>Disney Princess basically means “girl main character that is a human”
No, it most certainly does not.
>Purist definitions.
>Mulan cause she's the most skilled of the Disney princesses.
Debatable. Raya and Moana are very skilled, too.
Moana has a transferable sailing skill set which has useful every day applications, especially if you're living on the islands, but Mulan and Raya are both Warriors during peace time.
If your state is gerrymandered to hell and back, there's no doubt that minorities tend to have a say in things.
There are still far more conservative Christians in this state than Muslim extremists. It's more the auto worker unions and the college women wanting to protect their "right" to murder children that are running things here. That and the OTHER party is practically non-existent here these days, but I won't get into that...
>>Mary-Sues aren't perfect. Elsa is.
Not to rain on your parade, but no character is perfect. (Not even those deemed by those who find deep admiration amongst said characters. As sad as it is to say, that's how writing characters work.)
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>no character is perfect
Except Elsa, of course.
She definitely isn’t perfect in F1. That’s why people liked her so much. She had the angsty kinda byronic attitude that bordered on being villainous so she was pretty unique. I hear mary sue complains about her in F2 but I dont like that movie so I can barely remember anything about it
She definitely isn’t perfect in F1. That’s why people liked her so much. She had the angsty kinda byronic attitude that bordered on being villainous so she was pretty unique. I hear mary sue complains about her in F2 but I dont like that movie so I can barely remember anything about it
1 month ago
Anonymous
There's now a new rule when it comes to film: Most (if not all) sequels are shit by default.
>Isn’t she classified as one in Kingdom Hearts
Yes, but KH canon is not Disney canon and KH canon is fricked anyway. Alice is not on the official line up of Disney Princesses.
Disney licensed and approved
>Disney licensed and approved
Doesn't mean much since Disney licenses a lot of things. You really think a Disney exec oversees designs and implementation of every piece of licensed product? Frick no. They just make you promise you won't do anything inappropriate or weird that my damage the brand. Outside of that, they really don't give a frick as long as they get their money out of it.
In KH being a Princess of Heart means having a pure heart free of darkness. For the most part it's a convenient excuse to make the non-fighting princesses important, but Kairi and Alice aren't royalty so it's not a requirement.
Favorite princess and favorite disney girl are too difficult to disentangle. If you want to go by disney’s definition frozen characters aren’t part of the lineup. Disney Princess basically means “girl main character that is a human”
we all know about the official brand. people aren't going to care about that when they want to say who their favorite girl is. some of the girls not in the brand are also literally princesses >elsa >anna >eilonwy
True, Anna and Elsa are sometimes with the group, but not always, Disney considers them "Frozen Queens" instead of "Disney Princesses", obviously because Frozen is profitable on its own without needing to be part of a larger brand.
>part of the line
The only line I care about is the line in the dictionary that says what a princess is.
So if they're not the daughter of a monarch or bawdting it up with a prince, they ain't no princess.
They literally call Snow White a princess at the beginning of the movie, holy shit, how is this even a question?
Refer to
Just counting the official Disney Princesses™ >Princess by birth:
Snow White
Aurora
Jasmine (technically a shehzadi or sultana or begum, but they call her princess in the movie)
Ariel
Rapunzel
Merida >Princess by marriage at the end of the movie
Cinderella
Belle
Tiana >Daughter of a chief, similar role as a princess
Pocahontas
Moana
Raya >Not a princess
Mulan
I think it would depend. Are the beast's parents still alive?
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They aren't mentioned at all, and if they were outside the castle by the time it got enchanted they wouldn't be hit with the 'time stopping' magic. Probably dead from old age. The spell was up for a decade or 2 right?
Beast was still referred to as a prince. It's unknown if he was a crown prince or a substantive prince (most likely the latter). Either way, Belle would technically be a princess-consort when they marry as we aren't shown Beast ever ascending to the throne.
>Alice and Mulan are considered part of the line.
Mulan is part of the main group, Alice is part of the honorary ones like Vanellope or Tinker Bell, they are not the same.
>Isn't she just some random hot chick?
No? Snow White is one of the ones that is already a princess from the beginning, they make that very clear. >I don't think she's a princess.
Not in the traditional sense, but Moana is the daughter of the chief of her tribe and serves the same purpose as a princess, like Pocahontas. Also she's included in the group. >Literally a peasant girl
Literally marries a prince and becomes royalty at the end, also included in the group anyway.
Being an actual princess and being a Disney Princess™ are two different things.
Snow White's outfit is easily the best of them all. It's very photogenic and iconic, and I feel like it's an easy representation for fairy tales as a whole in pop culture.
>12yo
Man, you frickers will just say anything, her early age in the film is supposedly like 14, but she's clearly drawn older in later Disney material for obvious reasons.
>Snow White.
Her country invented it, of course she's done it. >Ariel
Well yeah she's the only Princess to have an actual nude scene. >Rapunzel
Duh >Merida
Wild girl so of course she's skinny dipped. >Aurora
She grew up in the forest mostly alone so probably >Jasmine
Hot Country means clothes are mostly optional
I feel like you could probably trick Anna into it. Tell her it's a cultural thing or something and she'd be rude not to partake. Elsa, though... I feel like even if you could trick her into it, her nerves would kick in and she'd start freezing things before she got too undressed.
Just counting the official Disney Princesses™ >Princess by birth:
Snow White
Aurora
Jasmine (technically a shehzadi or sultana or begum, but they call her princess in the movie)
Ariel
Rapunzel
Merida >Princess by marriage at the end of the movie
Cinderella
Belle
Tiana >Daughter of a chief, similar role as a princess
Pocahontas
Moana
Raya >Not a princess
Mulan
>Cinderlla
In private >Belle
Never nude, you spend month in a house where everything is living you start to get paranoid who's watching. >Tiana
Weird her time as a frog made her used to it. >Pocahontas
Yeah, she's been at one with nature before. >Moana
Definitely >Raya
...the wasteland can get hot. >Mulan
Only with other women.
What would you do if your favorite Disney princess wasn't in love with you, but another Disney princess was (let's say still within your top 5)? How would you respond?
