As someone that mildly like the Flintstones comic and started reading the rest of his work, he has the same tired shtick in every goddamn one and made me retroactively realize that the Flintstones comic was shit too.
Well, it's not completely wrong though.
In that comic the city folk went to the woods to fight folks living in trees.
Fred is not lying nor joking when he says that line.
>we’ll see it’s not wrong because the person writing it wrote some random bullshit war into their history just so that he could write that line so you see it was always there!
>random bullshit war into their history
History is full of random bullshit wars that no one will ever remember. Native Americans warred with each other for thousands of years before Europeans set foot on America, they just didn't write any of it down and killed their enemy to the last man.
Just because you write a reason for something to happen doesn't mean that's good writing, the reason should be good, there should be a good reason to add a genocide to the story
>we’ll see it’s not wrong because the person writing it wrote some random bullshit war into their history just so that he could write that line so you see it was always there!
have a nice day.
you know it's a comedic book, right? It's just a joke you absolute dumbass.
It’s not a joke though. What the frick are you talking about? It’s satire, not a joke. If it were a joke the “genocide” would be them eating 100 burgers and being like “we just commit genocide on that place. This is Russell satirizing modern america.
You don’t seem to know the difference and that’s on you. Satire can employ dark comedy as he did in the series with the suicide hotline but it also employs earnest critique which is what he’s doing by taking the male characters of flintstones and writing them as veterans who killed tree people unjustly - Russell regurgitating the old Carlin-ism that all America excels in is bombing brown people.
The funny thing about the HUAC is that the entertainment industry was factually being infiltrated by the Soviets, just like how they spent a shitload of money on bankrolling American anti-war efforts as part of their foreign policy strategy.
>we’ll see it’s not wrong because the person writing it wrote some random bullshit war into their history just so that he could write that line so you see it was always there!
get a sense of humor homosexual. Making Flinstones more adult is always funny. I laughed at the Winston Cigarettes ad. I laughed at the Sopranos version in Harvey Birdman. Stop kevetching
Cinemaphile jumps the gun and loves a lot of things when their new only to 180o on it later or when it's over. Look at the recent ducktales. It was all "wow this is awesome and way better than the stinky one from the 80s" at first and then it was "Man, that really didn't hold up. What did I see in it?".
That's kinda what I mean. This comic and nu duck is no different than the other water cooler shows like lost, battlestar galactica, the walking dead, and heros where the public jumps on it and makes it really popular very quickly, for one reason or another, only for the show to crap the bed in a season or 2 and the public abandons it. It even happened to game of thrones, though admittedly it took till the 8th season for that.
Game of Thrones was genuinely pretty great for the first few seasons. It just went to shit the more and more it deviated from the books which compounded with each successive season.
Cinemaphile jumps the gun and loves a lot of things when their new only to 180o on it later or when it's over. Look at the recent ducktales. It was all "wow this is awesome and way better than the stinky one from the 80s" at first and then it was "Man, that really didn't hold up. What did I see in it?".
Reminder that Cinemaphile loved this shit when it was coming out
>shills drum up a narrative that it’s beloved >use my phrase from the second storytime that “this is better than it has any right to be” >by issue 5 it’s mediocre >by issue 8 it’s insufferable >Jesse schedeen, among a swath of shills, literally uses my “better than it has any right to be” line >this means it didn’t go to shit
Look homosexual, it was good for the first few issues and then, as Russell is want to do, immediately shit all over himself.
Because it was good, nuCinemaphile are just humorless homosexuals who think acting offended by everything will get unfrickable zoomer shrews to blow them.
I also remember it being very popular here, and the storytime threads were very popular, too. If anything, Scooby Apocalypse was the one that quickly went to shit.
The comic was at its best when it was just emulating the original writing style. Like I can easily imagine this scene in the original cartoon complete with a laugh track.
That one was really fricked up than anything Ennis ever wrote. I know he wrote numerous rapes, like the one where the only sane person left on earth after every human killed themselves became a permanent sex slave to a pitbull, but even the black label Reptillian where it rapes and impregnates killer croc with Liam Sharp's Monetsque drawing seemed sane compare to Dastardly & Muttley.
