Who or what has caused more damage to Superman's reputation among causal fans?

Who or what has caused more damage to Superman's reputation among causal fans?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    who dat on bottom right

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman himself, he's simply a loaded character that means a bunch of different things to a bunch of different people. These are all a symptom of his place in culture, not causes of it. Evil Superman is a natural pondering of "what if the ultimate force for good WASN'T?", the idea of being the peak of power naturally challengers contenders of the same role in different stories. Zack Snyder was riding the Gritty Realism train of Nolan and it's natural that it'd extend to Superman. And Bill is just Tarantino using pop culture like he always does to make a point.
    None of these things really warped the perception of Superman, they reflected what already existed.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much all adaptations are to blame for this happening to every character. The thing from Kill Bill is clever but I don't think most people who saw it think about that line much.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The one two punch of Injustice and Man of Steel, easily. one or the other would have been fine, both within a few years of each other was catastrophic.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      My brother-in-law sent me a page from Injustice today and I finally revealed my power level. I couldn't abide the sheer moronation of giant dick constructs from a lantern ring.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would say this but also adding New 52 redesign and muddled start on top of that and then BvS

      Really bad series of decisions from WB/DC but mostly WB

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man of Steel was unironically a great Superman movie. People harp on about le killing but forget how he was begging Zod to stop and completely broken up about it afterwards. It wasn't a dark turn but a more grounded take on the character and it'd have been interesting to see it fleshed out more. BvS and JL (both versions) were however steaming piles of dogshit.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        People harp on about le killing but forget the terrible pacing and bloated action scenes and the part where Pa Kent is an unreasonable moron who kills himself to teach his son a moral lesson that doesn't actually make sense

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >completely broken up about it afterwards.
        He proceeds to kill an african warlord at the beginning of his next movie. Don't give me this crap of "he learns the value of life after killing Zod ;_;" when he clearly doesn't give a shit unless it's his wienersleeve or mother.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >People harp on about le killing
        I harp on Superman killing civies by dragging Zods head across the middle of a skyscraper

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You cult minions really need to let this go. At first, you were able to convince a few normies to swallow your Kool-Aide but most everyone has been in agreement for at least three plus years that your Hack Cult was a mistake.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good morning sirs

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Add The Boys and Invincible on TV to this. Both are made by jaded hacks who think deconstruction and subversion make them Oscar tie.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cinemaphile

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Byrne.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Online discussion
    Death Battle
    >General image
    Zach Snyder
    You know how many tards still believe Goku is this benevolent figure who never lets anything get harmed (despite literally throwing fat Buu into a building of a populated city) and how Superman is this all-mighty being with no weaknesses whatsoever who'll tear through buildings just to punch one guy (despite valuing even the physical objects people care for)? Death Battle tarnished his rep to people who've never even heard of "All-Star Superman" or "Superman vs The Elite" so now all people think is that Superman faces no struggles and Zach Snyder made him look like a reckless wannabe messiah.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Death Battle had no fricking effect whatsoever. Synder did the most damage, followed by Injustice, followed by Kill Bill, and some irrelevant web show is solidly in last.

      The Death Battle thing is mostly about online discussions and power level bullshit, some people forget these are fictional characters.
      That said, there's also the idea that some people have that he's so strong that his stories are all bad, which is just dumb, I feel like some have gotten and spread that idea from Death Battle.

      Superman vs Goku predates Death Battle. Also its gokukeks that are obsessed with superman when he is not even the strongest character in comics.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        How to say that when in a Superman thread you are talking about Goku? This happens in all of Clark's threads.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Im talking about death battle and power scaling between the characters through the years not just superman.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't Buu fricking eat entire population of any city he came to? I don't remember Goku ever arriving before Buu.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, Anon is a moron. He forgot that the only reason he lets people die is because he can revive them later.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Goku didn't do that with the people Gero and 19 killed.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Death Battle had no fricking effect whatsoever. Synder did the most damage, followed by Injustice, followed by Kill Bill, and some irrelevant web show is solidly in last.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Death Battle thing is mostly about online discussions and power level bullshit, some people forget these are fictional characters.
      That said, there's also the idea that some people have that he's so strong that his stories are all bad, which is just dumb, I feel like some have gotten and spread that idea from Death Battle.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing wrong with the kill bill bit aside from the weird implication that superman has one artist like it's a manga or something. The point it's making is valid, Superman's alter-ego is reversed.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The entire point is that it's bullshit. Bill's point is that he's a villain who can't understand "lowering" yourself for others, so the only conclusion he can come to is that Superman must be mocking humanity. He doesn't understand Superman and he doesn't understand Beatrix, and he dies because he underestimated her.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Supermans's damaged reputation is link to Americas damaged reputation.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    None of the above. The MCU and other DC adaptations introduced new characters to audiences and Superman looked boring in comparison.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tie between Snyder and Injustice

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does death battle really harm his reputation when he keeps winning?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    no doubt about it
    Supermans mismanagement as a IP goes back all the way to 1983 when DC kicked Donner of his movies and Superman 3 and 4 got made

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Death Battle

    "Superman is limitless and lifted infinity. How can he possibly work in a video game?"

    No casual hates Superman because he killed Zod in Man of Steel. Iron Man kills all the time and they love him.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but Iron Man is supposed to be an butthole. That was always his character.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Iron Man throwing that terrorist to a mob wasn't meant to make you think Iron Man was the one in the wrong.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, but he was always a flawed hero.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not because he kills terrorists. No one dislikes him for that like they supposedly do Superman due to Man of Steel.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, but people treat Supernan differently.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's nothing flawed about killing terrorists

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

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    Lois sucks,but it gets better later when she is married to superman

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there still people who don't understand that Bill's speech about Superman isn't supposed to be "about" Superman, it's supposed to be about Bill?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      He is literally talking about Superman.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous
  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man of Steel was a great movie and if you don't agree you're a tastelet.

    Injustice is responsible for 99% of Superman's current perception.

    Jesus christ frick Injustice, frick tom taylor and frick modern DC

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the appeal of Superman?

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