Just counting the official Disney Princesses™ >Princess by birth:
Snow White
Aurora
Jasmine (technically a shehzadi or sultana or begum, but they call her princess in the movie)
Ariel
Rapunzel
Merida >Princess by marriage at the end of the movie
Cinderella
Belle
Tiana >Daughter of a chief, similar role as a princess
Pocahontas
Moana
Raya >Not a princess
Mulan
And the honorary princesses >Heroines and actual princesses that are not part of the official line-up, but have appeared in some official Disney Princess products or promotions or guest starred alongside the main princesses
Minnie Mouse
Alice
Wendy Darling and Tinker Bell
Maid Marian
Princess Eilonwy
Queen Nala
Esmeralda
Megara
Princess Dot
Jane Porter
Jessie the Yodeling Cowgirl
Princess Melody
Queen Kida Nedakh
Kairi
Ting-Ting, Su, and Mei
Kilala Reno
Giselle
Vanellope von Schweetz
Sofia the First
Elsa and Anna
Queen Mal
Princess Elena
I wonder if Mirabel and Asha will join either of these groups.
Was Cinderella ever some kind of royalty?I don't know if I'm making this up but I think her evil stepmother was some kind of duchess, which would make her dad a duke. It's why she gets to go to the ball with her children (Cinderella's stepsisters)
And the honorary princesses >Heroines and actual princesses that are not part of the official line-up, but have appeared in some official Disney Princess products or promotions or guest starred alongside the main princesses
Minnie Mouse
Alice
Wendy Darling and Tinker Bell
Maid Marian
Princess Eilonwy
Queen Nala
Esmeralda
Megara
Princess Dot
Jane Porter
Jessie the Yodeling Cowgirl
Princess Melody
Queen Kida Nedakh
Kairi
Ting-Ting, Su, and Mei
Kilala Reno
Giselle
Vanellope von Schweetz
Sofia the First
Elsa and Anna
Queen Mal
Princess Elena
They were promoted to Frozen Queens because they don't really need the other princesses, their brand is strong enough to stand on its own.
And even then, they're still included with the Disney Princesses sometimes, they're definitely the most prominent honorary princesses.
I like all the classic princesses but Pocahontas, Merida and Moana doesn't feel like they belong in the line up. Mulan and Tiana is kind of okay despite they aren't princesses either. And of course Rapunzel, Elsa and Anna belong there too.
>Tiana is kind of okay despite they aren't princesses either
I mean, Tiana is as much of a Princess as Belle or Cinderella, in fact, unlike the other two, Tiana becoming a Princess is actually a plot point in her movie.
I'm superficial and I need my princesses to wear a ball gown for at least once or they will never feel genuine. I'm a sucker for Jasmine so she gets a pass (and ultimately she wears something like that in the series and Aladdin 3).
I didn't mean it as an argument why she shouldn't be there, rather a reason why she should be there despite she is not really princess material personality wise.
Did anyone watch this? I really enjoyed it.
Snow White had a fun character in this, she has an axe and builds a fricking mech, but is also comically sweet.
Jasmine, like Aurora suffers from the low screen time and the Genie taking over every scene. She does have a personality, like "She is a fast learner". It is not obvious for young people but her tomboyish (compared to how girls were expected to act back then) personality was a big deal for kids back then. The reaction of Aladdin and Abu was exactly how the audience reacted in the movies when she jumped over on her own. She used her charms on her own and went 1v1 with Jafar even. Sure she had to be saved by Aladdin but still. The women who were girls back then always complimented how it gave them so much she wasn't passive like all the princesses before. While the series doesn't do much to shake the status quo up she is still relatively active and does things on her own in it.
>are they Disney Princesses™ or not?
No. There's currently only 13 official DPs (plus the 3 former members that we don't talk about). Every other princess of a Disney product (ie Vanellope, Leia, Star, etc) is just that. They are NOT canon Disney Princess™
They're nice pretty traditional princesses, I've always really liked them, even if they're simple, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, they pretty much started and perfected every trend that all future Disney Princesses would go on to use. Then again, I'm the type of guy who unironically likes Mario and Mickey over Luigi and Donald.
It still bugs me that I saw all those news stories about "Disney introduces its first Latina princess!" and then she was never actually a Disney Princess™.
>You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There's no federal age of consent it varies by state.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There's no state left in the union where 15 is the AoC
NH for a little while there allowed 13 in the case of a married union, but that got nixed several moons ago.
Probably in 10 years or so it will be 21 Federal.
1 month ago
Anonymous
And it also depends on parental approval and when the relationship began relative to the older party. So fricking a 15 yr old when you are +18 is not actually illegal. It's sometimes illegal
😛
1 month ago
Anonymous
>So fricking a 15 yr old when you are +18 is not actually illegal. It's sometimes illegal
good luck explaining that to the police champ
1 month ago
Anonymous
See:
[...]
She's a vaguely Arabian royal living in a middle eastern city state. US laws have no opinion on dicking her down.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.
She's a vaguely Arabian royal living in a middle eastern city state. US laws have no opinion on dicking her down.
1 month ago
Anonymous
See:
[...]
The Walt Disney Company is based in California. Fictional Arabian states and their laws do not apply.
1 month ago
Anonymous
What about Michigan? That state has quite the arabic influence.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Two small suburbs of Detroit is NOT "quite the Arab influence" for the entire state. We're pretty embarrassed about it, trust me.
1 month ago
Anonymous
If your state is gerrymandered to hell and back, there's no doubt that minorities tend to have a say in things.
1 month ago
Anonymous
They completely apply. Agrabah has no problem with sexy 15 yr old women marrying 20 yr old men or older
1 month ago
Anonymous
Aren't they also polyamorous? If so, that sounds like one hell-of-a life to live.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No they're bigamists. Totally different.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Sounds like Bigamy has too many unnecessary restrictions.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Agrababygirl frickers
leave the girl alone Mohammed
1 month ago
Anonymous
No, it is my culture.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Doesn't Islam have "denominations" like the Zombie Christ one?