That one was really fricked up than anything Ennis ever wrote. I know he wrote numerous rapes, like the one where the only sane person left on earth after every human killed themselves became a permanent sex slave to a pitbull, but even the black label Reptillian where it rapes and impregnates killer croc with Liam Sharp's Monetsque drawing seemed sane compare to Dastardly & Muttley.
You two are strange people. I thought it would be amazing, but it fricking sucked ass. They did nothing with the concept.
When the frick was the last DC/Hanna Barbera storytime?
I searched old Flintstones storytime threads and most of the replies are positive. So I don't know where the "Cinemaphile hates Flintstones comic" meme came from
It's one of those things that's pleasing on the surface level but once you let it mull around for a bit people will start to realize just how empty it really is.
It was a fun take that works for a short run. It works because its so out of place with what the Flintstones was. I mean you can't run with it forever because then it just becomes another dark and edgy take, but PTSD and a melancholic job on what has previously been a purely comical setting? Its funny in its own way.
It's a bunch of zoomer gays trying way too hard to fit in and since everyone tells them Cinemaphile is "le epic far right boogeyman" website they're lashing out at random things they think are woke without a single shred of nuance.
I swear back in the day you had the moral majority types raining on everyone's parade, then the sjw homosexuals were shrieking bloody murder at everything for a decade and change and now with this current wave of conservative overcorrection and the surviving left wingers we have to deal with stupid in stereo. Why is the idea of a happy medium so fricking elusive?
Can't people just enjoy shit without trying to dictate their tastes to everyone else?
What? Why the frick should I feel the need to defend ANY comic? Is this some weird ettingville shit?
I was rewatching Flintstones on Tubi a month ago and it's still legitimately funny, at least the first few seasons. You don't need to try as hard as this to make it satire, and a lot of the satirical elements of the old show still hold up.
Yeah, Flintstones is legitimately a great show and holds up. Especially those first seasons, but I still enjoy later episodes too.
Americans who think they can have their cake and eat it. Yeah, your ancestors slaughtered innocents so you could have peace and resources. Now either give up those blood comforts or enjoy them and quite b***hing.
I was rewatching Flintstones on Tubi a month ago and it's still legitimately funny, at least the first few seasons. You don't need to try as hard as this to make it satire, and a lot of the satirical elements of the old show still hold up.
I don't remember teen Pebbles or Bam-Bam, but I thought the Great Gazoo was funny as a little kid.
I was really surprised to learn many years later that the Flintstones was intended to be an adult cartoon.
Glad to see people catching up and turning on hacks like Russell.
Unfortunately, some of you are probably ensnared by some recent hack and don't realize it.
Fred was in the wrong.
His logic that it was genocide was that the invading army brought their families with them.
What he (and Mark Russell) forget was that in ancient times, when invading armies brought their families with them, it was because they intended to push out or wipe out the current population and settle there in their place.
>Wasn't the point to stop them at the border?
No, it was just to get rid of them, the "invading army" was just a bunch of people living on trees, in the same issue there's another "invading army" coming to bedrock if I recall correctly
I thought it was C+ B-. If you're sick of Russel's sthick, you will hate the frick out of it. He's trying to channel Transmet, but not quite hitting it. But who else is even in the running there?. Also, since the release and now, politics is somewhat different. Covid + Donald Trump so what seems nuts doesn't seem as nuts anymore.
>If you're sick of Russel's sthick
That was my first exposure to him so I loved it. What did he even write before that? I think the Flintstones came later.
How would you even describe his shtick? It's like he always uses that same sort of "nuggets of wisdom" type of narration over everything, that's the best way I can put it to words.
Glib, loose, pro gay, humanistic. Anti rich, anti corporate, anti conservative. Over the top riddiclous satires making fun of commercialisim.
>If you're sick of Russel's sthick
That was my first exposure to him so I loved it. What did he even write before that? I think the Flintstones came later.
I think that's his first. His first major anyways.
Well that of course, I mean his tendency to use the same sort of framing device of a lecturing narration over a scene. It's a lot more egregious with Billionaire Island.
This comic went to shit faster than it had any right to. Mark Russell is a fricking hack.
I will never forgive that issue where the whole point was "MEN BAD"
huh?
men have always been stupid in the Flinstones though...
>non-breeders looked after our kids
As someone that mildly like the Flintstones comic and started reading the rest of his work, he has the same tired shtick in every goddamn one and made me retroactively realize that the Flintstones comic was shit too.
