lmao, a tale of 2 directors >He said WHAT? He's a washed up hack! >Oh he's kind of a legend so he gets to say that. I hope he's not talking about me though haha
I can't possibly figure out why Snyder's cast and crews all love him...
Snyder is in the right. Despite him being an actual teenager trapped in an adult body, I get a really chill, polite vibe from the guy, more than from most people working in movies
Marty obviously wasn’t talking about Snyder. I don’t know why everyone extrapolates his comments on Marvel flicks to all superhero movies (and sometimes even all blockbuster). He explicitly mentioned Marvel.
>Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control
Pegg >Embracing of unambiguously childrens characters indicates a retreat from the overwhelming complexities of modern existence
Moore >Fans dont wanna admit SW is for children, get upset about being childlike
Lucas >A 12yo boy had seen SW over a 100 times: I said can you promise never to see it again? He burst into tears. I hope the lad, now in his 30s, isnt living in a fantasy world of childish banalities
Guinness >SW created the big-budget comics mentality, ate the heart & the soul of Hollywood
Schrader >Superheroes flying around in spandex saving the world are fine for children, children of all ages btw, but its not for me
Friedkin >I read comics when I was a kid, now I prefer adult oriented stuff
Eastwood >Became an elevated art form? Its still Batman running around in a stupid cape. Its for kids, adolescent in its core
Cronenberg >Action without human beings. A 1st in film history. Kids used to be able to learn how a man should act by watching films. Morals. Comics= heroes for businesses
McTiernan >I hope we get Avenger fatigue. There are other stories to tell
Cameron >Superman Vs Spiderman, Vs Iron Man… I cant believe people are paying for this shit
Verhoeven >Spandex must cost a lot. Baffling
Gibson >Superman makes me vomit. That empire, religion. So important that superheroes suffer… I dont give a damn, I shit on the US
Jodorowsky >Hate em. Theyre bullshit. Grow up
Gilliam >SW & Superman have nothing to do with art
Tarkovsky >Theyre punishment
Ceylan >Theyre hamburgers
Loach >Poison, cultural genocide. Plot & explosions & shit that means nothing about human experience
Iñárritu >Not cinema
Scorsese >Despicable
Coppola >Theyre made for kids!
DePalma >X-Man is for 14yo boys!
Altman >Theyre going to date very badly
Bogdanovich >Dull
Fincher >I had to escape!
Noé >Otakus: humans who cant stand looking at other humans
Miyazaki
>Superheroes flying around in spandex saving the world are fine for children, children of all ages btw, but its not for me
its depressing how most of the big films these days are made for children
Notice how most of these talk about human experience and being for kids. It's called entertainment. Bunch of pretentious morons honestly. Just because a movie doesn't have some deep emotional meaning or try to portray a realistic world doesn't mean it's bad. These old homosexuals need to just shut the frick up and let people watch what they want.
you zoomer brained capeshit apologists have been forcefed and coonsooming this garbage for so long already you can't even imagine there's other possibilities in between "deep pretentious human realism" and "capeshit for low iq third world children"
you will remain a perpetual manchild, you're "emotionally subnormal" to quote the wizard moore
you can only imagine that a normal brain getting tired of this lowest common denominator garbage for toddlers monopolizing the entire industry must mean he's "jealous" instead of just annoyed and exhausted
it's why anyone with half a brain hates you capeshit consuming cattle Black folk
Fricking Synder, the fricking ego on that guy, no wonder his daughter offed herself, can you imagine growing up with your dad being a person like that?
even if there were the tulsa massacre the Black folk got it coming. history has proven every single anti-Black person person RIGHT. statistically Black folk committed 1000 violent crimes against whites today as we speak
it's not but it's tied in with the main story. the tulsa shit is in the move. scorsese literally said he didn't know about it until 2020 kek. le summer of love and all that jazz. seriously it's all so easy to check there are multiple cannes premiere interviews online
did you ever read a scorsese interview? he's incredibly bluepilled. almost every filmmaker is. Hollywood is the inherent bastion of liberalism. all the filmmakers simply make movies about the latest current day dnc media talking points. i.e. check any random scorsese interview from the 70s.