1 month ago
Anonymous
My denomination just wants to frick princess Jasmine.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Fair enough, it's all a bunch of headcanon at the end of the day.
I feel like you could probably trick Anna into it. Tell her it's a cultural thing or something and she'd be rude not to partake. Elsa, though... I feel like even if you could trick her into it, her nerves would kick in and she'd start freezing things before she got too undressed.
According to Disney Anna is 18 and Elsa is like 21 or something so it's fine if they both commit incest with me.
Actually it's the reverse, and it's been pushed by literal Catholics.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The age of consent was invented when? Early 1900s or something? And has been gradually increasing ever since. Everyone has been brainwashed with a false sense of "morality", celebrating demonic acts like sex outside of marriage while thinking sex within marriage is evil if she's below 18 (while God would smile upon you for doing so). Demonize godly acts, celebrate demonic acts. What is right is now wrong, what's wrong is now right. Sad!
1 month ago
Anonymous
So the whole concept was a religious en-devour to begin with? Look, it's one thing to like 2d dicky, but I'd be real concerned if you were looking at my kid that way.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The age of consent was a Satanic concept to begin with to help stop healthy families from forming. I wouldn't be interested in spawn from a godless family.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Didn't the bible think incest was godless in general? I may be some atheist, but I can sense religious bullshit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Age of consent was pushed by mainline protestant extremists in the late 19th century because those people have always been obsessed with equality. Same people that were pushing abolition and women’s suffrage. I think it getting pushed up higher and higher has more to do with people needing 20 years of schooling to have a good job / settle down + women being in the labor force. Combine those and it’s basically impossible to consider marriage before like 27. People’s sexual and romantic mores are basically adjusting to the demands of the economy. That said, yeah it is depressing to have to only consider women for marriage once they’re past their peak which for most men seems to average out to about age 20
1 month ago
Anonymous
So is this a Protestant vs. Evangelical thing? I dunno, all religions seem pretty culty in my book.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Reminder that some crusty old guy invented breakfast in order to stop people from jerking off.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I know this very well, since Battle Creek is in my home state.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Eh kinda. The earliest American social justice crusades were all spearheaded by northeastern protestants of mainline or sectarian denomination. The age of consent obsession is an offshoot of puritan sexual teachings basically. Large age gaps in relationships were historically associated with the american South which is also associated with tradition, patriarchy, anti-democratic norms, bsckwardness etc which Puritan descendants were also opposed to by the 19th century at least. That’s why age of consent is associated with the progressive movement; a lot of it has to do with undermining male supremacy
1 month ago
Anonymous
>undermining male supremacy
I was starting to think you were making a point until the very last thing you said.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It was. They kinda believed then and definitely believe now that men wanting younger girls is a sign that those men want to dominate their partner / want an easily controllable partner. When people think about young or arranged marriages today they immediately associate it with European monarchy or rednecks. That isn’t a coincidence, the New England Christian progressive type people were no friends of the monarchical “Old Europe” they had escaped from and also no friends of rednecks. That’s why it would be accurate to say that age gap relationships are associated in the collective consciousness of America as being outdated or reactionary
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Age of consent was pushed by mainline protestant extremists in the late 19th century because those people have always been obsessed with equality
The original reason for the invention of the AoC was to stop child prostitution which had become rampant in the new cities of the industrial revolution. Prostitution was one of the few ways for women living in poverty (often orphans or widows with no working man to support them) to survive in an urban environment since they had been displaced from subsistence farming. Most places set it around 12-13 to coincide with what was already the historically accepted age of puberty and marriage for hundreds of years, also around the age girls could legally start working for 12 hours a day. They didn't really care about any of the modern notions of the rights of the child, they were still happy to have them pulling 10 hour factory shifts, they just wanted people to stop fricking pre-pubescent kids aka actual pedophilia.
1 month ago
Anonymous
So this was originally sex work regulation? Well frick, why does Patreon have to be such a shithole now?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Come to think of it, we wouldn't even have "pimps" if prostitution was legalized on a federal level.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No, the government would be the new pimp. >takes a healthy cut >gives ""protection"" >beats your ass if you frick up or your numbers dont match up
1 month ago
Anonymous
Kinda. The Victorians developed a moral objection to prostitution and the "defilement" of unmarried girls that hadn't really been present in previous centuries when it was almost taken for granted that married or not, men would frick about with hookers. Until then it was really only the daughters of nobility whose virginities were valuable and protected in the way devout religious folk think of today, due to the alliances that could be formed by marring them off and getting them pregnant. Girls from the lower classes could (and often did) frick as much as they wanted and nobody gave a shit. Essentially what happened is that the upper classes imposed their stricter morality on everyone.
1 month ago
Anonymous
People were tired of the excesses of the Regency Period, the Wars were over, Britian emerged as the worlds first true superpower, and it was time to settle down.
Of course nobody really cared what the poor did but the middle class was growing rapidly and they would need etiquette lessons.
"Disney princess" is a marketing term invented in the early 2000's. But even long before that point, it has had a cynical streak. The only reason why Disney even made another 'princess' movie, 15 years after Snow White, was because the company was in financial troubles (from WW2, staff leaving, etc). In 1950, the movie Cinderella was done out of desperation, to create something that harked back to Snow White, which was still Disney's most-famous film (and it worked). After the "trilogy" of princess movies (Snow White + Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty) this idea finally became dormant. And then 40 years later the "Disney renaissance" came about and we got more princess wank right in our faces in bigger doses than ever before.
For me it's Princess Aurora. Sleeping Beauty is still the best looking movie ever made imo.
It was also Disney's most ambitious film before he passed away, which says a lot about how animation was viewed more as an artform. (Rather than it being something for parents to use in order to "babysit" their kids.)
I hate to break it to you, but it isn't. Disney's first 5 movies were the most-ambitious ones.
It’s insane that Disney still won’t make a Disney Princess show and let them hang out. The princesses were the only part anyone remembers from Bash It Brian 2. The merch rebrand did well so they can’t cling to ‘muh brand integrity’ as a reason not to let them interact. A fun and light 11 minute series of non canon princess shenanigans would be cute, basically just make Pocket Princesses.
