Was he a clone of palpatine or some other monster? Where did he come from?
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Was he a clone of palpatine or some other monster? Where did he come from?
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Looks british
He was clearly meant to be plagius or however you spell it. Rian dabbed on everything though
>He was clearly meant to be plagius
is Knives In out yet?
>plagius
Who?
Palpy's master
That one was not named "plagius".
That image cements that he intentionally shit on the theories entirely for subversive reasons not because it was the best choice. Since everyone was speculating something big, he just goes with the worst explanation.
>not because it was the best choice.
But it WAS the best choice.
Frick Abrams and his artifical hype bullshit.
>"Your theory sucks"
>Doesn't tell his theory
Sigma male.
in Johnson's defense; Snoke as a character was established in TFA and created by Abrams and his inner circle of homosexualry.
Yeah it had an "e" in there somewhere. The original post in the chain mentioned his likely misspelling, more than likely due to not giving a shit about the conceptual non-character.
>In Johnson's defense; Snoke as a character was established in TFA and created by Abrams and his inner circle of homosexualry.
I don't see how that's a defense.
I mean he still accepted the job, sure, but I wouldn't put it on him as being responsible for the trilogy's writing.
He was probably involved with the dialogue, but the actual storyline/character? That has long been established as Abrams' and some other motherfricker whose name I can't recall. I.E. The producers of the trilogy.
i wonder why they didnt go with this? it seems almost anything wouldve been better with what we got(nothing). shit they still couldve done the stupid palpatine reveal even if they made snoke be plagueis
Snoke was supposed to be Plagueis. Rey was supposed to be Luke's daughter. There's so many hints to this in TFA and Rian just threw it all away because "frick your fan theory".
In fairness though, JJ still could have saved it. He could have had Snoke transfer his consciousness out of his body and made up some bullshit about why Luke was Rey's dad but didn't want to tell her.
There were no answers to any of JJ's mystery boxes and you just invented fan theories that catered to your own subjective tastes in Star Wars, which are familial revelations and hamfisted applause cameos from the EU and cartoons
There is sufficient evidence that Snoke/Plagueis was real. JJ had said that he wanted to make something that wrapped all 9 movies together. The musical cues could not have been an accident. Daisy Ridley almost said it out loud once, and a bunch of other small things that were pointing in that direction. The Rey being Luke's daughter thing is a lot more circumstantial but I still believe it was the intention.
You can't really shit on JJ for mystery boxes when it seemed pretty clear he was setting up the next guy elaborate on them and the next guy decided to just go lolfrickyouBlack person
>There is sufficient evidence that Snoke/Plagueis was real.
Hey there, MikeZeroh!
he was secretly Darth Evilmeany
He was a strandcast
A what?
He was a racist
>Was he a clone of palpatine
yes, that's the implication. He's clearly a moron though since he was just always a violent psychotic butthole. No clue why anyone would follow him. I can see why Palps was followed as he was legally the Chancellor and opposing him would be treason. And he's calm/nice to most people, even his minions. You could easily be beside Palps for a hearty evil laugh as you go over your plans. Of course he'll plot your own destruction, but that's off in the future. Snoke is just always endlessly abusing everyone around him.
Just one of Abrams' patented Mystery Boxes.
Time to move on already.
TLJ was so bad I didn’t even watch the last one
>In the book, it is revealed that Palpatine had discovered Plagueis' "secret to immortality", using this knowledge to resurrect himself after his death in Return of the Jedi
>You could easily be beside Palps for a hearty evil laugh
i dont know where bad guy of the week came from. i bet you could tell me. but don't please. scobie do villain's dont need backstorys
Has anyone tried to or successfully understood Bane's Rule of Two/JJ's Force Dyad?
A good story, for another time
>Vitiate, Cronal/Black, Sate Pestage, Jedi Librarian
Nobody, just like Rey
The strange thing is that he's overpowered and easily slapped around both Rey and Kylo, but the actual Palpatine himself got owned by Rey
They didn't know about the Dyad until Rise of Skywalker. That's quite literally the only explanation.