t. researcher
pretty sure Mary wasn't talking about Snyder, he's not even worth talking about, like the autistic kid trying to get the biggest stick possible at the playground, every normal person sees him, but they cringe and chose to pretend to ignore it
frick troony gunn. that being said sneeder's last effort is army of the dead kek. and he literally cast the they/them demon as a heroic they/them character for his upcoming scifi drivel kek
Both are true. Scorsese was right about everything he said about capeshit. Snyder is right on acknowledging it`s an informed opinion from a master of the craft but it is also true that Scorsese used the controversy as a publicity stunt.
Controversy has always been part of America`s marketing strategies ever since Griffith made The birth of a nation. The movie depicted the KKK as the heroes and used white actors with their faces painted with shoe polish as the black characters. It was absolutely outrageous and controversial and obviously made bank. Home TV sets were 15 years away and rentals were like 50 or so... so a lot of people watched it several times on cinemas.
And then the madman made his second movie which he motherfrickingly titled "Intolerance". So you see... the tactic is almost as old as cinema itself.
>It was absolutely outrageous and controversial
It wasnt. You are applying sensibilities that only came to be 100 years after the fact. NO one gave a shit about white men doing black roles, til literally 20 years ago.
>And then the madman made his second movie which he motherfrickingly titled "Intolerance".
The funniest thing about that is that he said he named it that because people were being intolerant of him due to Birth of a Nation. Griffith had balls the size of fricking coconuts, what an absolute mad lad he was.
>it is also true that Scorsese used the controversy as a publicity stunt
How exactly did he do that? He was asked about superhero movies and simply gave his honest opinion, same as these directors:
>Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control
Pegg >Embracing of unambiguously childrens characters indicates a retreat from the overwhelming complexities of modern existence
Moore >Fans dont wanna admit SW is for children, get upset about being childlike
Lucas >A 12yo boy had seen SW over a 100 times: I said can you promise never to see it again? He burst into tears. I hope the lad, now in his 30s, isnt living in a fantasy world of childish banalities
Guinness >SW created the big-budget comics mentality, ate the heart & the soul of Hollywood
Schrader >Superheroes flying around in spandex saving the world are fine for children, children of all ages btw, but its not for me
Friedkin >I read comics when I was a kid, now I prefer adult oriented stuff
Eastwood >Became an elevated art form? Its still Batman running around in a stupid cape. Its for kids, adolescent in its core
Cronenberg >Action without human beings. A 1st in film history. Kids used to be able to learn how a man should act by watching films. Morals. Comics= heroes for businesses
McTiernan >I hope we get Avenger fatigue. There are other stories to tell
Cameron >Superman Vs Spiderman, Vs Iron Man… I cant believe people are paying for this shit
Verhoeven >Spandex must cost a lot. Baffling
Gibson >Superman makes me vomit. That empire, religion. So important that superheroes suffer… I dont give a damn, I shit on the US
Jodorowsky >Hate em. Theyre bullshit. Grow up
Gilliam >SW & Superman have nothing to do with art
Tarkovsky >Theyre punishment
Ceylan >Theyre hamburgers
Loach >Poison, cultural genocide. Plot & explosions & shit that means nothing about human experience
Iñárritu >Not cinema
Scorsese >Despicable
Coppola >Theyre made for kids!
DePalma >X-Man is for 14yo boys!
Altman >Theyre going to date very badly
Bogdanovich >Dull
Fincher >I had to escape!
Noé >Otakus: humans who cant stand looking at other humans
Miyazaki
It is not like he went out of his way to talk about superhero movies.
Yes, many great directors and authors spoke in a similar fashion but he was still given the most coverage and attention. Attention he (or his movie marketing team) could capitalize to make people aware of the project he was working on.
It's Martin Scorsese. The idea that a new film of his wouldn't get any attention is hilarious. Just say he's a washed up old man who doesn't understand capeshit because saying he's using Marvel because he doesn't get attention is ridiculous cope
This gay Black person made Hugo and is trying to act like cinema was never about the expetacle for commom folks. Also it's not like people aren't making artistical movies anymore, they just don't reach as many people.