Yes, they know everyone would love it and they did it once with great success. People wouldn't even care if it was just meme references and "just girl things" jokes.
Why are you dumb fricks taking the exact same bait for the thousandth fricking time? Protip: next time you see a post along the lines of: >this drawing is underage!
Just don't fricking reply. Don't give them a (You). Don't contribute to making Cinemaphile an even shittier place than it already is.
Not everyone has read the interviews with the director where he autistically explained the in-universe history of the Buzz Lightyear media franchise where the cartoon was the Real Ghostbusters equivalent to the Lightyear movie and ultimately where Andy's Buzz and Zurg came from.
Pixar has actively buried the Star Command cartoon in every other way because Lasseter hated it and even with him gone they've refused to put it on Disney Plus. Angus MacLane's autism rants are the most acknowledgement they've given it in years.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Then screw Disney, we've got the INTERNET ARCHIVE.
I want Princess Eilonwy to be considered cuz I think Black Cauldron is underrated. It's criminal that Black Cauldron is overlooked and Disney might just have their own LoTR on their hands if they adapted it today
It was also Disney's most ambitious film before he passed away, which says a lot about how animation was viewed more as an artform. (Rather than it being something for parents to use in order to "babysit" their kids.)
This got me thinking, I'm surprised they didn't add Princess Leia to the whole Princess Team. I know it's hard cause Fisher is dead but still, that shouldn't stop Disney from doing worse.
The whole reason Giselle isn't in the line up is because they'd have to pay Amy Adams. I imagine they'd probably have to pay Carrie Fisher's family/estate, too.
If they made official 2D/3D animated versions that didn't look recognisably like the real actresses I'm not sure they would. Actors don't own the rights to the characters they play, only their own image.
my beloved!!
posted it again award
also anna is my favorite now but historically it was probably pocahontas or tinkerbell or something
Fat Anna my beloved
fertile
Not a Disney Princess™
Delete your post.
>Purist definitions.
Moana has a transferable sailing skill set which has useful every day applications, especially if you're living on the islands, but Mulan and Raya are both Warriors during peace time.
>Mulan and Raya are both Warriors during peace time.
A cog in the machine? I'm not sure if that's the best way to describe it.
How is she not a princess?
Elsa and Anna are Frozen Queens™
Good evening, brother-in-law! Elsa WAS a princess at one point so she counts
Elsa, because she is perfect
Correct answers
>because she is perfect
Thanks for confirming how she is nothing more than a lite-Mary Sue.
Mary-Sues aren't perfect. Elsa is.
There are still far more conservative Christians in this state than Muslim extremists. It's more the auto worker unions and the college women wanting to protect their "right" to murder children that are running things here. That and the OTHER party is practically non-existent here these days, but I won't get into that...
It's a swing state, so be thankful THC is a privilege here. We're one of the first steps to legalizing weed on a federal level.
>>Mary-Sues aren't perfect. Elsa is.
Not to rain on your parade, but no character is perfect. (Not even those deemed by those who find deep admiration amongst said characters. As sad as it is to say, that's how writing characters work.)
>no character is perfect
Except Elsa, of course.
That's exactly what makes her perfect.
a perfect cum dump
No
yeah, no strings attached
What Anna sees in her dreams
She definitely isn’t perfect in F1. That’s why people liked her so much. She had the angsty kinda byronic attitude that bordered on being villainous so she was pretty unique. I hear mary sue complains about her in F2 but I dont like that movie so I can barely remember anything about it
There's now a new rule when it comes to film: Most (if not all) sequels are shit by default.
God I fricking love Anna
She's a lovely, loveable person, but Elsa is superior
i always liked her hair in a bun the most
perfect target for painting.
imagine her saying she loves you before giving you a hug
Ew, the blandest of the bunch.
>le quirky female protagonist who gets caught up in sheer naivety.
>if you don't want a princess to peg you you aren't a real man, chud
It's true, though.
rapunzel, no contest
I have a soft spot for Cinderella
Rapunzel and Mulan are very close seconds tho
How could it be anyone else?
Tiana because she has incredibly useful, practical skills, Mulan because Tomboy, and Alice because she's a good girl who I want to take to church.
Alice isn't a princess you idiot, you moron, you absolute clown.
She's a real princess to me.
Also doesn't she show up in the princess line up from time to time?
Isn’t she classified as one in Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts is its own separate thing.
Disney licensed and approved
Still its own thing, she may be a Princess of Heart or whatever in Kingdom Hearts, but she's not a Disney Princess if that makes sense.
>Isn’t she classified as one in Kingdom Hearts
Yes, but KH canon is not Disney canon and KH canon is fricked anyway. Alice is not on the official line up of Disney Princesses.
>Disney licensed and approved
Doesn't mean much since Disney licenses a lot of things. You really think a Disney exec oversees designs and implementation of every piece of licensed product? Frick no. They just make you promise you won't do anything inappropriate or weird that my damage the brand. Outside of that, they really don't give a frick as long as they get their money out of it.
>they really don't give a frick as long as they get their money out of it.
So you mean to tell me Touchstone can finally come back?
In KH being a Princess of Heart means having a pure heart free of darkness. For the most part it's a convenient excuse to make the non-fighting princesses important, but Kairi and Alice aren't royalty so it's not a requirement.
>More like Kingdom Farts
Favorite princess and favorite disney girl are too difficult to disentangle. If you want to go by disney’s definition frozen characters aren’t part of the lineup. Disney Princess basically means “girl main character that is a human”
>Disney Princess basically means “girl main character that is a human”
No, it most certainly does not.
we all know about the official brand. people aren't going to care about that when they want to say who their favorite girl is. some of the girls not in the brand are also literally princesses
>elsa
>anna
>eilonwy
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True, Anna and Elsa are sometimes with the group, but not always, Disney considers them "Frozen Queens" instead of "Disney Princesses", obviously because Frozen is profitable on its own without needing to be part of a larger brand.
