The blink to the audience implies they're on a dream just like the other ending where Freddy posesses the protagonist BF.
and Jason needed help to get Kruegger killed in the real world either way.
Obviously a straight up fight between them comes down to whether or not they're in the real world, in which case Jason stomps Frederick. But I prefer to look at it as who got the most kills, in which case Jason also stomps. Freddy got what, 1 or 2 kills in the whole movie?
>Freddy got what, 1 or 2 kills in the whole movie?
I always thought it was weird to make Jason some kind-off anti hero in this film yet have him do most of the killing
no the wink just implied he was down but not out, just like the end of most horror movies where there's a hint the monster might return.
But Jason won the fight, he's literally walking around carrying his foes head. Even the Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comics read it that way.
>no the wink just implied he was down but not out
Both DVD and theatrical endings imply Freddy is in control >Even the Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comics read it that way.
No one fricking reads horror comics lol I bet 90% of the audience from this film isnt aware of them.
>Wait you mean the DVD ending they didn't use because they admitted it made no sense.
The whole fight, at least in the real world, doesnt make sense. You're putting a burnt, 50 year old man against a Michael Myers Zombie with enough strength to punch someone's head off, there's no fricking way Freddy would be able to go toe to toe with him.
Yet Jason needed to be bailed out by the kids both in the Dream world and real world. >and the proper ending doesn't imply that.
It's the feeling I've got from both endings, did the director say anything about this?
7 months ago
Anonymous
You're talking about the DVD ending where Will turns into Freddy? That's no official in any capacity. It was one the many endings they were considering but they said nobody knew what it meant at all.
As for the official ending. It's Jason walking, intact. what is so vague about this?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>That's no official in any capacity
The director's cut is usually the "canon" ending in a lot of franchises.
Take Halloween 6 for example where in the cinemas it was left in a quite vague way with Myers mask lying on the floor while Loomis shouts in the background.
In the director's cut you see the actual scene from this shot where Dr Loomis is infected with Michael's curse as he escapes disguised as one of the minor villains in the film. >It was one the many endings they were considering
such as? >As for the official ending. It's Jason walking, intact. what is so vague about this?
Freddy winking at the audience and laughing implies that.
Plus, Jason never really recover from limb loss in the previous films.
>You're putting a burnt, 50 year old man against a Michael Myers Zombie
You do know Freddy has strength in the real world too? Didn't you watch the other movies where he's running around in the real world?
>You do know Freddy has strength in the real world too?
Yes and he never posessed that type of strength nor resistance.
It really isnt the only retcon on this film, >Freddy being weak because no one remembers him despite that on the OG film the literal plot is the protagonists discovering who HE was >Jason being totally terrified about water when he emerges from Crystal Lake in previous films
7 months ago
Anonymous
what directors cut? are you talking about the Will/Freddy ending because that's not ANY cut.
Freddy winking is just Freddy winking, it doesn't imply anything unless you want to read into it
7 months ago
Anonymous
>what directors cut? are you talking about the Will/Freddy ending because that's not ANY cut.
It's the original ending and it wasnt the one released in the cinemas so technically it is. >Freddy winking is just Freddy winking
He laughs while doing so, I dont think he'd be sadistic enough to express joy about being decapitated IF he wasnt in control of the situation.
>doesn't remember him smashing though the concrete at a pool party in part two and walking on the ceiling in part 6
>doesn't remember him smashing though the concrete at a pool party in part two
He's technically using some other guy's body if I remember correctly. >walking on the ceiling in part 6
Fair enough but I think that Freddy is supossed to be "stronger" because he killed most of the teenagers in Springwood.
It's also the same film where he gets beaten by a homie with a bat so, those qualities are nowhere near consistent.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's a unused ending. It's never official. Movies have tons of footage shot that they never use. You DO know how films are made right?
7 months ago
Anonymous
The point is there's enough wiggle room for Freddy to be doing shit a normal human couldn't.
