Who's going to take control of our beloved Giedi Prime now that the noble family has been murdered by the Atreides tyrant?
Who's going to take control of our beloved Giedi Prime now that the noble family has been murdered by the Atreides tyrant?
Who's going to take control of our beloved Giedi Prime now that the noble family has been murdered by the Atreides tyrant?
spooders
>build up fat man antagonist
>emperor humiliates him at the end, victory is cheap
>introduce ottermode chad antagonist
>lamely loses a knife fight at the end and dies
I know fat man comes back as a ghost personality in his sister or whatever
I don't blame villynuff for this, the plot of dune just sucks for a film
>the plot of dune just sucks for a film
it would work better as a 3 season, 10 episodes a season, miniseries on hbo with lots of sex violence and autistic infodumps
he overpowered and nearly killed the Kwisatz Haderach, who's basically a demi-god with precognition.
It's been 20 years since I read the book, but I vaguely remember Paul killed him pretty easily and anticlimactically.
I was rooting for Feyd
Well, because he refused to cheat he set up conditions that made the jihad more of an inevitability.
But yea it wasn’t that memorable a fight scene, most interesting bit was the count/assassin. Forget his name actually.
But that was interesting, he 99% could have killed Paul but refused to be the emperor’s champion.
Bet they didn’t even include his mmm mm aah aah ahh mm’ing ass in the movie.
Bizarrely his wife is in the film, but count fenring is completely absent
What would Fenring even do ffs
he was a failed kwisatz haderach, his special power was that paul can't see him in the future so he could feasibly kill paul
>Giedi Prime
Why is the planet black and why are the scenes in b&w? It looks cool, but why?
They have a black sun so everything is negative
Like the Soundgarden song!
>"Black hole sun, won't you come..."
Hey that's a good one I have it saved on my phone
Is that a poem written by a horny homosexual?
No but your autobiography is
>black son
Cuck planet
their sun gives off infra red light. it was an excuse for them to film with a cool infra red camera
>their sun gives off infra red light.
So does every sun
The area was a sand floor, and it would have looked too similar to Arrakis and confused viewers that they were on a different planet.
The sand could've been black sand or just white sand, it didn't have to be orange sand
This is the correct answer, Villeneuve knows his normalhomosexual goycattle audience
to look cool
>It looks cool
That's why.
Villabono wanted to film it in black and white but was afraid the studio will colorize it back later. So he filmed it in infra red to totally prevent this from happening.
Maybe the industrial pollution or whatever fricked up the atmosphere so it refracts light differently?
I think it was explicitly stated in the movie that their star was different from a regular sun. But that could work too since it seems like an industrial nightmare planet
Did you not enjoy the b&w splooge fireworks? WERE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
>WERE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Who are you quoting
Don't they have more Harkkoners
The bloodline is secured, yes, but will the new Emperor allow it to rule?
same thing with the atreides, they're wiped out and you never hear about their planet again for the rest of the series. like, don't people still live there and shit?
Jessica went back to it in Messiah
How populated are Geidi Prime and Caladan supposed to be?
I watched Dune 2 yesterday and it's FAR worse then Dune 1, they basically threw out the book and just made up stupid shit.
i know, i wanted to see a four year old talk shit to the emperor
Whats shaddam like in the book
no, chud, they did not. they improved on the book by getting rid of talking ninja babies and other dumb shit.
>improved on the book
>end the movie with zendaya's shit face acting like shit
kys
Chani stilgar and jessica were all completely ruined
The rushed relationship montage and then chani immediately becoming salty for the rest of the movie was pretty funny
Chani is literally the only thing ruining an otherwise perfect movie
I wish Chani was portrayed by a cute arab-persian chick
If you imagine her to be an intentional joke character the movie is more enjoyable, it's funny that people say stilgar was the comedic character and he was but mostly because he makes chani look moronic
>stilgar is presented as a useful idiot the entire movie
>hes the only character that is 100% correct throughout
what did they mean by this
that's where the next part comes in.
She's too revolting to be funny but with that said, when Paul says he will marry Irulan I chuckled
>movie literally ends on a shot of her being a cucked girlboss
Bravo vile nude
>cucked girlboss
Just a cuck
never read the book because I heard that the prose was bad
I really liked both films and every change that Villeneuve made was a good one as far as I can tell
It reads well iirc. Herbert was a smart guy and you can tell.
Isn't a bit abrupt?
is the narrative abrupt? Sure, the book glosses over action in favor of dialogue and internal monologue. Is the prose abrupt? I wouldn't say so at all; Frank intentionally wrote it in a cadence that mimics speech (which makes audiobooks of the series work well tbh)
Girlboss Paul hating Chani was so stupid
Thufir actor talked up his part during the strike of 2023, then he's cut in 2024. Boner killer
That guy who sharpen the knifes
are black suns real? are there kino b&w planets out there?
>are black suns real?