>Mulan
> because Tomboy
With society's current definition of tomboy it just means "twink with less to diddle" what's even the point anymore?
The point is that everyone has an ass. Get with the program, anon.
Are any of those characters Princesses?
Isn't she just some random hot chick?
I don't think she's a princess.
Literally a peasant girl
Marriage loop hole which was the literal crux of the movie for Tiana. Alice and Mulan are considered part of the line.
>part of the line
The only line I care about is the line in the dictionary that says what a princess is.
So if they're not the daughter of a monarch or bawdting it up with a prince, they ain't no princess.
Snow White is a princess right? That's why she had to live in seclusion with midgets.
Belle also married French royalty.
They literally call Snow White a princess at the beginning of the movie, holy shit, how is this even a question?
Refer to
The marriage loophole also applies to Belle and Cinderella.
Cinderella sure, but wouldn't Belle just be a Queen? There wasn't a higher monarch than Eric at the castle was there?
I think it would depend. Are the beast's parents still alive?
They aren't mentioned at all, and if they were outside the castle by the time it got enchanted they wouldn't be hit with the 'time stopping' magic. Probably dead from old age. The spell was up for a decade or 2 right?
Beast was still referred to as a prince. It's unknown if he was a crown prince or a substantive prince (most likely the latter). Either way, Belle would technically be a princess-consort when they marry as we aren't shown Beast ever ascending to the throne.
>Alice and Mulan are considered part of the line.
Mulan is part of the main group, Alice is part of the honorary ones like Vanellope or Tinker Bell, they are not the same.
>Isn't she just some random hot chick?
No? Snow White is one of the ones that is already a princess from the beginning, they make that very clear.
>I don't think she's a princess.
Not in the traditional sense, but Moana is the daughter of the chief of her tribe and serves the same purpose as a princess, like Pocahontas. Also she's included in the group.
>Literally a peasant girl
Literally marries a prince and becomes royalty at the end, also included in the group anyway.
Being an actual princess and being a Disney Princess™ are two different things.
1. Mulan
2. Belle
3. Jasmine
Snow White!
Cute!
Just by the by, I think Snow White has the best outfit by far.
Snow White's outfit is easily the best of them all. It's very photogenic and iconic, and I feel like it's an easy representation for fairy tales as a whole in pop culture.
Also a convenient tool for the japanese to cop- err, i mean "borrow"
There's literally nothing wrong with referencing the first animated film
homie can't just take credit for what Pinto Colvig was doing over 2 decades prior.
>Ackshooally, it's the first CEL-painted film.
Damn Disney already made best girl back in the 30’s
You only like her because she is the youngest at 12yo
>12yo
Man, you frickers will just say anything, her early age in the film is supposedly like 14, but she's clearly drawn older in later Disney material for obvious reasons.
Pocahontas probably, maybe Mulan or Aurora but Pocahontas was gorgeous, had a great personality, and the best songs.
Mulan
All the dark skinned ones
Mulan cause she's the most skilled of the Disney princesses.
>Mulan cause she's the most skilled of the Disney princesses.
Debatable. Raya and Moana are very skilled, too.
I second this, she's far more strategic too.
>Design-wise
1. Ariel
2. Aurora
2. Belle
>Character-wise
1. Jasmine
2. Rapunzel
3. Mulan
I appreciate your artistic (and written) approach.
Kida.
I like Aurora in Park After Dark
Tiana is super underrated
Jasmine by far. I would marry a girl like her IRL, assuming she would actually marry me haha ;_;
Moana solely because of feet
She's not even the best barefoot princess.
Moana isn't my favorite, but she's nice and meaty in a way the other princesses aren't.
A design that was made to transition well to 3d, but still doesn't reach the same level of quality as the renaissance-era designs.
Perhaps the word I'm looking for is "soul", but even that's a divisive word to throw around.
No, the word you're looking for is "Wish." (AKA Soulless.)
>Renaissance-era designs
>Top-tier quality designs
Lol
LMFAO even
They were good for their time, but they aged a lot better given how soulless Nu-Disney is.
Then again, I take after Sheridangays, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.
Shut the frick up, Krickfalusi-gay.
Believe me, I think Kuntfaluci sucks just as much as the next guy does.
Oh hey, she's got the Sonic grin.
I've always been a Belle man myself.
Eilonwy is the patrician's princess.
she's a kid.
The cute nudist
How would the other princesses cope with nudism?
>Snow White.
Her country invented it, of course she's done it.
>Ariel
Well yeah she's the only Princess to have an actual nude scene.
>Rapunzel
Duh
>Merida
Wild girl so of course she's skinny dipped.
>Aurora
She grew up in the forest mostly alone so probably
>Jasmine
Hot Country means clothes are mostly optional
You forgot
>Anna
Free spirit
>Elsa
Doesn't want to be restricted and is not bothered by cold temps
I feel like you could probably trick Anna into it. Tell her it's a cultural thing or something and she'd be rude not to partake. Elsa, though... I feel like even if you could trick her into it, her nerves would kick in and she'd start freezing things before she got too undressed.
elsanna gem
AI looks great with sketchy styles.
That's because AI as a whole is still in its infancy. Pytorch shit's getting better though, that's for sure.
I should do more
>Cinderlla
In private
>Belle
Never nude, you spend month in a house where everything is living you start to get paranoid who's watching.
>Tiana
Weird her time as a frog made her used to it.
>Pocahontas
Yeah, she's been at one with nature before.
>Moana
Definitely
>Raya
...the wasteland can get hot.
>Mulan
Only with other women.
imagine the bush
What would you do if your favorite Disney princess wasn't in love with you, but another Disney princess was (let's say still within your top 5)? How would you respond?
I'd take it. They're all around the same level of hotness and personality that'll get annoying in 3 months.
