Who would win?
 Thalidomide Vintage Ad Shirt $22.14 |
 CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
Thalidomide Vintage Ad Shirt $22.14 |
Who would win?
Who would win?
Thalidomide Vintage Ad Shirt $22.14 |
CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
Thalidomide Vintage Ad Shirt $22.14 |
Bugs, but only after being one upped by madoka the entire episode
in a comedy? Bugs. In a tragedy? Madoka
I dont know who this random anime girl is but the only way to "win" a fight with a toon is to out toon them which I highly doubt this girl is able to do.
>the only way to "win" a fight with a toon is to out toon them
There is another way
That only worked on the toons in that movie specifically due to how they were made. You GODDAMN idiot.
You seem angry anon, is everything okay? Do you wanna talk about it?
Either that or destroy the opponent's Toon World card
heh
Madoka Magica is honestly the only anime that I love. Every other anime I’ve either watched once and forgot about, or never finished, but I’ve seen Madoka Magica many times beginning to end. I recommend it to my friends. I really love it.
The plot is there’s this girl named Madoka, and she gets approached by this cat-alien-pokemon creature thing, who says “hey, if you become a magical girl, I’ll grant you a wish.”
And then this new girl shows up at school, goes right up to her, and says “Madoka if anyone offers you anything don’t accept it. Don’t change your life in any way. Definitely don’t become a magical girl if someone offers you a wish.”
So Madoka is like “frick what do I do? Who do I trust?” and then various things happen that affect her views on whether she should become a magical girl. Like, she meets one magical girl who’s really nice and cool, but she dies. And they meets another magical girl, but she’s a huge b***h and everybody hates her. Her friend becomes a magical girl, but it just depresses her. They later find out when magical girls die, they turn into the monsters that they fight.
Finally, the mysterious new girl in school gets backstory: originally, Madoka was a magical girl and she gave her life to save the mysterious new girl. So she made a wish that she could have infinite repeats to go back in time, and she’d be the magical girl and Madoka would be the normal girl, and she could save Madoka from dying. She’s been doing this for who knows how many time loops, and failing every single time.
So it ends with Madoka making this giant wish to completely restructure reality. She wishes to become the ultimate magical girl, who saves every single other magical girl from turning into a giant monster at the moment of their death. She ascends into what is essentially godhood, living outside reality and saving everybody everywhere at all times.
Sounds depressing. I can never get into anime because all anime is like this. First it pretends to be just cute girls and shit but when you expect it the least it shoots off into some existential shit that leaves me wanting to kill myself.
That’s pretty on-point. It starts off like Sailor Moon type stuff, it’s super cutesy and saccharine and sugary, for about three episodes, then after the first magical girl dies it gets serious.
Stop watching anime about cute girls, then.
Watch anime about cool dudes instead.
>sounds depressing
>recommends Trigun
Lol
Slayers, then.
Respectable choice.
>Watch anime about cool dudes instead.
finally, some testosterone on this board
BUT I'LL END UP BEING CALLED GAY IF I WATCH KINO
Why would anyone call you gay for watching Kino?
Her show's pretty good.
80's and 90's sentai shows are the of this. Also watch SoL and not magical girls if you just want cute girls
Most anime isn't like that, regardless of what you define "that" as. A single anime does not represent the whole. I don't know how people keep getting these ideas.
Sometimes I forget that, then I find an anime that comes completely out of left field for me.
I recently found out there's an anime from the 90s about the childhood life of Stephen Foster. Stephen Foster is an American songwriter, he's most famous for writing Oh Susanna and My Old Kentucky Home.
It's called Jeanie with the Light Brown Hair. It just struck me as so odd. I hear "anime" and I think "sci-fi/fantasy/high school rom-com," not "kids playing banjo and harmonica in 19th century Philadelphia"
There's anime about almost anything you could think of and a lot that you couldn't, but very little of it gets any recognition. Jeanie is part of a whole series:
https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/World_Masterpiece_Theater
Boy, do I have news for you. Back in the 80s there was a huge push by the Japanese govt to make anime more respectable, so they funded a bunch of anime adaptations of classic novels.
The only anime that makes me want to kill myself is Watamote because it's just a timid degenerate trying and failing to be normal.
Shes just like me fr
Then you have been out of touch with the manga since the current Tomoko is an oblivious lesbian with a lesbian harem.
Tomoko was just literally me with the gender switch, encouraged me to improve myself and be more out there. Thank god for early Watamote.
>First it pretends to be just cute girls and shit but when you expect it the least it shoots off into some existential shit
That's literally my favorite kind of media and it's next to impossible to find anime that does it, or anything else, really. Madoka is one of the few examples.
I fell in love with Koboyashi Dragon Maid and kept waiting for it to get dark and emotional, but it only did at the end of the first season, and then it snapped back to being cutesy antics with no stakes. I wanted shit to get real.
Madoka isn't even like that. It's dark and surreal from the very first scene. I know an anime that actually deliberately hoodwinks you into thinking it's going to be some fluffy SoL show, until it isn't.
>It's dark and surreal from the very first scene.
Well, yeah, let me rephrase that. It doesn't try to trick you, but it does have cute elements combined with dark elements. The Walpurgisnacht sequence at the beginning teases the dark, then we get 20 minutes of cute introductions.
>I know an anime
What is it?
You can click on this to find out.
>cute girls and a few drops of blood in the same show? Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh I'm going insane!!!!
I don't know how to express my hatred for you "people". You do know that every girl has blood inside of them, right?
>It doesn't try to trick you
While madoka does have dark elements from the beginning it was absolutely trying to trick the audience. The first two episodes have a generic magical girl ED that gets replaced with Magia the moment Mami gets snacked on. The writer Gen Urobuchi is known for a lot of dark work but if I remember right for all his interviews up to the original airing of Madoka he was pretending it was going to be a show for kids.
A show for kids doesn't air that late, and a conventional magical girl anime doesn't have the same style as Madoka.
Your inability to tell things apart is not the fault of anime.
Watch Princess Tutu, never gets as violent as Madoka but becomes something very interesting once the other shoe drops.
