No one? At first Chigurh thinks he might have to kill the guy cause he's seen the license plate on the stolen car, then when he realizes the dude's an idiot he starts fricking with him, then offers the coin flip because of his whole principle of death and life being and equal choice. Chigugh was following his rules, the clerk was just doing his job.
“So you married into it” is a way of putting it that both connotes contempt and implies intent. The fact of the matter is he married the girl he loved and they had a full life in another city, and in their golden years they moved out to her old home next to her late father’s store, which he operates now. But for no good reason Javier Bardem chooses to basically call that guy a gold-digging prostitute.
why didn't he keep the cop car. I bet no backwater sister fricker would dare question him it would take years for news of the stolen cop car to reach other stations.
The entire premise of the scene, the story really is how softness makes people stupid, weak and incapable. But driving a stolen police car of a deputy you just murdered anywhere in America at any point in history is writing your own death sentence as soon as the ABP is out to the surrounding counties. By simply changing vehicles Chigurh drops off all radar as he did multiple times so why risk it?
the shopkeeper. and white america.
he owns and runs a shop that he married into (white nepotism). instead of realizing his privilege and hiring some POC to operate his shop, he decides to work there and reap all the prophets. there are plenty of POC who want to work but can't because people like him take all the jobs.
if anything chigurh should've burned his shop down
>antagonist suffers the same philosophical destruction of his sense of justice as the two protagonists, transcends the entire concept of heroes and villains >makes the audience empathize with the psychopathic murderer >one of the most genuinely satisfying villain failure scenes in modern film >one of the best jump scares ever >least talked-about scene in the film
>chigurh follows a set of bizarre rules but rules nonetheless >is shown to be unstoppable the entire movie >chigurh drives away at the end of the movie >stops at red >goes on green >gets completely t-boned and nearly dies in a wreck that was already fatal for the other guy >none of his rules actually mattered >he seems to realize this but as the ringing in his ears fade he's back to trying to survive and move forward
every cormac book is about an idealistic man or boy who sets out to have an adventure then realizes that life is unfair horror and pain and is left broken, mature, and quietly nihilistic.
no country isn't even one of his better books, but its a great story of three men who's journeys to nihilism intersect. bell is a lawman who believes in his ability to keep the world sane and just, moss is an honest man looking to take care of his family who's seen one too many cowboy movies and thinks he can stand up to an unfair world and take what he thinks is his, and chigurh sees himself as an administer of a kind of fatalistic justice that holds everyone accountable to the road/plan of their life that leads to their inevitable death.
by the end, all three have been proven wrong about what they thought about the world. bell realizes the world he wanted to save is long gone, moss doesn't even get his cowboy showdown heroic ending, and chigurh comes out on top thanks to his ruthelessness, but a car careening into him and nearly killing him reminds him that he is himself subject to the unfair and unbiased rules of fate that he thought he was in control of.
the only character with any courage spit in the face of this pointless pursuit of fairness and justice is moss's wife, who when even confronted with her own death will tell the killer that he must understand that he is making a decision, not following a plan. his action in killing someone is his own choice, and therefore not a part of a narrative that is comforting and reasonable, but simply the act of a human in the moment, what cormac ultimately believes is the real point of life.
worth noting as well that as many people pointed out moss might've gotten away with it if he hadn't gone back to give the dying mexican some water. his personal sense of justice and honor undid him.
the scene when bell returns to the motel where moss died is very different in the book: he waits in a rental car until chigurh comes for the money, and when given an opportunity to arrest or shoot him, he hesitates out of cowardice and gets away. he fails more directly than what's presented in the film.
worth noting as well that as many people pointed out moss might've gotten away with it if he hadn't gone back to give the dying mexican some water. his personal sense of justice and honor undid him.
the scene when bell returns to the motel where moss died is very different in the book: he waits in a rental car until chigurh comes for the money, and when given an opportunity to arrest or shoot him, he hesitates out of cowardice and gets away. he fails more directly than what's presented in the film.
before I read that I just started reading blood meridian did you write anything that will jeopardize my experience? I already got a spoiler on a youtube video
You can't really "spoil" Blood Meridian. I'm rereading it right now and it's not really that kind of story. It's just about the kid losing spiraling into evil with a gang of killers lead by a psychopath (Glanton) who may or may not have made a pact with the devil. We never get to see what the kid thinks or feels, only what he does, but he seems to retain some kindness throughout the book. It just gradually devolves into worse and worse violence until the kid is literally consumed by the devil.