Elsa or nothing, my heart is hers alone
My top 5 is a smoke show so I win no matter what
Rapunzel
Mulan
Merida
Ariel
Tiana(frog)
Just counting the official Disney Princesses™
>Princess by birth:
Snow White
Aurora
Jasmine (technically a shehzadi or sultana or begum, but they call her princess in the movie)
Ariel
Rapunzel
Merida
>Princess by marriage at the end of the movie
Cinderella
Belle
Tiana
>Daughter of a chief, similar role as a princess
Pocahontas
Moana
Raya
>Not a princess
Mulan
I wonder if Mirabel and Asha will join either of these groups.
Was Cinderella ever some kind of royalty?I don't know if I'm making this up but I think her evil stepmother was some kind of duchess, which would make her dad a duke. It's why she gets to go to the ball with her children (Cinderella's stepsisters)
Every maiden in the kingdom regardless of social hierarchy was invited to the ball. The King was that desperate to get his son laid
>maiden
>son
>laid
Forced mairrage sure is as american as... colonialism.
And the honorary princesses
>Heroines and actual princesses that are not part of the official line-up, but have appeared in some official Disney Princess products or promotions or guest starred alongside the main princesses
Minnie Mouse
Alice
Wendy Darling and Tinker Bell
Maid Marian
Princess Eilonwy
Queen Nala
Esmeralda
Megara
Princess Dot
Jane Porter
Jessie the Yodeling Cowgirl
Princess Melody
Queen Kida Nedakh
Kairi
Ting-Ting, Su, and Mei
Kilala Reno
Giselle
Vanellope von Schweetz
Sofia the First
Elsa and Anna
Queen Mal
Princess Elena
It bothers me how they removed Elsa and Anna from the line despite being one of the most classical examples of princesses in WDAS movies
They were promoted to Frozen Queens because they don't really need the other princesses, their brand is strong enough to stand on its own.
And even then, they're still included with the Disney Princesses sometimes, they're definitely the most prominent honorary princesses.
>Vanellope von Schweetz
I'll be honest, she's the best one.
Why did they white wash Ariel?
Jasmine
I like all the classic princesses but Pocahontas, Merida and Moana doesn't feel like they belong in the line up. Mulan and Tiana is kind of okay despite they aren't princesses either. And of course Rapunzel, Elsa and Anna belong there too.
>Tiana is kind of okay despite they aren't princesses either
I mean, Tiana is as much of a Princess as Belle or Cinderella, in fact, unlike the other two, Tiana becoming a Princess is actually a plot point in her movie.
I'm superficial and I need my princesses to wear a ball gown for at least once or they will never feel genuine. I'm a sucker for Jasmine so she gets a pass (and ultimately she wears something like that in the series and Aladdin 3).
Have you watched the Princess and the Frog? She wears multiple dresses my dude.
I didn't mean it as an argument why she shouldn't be there, rather a reason why she should be there despite she is not really princess material personality wise.
>Merida
Isnt Merida a literal princess?
She is too much of a tomboy and I say this as someone who loves tomboys. Still, Princesses should be girly.
This
Is that Disney's definition of a princess or yours?
Mine. The Disney definition is the classic lineup + reps for every major target group.
Which one is correct?
It should be Disney's too
Did anyone watch this? I really enjoyed it.
Snow White had a fun character in this, she has an axe and builds a fricking mech, but is also comically sweet.
Might see it, looks cute
Weird that Gaston is the main villain but Belle doesn't show up.
Iago and Maleficent also show up as secondary villains, but there's no Jasmine or Aurora.
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No doubt she was drawn nude in official form.
(Probably in "the vault", sadly.)
She is forgotten, but she is still better than the rest of them.
Quite the outfit...
Yes anon they are called smallclothes.
You wouldn't be sexualizing the fictional cartoon child now would you?
Not really, I'm interested in how Character Design is done. Thought it was an odd choice.
Rapunzel
Since the term Princess seems very loose with Disney, I'd rather just say Disney girls, which my favs would be:
Helga Sinlclair
Tino's mom
Shego
Captain Amelia
Jasmine
Agent K
Susan Long
Alice
It's not that loose anon, it's just a brand.
Pretty much the girls in the OP image + Raya.
My top five in alphabetical order cause I don't actually know who my top favorite is:
>Anna
>Ariel
>Belle
>Elsa
>Jasmine
Is it strange I'm just don't care for her, she's not terrible but she's kind of boring as characters go
Eh, maybe, but Aladdin was one of my favorite movies growing up, so.
Jasmine, like Aurora suffers from the low screen time and the Genie taking over every scene. She does have a personality, like "She is a fast learner". It is not obvious for young people but her tomboyish (compared to how girls were expected to act back then) personality was a big deal for kids back then. The reaction of Aladdin and Abu was exactly how the audience reacted in the movies when she jumped over on her own. She used her charms on her own and went 1v1 with Jafar even. Sure she had to be saved by Aladdin but still. The women who were girls back then always complimented how it gave them so much she wasn't passive like all the princesses before. While the series doesn't do much to shake the status quo up she is still relatively active and does things on her own in it.
Eric Goldberg and Robin Williams both had a great thing going, but Katzenzlav saw profit and nothing more.
Ariel
Raps, hands down.
>Those curves.
Unf.
I like when artists don't turn her into a big titty bimbo
Offmodel face but something about the back and tummy anatomy is looking mighty fine
So these girls are Disney Princesses, but are they Disney Princesses™ or not?
They're not actually, not part of the main group at least.
Shame. Well their show featured other Princesses at least. Some of them looked ok in 3D.
They kept the "s-curves" of her design, so there's something to appreciate here.
>are they Disney Princesses™ or not?
No. There's currently only 13 official DPs (plus the 3 former members that we don't talk about). Every other princess of a Disney product (ie Vanellope, Leia, Star, etc) is just that. They are NOT canon Disney Princess™
The one with the biggest bush!
Merida
Is there anyone who likes Cinderella, Snow White or Sleeping Beauty?
Pretty to look at but pretty boring otherwise. Just like their princes.
Thought so
Why do you love those two?
They're nice pretty traditional princesses, I've always really liked them, even if they're simple, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, they pretty much started and perfected every trend that all future Disney Princesses would go on to use.
Then again, I'm the type of guy who unironically likes Mario and Mickey over Luigi and Donald.
