the SS Eww
I didn't mind the Guinan/Q shit, but I didn't like getting totally blue-balled on it. I don't know if they did anything later about it books or nuTrek, but that shit is literally not my problem.
TNG writers only had to give us something a little more, not tell us everything, but to leave that shit hanging like Picard wasn't even curious? Frick off.
I'm pretty sure TNG writers didnt give a frick about whoopi and it wasnt until that time travel episode with her and data where they came up with all the bullshit backstory. As far as I'm aware theres nothing else expanding on it.
>heres that first year cadet I was telliing you about
Star Trek is about the main trio, the other crew members are not that important.
>main trio
Captain, commander and doctor?
i meant TOS, kirk spock mccoy
It falls apart because TNG, DS9, and VOY don't fit the pattern.
TNG: Picard, Data, Riker or Worf
DS9: Sisko, Dax, and Kira (Dax is less important than Odo, Quark, O'Brien, and Bashir)
VOY: Janeway, Chakotay and Tuvok (Tuvok is less important than Seven and EMH)
DS9's main trio is Kira, Dukat, and Kira's Mom's Cheeks
TNG: Picard, Data, Worf
DS9: Sisko, Kira, Odo
VOY: Janeway, Seven, EMH
>VOY
Neelix is the best officer on that whole ship. And he was a good friend too
>Naomi tells Neelix the unfrozen alien kids were making fun of him
>He just shrugs it off and says sometimes people aren't nice.
Made me feel bad for hating him.
homie, any sane captain would've jettisoned Neelix out of the nearest airlock after the first five minutes with him.
Kylo Ren
Jar Jar Binks
>meesa no hava booba!
Jar Jar would be cancelled today.
Neelix.
Naomi Wildman is definitely the most pointless Voyager character. She exists purely to make Neelix and Seven more likeable by contrast
>No Naomi and that Borg girl they rescued episode about the kids exploring voyager during a crisis like that one TNG episode where picked and the others are de-aged and boarded by Ferengi
Missed opportunity. Closest we got was the ghost story episode but Naomi wasn't even there
Naomi Wildman is Wesley Crusher done right.
is the though
I liked Naomi and her mom. It was good to have more realistic type characters that aren’t super heroes or brainiacs. Or do single workings moms trigger you?
YOU SHUT YOUR FRICKING MOUTH AND IF YOU EVER SAY ANOTHER BAD WORD ABOUT MY FRIEND NEELIX I'LL PULL YOUR FRICKING FACE OFF
>watch Voyager as a kid
>Neelix is my third favorite character after after the Doctor and Tuvok
>rewatch Voyager in my 20s
>Neelix is the most annoying homosexual I've ever seen and want him off my screen whenever he appears
wait until your 30s. you'll relaize neelix was the hart and soul of voyager. and a good friend, too
Neelix is annoying during the early seasons with Kes, but I like him as the show goes on.
In general the kids were a missed opportunity. There's an entire episode about how they don't want to leave Seven and Voyager, and then they just leave Voyager (minus best boy Icheb).
the entire show felt plagued with missed opertunities
>the captains yacht on the belly of voyager that never once gets used
>final episode is a 2 part that just ENDS abruptly with them making it back to earth and absolutely zero conclusion
I agree. The show really needed a better showrunner to keep shit straight.
Geezers idea of a smash and grab is breaking into the window of a patient in a nursing home with dementia and stealing their adult diaper and eating the contents all on your sprint to the getaway vehicle. We need more angry geezers with zero social lives writing essays about tv shows from fourth years ago. We need them to get serious. It’s time to eat shit
I think you're making fun of us but that was so funny I had to updoot it
Yeoman Rand.
Apparently, a Yeoman is just a secretary, formerly a steward? All she ever did was be a damsel in distress.
>Who is the most pointless "main" character in all of Star Trek?
They guy who stuck wings on a nuclear-powered submarine.
Zeppelin wienerring?