7 months ago
Anonymous
and it wasnt the one released in the cinemas so technically it is.
do you mean 'was" released in cinemas because it never was? only some test screenings tried it during production.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't remember him smashing though the concrete at a pool party in part two and walking on the ceiling in part 6
7 months ago
Anonymous
in 20 years, no one, no one except you has ever mentioned the deleted ending as the real ending
7 months ago
Anonymous
>You're putting a burnt, 50 year old man against a Michael Myers Zombie
You do know Freddy has strength in the real world too? Didn't you watch the other movies where he's running around in the real world?
7 months ago
Anonymous
The director is a chinese guy who doesn’t give a shit about freddy or jason, he was just a hired gun because he did Bride of Chucky
Obviously a straight up fight between them comes down to whether or not they're in the real world, in which case Jason stomps Frederick. But I prefer to look at it as who got the most kills, in which case Jason also stomps. Freddy got what, 1 or 2 kills in the whole movie?
Jason didnt win tho. Just because he was holding Freddy's head dont mean shit. Freddy clearly had something up his sleeve by letting Jason think he won. Its called the long con and we're still waitin for the pay off
King Kong vs. Godzilla (the original) had Kong win the fight.
Godzilla vs. Kong (the latest one) had Mechagodzilla show up but Godzilla DID win decisively before that.
And she called him a homosexual in return. It was a better time.
>A gay wearing a Christmas sweater
Kek
in 20 years, no one, no one except you has ever mentioned the deleted ending as the real ending
I've mentioned both endings. And there's not really a sequel to confirmt the statement of both either way, so it's kind-off a pointless debate.
Specially since Jason needed to get bailed out by the kids in both Dream and Real world, it wasnt even a proper 1v1
>freddys dose of the sleeping injection wasnt enough to keep him sleeping for so long
Freddy really didnt need much more time to finish him off.
headcanon or not, Jason got woken up.
The point is there's enough wiggle room for Freddy to be doing shit a normal human couldn't.
>digits
Fair enough, but you got to agree hes inconsistent af and I doubt it's certainly enough to go toe to toe with the Michael Myers ripoff.
Jason is still alive in Jason X set far in the future but Freddy never appears in the timeline after Freddy vs. Jason therefore Jason won and we can put a rest to this debate.
Although now that I think about it, Jason never gets away 'with it' and gets beaten one way or another by the different protagonists he faces in his own saga with 2 being the exception.
He's always getting beaten the frick out of him and usually left for dead, so Freddy doing the same with him in the real world might not be THAT crazy.
i don’t consoom supercut/kill count videos but i need an edit compiling all the time robert englund makes a stupid noise in this movie. it’s fricking hilarious especially when jason throws him and the way he says AHHHHHHHHHH
neither of them can die so they'd just keep fighting forever
Jason did win. He was holding Freddy's head
This. Anytime I hear people say this movie “didn’t have the balls to have a winner” it confuses me
The blink to the audience implies they're on a dream just like the other ending where Freddy posesses the protagonist BF.
and Jason needed help to get Kruegger killed in the real world either way.
>Freddy got what, 1 or 2 kills in the whole movie?
I always thought it was weird to make Jason some kind-off anti hero in this film yet have him do most of the killing
no the wink just implied he was down but not out, just like the end of most horror movies where there's a hint the monster might return.
But Jason won the fight, he's literally walking around carrying his foes head. Even the Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comics read it that way.
>no the wink just implied he was down but not out
Both DVD and theatrical endings imply Freddy is in control
>Even the Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comics read it that way.
No one fricking reads horror comics lol I bet 90% of the audience from this film isnt aware of them.
Wait you mean the DVD ending they didn't use because they admitted it made no sense.
and the proper ending doesn't imply that.
>Wait you mean the DVD ending they didn't use because they admitted it made no sense.
The whole fight, at least in the real world, doesnt make sense. You're putting a burnt, 50 year old man against a Michael Myers Zombie with enough strength to punch someone's head off, there's no fricking way Freddy would be able to go toe to toe with him.
Yet Jason needed to be bailed out by the kids both in the Dream world and real world.
>and the proper ending doesn't imply that.