Seriously so fricking good. Hard to get people to give it a chance.
>I fell in love with Koboyashi Dragon Maid and kept waiting for it to get dark and emotional, but it only did at the end of the first season, and then it snapped back to being cutesy antics with no stakes. I wanted shit to get real.
They really don't do a ton with the whole dragon thing. I kept waiting for full lesbians.
Yeah, you're probably not going to be finding that with Dragon Maid. It's coom now.
It was always coom.
For frick's sake, the original manga is literally made by a fricking porn artist who mainly draws /ss/, oppai e-girl, and giant tit monstergirls, all of which are present in Dragon Maid.
I won't lie though, COOL's /ss/ diaper stuff is pretty hot.
It's a pretty good twist. Show is all sugar and gumdrops for... Three episodes? Then a girl gets devoured.
>ultimate god
>leaves the gachaverse to suffer
Oh, great goddess.
Its not the only anime I love but I agree
Eh it’s ok. The dick riders for it are annoying though
I love it since it was an extremely tightly written show that managed to tell it's story as perfectly as it could in 12 episodes
It's also visually creative
In her respective series that girl became an omnipresent god who is able to manipulate timelines as well as alternative parallel universes. So reality manipulation on a toon logic level.
The outcome entirely depends on how willing bugs is to beat up a little girl because she is very pacifistic and what version of Bugs is fighting her
Did you just call Madoka pacifistic? Quads fricking lie.
>what version of Bugs is fighting her
This one
Bugs would happily stab someone in the eyes with carrots then turn to the camera, smirk, and say, "Ain't I a stinker." And it ain't really a question.
>this random anime girl
Come on, even people living in caves in Afghanistan have heard of Madoka Magica
all anime rook same
unironically tho
Yeah bro, Berserk and Shin-Chan are so goddamn the same.
>Come on, even people living in caves in Afghanistan have heard of Madoka Magica
bullshit, its not the anime version of michael jackson
I do not normally watch anime because I am not a homosexual.
America is the gay capital of the world, not Japan.
I don't see how anime conventions in the West relate to what audience anime in Japan is made for.
Not likely that most people in that audience are teenagers.
>what audience anime in Japan is made for.
Yeah, teenagers and children. In Japan, watching anime as an adult has the same stigma attached to it as it does in the west.
Japan is not as neurotically obsessed with teenagers as America is, and "teenager" arbitrarily means people aged 13-19 because they all end in "teen" in English. The seinen demographic goes from the late teens to adulthood, they don't have a separate category just for people aged 18+ or 20+.
>In Japan, watching anime as an adult has the same stigma attached to it as it does in the west.
No. This is Western projection.
Anime is overwhelmingly more adult-oriented than American animation.
>Japan is not as neurotically obsessed with teenagers as America is
You don't know much about Japan, clearly.
A lot more than you.
It's a fact. Even children's anime is more mature than comparable American animation. There is way, way more anime made for adults, especially non-comedy. Also I'm older than you.
>Also I'm older than you.
I'm 47. You're not.
You are not 47. Yes, I am older than you.
You are not 47.
I am. And if you are older than me, that's really sad if you're still watching anime.
The only really adult non-hentai anime I've seen is Aggretsuko, and that's marketed to kids here.
That just means you have extremely limited knowledge of anime. Marketing Aggretsuko to kids doesn't make sense because it has nothing relevant to them. Bojack Horseman isn't for kids either.
You are not 47. People who start bringing up age are teenagers or in their twenties.
>People who start bringing up age are teenagers or in their twenties.
The same people who still watch anime?
Just because animation is aimed at children in America doesn't mean it is that way in Japan. Japan is not America and they don't do animation the American way. There is no reason why animation cannot be made for and watched by adults.
I agree. If Japan ever makes animation for adults, I'm sure Japanese adults will begin watching it too.
Japan makes animation for adults all the time and adults in Japan watch animation all the time. That's the way it is, no matter how much it offends you.
We will agree do disagree then. Sorry.
This isn't a matter of disagreement, this is a matter of me being right and you being wrong.
I disagree, and watching shitty teenager cartoons at your age is really cringy. Imagine still being prideful about consuming weebshit in the year 2023.
You don't disagree, you are just wrong.
>watching shitty teenager cartoons at your age is really cringy
I never said I watch any "shitty teenager cartoons."
>Imagine still being prideful about consuming weebshit in the year 2023.
Anime by definition cannot be weeaboo.
>I never said I watch any "shitty teenager cartoons.
If you watch anime, you watch shitty teenager cartoons. I have more respect for the autists who watch Cartoon Network trash than I do adults who still watch frickin' anime.
Like seriously, anime? This isn't 1999 anymore.
Anime isn't for teenagers and it isn't cartoons.
>I have more respect for the autists who watch Cartoon Network trash than I do adults who still watch frickin' anime.
Your argument makes zero sense. Cartoons are far more oriented towards children than anime is.
>Like seriously, anime? This isn't 1999 anymore.
Anime is more popular than it was then.
Watching anime in 2023 is like listening to Disco in 1993.
>Anime is more popular than it was then.
Yeah, among frickin' kids and teenagers, the target audience its meant for. But for grown-ass adults. No. Absolutely not.
Nonsensical statement. Again, anime is more popular now than it was then.
>Yeah, among frickin' kids and teenagers
And adults.
>the target audience its meant for
Wrong.
>And adults.
Define "adults". Actual adults who work and have families, or college-aged manbabbies and autists?
Moving the goalposts, and we both know you'd never talk this way about Western media.
Depends. In the west we have teenager-oriented entertainment too. YA novels and CW shows and junk like that.
The West especially has it because the West (and particularly America) obsesses over "teenagers," like you're doing right now.
Sounds like projection on your part. You're the one watching cartoons for teenagers, not me.
There was no projection.
>You're the one watching cartoons for teenagers
Now this is projection. I never said I watch those.
You said you watch anime. So you do.
Anime and cartoons are not the same thing.
Anime is just cartoons for teenagers, though.
Again, they are not the same. You are not making any sense.