Great, now I'll never not be able to call him that for the reset of my life. The Phoenix will forever be piloted by Zeppelin wienerring in my mind... butthole
Kim is a character for the show just for the Tom & Harry dynamic alone
>in an alternate universe we never got Worf because the big security officer had to be a woman
I remember reading once that in the early scripting phase they would give Tasha things to do and then they'd remove as much of it as possible by the final draft.
Tasha in early draft was suppose to be the love interest of data helping him better understand is humanity but the main actress hated it and decide to quit the show instead.
I know that feel bro
I didn’t realize Jessie Gender cameo’d in Lower Decks!
It's v unfair that Denise Crosby QUIT halfway through the first season. But, they still let her come back and gave her some pretty good parts in some great 'sodes. But they didn't bring Diana Muldaur back. Not even once. Like, it would've been fun if the crew needed doc Pulaski's help. Because of some space disease. And she has a nice little reunion with them all. And she says to Data 'don't look at me in the eyes, you fricking toaster. You will never be a person. A RAT is a million times closer to being a person than you will EVER be'. Some of that classic Pulaski banter.
You are just trying to bait me into posting this goddess in her prime.
If you ignore the old lady bobbed mullet perm. She's still attractive in TNG. The haircut added a decade at least. She was only 50-years-old. Same age as Jeri Ryan in Picard.
She'll always be hot to me because of her TOS roles.
I'd still bang her today if she's still alive, and I'd brag about it too.
Yeah I unironically prefer Polanski to Crusher
Is /TREK/ dead now? What happened to the general?
Trek died the moment the studio didnt fight for the control of their own ip to akiva goldsmith he still as a contract for like 3 movies and twice as many show.
This guy. He didn't even have the decency to be a real person. Crew member my ass, homie you more make-believe than Henrietta Pussycat
It is kind of frightening what happens to VOY in the end.
It is just a cartoon for the EHM and 7 to have wacky adventures in.
Him being denied human rights was so kino.
>It is just a cartoon for the EHM and 7 to have wacky adventures in.
I've been watching Voyager on Pluto here and there lately and I noticed this. I never watched the show in full from start to finish but by season 5 there's a good chance an episode will be about Seven or The Doctor.
She was really REALLY hot, and he had all the personality since there was a literal mandate making the main crew as boring as possible to make the aliens stand out.
The best part is knowing it made Mulgrew furious. She was a legit whatever wave feminist and some 10/10 bombshell married to a politician waltzes in and steals her limelight.
Watch the later seasons, Mulgrew is SEETHING in every interaction.
Jeri Ryan has mentioned that no one was happy about her being on set when she began, but Mulgrew held the grudge longest. Jeri Ryan was brought in to replace Jennifer Lien, but they all knew she was being marketed as the new face of the show. She had a lot of screentime even in episodes that weren't about her. The funny thing is that Voyager never really recovered in the ratings even after Seven's introduction, and ultimately it had lower ratings than DS9 did, but Seven almost certainly kept them from going down more and I think she's the reason Voyager is more recognized by the general public than DS9. Back when it was airing all my friends would watch Voyager just to gawk at Seven of Nine.
And they gave her to Chakotay of all people
I think Chakotay was paired with every woman but Kes at some point.
I used to straight up jerk off to her on screen when it was airing live. I was in the prime of my puberty and she was the hottest thing I had ever seen at that point.
He had Riker swag sometimes. Like he knew he could be bending Janeway over a bulkhead and just never did it to keep himself in the dominant position with her. Bro gave zero fricks about anything but whatever felt morally right at the time.
>I used to straight up jerk off to her on screen when it was airing live. I was in the prime of my puberty and she was the hottest thing I had ever seen at that point.
I hadn't started jerking off at that point but I'm pretty sure most of my friends were. Also Seven of Nine's toys are some of the few that went up in value.
>Also Seven of Nine's toys are some of the few that went up in value.
for hot glue reasons or for weird political reasons given what she was attached to?
VOY got pre-empted by wrassling sometimes and that hurt their viewership since there was virtually 0 overlap in audiences.