The end was officer bell making peace with his career. He realized that he was in fact a man of his time, that the service he did for his community will endure through ages like the stone water through, that he finally woke up from the nightmare of not living up to his father' s legacy. It was not nihilistic at all
javier coulda just made something up instead of gettin pissy about it,,
"its been dryer than my wife's coot for the last three weeks or so..that climate change is gonna bleach us off the face of the earth..goddamned democrats" and then peace out, old dude wouldnt have thought twice
I always thought the shopkeeper was quite ballsy and brave in the way he spoke to an obvious psycho, knowing that if things went bad he would lose a physical fight and no help would come
Evens: Chigur
Odds: Shopkeeper
Dubs: the wife
Well done. Don't put those odds in your "check 'em" collection. Anywhere but your "check 'em collection", they'll just be a meaningless GET there.
Which it is_____
No one? At first Chigurh thinks he might have to kill the guy cause he's seen the license plate on the stolen car, then when he realizes the dude's an idiot he starts fricking with him, then offers the coin flip because of his whole principle of death and life being and equal choice. Chigugh was following his rules, the clerk was just doing his job.
Realistically could Anton even be charged with murder? He leaves it up to the coin flip, it's out of his control.
Not in Texas.
Wow you didn't interpret that scene correctly at all
The wife's father
Is there something wrong?
With what?
With anything
>is that what you're asking me? is there something wrong with anything?
>It's just an expression.
How does Tony respond without sounding mad?
Well I got to see about closin
What's the most you've ever lost in a dubs roll?
The guy who was willing to murder a shopkeeper he'd just met for failing to correctly guess a coin toss.
Javier Bardem was wrong to pretend “so you married into it” wasn’t “a way of putting it” because it absolutely was a way of putting it.
He runs a shop that he only owns because it belong to the father of the woman he married. It's the way it is.
“So you married into it” is a way of putting it that both connotes contempt and implies intent. The fact of the matter is he married the girl he loved and they had a full life in another city, and in their golden years they moved out to her old home next to her late father’s store, which he operates now. But for no good reason Javier Bardem chooses to basically call that guy a gold-digging prostitute.
No, he's simply saying that is the crux of it. You can dress it all you want but the end result is the same.
If that’s how you want to put it.
I don't have some way of putting it. That's the way it is.
Well I got to see about getting dubs
You have no idea what you're posting about
Is something wrong?
>2003. It took 20 years of shitposting to get here. And now this thread is here. And it's either singles or dubs. And you have to say. Roll it.
Impressive, very nice.
Okay, singles then.
Well done.
Tails
screencapped. Don't put it in your screencaps folder, that will make just another screencap, which it is.
🙂
y'all getting any dubs up your way? I seen you was from /b/
Are you jacking with me?
Who was in the wrong here?
Why didn't he ask this guy to call it?
cause the guy had already sealed his fate by driving a car the chigurh wanted to steal
Blacks
well done
why didn't he keep the cop car. I bet no backwater sister fricker would dare question him it would take years for news of the stolen cop car to reach other stations.
The entire premise of the scene, the story really is how softness makes people stupid, weak and incapable. But driving a stolen police car of a deputy you just murdered anywhere in America at any point in history is writing your own death sentence as soon as the ABP is out to the surrounding counties. By simply changing vehicles Chigurh drops off all radar as he did multiple times so why risk it?
well I got to see about closing the thread.
what time do you archive?
Sir?
you're a bit dyslexic aren't you?
the shopkeeper. and white america.
he owns and runs a shop that he married into (white nepotism). instead of realizing his privilege and hiring some POC to operate his shop, he decides to work there and reap all the prophets. there are plenty of POC who want to work but can't because people like him take all the jobs.
if anything chigurh should've burned his shop down
Wrong about what?