You'll understand when you become an adult and stop watching anime.
I am an adult and older than you. I understand this topic far better than you ever will.
If you're an adult, you're the most autistic adult on the planet. lol.
No I'm not.
By the time you hit 30, no amount of autism will keep you interested in anime. I knew weebs back in the day, some of the most socially awkward introverts you could ever meet in your life. They all loved anime as much as you do. And every single one of them grew out of it by the time they were 30. It's inevitable. You can delay your development but you can't prevent it. You won't like anime forever. You can't.
I'm already over 30.
Have you had sex yet? Even the most awkward, autistc weeb I ever knew is married and has a 6-year old kid now.
You're just jumping from one thing to another in a desperate attempt to find something, anything to win this argument. But you can't win, because you're too stupid and ill-informed.
I don't want to win an argument. I just want to understand you. I don't believe you're a troll. I believe you're genuine. I just find your brain fascinating.
Don't try to act superior. You have completely lost the argument and never stood a chance in the first place.
Yeah but you're an adult who still watches anime so you already lost at life lol.
You're a minor or young adult who gets into internet fights over things he couldn't possibly comprehend.
You are not disagreeing, you are just wrong.
OK. What's your favorite anime?
Mine is the one with all the little girls.
You don't know anything about anime.
It's a very complex subject, I know. My gaijin baka brain is too small to comprehend it. Or so I was told by some moron on IRC in 1997, back when it was actually trendy for morons to still watch the shit.
It's doubtful you were even alive in 1997, and again anime is more popular now than it was then.
I was already an adult in 1997. Back when the only place you could buy anime was in comic book stores.
You are not that old.
Try me. I'm probably old enough to be your dad.
It's very obvious from the way you behave that you are at most in the low twenties.
There is no desperate need for distinction, only the reality of a distinction. The distinction is a natural result of the differences between the two.
i'll be waiting on the differences then
>You're just trading talking rabbits for spikey haired teenagers with blue hair and sexualized schoolgirls
if you have try guys testosterone maybe, or if you're a girl. there are masculine stories out there for guys who aren't in the closet
Ooh, I'd like to see this.
Let's see your hand/arm, anon.
I'll be the judge of that.
Don't do it anon! It's a trap!
He'll just call you a beta homosexual and thus win the argument by the laws of Cinemaphile!
I mean, we both know he's not, since he's just LARPing, but it's weird how I only ever see these LARPs on Cinemaphile.
>proceeds to show fist of the north star and grave of the fireflies to my 5 years old
I watched Fist of the North Star when I was a kid. It's absolutely a kid's show. Why wouldn't it be? Imagine a kid being squeamish about Fist of the North Star. If you think exploding heads makes something adult, I have some shitty old Spawn comics I'd like to sell you.
>and in this thread anon admits that he had no parental supervision as a child
not him but my dad watches One Punch Man, he's 50 and a salesman so not introverted
>By the time you hit 30, no amount of autism will keep you interested in anime.
m8, my dad is almost 60 and we still regularly watch anime together.
Pathetic cope.
But is it as pathetic as an adult who watches anime?
I think not.
There is nothing wrong with adults watching anime.
Hard disagree.
as an anime watcher, this is true. i never understood the desperate need for a distinction, that being said, there is a cultural difference in the way the stories are told and the imposed values
Exactly. There's no real difference in cartoons or anime. You're just trading talking rabbits for spikey haired teenagers with blue hair and sexualized schoolgirls.
There's a mile long list of differences. They're almost nothing alike.
>You're just trading talking rabbits for spikey haired teenagers with blue hair and sexualized schoolgirls.
You know nothing whatsoever about any of this.
I have four bookcases filled with anime VHS tapes and DVDs I bought as a teen/20-something. I know plenty. Please stop pretending your interest in weebshit makes you special. Every 14-year old girl on the planet is fluent in the subeject.
>I have four bookcases filled with anime VHS tapes and DVDs I bought as a teen/20-something.
No you don't.
>Please stop pretending your interest in weebshit makes you special.
Anime by definition isn't weeb, and I never said anything about me being special.
>Every 14-year old girl on the planet is fluent in the subeject.
No they aren't. There is an extremely small number of people in the world who can be called fluent in the subject.
>No you don't.
I do.
>Anime by definition isn't weeb, and I never said anything about me being special.
Okay. Then stop saying things like "you know nothing about anime". Literally everybody under the age of 50 knows all about anime. It's not some secret club anymore and hasn't been for decades. It's cringe shit at this point.
>There is an extremely small number of people in the world who can be called fluent in the subject.
Cringe
>I do.
You do not. You loathe anime and have no clue about it.
>Then stop saying things like "you know nothing about anime".
Right after you stop talking about it.
>Literally everybody under the age of 50 knows all about anime.
Even most anime fans do not know even 10% of anime.
>Cringe
No it isn't.
>i'll be waiting on the differences then
The burden of proof is on you to show how they're the same, which I can tell you in advance you will not be able to do.
>You loathe anime
True, but I used to watch it. I literally have 4 bookshelves filled with old 80s and 90s anime shit. I haven't purchased a single tape or DVD since like, 2007 or something. I still have nostalgia for the old shit, though that's a different kind of autism I admit.
>True, but I used to watch it.
No you didn't.
>I literally have 4 bookshelves filled with old 80s and 90s anime shit.
No you don't.
>No you didn't
I used to be a teenager too, moron.
I am much more of an anime fan than you. Your power level can't possibly compare to my Ultra-Super otaku-penis.
>I am much more of an anime fan than you.
No you aren't.
I never said you weren't, moron.
You can't prove your penis is bigger than mine. I would bet money my otaku penis is at least 10 times as powerful as your weak, pathetic, sad wiggly earthworm dick. YOU WILL NEVER BE ON MY LEVEL YOU BAKA!!!!!!!
Is English your first language or are you just like, really, really stupid?
I'm not stupid just because you've lost the argument. That's not how it works.
Please answer the question. It will help the rest of us to understand why you are the way you are. It might even help your "argument", which basically boils down to "ANIME....GOOOOOOD!!!" anyway.