It is funny how if you look up old Trek memorabilia, on like ebay or whatever. Most of the '80s / '90s+, even still 'new in box', stuff is selling for less than the original sticker price. Its worth hasn't even kept up with inflation. Sort of like Beanie Babies. Marketed as 'collector's items'. So speculators bought the merch in bulk. Planning to probably sit on it for a few years and then sell for a profit once the price went up. But the price never went up. because too many people also had that same idea. Now there's more old merch than there are Trek fans. Vintage TOS merch probably did rise in value. That's why they though TNG would too. But, TOS was more rare. Because the toys were bought by kids who actually played with them and destroyed them and out grew them and threw them out. But TNG+ toys were bought by collectors and speculators who never took them out of the box.
Darmok has seen some shit
Swolecard on the left
>The funny thing is that Voyager never really recovered in the ratings even after Seven's introduction, and ultimately it had lower ratings than DS9 did
ds9 was syndicated and among that era of star trek it had the sharpest ratings decline and second least watched finale. voy as a network show was the best ratings performance after tng.
It's weird that VOY got somewhat more self-serious as it went along yet simultaneously more wacky and loopy. Peak comfort TV imo.
John Luke
Anyone on ENT since it was all just made up bullshit for the most part.
The most correct answer for old trek is Pike himself.
Token Yellow? xD
>TOS
Only Kirk, Spock, and McCoy are really main characters and they are all pretty essential.
>TNG
Worf in the first season.
>DS9
Definitely Rom. Jake and Nog are very good and not pointless at all. Jake is the emotional anchor for Sisko and Rom’s arc is incredible.
>VOY
Harry Kim, Seven of Nine, Neelix, Neelix’s girlfriend in the first couple of seasons, pretty much everyone really the entire show is pointless.
>ENT
The show quickly becomes just about Archer, Trip, and T’Pol. Everyone else wasn’t really that well developed.
I began watching Startrek when TNG was still running. Loved DS9 when it came out. Had high hopes for Voyager when it was launched but dropped it after first season bc I didnt like the captain and bc I missed the setting, the shared universe between shows. And now, 72 years later, I am looking back and Voyager, while I still didnt see the whole show, seems like part of the golden era. Oh boy I'm so sad abot Startrek. ENT was cook, but it didnt feel connected either. I would have loved it so mnuch if they would have just kept building the TNG/DS9 universe forever
The name of the place, being fricking useless
>Look all im saying is if we can't see the xenos
>We simply nuke the whole area
Too bad the second time it was really not that effective.
Worf. The biggest Jobber in the quadrant.
My problem with Trek is once they introduced the positronic brain, it would be the end of Starfleet as presented. It would be built in to entire ships to control everything with split second precision immensely altering and thus the construction of ships. No more need for sentient life to go out and explore. Just relay communications with FTL buoys, or superluminal communication hubs. As the ships grow smaller and smaller until you have the power of a Constitution class starship in the size of a runabout.
Even during Borg engagements they would be revered as gods by entire cubes and the queen herself.
Stupid post, Worf being a jobber didn't make him pointless, being the crew's jobber WAS the point. That's an important role whenever you need to establish something as a physical threat.
Never watched it.
what was the purpose of this character?
>to give Whoopi Goldberg a recurring role on Star Trek because she wanted it
Right now she's probably hypocritically arguing 'muh magic Black' characters am bad on the View because that's the CURRENT THING at the moment
Elaborate, I dont watch the view or care about diversity hires.
Whoopi was always generally well-liked and considered funny back in the day before they'd applaud any Black person for anything. Her character in the Patrick Swayze movie 'Ghost' was particularly well-liked despite her being an ugly nog b***h.
tl:dr:
>Patrick Swayze is a ghost trying to solve his own murder
>Whoopi is a fraud psychic shocked to discover she can actually hear ghosts and her mother wasn't lying about the women in her family being able to
>hilarity ensues
Good movie if you haven't seen it. She wins award for her part. Is well treated in her career. Only to be a total Lefty BLM-supporting fat c**t later on cackling hen 'muh Nazi Trump' show 'The View'.