I love Cinderella and Snow White, don't care for Aurora tho.
I do
Okay, why?
Aurora's fricking great.
Fricking great at being boring that is, she's basically a plot device in her own movie and does pretty much nothing.
It still bugs me that I saw all those news stories about "Disney introduces its first Latina princess!" and then she was never actually a Disney Princess™.
>he fell for the clickbait headlines
lmao moron
I actually do.
Post em
I would like to see the Ranger pictures
Anyone have the images of them as Power Rangers?
Animation wise - Jasmine
Character wise - Jasmine
Voice acting wise - Jasmine
Character design - Jasmine
Brown belly dancer princess is the best princess. Second best is Tiana.
dicky-tier take, but I do agree with your sentiment about how fluid her animation is.
Mulan, followed by Merida
Æthelflæd of Mercia
jasmin is definitely the best looking, but her personality is bland
>Who is your favourite Disney Princess?
Rapunzel.
Disney has an official line up
https://princess.disney.com/
I still don't count R*ya.
I don't trust what "Disney" considers "Official".
Marian.
you know she likes human men
Tiers are ordered btw.
You are/this list is missing URSULA'S CRAZY SISTER!!
Do you mean human ursula?
No, I mean URSULA'S CRAZY SISTER!!
MULAN IS NOT A PRINCESS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
For me, Merida.
Which princess(es) did you first fap to?
Rapunzel's feet.
I believe it was an old Incase elsa and anna picture. Don’t like how that guy draws faces now thoughever
Gaston.
Jasmine.
she is a child (15)
If a 15 yr old looked like that I still would.
>If a 15 yr old looked like that I still would.
MODS
AOC varies across the US and the world daddio
>You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.
There's no federal age of consent it varies by state.
There's no state left in the union where 15 is the AoC
NH for a little while there allowed 13 in the case of a married union, but that got nixed several moons ago.
Probably in 10 years or so it will be 21 Federal.
And it also depends on parental approval and when the relationship began relative to the older party. So fricking a 15 yr old when you are +18 is not actually illegal. It's sometimes illegal
😛
>So fricking a 15 yr old when you are +18 is not actually illegal. It's sometimes illegal
good luck explaining that to the police champ
See:
She's a vaguely Arabian royal living in a middle eastern city state. US laws have no opinion on dicking her down.
The Walt Disney Company is based in California. Fictional Arabian states and their laws do not apply.
What about Michigan? That state has quite the arabic influence.
Two small suburbs of Detroit is NOT "quite the Arab influence" for the entire state. We're pretty embarrassed about it, trust me.
If your state is gerrymandered to hell and back, there's no doubt that minorities tend to have a say in things.
They completely apply. Agrabah has no problem with sexy 15 yr old women marrying 20 yr old men or older
Aren't they also polyamorous? If so, that sounds like one hell-of-a life to live.
No they're bigamists. Totally different.
Sounds like Bigamy has too many unnecessary restrictions.
>Agrababygirl frickers
leave the girl alone Mohammed
No, it is my culture.
Doesn't Islam have "denominations" like the Zombie Christ one?
My denomination just wants to frick princess Jasmine.
Fair enough, it's all a bunch of headcanon at the end of the day.
>The Walt Disney Company is based in California
According to Disney Anna is 18 and Elsa is like 21 or something so it's fine if they both commit incest with me.
All princesses look like they vaguely 16, it is so weird Disney is now playing this
>akhsually they are 18+ years old
The latest agenda is to brainwash people into thinking it's not normal to want to marry and breed teenagers.
Actually it's the reverse, and it's been pushed by literal Catholics.
The age of consent was invented when? Early 1900s or something? And has been gradually increasing ever since. Everyone has been brainwashed with a false sense of "morality", celebrating demonic acts like sex outside of marriage while thinking sex within marriage is evil if she's below 18 (while God would smile upon you for doing so). Demonize godly acts, celebrate demonic acts. What is right is now wrong, what's wrong is now right. Sad!
So the whole concept was a religious en-devour to begin with? Look, it's one thing to like 2d dicky, but I'd be real concerned if you were looking at my kid that way.
The age of consent was a Satanic concept to begin with to help stop healthy families from forming. I wouldn't be interested in spawn from a godless family.
Didn't the bible think incest was godless in general? I may be some atheist, but I can sense religious bullshit.
Age of consent was pushed by mainline protestant extremists in the late 19th century because those people have always been obsessed with equality. Same people that were pushing abolition and women’s suffrage. I think it getting pushed up higher and higher has more to do with people needing 20 years of schooling to have a good job / settle down + women being in the labor force. Combine those and it’s basically impossible to consider marriage before like 27. People’s sexual and romantic mores are basically adjusting to the demands of the economy. That said, yeah it is depressing to have to only consider women for marriage once they’re past their peak which for most men seems to average out to about age 20
So is this a Protestant vs. Evangelical thing? I dunno, all religions seem pretty culty in my book.
Reminder that some crusty old guy invented breakfast in order to stop people from jerking off.
I know this very well, since Battle Creek is in my home state.
Eh kinda. The earliest American social justice crusades were all spearheaded by northeastern protestants of mainline or sectarian denomination. The age of consent obsession is an offshoot of puritan sexual teachings basically. Large age gaps in relationships were historically associated with the american South which is also associated with tradition, patriarchy, anti-democratic norms, bsckwardness etc which Puritan descendants were also opposed to by the 19th century at least. That’s why age of consent is associated with the progressive movement; a lot of it has to do with undermining male supremacy
>undermining male supremacy
I was starting to think you were making a point until the very last thing you said.