I did answer the question.
>which basically boils down to "ANIME....GOOOOOOD!!!" anyway.
Why are you lying?
No I'm not. But I accept your concession that cartoons and anime are different.
>I didn't answer the question.
You didn't. Are you from an English speaking country? I'm betting you're Mexican. You're Mexican aren't you?
I never said anything that would in any way imply that I'm Mexican, which means you're projecting. And you're still just jumping from one thing to another in an utterly desperate race to find SOMETHING that you can beat me on, which is never going to happen. You are mindbroken.
I figured you were Mexican because of how stupid you are. No offense to all the non-moronic Mexicans out there.
I'm not stupid. I have dominated this argument from the start. You are the one who is stupid, as well as ignorant. And Mexican.
You're so stupid you can't even tell when you're being fricked with.
Please don't embarass yourself any further by pulling the "I was just baiting" card.
I'm not baiting you, I really am trying to win an argument with you and definitely not at all just playing with you and wasting time while I wait for my hard drive to copy files. I promise. I really am upset and angry.
You aren't baiting me, you're just now pretending you are because of how catastrophically you've lost the argument. What even made you think that you could argue about a topic you know nothing of?
I dunno bro, but all I know is that anime is for teenagers and if you're not a teenager and you're watching anime you're clearly some kind of a moronic person. I'm glad you don't actually still watch anime and are clearly just baiting me. Grr how dare you!
morons like you are the only reason I still come to this board. I haven't actually watched cartoons or anime in over a decade. But this place is too good.
I'm not moronic. Your concession is accepted.
>I'm not moronic
We have a difference of opinion here.
No we don't. I am right and you are wrong.
They are both vehicles just as cartoons and anime are both animation. Different kinds of animation.
>No we don't.
Wait, are you agreeing with me that you're moronic? Okay then. Glad we settled on that.
You quoted me out of context:
>No we don't. I am right and you are wrong.
>I have a small penis
Whoa bro, keep that information to yourself, that's really not something you should go around flaunting, y'know?
I never said that. Why are you lying?
>anime is for teenagers
It isn't. We already established this.
>if you're not a teenager and you're watching anime you're clearly some kind of a moronic person
False. Also established already.
>I'm glad you don't actually still watch anime and are clearly just baiting me.
I do watch it and I am not baiting you.
Anon, would you like to come over to my house and watch anime with me? 90% of my anime was made before 1998 but I think we can still be friends.
cg animation and drawn animation are different kinds of animation, anime and cartoons that are hand drawn are the same kind of animation. cg, hand drawn, stop motion, all cartoons
Actually he's right, they ARE totally different! Cartoons are for cool guys like myself who get lots of pussy while anime is meant completely for pathetic LEW-SERS like himself who will die alone in their parent's smelly basement!! Nye-he hehehehehehe!!! Suck on THAT, Funnie!! LOSER!!
>The burden of proof is on you to show how they're the same, which I can tell you in advance you will not be able to do.
they're drawings that move. we both watch anime, my weeb comrade, but only one of us are in denial
A bicycle is a wheeled vehicle. A truck is a wheeled vehicle. They must be the same thing. Right?
>only one of us are in denial
There was no denial, only the truth.
moron.
they are both vehicles, yes and like with anime and cartoons their differences lie in their method and intention, but in the end are both vehicles
Even hentai is for teenagers. No adult would be turned on by that.
False. Adults also watch hentai.
Ones who suffer from pervasive developmental disorder, certainly.
No, and don't act like watching regular porn is something to be proud of.
>Anime is overwhelmingly more adult-oriented than American animation.
I once thought this. When I was a teenager. I used to be you.
I've been on Cinemaphile since 2003 and I don't what this is, either. I Don't even know what that doll anime that was memed to death back then was nor that one about the green haired girl that's the unofficial mascot if this site. I've only been to Cinemaphile maybe 3 timed and I don't remember any of those times. I'm not adverse to anime, there's just some of us that don't have a specific interest in it.
Weirdly enough, I didn't watch it until the Disgaea RPG Collab.
Nah, shounen shit is still more popular
دا څوک دی؟
She's basically the goddess of all magical girls at the end of it.
The most generic of generic animuu.
Madoka isn't generic. Something isn't generic just because you don't like it.
You can't dislike something that can't be distinguished from al the other generic animuu crap.
try watching it some time
its really good and only 12 episodes long
I'm at least 25 years too old to even consider watching that.
Madoka is not a children's show.
I assumed it was for teenagers, like all anime.
All anime isn't for teenagers.
I was all about anime when I was in my teens. Even went to conventions and everything. But I eventually stopped going after I realized I was the oldest one there. And that was when I was in my mid 20s. These days I'm more likely to watch a crappy CG kids movie than I am anime anime. Of course I don't do that either, but I'm just saying.
No offense dude, but this rings completely hollow when you're on Cinemaphile of all places.
I outgrew anime. I didn't outgrow comics and cartoons.
You didn't outgrow it, you lost interest. And it makes no sense to outgrow anime but not cartoons, which are overwhelmingly aimed at children.
Films like the stuff you see by Dreamworks or Disney are appealing to children as well as adults. Not teenagers, though. Teenagers watch anime.
>Films like the stuff you see by Dreamworks or Disney are appealing to children as well as adults.
Why are white people so obsessed with making it okay for adults to watch children's media and pretend that it's deep?
You can't pull this shit and then at the same time get upset that people don't take animation seriously as a medium when you insist on jerking off exclusively over children's media.
Again, this rings completely hollow when you're on Cinemaphile.
my condolences
Your inability to distinguish things is not the fault of anime. It's your problem.
It's basically a subversion of magical girl anime's with the main thesis of "If little girl's had to actually fight life threatning monsters wouldn't that be fricked up and traumatic" taken entirely straight.
It's a great show even as someone who doesn't watch anime.
Yeah but then you still have to put up with that hideous Japanese art style.
It’s no more hideous than the average western style, in fact the animation quality runs circles around 95% of cartoons
>I dont know who this random anime girl is but the only way to "win" a fight with a toon is to out toon them
Brainlet understanding of the fricking toonforce.