It's the feeling I've got from both endings, did the director say anything about this?
You're talking about the DVD ending where Will turns into Freddy? That's no official in any capacity. It was one the many endings they were considering but they said nobody knew what it meant at all.
As for the official ending. It's Jason walking, intact. what is so vague about this?
>That's no official in any capacity
The director's cut is usually the "canon" ending in a lot of franchises.
Take Halloween 6 for example where in the cinemas it was left in a quite vague way with Myers mask lying on the floor while Loomis shouts in the background.
In the director's cut you see the actual scene from this shot where Dr Loomis is infected with Michael's curse as he escapes disguised as one of the minor villains in the film.
>It was one the many endings they were considering
such as?
>As for the official ending. It's Jason walking, intact. what is so vague about this?
Freddy winking at the audience and laughing implies that.
Plus, Jason never really recover from limb loss in the previous films.
>You do know Freddy has strength in the real world too?
Yes and he never posessed that type of strength nor resistance.
It really isnt the only retcon on this film,
>Freddy being weak because no one remembers him despite that on the OG film the literal plot is the protagonists discovering who HE was
>Jason being totally terrified about water when he emerges from Crystal Lake in previous films
what directors cut? are you talking about the Will/Freddy ending because that's not ANY cut.
Freddy winking is just Freddy winking, it doesn't imply anything unless you want to read into it
>what directors cut? are you talking about the Will/Freddy ending because that's not ANY cut.
It's the original ending and it wasnt the one released in the cinemas so technically it is.
>Freddy winking is just Freddy winking
He laughs while doing so, I dont think he'd be sadistic enough to express joy about being decapitated IF he wasnt in control of the situation.
>doesn't remember him smashing though the concrete at a pool party in part two
He's technically using some other guy's body if I remember correctly.
>walking on the ceiling in part 6
Fair enough but I think that Freddy is supossed to be "stronger" because he killed most of the teenagers in Springwood.
It's also the same film where he gets beaten by a homie with a bat so, those qualities are nowhere near consistent.
It's a unused ending. It's never official. Movies have tons of footage shot that they never use. You DO know how films are made right?
The point is there's enough wiggle room for Freddy to be doing shit a normal human couldn't.
and it wasnt the one released in the cinemas so technically it is.
do you mean 'was" released in cinemas because it never was? only some test screenings tried it during production.
>doesn't remember him smashing though the concrete at a pool party in part two and walking on the ceiling in part 6
in 20 years, no one, no one except you has ever mentioned the deleted ending as the real ending
>You're putting a burnt, 50 year old man against a Michael Myers Zombie
You do know Freddy has strength in the real world too? Didn't you watch the other movies where he's running around in the real world?
The director is a chinese guy who doesn’t give a shit about freddy or jason, he was just a hired gun because he did Bride of Chucky
I just took it that his supernatural nature let him survive a decapitation
It still looks like Jason was the winner of the fight. There's nothing to imply Freddy's "controlling" anyone or anything like that
He's the antihero because he does most of the killing.
But those are innocent lives
they did end it properly you pleb
Obviously a straight up fight between them comes down to whether or not they're in the real world, in which case Jason stomps Frederick. But I prefer to look at it as who got the most kills, in which case Jason also stomps. Freddy got what, 1 or 2 kills in the whole movie?
Jason won. Sr. is right.
This is dumb. Jason isn't just scared of water in the dream world he's always scared of water.
He probably closes his eye and holds his breath every time he goes in. Hell if it weren't for his mask he would probably hold his nose too.
>plebbit meme
why are jasongays like this? they're moronic and unironical virgins like their idol.
Has there ever been a crossover with 2 big characters where it didnt end in either a stalemate or them teaming up against a different enemy?
Is nobody reading the responses in this thread?
Jason didnt win tho. Just because he was holding Freddy's head dont mean shit. Freddy clearly had something up his sleeve by letting Jason think he won. Its called the long con and we're still waitin for the pay off
greatbaitmate
King Kong vs. Godzilla (the original) had Kong win the fight.