>antagonist suffers the same philosophical destruction of his sense of justice as the two protagonists, transcends the entire concept of heroes and villains
>makes the audience empathize with the psychopathic murderer
>one of the most genuinely satisfying villain failure scenes in modern film
>one of the best jump scares ever
>least talked-about scene in the film
What was the point of this scene ?
Even the god of death incarnated can eat shit and die. This says a lot about society...
he basically gets coinflipped himself, he wasn't special
>chigurh follows a set of bizarre rules but rules nonetheless
>is shown to be unstoppable the entire movie
>chigurh drives away at the end of the movie
>stops at red
>goes on green
>gets completely t-boned and nearly dies in a wreck that was already fatal for the other guy
>none of his rules actually mattered
>he seems to realize this but as the ringing in his ears fade he's back to trying to survive and move forward
Also something to note is how the two boys argue over the money. Keeps with one of the main themes of the movie.
idk, I just feel like cormac is an old nihilistic b***h, but to be fair I'm not very familiar with his works
every cormac book is about an idealistic man or boy who sets out to have an adventure then realizes that life is unfair horror and pain and is left broken, mature, and quietly nihilistic.
no country isn't even one of his better books, but its a great story of three men who's journeys to nihilism intersect. bell is a lawman who believes in his ability to keep the world sane and just, moss is an honest man looking to take care of his family who's seen one too many cowboy movies and thinks he can stand up to an unfair world and take what he thinks is his, and chigurh sees himself as an administer of a kind of fatalistic justice that holds everyone accountable to the road/plan of their life that leads to their inevitable death.
by the end, all three have been proven wrong about what they thought about the world. bell realizes the world he wanted to save is long gone, moss doesn't even get his cowboy showdown heroic ending, and chigurh comes out on top thanks to his ruthelessness, but a car careening into him and nearly killing him reminds him that he is himself subject to the unfair and unbiased rules of fate that he thought he was in control of.
the only character with any courage spit in the face of this pointless pursuit of fairness and justice is moss's wife, who when even confronted with her own death will tell the killer that he must understand that he is making a decision, not following a plan. his action in killing someone is his own choice, and therefore not a part of a narrative that is comforting and reasonable, but simply the act of a human in the moment, what cormac ultimately believes is the real point of life.
worth noting as well that as many people pointed out moss might've gotten away with it if he hadn't gone back to give the dying mexican some water. his personal sense of justice and honor undid him.
the scene when bell returns to the motel where moss died is very different in the book: he waits in a rental car until chigurh comes for the money, and when given an opportunity to arrest or shoot him, he hesitates out of cowardice and gets away. he fails more directly than what's presented in the film.
before I read that I just started reading blood meridian did you write anything that will jeopardize my experience? I already got a spoiler on a youtube video
i mean probably not, other than that his books are about loss of innocence.
You can't really "spoil" Blood Meridian. I'm rereading it right now and it's not really that kind of story. It's just about the kid losing spiraling into evil with a gang of killers lead by a psychopath (Glanton) who may or may not have made a pact with the devil. We never get to see what the kid thinks or feels, only what he does, but he seems to retain some kindness throughout the book. It just gradually devolves into worse and worse violence until the kid is literally consumed by the devil.
The end was officer bell making peace with his career. He realized that he was in fact a man of his time, that the service he did for his community will endure through ages like the stone water through, that he finally woke up from the nightmare of not living up to his father' s legacy. It was not nihilistic at all
>is
he moved on
agua
Only got Baja Blast, amigo.
*ack*
Probably the unrepentant mass murderer.
javier coulda just made something up instead of gettin pissy about it,,
"its been dryer than my wife's coot for the last three weeks or so..that climate change is gonna bleach us off the face of the earth..goddamned democrats" and then peace out, old dude wouldnt have thought twice
I didn't mean nothin' by it
You don't know what u r talking about.
Jag Sparra
>The coin don't have no say. It's just you.
If I was her I would've been all like, heads
Is that what you're asking me? Who was in the wrong in this scene?
Shopkeep was wrong for not working at a Baskin Roberts.
What time does this thread 404?
Generally around darkies. When the darkies post.
I could shitpost then
I always thought the shopkeeper was quite ballsy and brave in the way he spoke to an obvious psycho, knowing that if things went bad he would lose a physical fight and no help would come