Toonforce Rule #1: If it's funnier for you to win, you win.
>Toonforce Rule #2: If it's funnier for you to lose, you lose.
If you "play along" in a way that makes it funnier for the toon to lose, then a toon will fricking self-destruct. Their powers become a curse or geas at that point. Doesn't matter how damn strong it makes them. Everything they do will backfire at that point.
The problem with your setup is that it only matters until the curtain closes and Porky Pig says, "That's All Folks!" Then the toon re-materializes for round 2. Even if they die they'll just come back, and while you might be able to defeat them this way multiple times it's still the Red Queen's Race. You have to get lucky every time, they only have to get lucky once, but you can never, ever defeat them permanently.
Counterpoint: How many times does a toon have a rematch against a one off side character? And if you do it enough times you'll establish a bit with the toon and they'll be trapped loosing to you without you having to even try.
>How many times does a toon have a rematch against a one off side character?
Answer: as many as they want.
Silly question, because if the same person keeps trying to stop them they just become the next recurring villain. And that's where you really run into some deep shit for the non-toon character because toons rarely lose. It's what makes it such a surprise shocker the few times they do. If you wind up as the next Elmer Fudd to them then you're not going to be able to score a victory over and over again no matter how much funnier you try to make it.
>toons rarely lose.
Depends on the toon. Also depends on the character they're up against.
Elmer Fudd is a toon. You seem to have missed that.
>Silly question, because if the same person keeps trying to stop them they just become the next recurring villain.
Not if they frame their relationship such that the toon is the butthole, which isn't difficult as most toons are buttholes.
>Depends on the toon.
We're specifically talking about Bugs Bunny. Apparently you missed that?
>Elmer Fudd is a toon.
Actually more specifically he's the antagonist. If you become Bugs Bunny's antagonist you fall under certain toon rules. And that, I think, is where you're tripping yourself up. Your idea is to use toon rules against the toon. If, however, you trip other criteria, such as being the de facto villain, other rules fall into place.
You simply can't have it both ways. Just as your whole notion that you just frame the toon as an butthole somehow works when you also said most toons are buttholes. When dealing with Bugs you have to remember that one of his famous lines is, "Ain't I a stinker?" Him being an butthole is part of his whole character, and he wins anyway not despite it but most often because of it.
Trying to defeat a toon by relying on toon rules is dangerous and extremely unreliable. You may end up triggering one of Bugs Bunny's rare defeat conditions, or there's a number of other possibilities.
1. circular screen collapse to black when suddenly Buggs shoves the circle back open and shouts, "Hey, this ain't the way the story ends, Doc!" and proceeds to win anyway.
2. you win but suddenly pull off your own face revealing it's a mask with Bugs underneath. He turns to the "camera" and says, "Eh, what did you expect? I am the star of this picture!"
3. (perhaps the worst) you win but suddenly a giant pencil begins to wipe you from existence. Zoom out to Bugs sitting at an easel and holding the pencil. He could proceed to erase you from reality or even recreate you in any way that suits his fancy.
That's only a 25% victory condition, which isn't all that great. On top of that toons are episodic by nature, so even if one dies it'll just revert back to status quo for the next episode. I'm not sure there is a way to put them down permanently by their own rules.
In which case Bugs can't lose, on the grounds that women aren't funny
>on the grounds that women aren't funny
Dude, I am fricking explaining to you why that's a fricking bad thing for the fricking toon in the post you are responding to. You aren't getting it.
>Toonforce Rule #2: If it's funnier for you to lose, you lose.
It's funnier for him to lose, which it obviously would have to be if "she can't be funny", then he fricking loses.
The funnier character doesn't win. The character for which it would be funnier to win wins and the character for which it would be funnier to lose loses. Learn to fricking read.
>We're specifically talking about Bugs Bunny. Apparently you missed that?
No. I didn't. You were making a dipshit blanket argument I was responding to. I wasn't prognosticating on this specific fight, but if you want my take, it would be funnier to see Bugs eat shit, something he did on occasion.
>Actually more specifically he's the antagonist.
Eh, debatable. A lot of Elmer cartoons followed him. He would qualify more as a villain protagonist. Bugs would be the antagonist. You seem to like fricking up basic bullshit.
>If, however, you trip other criteria, such as being the de facto villain, other rules fall into place.
Just taking shit in stride would trip up a toon generally, Bugs included.
You're talking battle vs war here and once you gave a character like Madoka meta awareness, she'd absolutely shitcan Bugs, toonforce or no. Sure Bugs could easily use toonforce as a lifeboat, but if he turns around and tries to use it to win a rematch, it will just be Madoka at the easel just like Elmer was in Rabbit Rampage.
>You were making a dipshit blanket argument I was responding to
So you didn't lie it personally and got your panties in a twist. Got it.
>Bugs would be the antagonist.
Bugs would be a villain protagonist, but more likely sociopathic hero. You seem to like fricking up basic bullshit.
>You're talking battle vs war
Not really, given I have repeatedly pointed out to you that winning the war against a toon is impossible. You can, at most, squeak out a victory in the battle. But they'll just come back. They always come back. Got it now?
As for Elmer at the easel (which was a callback to Bugs being at the easel), again, it's possible for Bugs to lose, but you've already admitted it is rare. So again you're banking on a hail mary victory FOR THE BATTLE. Even if you win they'll just pop up again and you're back to square one. You can jibber as much as you like about this character. The problem is in her universe people die, for real. In his? Death is a joke and never permanent.
>Bugs would be a villain protagonist
If the plot doesn't follow him, he's not the protagonist. Most shorts featuring Elmer began and ended following Elmer. Elmer was the protagonist of the short. He got the most screentime. He was the focus of the most action. The story followed him. He was the protagonist.
He was also usually trying to murder Bugs for no fricking reason, making him a fricking villain, to Bugs's antihero, who would also acted as his antagonist.
In no fricking way was Bugs a villain protagonist and for you to argue that is just an insane misunderstanding of basic bullshit about what words mean.