A lot like king in that regard. Just a more comedic kind of one trick pony.
Pretty much, yes. I have the same opinion about King and Omega Men/Vision for that very reason.
Flinstones is now too triggering for nu groyper Cinemaphile. Sad, we enjoyed it as it came out, well before your time.
Those Flintstones storytimes were great. I miss them.
>buzzword salad
Relax, election tourist.
What? The comic was fantastic.
Mark Russell is kinda hacky though. Snagglepuss had a similar tone.
Prez was fun though.
can you put this quote on the side of the vitamin bottle
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say whoever decided to put the word "genocide" in a fricking Flintstones comic was in the wrong.
Well, it's not completely wrong though.
In that comic the city folk went to the woods to fight folks living in trees.
Fred is not lying nor joking when he says that line.
>we’ll see it’s not wrong because the person writing it wrote some random bullshit war into their history just so that he could write that line so you see it was always there!
have a nice day.
Yeah frick you too man.
>random bullshit war into their history
History is full of random bullshit wars that no one will ever remember. Native Americans warred with each other for thousands of years before Europeans set foot on America, they just didn't write any of it down and killed their enemy to the last man.
Just because you write a reason for something to happen doesn't mean that's good writing, the reason should be good, there should be a good reason to add a genocide to the story
>t. I’m too stupid to get how the world works
>thus I am too stupid to recognise a satire of it
just because you wrote satire doesnt mean you wrote good satire
this came out as superficial and pompuos because it doesnt come from an hones place
>There were tree people
If that's not a good reason for a genocide then I don't know what is.
you know it's a comedic book, right? It's just a joke you absolute dumbass.
A bad comedian doesn't tell jokes
Wrong Norm Macdonald told bad jokes all the time and he was hilarious for it.
Wrong. Norm told good jokes disguised as bad jokes. Plus I never said anything about bad jokes. I said bad comedians don't tell jokes.
Genocide is a joke? Bet you wouldn't have felt that way if it said rape instead of genocide.
I would've
No. You idiots always cry when rape is used in comics.
made me laugh, thanks
it is a joke if it was made by Fred fricking Flintstone
Why not? rape jokes can be fricking hilarious
psst, genocide is a no-no now because certain a ~~*tribe*~~ is currently under scrutiny for doing it on a certain desert people.
It’s not a joke though. What the frick are you talking about? It’s satire, not a joke. If it were a joke the “genocide” would be them eating 100 burgers and being like “we just commit genocide on that place. This is Russell satirizing modern america.
You don’t seem to know the difference and that’s on you. Satire can employ dark comedy as he did in the series with the suicide hotline but it also employs earnest critique which is what he’s doing by taking the male characters of flintstones and writing them as veterans who killed tree people unjustly - Russell regurgitating the old Carlin-ism that all America excels in is bombing brown people.
Completely BTFO
Jokes are supposed to be FUNNY anon.
The one where Snagglepuss has to go in front of the HUAC was better
The funny thing about the HUAC is that the entertainment industry was factually being infiltrated by the Soviets, just like how they spent a shitload of money on bankrolling American anti-war efforts as part of their foreign policy strategy.
moron
They're a modern stone age family with all the ennui and regret that comes with it.
get a sense of humor homosexual. Making Flinstones more adult is always funny. I laughed at the Winston Cigarettes ad. I laughed at the Sopranos version in Harvey Birdman. Stop kevetching
Reminder that Cinemaphile loved this shit when it was coming out
Cinemaphile jumps the gun and loves a lot of things when their new only to 180o on it later or when it's over. Look at the recent ducktales. It was all "wow this is awesome and way better than the stinky one from the 80s" at first and then it was "Man, that really didn't hold up. What did I see in it?".
To be fair, nuTales started okay and got bad near the end.
That's not the same thing really. NuTales S1 was really good, with an interesting overarching mystery. The following seasons are the bad ones.
That's kinda what I mean. This comic and nu duck is no different than the other water cooler shows like lost, battlestar galactica, the walking dead, and heros where the public jumps on it and makes it really popular very quickly, for one reason or another, only for the show to crap the bed in a season or 2 and the public abandons it. It even happened to game of thrones, though admittedly it took till the 8th season for that.
Game of Thrones was genuinely pretty great for the first few seasons. It just went to shit the more and more it deviated from the books which compounded with each successive season.