Godzilla vs. Kong (the latest one) had Mechagodzilla show up but Godzilla DID win decisively before that.
Godzilla is so much better than Kong, it was hilarious how actual Black folk seethed at that movie because they self-identified as the monke.
In the first Alien vs Predator movie the Predators pretty clearly won despite the dumb stinger at the end.
Didn't the Queen kill the Predator. It was the girl that killed the Queen.
Mothra defeats Godzilla in the 1964 movie
Either way the audience loses again. Putrid "film".
it was a great film
Freddy had Jason regressed to his childhood self and could've finished him off there, but the kids intervened and woke Jason up.
>You now remember Krueger calling the negress "dark meat"
And she called him a homosexual in return. It was a better time.
>A gay wearing a Christmas sweater
Kek
I've mentioned both endings. And there's not really a sequel to confirmt the statement of both either way, so it's kind-off a pointless debate.
Specially since Jason needed to get bailed out by the kids in both Dream and Real world, it wasnt even a proper 1v1
>Specially since Jason needed to get bailed out by the kids in both Dream and Real world, it wasnt even a proper 1v1
freddys dose of the sleeping injection wasnt enough to keep him sleeping for so long
the kids gave a bunch of more sleeping medicine
>freddys dose of the sleeping injection wasnt enough to keep him sleeping for so long
Freddy really didnt need much more time to finish him off.
headcanon or not, Jason got woken up.
>digits
Fair enough, but you got to agree hes inconsistent af and I doubt it's certainly enough to go toe to toe with the Michael Myers ripoff.
>headcanon or not, Jason got woken up.
i mean without the kids he would have woken up much earlier
It was a Jason movie, he got all the kills, Freddy spent the whole movie doing nothing
I've never seen a VS movie where either side is the clear victor.
If it wasn't a dream, Jason won. If it was, Freddy won
Why would the "dream demon" win outside of a dream?
Freddy can't do this
freddy is nigh immortal specter
jason is just some tough hillbilly
pinhead
Jason is still alive in Jason X set far in the future but Freddy never appears in the timeline after Freddy vs. Jason therefore Jason won and we can put a rest to this debate.
not only that but jason went to literal hell and returned
That makes me wonder, does Jason always come back from the dead because Hell just simply can not hold him? Does he just murder his way out?
Teenagers keep having sex on his land.
But that just means freddy is dormant like jason was waiting for kids to remember so he can start stalking and killing them in their dreams.
earth dissapeared. empty
humans leave on earth 2
freddy gone 400 years
But Jason remembers Freddy and Jason sleeps therefore Freddy can come to Earth 2
Freddy's the one that made the earth a wasteland
Headcanon. Freddy is dead and Jason kept truckin'
I want a Freddy vs Jason 2 , same director again as he handled it so well.
Although now that I think about it, Jason never gets away 'with it' and gets beaten one way or another by the different protagonists he faces in his own saga with 2 being the exception.
He's always getting beaten the frick out of him and usually left for dead, so Freddy doing the same with him in the real world might not be THAT crazy.
Freddy vs Jason is literally the greatest film of all time
For me, it's Jason.
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Freddy won. The Elm Street kids all know who he is and there's enough fear for him to feed off of again.
Not the hot black woman that wanted Jason's wiener.
Guy must be a homosexual
i don’t consoom supercut/kill count videos but i need an edit compiling all the time robert englund makes a stupid noise in this movie. it’s fricking hilarious especially when jason throws him and the way he says AHHHHHHHHHH
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I literally pissed and shit myself once I saw this for the first time.
I cannot believe two franchises that created nothing but absolute dogshit films were able to combine to make pure kino like this.
it's so based how they're trading blows and throwing each other around. no dream bullshit, just Freddy and Jason beating the frick out of each other
Jason kicked Fred's ass and Freddygays never recovered
what year is the 'near future' prologue to Jason X set, and how does that tie in with Freddy vs Jason?
2455. Jason was captured by the government or something, escaped, and was accidentally cryogenically frozen.
Oh sorry I misread. The prologue is set in 2008