This:
Also was generally well-received.
Then latest anti-white shit is 'muh magic Black' narrative where Hollywood would have non-whites play roles where some POC has 'spiritual' insight that helps the white hero, (not really a thing the way they claim, but that's the narrative). So character Whoopi Goldberg begged to play on Star Trek, (and presumably had a lot of input into), could be described that way, so what is she going to say about it now? Probably claim she was 'almost raped' into doing it by old white men is my guess.
she is a mega troll who wrote blackface jokes for ted danson.
Whoopi Goldberg was a big Star Trek fan. Who asked to be in TNG. And the producers were very happy to do that. Because she was also starring in Hollywood movies at the time. So they created a character for her who could easily be written in or out of the script, depending on her availability. If she couldn't make it, they'd rewrite her lines to be Troi's. If needed. Creating a coherent backstory or motivation for the character was secondary to just having Whoopi in the cast. And the promotion that would bring.
>If she couldn't make it, they'd rewrite her lines to be Troi's
If they already had Troi why would they need Giunan?
Diversity hire who would in theory pull in more viewers to trek, but they forgot only nerds watch trek and even less people watch trek now.
Her empathic powers were limited and lame and her role as a counselor/therapist/psychiatrist would have tonally conflicted with the mystical magical role they needed Guinan for
Eventually they did this stupid plot line about her and the Q fighting for eons and then it was never mentioned again.
>Privileged Black person comes in and undermines young white actress' first major TV role, later is complaining about racism
Unreal. As if Troi didn't look useless enough, she has someone come in and literally steal her lines and more intimate/significant conversations/advices with Picard/Stewart like it was an unattended bike on the Paramount lot. That's just fricking great for Marina who was having a hard enough time with a lame underwritten character already, now isn't it? ffs
They didn't NEED Giunan. They were lucky to get Whoopi. They wanted Whoopi. That was during her peak star power. Giunan was just how they thought to use her. Logistics. A character who could pop in and out of the show easily. Be in just one scene every few 'sodes. Rarely was she important for the plot or play a major role in a story. Because Whoopi was a busy woman. Like, they could've done the character differently. Make her an admiral, recurring alien antagonist, whatever. But what they did was fine. Unfinished, you never really find out much. But, fine.
(nta) guinan was never meant to be a very serious character. her mystery is what made her a bit unuqie and then they filled her back story with 'we got conquered by the borg', then some eps later its 'lol we also time travel'. like wtf. the fact that writers held her together at all is quite the point
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travis. they tried to give him a few eps but none of them really stuck. he wasn't even a bad character but they did nothing with him and the little they did do wasn't memorable at all
Everyone in voyager besides the doctor and seven.
Jadzia is worse than Jake, Jake had one (1) good episode.
Why was Jadzia permanently smug, but she did nothing.
It wasn't the character, it was the actress. That b***h looked fine, but couldn't act for shit, especially deliver technobabble in any kind of semi-convincing way, and she's the uber-smrat science officer. First epsiode I was like fricking kill me, but thought she might improve over time. Nope. Becker-b***h was just shit.
Why did they kill her off? The writers did it?
From what I understand she wanted to move onto "more serious acting" or some stereotypic shit like that, you know, like some shitty sitcom nobody cares about.
I just wondered why they didn't kill her off earlier since the character is literally designed for switching out actors - like Dr. Who level shit. Pity they didn't and give de Boer more time with it proper, instead of just leaving her to pick up the pieces of the Jadzia crapfest.
>you know, like some shitty sitcom nobody cares about.
Terry Farrell made the logical choice. Either stick around for one more year on a show that's about to wrap up and then have to find work, or take the contract when you can. I'm not saying Becker was good TV. I don't remember a single episode. But it was paying work for six years. She made the right decision from the perspective of someone trying to get paid.
Not my problem. The other actors stayed at their posts and finished the show out. Where's all the 'muh family' troupe comradery actors like to crap on about? I say good riddance, but the b***h wasn't concerned about them, or consistency, the fans, or what was best for the storytelling of the show she was in? The show that was doing backflips for years trying to make the character she sucked so hard at relevant? Frick her.