>play along
Doing this with the intent of trying to outsmart the "rules" would just make it funnier for the person doing it to still lose
>A god vs a toon
The toon
>If you think narrative layers equate to dimension layer
Buggs
>If you don't
Madoka
Wrong board
>Cinemaphile
>allowing fun
Why do you think we get so many East vs West, anime crossover and Dragonball gay seething at Superman threads? Cinemaphile is Cinemaphile's designated shitting street.
Win what?
Your heart
Bro that's a stupid contest, it's not even close to fair.
>Nyeah, what's up, Doka?
Western over chinkshit, always
Amen
If these two ever actually met in an anime or cartoon twitter morons would lose their minds over the fricking juckstopuconstipation or whatever like they do with Kingdom hearts.
Give us a fun match like Excel vs Daffy Duck
"You're right, Daffy, it IS Duck Season!"
>holds up a jar labeled "duck seasoning"
Is this pre or post-contract?
>Pre contract
Bugs hands Madoka a stick of dynamite and she just cries and dies
>Post contract
Which one because she made about 1 million of them. We don't even know what her wish was in any of them except for the last one.
>We don't even know what her wish was in any of them except for the last one.
Her first wish was to save the cat she holds in the intro after it got run over by a car
How do you know this? I watched this anime many times and I don't remember this ever being in it.
drama CD lore
What the hell is a drama cd?
japanese thing
a lot of anime have them, eva has them, idk i think they're just audio recordings of the voice actors and a new story, but they often have info not in the main series
Audio dramas never stopped being popular in Japan, and that's a good thing. I wish they were still popular in the West.
Look at that face.
This whole thing got way out of hand because Homura looked at that down syndrome girl and said "I have to protect her"
Also this means that the very first thing Homura does in every timeline is immediately bolt to save that cat
Madoka would win.
Before the accusations fly from morons like (You), let me explain. Bugs's toonforce mainly operates on karmic justice. 9/10 he wins in a scrap against an instigator like Yosemite Sam, Elmer Fudd, Taz, Marvin the Martian, and so on. Even in the rare times where BUGS starts the fight, its with people that consistently wronged him in the past or bully other characters. The only time Bugs loses is when he picks a fight with someone that didn't bother him and has no good reason to start that fight, like with Cecil Turtle, who consistently mogs Bugs due to the bunny's own hubris that kicks in.
Madoka is from a fricked up magical girl series and despite the psychological and physical horror she has a heart of fricking gold. She became God just to give everyone the happy ending she deserved and attempt to free everyone from Kyubey's fricked up game. It is EXTREMELY unlikely that Madoka would start a fight with Bugs with her saint-like patience and her large heart dedicated to helping those in need. That leaves Bugs as the much more likely instigator, where he would try and fail to beat Madoka because the karma would fall upon him.
But lets be honest Bugs would make Kyubey his bunny b***h across time and space for all eternity
>Physical and PSYCHOLOGICALLY hOrrOr
I hate you redditars so much. Thinking that being scared is cool. I heard one of you call mario 64 scary once. Bunch of pansies.
This is the actual answer. When Bugs is the jerk, instigator, and bully in a situation that's when he'll lose due to toon force karma. As you said he can only instigate and win if it's against a consistent bully character so he's still punching up.
Bugs winning against a sad little girl with a huge heart who sacrifices herself for others isn't funny at all. It just makes Bugs the bully to fight her. When Bugs is the wienery bully he loses.
>It's a "pushover girl wants to be less nice and turns into a bully" episode.
How long would she survive?
The only way I could see this happening is if Bugs decides to pick a fight with God following a long streak of bad luck, resulting in a comical series of events in which Bugs tries to get back at God through various acts until he eventually gets fed up and somehow gets to Heaven where he’s shocked to meet Madoka
This makes want to see Bugs versus Kriemhild Gretchen.
Madoka is still bound by some laws of the universe. Bugs isn't.
Who instigates the fight? Bugs literally can't lose if he's in the right. He can only lose if he's the one being the jerk.
This is the only answer
We have to assume this is like Mickey versus Bugs where an otherwise well meaning innocent party has done something unintentionally aggressive
The Bugs Bunny pic is from the same short where he gets his bones broken lol
A lot of people here are gonna disregard Madoka for being an anime but what no one ever tells you is how beautiful its animation is. Like from promo materials and shit I thought it was gonna be just an anime, whatever, but imagine my surprise when the witches show up. Gekidan Inu Curry is awesome. Rebellion is probably the most beautifully animated movie I've ever seen.
Literally the first scene in checkerboard world was the quickest I've ever been hooked.
This
I'd post a certain scene closer to the ending but I don't want to spoil it for anyone
Also I think all these Youtube uploads look like shit, find some high quality torrents when you watch this
they better gib the movie soon
It would go about as well as Mario and Luigi Vs Sephiroth
Peter Griffin would beat Bugs Bunny
Bugs, he's got toon physics. Modoka has anime physics... and anime girls can bleed.
Bugs can bleed. It's just too hard for you gays to acheive.
Bugs Bunny vs. generic uguu alien bug pedobait creature #6524634
Madoka isn't generic and has nothing to do with pedophilia, you dumb pedo.
>Madoka isn't generic and has nothing to do with pedophilia
That's what I said, and it's the truth.
Whatever you say, bruno, just remember to keep your laptop hidden when the police raid your parents basement
You are a pedophile and you are projecting.
Only pedos watch anime though. Just sayin'.
Pedos like you raid Cinemaphile every day to project your pedophilia onto anime.
Something tells me you get called a pedo on the internet a lot. An awful lot.
By pedophile propagandists like you.
Bugs Bunny would win because that anime girl can't breath without a nose.
>doesn't know how to breathe.
Look who's here.
It isn’t even a contest, ffs, Bugs could fricking outwit Kyubey
Here's the thing. Bugs Bunny has toon force but also it has to be funny for him to beat Madoka. Usually for Bugs Bunny to defeat someone they have to prove themselves needlessly antagonistic to Bugs to justify force, or else he's usually a jobber. Whenever Bugs is portrayed as morally grey or in the wrong he basically gets fricked over hard.