Don't ask me why she needed two lightsabers to reflect the lightning.
>The strange thing
>Implying there's only one.
Shit, wrong character.
He was supposed to be the Prime Jedi who appears in that mural on the floor in the cave in Ach-To. But then they chickened out and went with the boringest shittiest explanation possible.
He's Snoke
Darth Icky's son
The living embodiment of subverted expectations.
Snoke should have been one of Palpatine's advisors.
Also, the First Order and the Imperial Remnant should be separate factions or, at most, uneasy allies.
>The First Order are Dark Side acolytes and Palpatine loyalists who survived the destruction of the 2nd Death Star and the final stages of the Galactic Civil War. Snoke leads the First Order which is organized as a Dark Side cult venerating the Emperor and Darth Vader. Much of their goals focus on recovering lost Sith knowledge. Ben Solo was a promising student of Like Skywalker, but was turned by Snoke.
>The Imperial Remnant are made up of Admirals, Generals, Governors and Moffs who survived the war and reorganized under a military Junta. They are explicitly anti-Force user, light or dark side. They remember being under the yoke of Palpatine, Vader and their various Hands/Inquisitors and are determined to not be ruled in that way again. In addition to standard military units, they field specialized teams of highly trained and equipped, cybernetically enhanced commandos who can go toe-to-toe against members of the various Force-using sects that have sprung up after the dissolution of the Empire.
If Snoke and Kylo Ren MUST be integrated into the Imperial Remnant, it should be as conspiracy within the leadership. So only a few of the top members of the Imperial command structure know that their faction is actually being controlled by Dark Side force users. That means Snoke and his fellow Force users would have to be subtle about how they used their powers. No force chokes. But lots of mind tricks and sensing of intentions.
looks israeli
any setting for the sequels that takes place in the near future is already flawed, as it undermines the happy ending of the OT.
ehatever they wanted to tell should have been at least a century after ROTJ, but yeah, then they wouldn't be able to use the old cast for nostalgiabaaiting (maybe flashbacks?)
What happy ending? The jungle dance?
Could easily be a third death moon or whatever out there. Seeing an old timer get thrown down a ventilation shaft and some awkwardly pale motherfricker die because his suit has no defense against anything in his reality isn't really a happy ending.
I'm not trying to imply that 1-3 or 7-9 had any notable quality to them, but their failures don't make 4-6 any better. They're fricking awful, especially RotJ.
John Williams can't save shitty writing and editing.
And then they wasted the old cast anyway.
The love and success of EU shows that you're wrong. Directly after ROTJ is the most interesting point to start a new star wars story, not decades later and having them all be utter losers and failures. The EU had many faults, but for the most part was a satisfactory continuation of the story and characters. People who actually gave a shit about star wars just wanted to see the main characters be successful for a little while as they spend their efforts competently building a new galactic government and even starting families and relationships. I loved seeing Han be a respectable general and him and Leia starting an actual family with several kids. Plus Luke having a decent Jedi Academy and getting a girlfriend. I wouldn't give a shit about a new trilogy set a century later. It would just be a completely new franchise unconnected to star wars, and likely a reboot. And of course, fans would be forced to like whatever they came up with because hey, it's star wars right?
It's not bad writing simply because it hurts your feelings that the OT heroes faced adversity in middle age
>TLJ defenders somehow think he was acceptable as the boss villain
You do realize that JJ Abrams invented Snoke, right? Not Rian Johnson?
And that TLJ quite specifically killed him off because he was not "acceptable as the boss villain", right?
and what the frick was Rian's grand plan? To have another movie of Rey and Kylo running around flip flopping between wanting to kill/frick each other?
>To have another movie of Rey and Kylo running around flip flopping between wanting to kill/frick each other?
Obviously not. That part of the storyline was done, and an outright straight-up redemption arc (as Abrams did it) for Kylo was very much out of the cards, the way TLJ ended.
Its Darth Gollum