And it’s still good, regardless of Cinemaphilentrarian homosexuals who have since found nothing better to do than have a sook on it.
>shills drum up a narrative that it’s beloved
>use my phrase from the second storytime that “this is better than it has any right to be”
>by issue 5 it’s mediocre
>by issue 8 it’s insufferable
>Jesse schedeen, among a swath of shills, literally uses my “better than it has any right to be” line
>this means it didn’t go to shit
Look homosexual, it was good for the first few issues and then, as Russell is want to do, immediately shit all over himself.
Thanks gay, was at a loose end for getting some compressed R&R in, you’ve reminded me can reread these.
>2 medium TPBs
>because the tail was soft the whole must go in the bin!
Ps, it’s “wont to do”.
Mark Russell.
And they were wrong for it, like they were for praising Tom King.
Storytimes have only like 5 fricking participants tops. Once these pages went outside of those they were ridiculed.
It was good, and still holds up. There's just a few bits like the on in OP or the anti-gay one that get a bit cringe.
I liked it and still liked it. Second coming was good. His superman was passable. So was the prez reboot.
I didn't like snagglepus, or one star squadron.. Didn't read the wonder twins or Billionare island. or his fantastic four, or not all robots. .
The only good one was Batman and Elmer Fudd. And maybe Jonah Hex/Yosemite Sam.
Daffy/Lex and Joker was aight
Martian Manhunter/Marvin the Martian was kino too
i've actually heard good things about the porky pig/ lex luthor one. I think the only one i hated was Wonder Woman/Tasmanian Devil
Those were easily the best two, but I enjoed Aquaman/Jabberjaw well enough. And I fricking hated Jabberjaw as a kid.
me and my friends get no respect
Because it was good, nuCinemaphile are just humorless homosexuals who think acting offended by everything will get unfrickable zoomer shrews to blow them.
Yeah this thread confused me, I remember everyone loving it back then and I enjoy every reread. Did /misc/ kill Cinemaphile?
I also remember it being very popular here, and the storytime threads were very popular, too. If anything, Scooby Apocalypse was the one that quickly went to shit.
Yeah, the scooby one was pretty bad. Cool premise at least. iirc I think the pink panther one was the other well liked one
It could've had potential, but they killed off Fred.
Nah, I always thought it stunk.
I was in the story time for the gay issue and 100% people complained about in int the thread itself.
People also cried about Bambam not being Barney's kid
>People also cried about Bambam not being Barney's kid
What? He's not even Barney's biological kid in the original show, who gives a frick
Them is obvious, but they couldn't know, is not like there was a tree kid with them like they have with bam bam
The comic was at its best when it was just emulating the original writing style. Like I can easily imagine this scene in the original cartoon complete with a laugh track.
I liked Dastardly & Muttley better.
That one was really fricked up than anything Ennis ever wrote. I know he wrote numerous rapes, like the one where the only sane person left on earth after every human killed themselves became a permanent sex slave to a pitbull, but even the black label Reptillian where it rapes and impregnates killer croc with Liam Sharp's Monetsque drawing seemed sane compare to Dastardly & Muttley.
Theres' at least 3 different what the fricks in this post that from comics I clearly missed.
Need a source on the pitbull one. Too wtf to believe thre.
>Need a source on the pitbull one.
Rover Red Charlie. Basically imagine Morrison's WE3 but all your favorite Ennis tropes.
You two are strange people. I thought it would be amazing, but it fricking sucked ass. They did nothing with the concept.
The readers for thinking this garbage was a masterpiece I can't even read it with a straight face
>We participated in a genocide yaba Dabba doo
When the frick was the last DC/Hanna Barbera storytime?
I searched old Flintstones storytime threads and most of the replies are positive. So I don't know where the "Cinemaphile hates Flintstones comic" meme came from
It's one of those things that's pleasing on the surface level but once you let it mull around for a bit people will start to realize just how empty it really is.
Like a Batman comic.
It was a fun take that works for a short run. It works because its so out of place with what the Flintstones was. I mean you can't run with it forever because then it just becomes another dark and edgy take, but PTSD and a melancholic job on what has previously been a purely comical setting? Its funny in its own way.
>When the frick was the last DC/Hanna Barbera storytime?