So in order for Madoka to beat Bugs she simply has to not instigate the fight. Or she has to be incredibly reasonable to him and his grievances. And maybe just not brag about being a god, since pride also subjects you to cartoony punishment. But if she does all that she's basically untouchable to bugs.
What is that creepy thing that Bugs is pointing at?
Kiubey did nothing wrong.
Bugs dresses up as Homura and tricks Madoka into trapping herself into an anti-magic cage
In the end they both won as Madoka befriended bugs as he outwits that darn cat. The only loser is Cinemaphile having a silly conversation. Furthermore it’s quite embarrassing seeing said conversations when this board had a Baby Einstein thread earlier, let that sink in for a moment
Bugs would win but there wouldn't really be any sort of harm done to either side on account of cartoon physics due to bugs being present. Hell, I doubt a fight would even happen on account of madoka being too much of a cinnamon roll to start anything or keep any sort of conflict going.
this anon is right
>Madoka even has the power to mindbreak anons in the physical world
Yeah I'm thinking she wins
Man, the amount of people here that don’t know Madoka is crazy. This shit’s like a decade old. It’s like not recognizing Hatsune Miku.
Bugs, no contest.
Bugs loses to Madoka but wins handily against Homura even in her demon form because she'd actually give him opportunities to frick with her
But yeah, Bugs. He could just stop and tell the animator to erase her or something. His god-like fourth wall powers are topped only by Popeye.
Hey guys is Bugs Bunny winning or not
Pic related
just delete the posts from these two guys holy frick
It's clearly all one samegay. And I should know, I'm one of them.
>when two people are arguing it's always one person
Where does this meme come from and why won't it go away?
What would that accomplish? So we can have an adult discussion about the cartoon rabbit fighting the pedobait girl?
Yes.
Anime is for teenagers and you can't convince me otherwise uwu
It isn't.
Frick you, I make the rules and I say it is. You lose again, homosexual!
Anime, like cartoons, can be for any age.
And anime, like Sonic, is for autistic morons like you, Boco. Shut up and go draw some more Amy Rose hate porn.
No, you lost.
I'm gonna send your grandmother naked pictures of you.
Are you now going to start acting like a schizo? Do you think that's somehow going to help you win the argument? Just give it up already.
>And anime, like Sonic, is for autistic morons
No it isn't.
>Are you now going to start acting like a schizo?
I'm not acting. I'm a 47 year old posting on Cinemaphile.
No you aren't.
You'd have to be a schizo to be 47 years old and still posting on Cinemaphile. Wouldn't you agree, anon?
Especially if I were a 47 year old who had absolutely ZERO interest in cartoons or anime. One might wonder why the frick I would be posting here in the first place unless I were IN FACT a schizo. Wouldn't you agree, anon????
You aren't 47 and you aren't a schizo, you're just desperately grasping at whatever straws you can in a mad attempt to somehow miraculously eke out a victory, long after you lost the argument on the actual topic.
But I don't want to lose the argument 🙁
You already did.
Oh ok. As long as you keep responding to me that's all that matters. I'm bored and desperate for any kind of engagement.
What are some good anime I should watch?
You are not baiting me. It's just one of your desperate ploys.
I'm just responding to you. Seriously, name some good anime.
I really like City Hunter and Space Adventure Cobra.
It's okay to lose an argument sometimes
Thread background music
Easily Freleng and McKimson Bugs. Anime characters are socially inept like Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam making it easy for Bugs to scam Madoka out of power. He'd just hate himself and align with Qyubey pit it and Madoka out of power. I am sure that Piccolo or Lupin are the only two characters who can force Bugs to tie because they're both unpredictable.
"Eeeeh, if ya don't mind me askin', doc....eh, what happened to yer nose? Did a you lose a fight with a rat or somethin'?"
"uguu hello bunny-san! sorry my english is not very good but i will try to explain, you see I come from a magical country where people don't know how to draw noses properly uguu ^^"
They know how to draw noses.
The jap fears the sniffer
My vote's Madoka, as I don't think she'd do anything to cause him to start a fight or win? And that's how you beat Bugs, by not playing and just being a honestly unabashed good person with just pure good morals and goals. Which Madoka is. At the same time, its hard to say Madoka would "win" as there wouldn't be a fight to be won, but if Bugs tried to go on the offensive for the sake of being funny, it wouldn't really work as it wouldn't be funny to beat up a person who's just pure good.
Bugs Bunny vs Hamiru would be funnier.
Homura would lose without question though. She's not a saint and she would have many reasons to randomly pick a fight with Bugs. Thus she'd lose because its funny.
Madoka's tricky thanks to neither of them wanting to start a fight. Like if Madoka starts a fight with this funny rabbit, that would be out of character and go against her beliefs - if Bugs starts the fight, it would make him a bully for picking on a kindhearted sympathetic person and cause Toon Karma to beat him up. If Madoka starts the fight, she loses because it'd be funny. If Bug's starts the fight he loses because the combined karma of doing bad to a good person while also dealing with Madoka's built up karma would just defeat him by toon laws. I do believe though in the instance where Bug's karma catches up to him, she'd just forgive him for his silly actions, give him a hug, and everything would be okay in the end for him and they can get some carrot cake together.
Homura would go full Wily E Coyote and that's why it would be funny.
Why does nobody remember it?
We must go wider.
Anime is only for teenagers.
respond pls
No it isn't. And notice how you keep engaging me as soon as I stop responding to you? You are so desperate.
>you are so desperate.
Yes I am. I'm very lonely, sad and pathetic.
Now, what are some anime you like? I asked you three times.
Anime is only for teenagers and autists.
respond pls
Absolutely pathetic. And you're even still trying with the original argument even though you were completely blown away and have nothing new to add. What exactly makes you think this situation is still salvageable?
Have you ever seen Golgo 13? The show I mean, not the film.
If you still watch anime you're a homosexual.
respond pls
I'll give you one more chance to make a serious, detailed, good faith attempt at proving your anti-anime position. If you respond with anything else, you concede the argument and admit that I was right about everything and you were wrong about everything. You will not get a second chance.