It was. They kinda believed then and definitely believe now that men wanting younger girls is a sign that those men want to dominate their partner / want an easily controllable partner. When people think about young or arranged marriages today they immediately associate it with European monarchy or rednecks. That isn’t a coincidence, the New England Christian progressive type people were no friends of the monarchical “Old Europe” they had escaped from and also no friends of rednecks. That’s why it would be accurate to say that age gap relationships are associated in the collective consciousness of America as being outdated or reactionary
>Age of consent was pushed by mainline protestant extremists in the late 19th century because those people have always been obsessed with equality
The original reason for the invention of the AoC was to stop child prostitution which had become rampant in the new cities of the industrial revolution. Prostitution was one of the few ways for women living in poverty (often orphans or widows with no working man to support them) to survive in an urban environment since they had been displaced from subsistence farming. Most places set it around 12-13 to coincide with what was already the historically accepted age of puberty and marriage for hundreds of years, also around the age girls could legally start working for 12 hours a day. They didn't really care about any of the modern notions of the rights of the child, they were still happy to have them pulling 10 hour factory shifts, they just wanted people to stop fricking pre-pubescent kids aka actual pedophilia.
So this was originally sex work regulation? Well frick, why does Patreon have to be such a shithole now?
Come to think of it, we wouldn't even have "pimps" if prostitution was legalized on a federal level.
No, the government would be the new pimp.
>takes a healthy cut
>gives ""protection""
>beats your ass if you frick up or your numbers dont match up
Kinda. The Victorians developed a moral objection to prostitution and the "defilement" of unmarried girls that hadn't really been present in previous centuries when it was almost taken for granted that married or not, men would frick about with hookers. Until then it was really only the daughters of nobility whose virginities were valuable and protected in the way devout religious folk think of today, due to the alliances that could be formed by marring them off and getting them pregnant. Girls from the lower classes could (and often did) frick as much as they wanted and nobody gave a shit. Essentially what happened is that the upper classes imposed their stricter morality on everyone.
People were tired of the excesses of the Regency Period, the Wars were over, Britian emerged as the worlds first true superpower, and it was time to settle down.
Of course nobody really cared what the poor did but the middle class was growing rapidly and they would need etiquette lessons.
I'll marry her
100% would
People really need to understand the difference between "a Disney princess" and "a Disney Princess™."
"Disney princess" is a marketing term invented in the early 2000's. But even long before that point, it has had a cynical streak. The only reason why Disney even made another 'princess' movie, 15 years after Snow White, was because the company was in financial troubles (from WW2, staff leaving, etc). In 1950, the movie Cinderella was done out of desperation, to create something that harked back to Snow White, which was still Disney's most-famous film (and it worked). After the "trilogy" of princess movies (Snow White + Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty) this idea finally became dormant. And then 40 years later the "Disney renaissance" came about and we got more princess wank right in our faces in bigger doses than ever before.
I hate to break it to you, but it isn't. Disney's first 5 movies were the most-ambitious ones.
Snow White is easily the most obvious, given that it was once considered "Disney's Folley."
So... literally blame the former Paramount execs? Checks out.
Is Judy a Disney Princess?
No, you fricking twat.
What? Why? Is she too old?
She's not marketable enough.
What are you talking about? Furries are THE target demographic.
Disney doesn't want that demographic anywhere near the Disney Princess brand.
Doesn't mean they haven't flirted with the idea beforehand...
I would absolutely eat Elsa's ass, off the record.
Looks like a pretty cold ass. Ngl
Elsa boob always made more sense to me because of the prospect of ice cold breast milk. Idk how her ice powers could be used in the context of an ass
Your tongue would get stuck...
No worries, put some warm lubricant on that ass.
Gwimbly
It’s insane that Disney still won’t make a Disney Princess show and let them hang out. The princesses were the only part anyone remembers from Bash It Brian 2. The merch rebrand did well so they can’t cling to ‘muh brand integrity’ as a reason not to let them interact. A fun and light 11 minute series of non canon princess shenanigans would be cute, basically just make Pocket Princesses.
Yes, they know everyone would love it and they did it once with great success. People wouldn't even care if it was just meme references and "just girl things" jokes.
>sBlack folk
That is begging for an edit
Why are you dumb fricks taking the exact same bait for the thousandth fricking time? Protip: next time you see a post along the lines of:
>this drawing is underage!
Just don't fricking reply. Don't give them a (You). Don't contribute to making Cinemaphile an even shittier place than it already is.
In terms of sex appeal and cooming?
Jasmine
In terms of whose movie and character do I like the most?
Rapunzel
Kino series that had absolutely no reason to be retconned with a shitty film.
>Retconned
Anon how stupid are you?
Not everyone has read the interviews with the director where he autistically explained the in-universe history of the Buzz Lightyear media franchise where the cartoon was the Real Ghostbusters equivalent to the Lightyear movie and ultimately where Andy's Buzz and Zurg came from.
Sounds like a bunch of corporate bootlicking.
Pixar has actively buried the Star Command cartoon in every other way because Lasseter hated it and even with him gone they've refused to put it on Disney Plus. Angus MacLane's autism rants are the most acknowledgement they've given it in years.
Then screw Disney, we've got the INTERNET ARCHIVE.
I want Princess Eilonwy to be considered cuz I think Black Cauldron is underrated. It's criminal that Black Cauldron is overlooked and Disney might just have their own LoTR on their hands if they adapted it today
For me it's Princess Aurora. Sleeping Beauty is still the best looking movie ever made imo.
It was also Disney's most ambitious film before he passed away, which says a lot about how animation was viewed more as an artform. (Rather than it being something for parents to use in order to "babysit" their kids.)
I love Cassandra
I hate Cassandra
Hasn't she suffered enough
No. She is literally a poster child for toxic, fake friends.
a woman?
Dumb servant.
A princess is a servant to the monarchy.
That's "Lady in Waiting" to you
7 veganas
Maybe more...imagine
Why does Cinemaphile hate Rapunzel?
I said rapunzel, but ok.
This got me thinking, I'm surprised they didn't add Princess Leia to the whole Princess Team. I know it's hard cause Fisher is dead but still, that shouldn't stop Disney from doing worse.
The whole reason Giselle isn't in the line up is because they'd have to pay Amy Adams. I imagine they'd probably have to pay Carrie Fisher's family/estate, too.
If they made official 2D/3D animated versions that didn't look recognisably like the real actresses I'm not sure they would. Actors don't own the rights to the characters they play, only their own image.
Disney retired the Slave Leia look for a reason.