>get hired because breasts
>start acting like you got hired for your sparkling personality
ffs
VOY had just started and it was back to full on coomer trek and she didn't want to wear bawd clothing despite being a moronic model who couldn't act. She didn't even get her breasts out in the beach episode.
It’s was disappointed with her reluctance I always thought Jadzia was hot af
I was talking about the one where he kills himself.
Great episode but it had exceptional writing and great acting from his older self so I cant really credit jake for it.
So where do I start if I wanted to watch Star Trek with no prior knowledge of the show outside of it being referenced everywhere in pop culture
Probably Next Generation. For many people, TOS is too campy to watch first. If you like TNG, go back and watch TOS.
This.
First seasons are infamously dull and designed as a mostly reset button show anyway, so look up best episode lists and pick something from earlier seasons that's rated high enough, and start from there, then go back.
Not this. Movies are barely related.
Watch the films through 1 - 6
This is how I got into Trek and it got me hooked. The movies are fantastic
Looking through early seasons of TNG now and I'd suggest starting in Season 2: 'Measure of a Man' for something cerebral, 'Elementary Dear Data' for something more fun, introduces you to the holodeck and shit, 'Time Squared' for some time loop shit, then go back to Season 1 and watch the first episode if you like any of that. The first three episodes of Season 1 would be a slog for anyone right off the bat and the rest of Season 1 in general, so it would help to see where it's going at least, and how good it can get.
You want to get all that grounding in like the first episode before moving onto some turning points which is Season 2 "Q Who?" that's in turn the basis for the highly regarded two-parter Season 3 finale 'The Best of Both Worlds' along with the first episode of Season 4, where it starts really hitting its stride.
It can get a little spotty at the best of times, but there are some fan-favourite arcs and characters that come out of it. If you're not really into watching it right through after all that, you still might want to check out some of the top-rated episodes and you should have enough grounding to know what is going on.
Don't listen to the morons who tell you to skip TOS. Start with TOS
TOS is the best Star Trek show. Only a complete normalgay would be filtered by the small amount of camp
This. The trio are perfectly serviceable actors.
Always leaving Sulu out
well Scotty is the fourth guy. hell I'd pick Uhura over Sulu in terms of importance
Literally can't remember anything he did. Most of the side characters in DS9 had more to do.
Technically its Ezri and probably in TNG its Pulaski, but if seven seasons is the criteria then Harry Kim takes the crown for sure.
Nah you’re wrong. Harry Kim is a core character in virtually every episode and he contributes as the main science officer. Characters like Crusher, Riker, Troi are front runners for uselessness. I mean Riker literally just repeats what Picard says half the time.
This is about pointlessness though
Exactly.
Remember that VOY episode where Harry goes on an epic journey to actually try find himself a pulse? Wasn't too bad.
I don't remember much about Harry besides that except he never got promoted that I recall and was just Janeway's good little whipping-boy b***h.
Remember that episode where Harry wants to marry that alien that gave him an STD and Janeway said "no frick you" and then there was that episode where EMH wanted to live on that planet to be an opera star and she said "no frick you" and then EMH was like "YOU'D LET ME DO IT IF I WAS HARRY KIM WANTING TO LEAVE TO MARRY AN ALIEN" and Janeway was like "You're not Harry Kim" implying that she agrees that she would let Harry stay when she LITERALLY didn't in the EXACT same scenario he described.
Boy, I really hope someone got fired for that blunder.
Remember when The Simpsons was watchable? Me neither.
harry wanted it both ways
How come Harry Kim never got promoted?
Janeway kept resetting the timeline just to frick with him.
'Well someone's got to be the ensign.'
Rick Berman, allegedly.
ffs
Has anyone ever managed to stay awake while even saying the name Harr...(yawn)... y Ki....
This guy always says the same untrue shit about Voyager over and over and over for years. My guess is that he got it all from RLM.
I could never get into the movies. OldTrek shows are enjoyable, but the movies.... not my thing.