A lack of respect for people who have achieved far more than you and for your elders in general speaks volumes about a person's character. As if James Gunn's decision to style himself like some kind of cartoon paedophile wasn't clue enough.
Capeshit isn't art, but not every movie is art. I don't know why they get so butthurt. A corporate product made to shill lunchboxes and Happy Meal toys or fill a lineup slot on a streaming service release calender isn't art. Anything with test screenings and focus groups isn't art. It's just objective.
But, that's fine. Not everything is art. I like some stuff that isn't art. It's okay to like some trash. But, you've gotta expand those horizons.And most of these capeshit consoomers just never wanna do that.
Its ok if you like super hero movies but if you cannot admit they are a low form of entertainment, lower than any other type of film, then you're a delusional homosexual
lmao, a tale of 2 directors
>He said WHAT? He's a washed up hack!
>Oh he's kind of a legend so he gets to say that. I hope he's not talking about me though haha
I can't possibly figure out why Snyder's cast and crews all love him...
>insecure stuck up c**t
vs
>stuck up c**t too stupid to understand criticism
yeah I guess the first one is much more of a pain in the ass
>getting this buttblasted at Snyder just being chill
kek
the only one buttblasted here is you, sneeder pajeet
>no u
Reminds me of when those south park guys were seething about Paris Hilton laughing off their depiction of her.
FPBP
Baste
Gunn for being a corporate b***h. Snyder being a moron is just what it is, Gunn made a choice.
oh no no no no gunn sisters....
I remember when James Gunn was begging his fans to vote for The Suicide Squad to win the Fan Favorite Oscar thing. I wish i had saved the tweets.
Snyder is in the right. Despite him being an actual teenager trapped in an adult body, I get a really chill, polite vibe from the guy, more than from most people working in movies
What about him is like a teenager?
His teenlike innocence and approach to moviemaking
Just look at any of his interviews
>he was talking about the other ones
How kino can a kinomaster be?
least Snyder has a sense of humor about it
Marty obviously wasn’t talking about Snyder. I don’t know why everyone extrapolates his comments on Marvel flicks to all superhero movies (and sometimes even all blockbuster). He explicitly mentioned Marvel.
he's an old man, to him all capeshit = marvel
Nice projection but he was going to be a producer for Joker. He clearly knows the difference.
Lol he said he wouldnt watch Joker because it would be pointless.
So he knows the difference after all.
Scorsese also refused to watch Sopranos. Him not wanting to watch something doesn’t mean it’s bad.
>Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control
Pegg
>Embracing of unambiguously childrens characters indicates a retreat from the overwhelming complexities of modern existence
Moore
>Fans dont wanna admit SW is for children, get upset about being childlike
Lucas
>A 12yo boy had seen SW over a 100 times: I said can you promise never to see it again? He burst into tears. I hope the lad, now in his 30s, isnt living in a fantasy world of childish banalities
Guinness
>SW created the big-budget comics mentality, ate the heart & the soul of Hollywood
Schrader
>Superheroes flying around in spandex saving the world are fine for children, children of all ages btw, but its not for me
Friedkin
>I read comics when I was a kid, now I prefer adult oriented stuff
Eastwood
>Became an elevated art form? Its still Batman running around in a stupid cape. Its for kids, adolescent in its core
Cronenberg
>Action without human beings. A 1st in film history. Kids used to be able to learn how a man should act by watching films. Morals. Comics= heroes for businesses
McTiernan
>I hope we get Avenger fatigue. There are other stories to tell
Cameron
>Superman Vs Spiderman, Vs Iron Man… I cant believe people are paying for this shit
Verhoeven
>Spandex must cost a lot. Baffling
Gibson
>Superman makes me vomit. That empire, religion. So important that superheroes suffer… I dont give a damn, I shit on the US
Jodorowsky
>Hate em. Theyre bullshit. Grow up
Gilliam
>SW & Superman have nothing to do with art
Tarkovsky
>Theyre punishment
Ceylan
>Theyre hamburgers
Loach
>Poison, cultural genocide. Plot & explosions & shit that means nothing about human experience
Iñárritu
>Not cinema
Scorsese
>Despicable
Coppola
>Theyre made for kids!