Years. I definitely don't remember anons shitting on it in thread.
It's a bunch of zoomer gays trying way too hard to fit in and since everyone tells them Cinemaphile is "le epic far right boogeyman" website they're lashing out at random things they think are woke without a single shred of nuance.
I swear back in the day you had the moral majority types raining on everyone's parade, then the sjw homosexuals were shrieking bloody murder at everything for a decade and change and now with this current wave of conservative overcorrection and the surviving left wingers we have to deal with stupid in stereo. Why is the idea of a happy medium so fricking elusive?
Can't people just enjoy shit without trying to dictate their tastes to everyone else?
I LOVE THAT COMIC
but
I WILL NOT DEFEND IT
any anon who hates it, is right
What? Why the frick should I feel the need to defend ANY comic? Is this some weird ettingville shit?
Yeah, but who's writing like THAT right now?
Americans who think they can have their cake and eat it. Yeah, your ancestors slaughtered innocents so you could have peace and resources. Now either give up those blood comforts or enjoy them and quite b***hing.
>Americans who think they can have their cake and eat it
Isn't that the principle that America was founded on?
Mark Russell for his every hamfisted deconstruction/satire he's done.
THEY HIT THE PENTAGON!!!!
I was rewatching Flintstones on Tubi a month ago and it's still legitimately funny, at least the first few seasons. You don't need to try as hard as this to make it satire, and a lot of the satirical elements of the old show still hold up.
Yeah, Flintstones is legitimately a great show and holds up. Especially those first seasons, but I still enjoy later episodes too.
What was different in later seasons?
Flintsones ran a LONG LONG time. Very late, you had teen pebbles and bam bam, captain caveman, and the poochie that's the great gazoo.
At the very least, shockingly different.
I don't remember teen Pebbles or Bam-Bam, but I thought the Great Gazoo was funny as a little kid.
I was really surprised to learn many years later that the Flintstones was intended to be an adult cartoon.
For one, they added a bunch of characters like
said. The early seasons didn't even have Pebbles and Bam Bam (or the famous theme song). It felt like it got more kid focused later on.
This dialogue is terrible. Fred would never say something like that.
Glad to see people catching up and turning on hacks like Russell.
Unfortunately, some of you are probably ensnared by some recent hack and don't realize it.
Fred was in the wrong.
His logic that it was genocide was that the invading army brought their families with them.
What he (and Mark Russell) forget was that in ancient times, when invading armies brought their families with them, it was because they intended to push out or wipe out the current population and settle there in their place.
>His logic that it was genocide was that the invading army brought their families with them.
Fred's platoon were the invading army anon
That's not how I recall it, but it's been a while. Wasn't the point to stop them at the border?
>Wasn't the point to stop them at the border?
No, it was just to get rid of them, the "invading army" was just a bunch of people living on trees, in the same issue there's another "invading army" coming to bedrock if I recall correctly
Some of the sand people plot made me seethe but the rest was good. Not reading the superhero part tho
Is Prez good?
I thought it was C+ B-. If you're sick of Russel's sthick, you will hate the frick out of it. He's trying to channel Transmet, but not quite hitting it. But who else is even in the running there?. Also, since the release and now, politics is somewhat different. Covid + Donald Trump so what seems nuts doesn't seem as nuts anymore.
>If you're sick of Russel's sthick
That was my first exposure to him so I loved it. What did he even write before that? I think the Flintstones came later.
How would you even describe his shtick? It's like he always uses that same sort of "nuggets of wisdom" type of narration over everything, that's the best way I can put it to words.
Glib, loose, pro gay, humanistic. Anti rich, anti corporate, anti conservative. Over the top riddiclous satires making fun of commercialisim.
I think that's his first. His first major anyways.
Well that of course, I mean his tendency to use the same sort of framing device of a lecturing narration over a scene. It's a lot more egregious with Billionaire Island.
OP for making a homosexual template thread.
I wonder if Simon Stålenhag was influenced by Sandow Birk. Getting a very similar vibe.
What’s this from?
i assume Dante's Inferno
Anyone got the Adam and Steve part from that comic? I really liked it.
Frick yall I liked it.
>YABBA DABBA DOOO
>fred said calmly as he clubbed another baby
>Cinemaphile hates Flintstones now
For Gerald's sakes
Cinemaphile hates everything.