"Hey, FUNNIE!! I herd you liked watching Japanese ANIME! Hye-he-hehehehehe!! Wow, what a LOSER!! only a losser homosexual like YOU would watch something as lame as anime, FUNNIE."
I forgot to add:
respond pls[spoiler]
Sorry[/spoiler]
You concede the argument. You admit that I am right and you are wrong. Now I will close the tab and you'll cry here for hours because you can't continue your desperate attempt to somehow win. You will leave here knowing that you are a loser.
I admit that I love you. Can we be friends now?
Also, pls don't close the tab. I have many more anti-anime arguments I swear.
Can we all admit that Ojamajo Doremi is better then Madoka Magica?
If madoka and bugs both agreed to actually fight, bugs no question. Toonforce>godullshit
Would she be scared and cry when she thinks she's about to die from Bugs Bunny?
bugs would lose because this
But what if it's one of those episodes where the pushover girl wants to be less nice and ends up turning into a major bully, then she starts the fight?
here’s how I see it
>bugs is minding his business and gets harassed by one of the magical girls, maybe by homu who thinks he’s qb
>he fricks around with her until madoka notices
>madoka despite being pure hearted still goes against bugs trying to protect her friend (who is at fault)
>bugs fricks with madoka and wins
Maybe it’s cheating with a third party, but bugs would need to do something like that if he wants to win
So, does she piss herself?
Maybe
Obviously
Third parties do make this more in Bug's favor for sure. I think only Madoka and Tatsuya are like the only ones in that universe that have pure enough hearts to avoid starting the fight. If they get dragged in it though, yeah they lose 100%.
I hope bugs and madoka become friends though
Idk if they become friends in the context where Madoka's friends are hurt or are in danger causing her to lose, cause I think she'd be dead. But in the ending where Bug's loses for attacking Madoka, they'd be friends because Madoka would forgive him and they'd get carrot cake to celebrate!
Bugs starts the fight, gets plenty of comedic hits in, but because he's the one who instigated the battle he'd ultimately be the villain of the episode making him lose in some absurd way in the end.
How many people have repeated this throughout the thread? A hundred? A thousand?
Even though you stopped responding to me, I know you're still in this thread watching me,Funnie! You can't possibly go on living knowing what a LOSER you are for liking something as pathetic as anime!! Nye-he hehehehehe!!!! By the way, Patty Mayonnaise was over at my place last night and she was watching cartoons with ME! Yeah, that's right, we turned on the Cartoon Network and watched Teen Titans Go! and The Amazing World of Gumball. And then we had SEX!! She let me cum right inside her, Funnie! She also told me she doesn't like you anymore since she found out what a huge weeb you are!! Nye-he hehehehe!! Wow, man, imagine getting dumped by your girl for watching badly drawn pedo-bait cartoons. What a LOSER!!!
>fun idea with 2 beloved characters
>Cinemaphile has to make it autistic for not reason
Cinemaphile is the autism board for a reason.
VS debates are inherently not fun
Madoka may be a god, can she beat the one and not true god الله؟ I don’t think so
Bugs Bunny would win because the girl would be too busy getting raped by pedophile weeaboos to fight back.
I don't think Bugs would execute her while she's getting raped. Would be hilarious though.
Madoka got mogged by her yandere stalker, and toonforce > everything (except maybe spiral power).
Toonforce only wins "when it's funny" and since that's subjective to be fair that's why a lot of people despise it being mentioned as a "thing" in vs. battles. The same toon character that just beat a god in one short can get beaten up by a baby in another short if that's funny.
With Bugs, it's pretty consistent that if he's the bully in a situation or the wienery instigator, he loses. That's why he loses to Cecil, he's trying to frick Cecil over and overconfident about kicking Cecil's ass so he loses.
It's not even really about Madoka Magica, Bugs' own toonforce would defeat him with toon karma if he tried to beat up a good-hearted little girl. Unless you write some scenario where it makes sense but that's all these battles.
Ironically low-level magical girl Madoka might be more guaranteed a win than Godoka. Once Madoka becomes a god, Bugs at least has his plucky underdog status and it would be funny if he could do some things against her. The problem is that Madoka's so nice it's hard to imagine her "bullying" Bugs without being massively OOC.
Now Devil Homura for example is as powerful as Godoka and a reality warper, but by toon rules Bugs would win because she's morally questionable at least and acts wienery, which would be enough for Bugs to take her probably.
Controlling reality and time means nothing when your opponent ignores said reality and time
I think Bugs would only frick around with her if doing so was actually about fricking over Kyubey because its antics annoyed Bugs.
What anime character has the most toon force? Haruhara Haruko?
what do toon force exactly even means?
script conveniences?
Script conveniences but specifically only when the result would be funny
Arale from Dr Slump, easy
Madoka beats Bugs
Bugs beats Homura
Popeye beats all
This makes it clear Popeye is nothing special. The true power is spinach itself.
is Cinemaphile the only board you can see a bunch of amerimutts who unironically think looking down on anime would make them sound more mature on Cinemaphile?
this literally makes me blush
The only plausible conflict I can imagine is Bugs takes a wrong turn at Albuquerque and ends up in Madoka's divine realm. She introduces herself and explains her history and Bugs calls it moronic.
"Now let me get this straight, missy. You made a deal with a cat and now you show up when all the other magic girls are about to eat it and carry them off to the big warren in the sky before they can be transformed into witches?"
"Yes."
"Ain't that kinda stupid?"
"What do you mean Mr. Bunny?"
"Well if witches ain't around anymore, haven't you just caused something else to spring up to kill magic girls in their place?"
"I guess I'd never thought about it that way before." Or maybe she has, it seems like something that might have been covered in the side media."
Whatever is funnier
I do not care for moeshit
Ni I don't care if it's a deconstruction it is still moeshit
Any reason why janny is leaving this up?
it's cartoons why wouldn't it be up
If in Bugs Bunny's universe:
Whatever will be the funniest
If in Modoka's universe:
Whoever is in the right
That isn't true.
deez nuts