DePalma
>X-Man is for 14yo boys!
Altman
>Theyre going to date very badly
Bogdanovich
>Dull
Fincher
>I had to escape!
Noé
>Otakus: humans who cant stand looking at other humans
Miyazaki
The Gaspar Noé comments were specifically about Black Panther’s Black music lmao
Herzog watches WWE and the kardashians and says it's ''a poetic responsability for artists'' I love that man
I get what theyre trying to say but they sound too butthurt for me to take them seriously.
gaspar noe is a talentless argentinian hack parading as a frenchman
Maybe but he’s right.
>youngest of the bunch is 53
Their kids are gonna pull the plug on lifesupport at earliest notice aren't they
>Superheroes flying around in spandex saving the world are fine for children, children of all ages btw, but its not for me
its depressing how most of the big films these days are made for children
Notice how most of these talk about human experience and being for kids. It's called entertainment. Bunch of pretentious morons honestly. Just because a movie doesn't have some deep emotional meaning or try to portray a realistic world doesn't mean it's bad. These old homosexuals need to just shut the frick up and let people watch what they want.
you zoomer brained capeshit apologists have been forcefed and coonsooming this garbage for so long already you can't even imagine there's other possibilities in between "deep pretentious human realism" and "capeshit for low iq third world children"
you will remain a perpetual manchild, you're "emotionally subnormal" to quote the wizard moore
you can only imagine that a normal brain getting tired of this lowest common denominator garbage for toddlers monopolizing the entire industry must mean he's "jealous" instead of just annoyed and exhausted
it's why anyone with half a brain hates you capeshit consuming cattle Black folk
The Lucas quote was from Alec Guiness, and aside from him, Herzog, Eastwood & Gibson they're all a bunch of narcissists
but you didn't say they're wrong
Loads of these guys are on the money, but Inarritu is so far up his own ass it's impossible to take the guy seriously.
It’s meaningless cultural poison. He’s right.
To reply like that, it means that scorsese's words definetly hit a nerve for gunn, what an insecure b***h
Pointless argument. The DC director who handled criticism with the most dignity and least homosexualry was ironically Schumacher
Fricking Synder, the fricking ego on that guy, no wonder his daughter offed herself, can you imagine growing up with your dad being a person like that?
calm down James. your superman movie will flop
I don't like Zack Snyder's movies but he seems like a good shit.
Marty just has capeshit fatigue like any other sane person. If they weren't constantly being cranked out then he probably wouldn't give a shit.
I used to have capeshit fatigue…
…now I have GOYSLOP EXHAUSTION!
Gunn deserves to die and Snyder deserves to look live.
I don't particularly like Snyder's films but there's never been any doubt that he's awesome.
Marty bent the knee, the new movie is anti white
It’s just history. Sorry it bothers you.
nothing about le tulsa massacre is the actual history
Yikes.
>I don't like the idea of something therefore it's not true.
Maybe we take are living in a post-truth epoch.
even if there were the tulsa massacre the Black folk got it coming. history has proven every single anti-Black person person RIGHT. statistically Black folk committed 1000 violent crimes against whites today as we speak
His movie is not about the Tulsa massacre.
it's not but it's tied in with the main story. the tulsa shit is in the move. scorsese literally said he didn't know about it until 2020 kek. le summer of love and all that jazz. seriously it's all so easy to check there are multiple cannes premiere interviews online
did you ever read a scorsese interview? he's incredibly bluepilled. almost every filmmaker is. Hollywood is the inherent bastion of liberalism. all the filmmakers simply make movies about the latest current day dnc media talking points. i.e. check any random scorsese interview from the 70s.
t. researcher
>it’s not redpilled if I disagree with it.
name ONE redpilles scorsese take. other than israelites being sleazy demons as in goodfellas and casino
Just because his movies lack explicit redpills, doesn’t mean they were explicitly bluepilled either.
pretty sure Mary wasn't talking about Snyder, he's not even worth talking about, like the autistic kid trying to get the biggest stick possible at the playground, every normal person sees him, but they cringe and chose to pretend to ignore it
nice try but his buddies nolan, cameron and tarantino have spoken highly of him
BTFO Capeshitters still seething.
frick troony gunn. that being said sneeder's last effort is army of the dead kek. and he literally cast the they/them demon as a heroic they/them character for his upcoming scifi drivel kek
Both are true. Scorsese was right about everything he said about capeshit. Snyder is right on acknowledging it`s an informed opinion from a master of the craft but it is also true that Scorsese used the controversy as a publicity stunt.
Controversy has always been part of America`s marketing strategies ever since Griffith made The birth of a nation. The movie depicted the KKK as the heroes and used white actors with their faces painted with shoe polish as the black characters. It was absolutely outrageous and controversial and obviously made bank. Home TV sets were 15 years away and rentals were like 50 or so... so a lot of people watched it several times on cinemas.
And then the madman made his second movie which he motherfrickingly titled "Intolerance". So you see... the tactic is almost as old as cinema itself.
>It was absolutely outrageous and controversial
It wasnt. You are applying sensibilities that only came to be 100 years after the fact. NO one gave a shit about white men doing black roles, til literally 20 years ago.
Oh but it was. There were protest trying to ban the film and all that. The black community certainly perceived the film as harmful.
>And then the madman made his second movie which he motherfrickingly titled "Intolerance".
The funniest thing about that is that he said he named it that because people were being intolerant of him due to Birth of a Nation. Griffith had balls the size of fricking coconuts, what an absolute mad lad he was.
>it is also true that Scorsese used the controversy as a publicity stunt
How exactly did he do that? He was asked about superhero movies and simply gave his honest opinion, same as these directors:
It is not like he went out of his way to talk about superhero movies.
Thats true people shouldnt be directing their hate towards Martin. Netflix pays for the headlines.
Yes, many great directors and authors spoke in a similar fashion but he was still given the most coverage and attention. Attention he (or his movie marketing team) could capitalize to make people aware of the project he was working on.
there is no reason for kotfm to cost 200 million
Snyder’s a class act.
It's Martin Scorsese. The idea that a new film of his wouldn't get any attention is hilarious. Just say he's a washed up old man who doesn't understand capeshit because saying he's using Marvel because he doesn't get attention is ridiculous cope
This gay Black person made Hugo and is trying to act like cinema was never about the expetacle for commom folks. Also it's not like people aren't making artistical movies anymore, they just don't reach as many people.
how did silence fare? i mean it came right after the wolf, it starred spider-man, kylo ren and qui-gon, must've made BANK!
Too Christian for the israelites to promote
that didn't stop the passion from being a phemomenon
Different time.
There was literally zero marketing. They put out the first trailer like a month before release and didn’t put it up for any awards.
Didn't Gunn say The Flash was one of the best superhero movies of all time?
"probably", he said "probably".
>James Gunn
Seethe
>Snyder
Cope
A lack of respect for people who have achieved far more than you and for your elders in general speaks volumes about a person's character. As if James Gunn's decision to style himself like some kind of cartoon paedophile wasn't clue enough.
buddy are you lost?
Gunn sucks of corpos, whereas corpos sucks off Martin.
We love Snyder, we do
Capeshit isn't art, but not every movie is art. I don't know why they get so butthurt. A corporate product made to shill lunchboxes and Happy Meal toys or fill a lineup slot on a streaming service release calender isn't art. Anything with test screenings and focus groups isn't art. It's just objective.
But, that's fine. Not everything is art. I like some stuff that isn't art. It's okay to like some trash. But, you've gotta expand those horizons.And most of these capeshit consoomers just never wanna do that.
Snyder's answer was really good.
Its ok if you like super hero movies but if you cannot admit they are a low form of entertainment, lower than any other type of film, then you're a delusional homosexual
Marty doesn't care about press, he just doesn't like capeshit. The dude had a movie with a cast that sells itself.