Idk, but the idea of different colored suns intrigues me too. Like, how does a blue sun effect Superman?
Suns are stars and there are multiple colored stars, yeah. Idk anything black ones though
My research says black stars, brown stars, pink stars, and dirt stars are all the same thing
Yeah but being anywhere near infrared star would bur your retinas. It's the same as looking directly into invisible or laser.
Lolno. Stars emit a wide spectrum of wavelengths from radio to gamma rays. They are all hydrogen/helium fusion engines.
Grimes
Gurney Halleck and people from Caladan colonize Geidi Prime.
Why are they all white and bald when everyone else is a mixture?
Style choice, their own beauty standard, if you will. Jessica was the Baron's daughter and still had hair and eyebrows
>kys
Is there a good rip out yet?
It's already on Digital in 4K UHD.
>You fought well, Atreides...
>*real humanbean.mp4 starts playing*
>Power over spice is power over all
>Paul has power over the spice
>Great houses refuse him as Emperor
Villeneuve is a hack and his changes are moronic
Do they bend the knee in the books?
The Fremen go on a Jihad and kill 60 billion people but it was far from the worst possible future that Paul foresaw and he couldn't do anything to stop it
In the book, there are representatives of the Spacing Guild present in the Emperor's entourage, who realize how deathly serious Paul's threats to destroy the Spice really are, and they communicate to the Great Houses not to resist as threatening Paul could lead to t he destruction of intergalactic civilization. The Great Houses then more or less accept him as Emperor, because it's the path of least resistance. However, Fremen radicals within the Cult of Muad'dib wage jihad against the rest of the galaxy because secular submission isn't enough, they demand the rest of the universe worship Muad'dib as a God.
In the movie, Denis wanted the jihad to begin immediately, at the end of this movie, rather than between films, so the Great Houses reject Paul which gives the Fremen an excuse to immediately start attacking them, even if it makes Paul look like he's bluffing about being willing to destroy the spice
could Paul not convince the Freemen to not do so?
>"your Christ commands you to not wage war, scarce skirmishes are ok but not a holy war"
That didn't even work in the Bible.
>Jesus tells disciples Romans are going to arrest him and they should let it happen and not resist
>Romans show up five minutes later
>Peter grabs a sword and cuts off one's ear
>Jesus sews it back on the guy and sighs dramatically
The Fremen have had jihad boners for generations, even their God can't deny them that rape orgy.
of course it didn't work in the bible. jesus was as israelite
Kek poor jesus. Although cursing the fig tree was cringe
Eventually. Paul has the Guild in his pocket (another thing Villeneuve kinda forgets to include), so he can hop from planet to planet, crushing each one in turn, while his enemies are isolated from each other and can never attack him directly.
this doesnt happen in the movie.
he orders the fremen to do another battle when they just finished a big one,and they have to fight the entire army of the universe,with the houses still having spice stored to give a good fight and being able to support each other.
Villeneuve didn't forget anything, that was obviously deliberate
Why do you think he deliberately excluded the Guild? Was it "too weird" like everything else unique about Dune?
The obvious conclusion is that he intended to streamline the story. But you sound a little irritated, take five
>he intended to streamline the story.
Dunc1&2 have a combined runtime that is almost an hour longer than the scifi Miniseries version (dunc also had 10x the budget), yet the Miniseries included far more material from the book, without feeling overburdened by exposition or crowded with characters. So I guess I don't have much sympathy for Dennis' excuses.
Because denis villehack adds new scenes which are not in the book. Removing book content and adding random shit is... le good!
It could have made more sense if Villeneuve had been willing to spend a few minutes elaborating on the space politics of the setting, instead of insisting on even more lingering closeups of Chani's ugly fat face.
Spice is what makes travel throughout space possible which allows the Atriedes and their Fremen horde to attack all those planets.
Messiah and children of Dune are shit books and the only interesting part about them is the fremen jihad taking place elsewhere. I feel like this is a set up so that in the next films they can have epic battles showing what's going on beyond gay ass Dune
Muad'Dib and the Fremen will take that planet off your hands, Harkonnen scum.
All the cute bald girls
Finally watched it. Bad Dune movie
List of characters ruined
>Jessica
>Chani
>Stilgar
>Paul
>Alia
>Guild Navigators completely missing from the story
>Gurney Hallek/Thufir Hawatt/Traitor Jessica Storyline missing
>Most of pauls storyline is missing
>Movie Jessica encourages paul to drink water of life
Bad movie
>Jessica
The frick she's one of the highlights of the movie
Not if you like dune. Her character is almost a completely different person compared to the source.
Jessica completely fades into irrelevance after she drinks the water of life in the book. Her going full-on Bene Gesserit manipulator both fits with her later characterization in the books and gives her more to do in the movie's narrative.
I don't remember her even showing up in Messiah, I thought she just hung out on Caladan with Gurney while they both shook their heads about the whole galactic jihad thing
she's not in Messiah but plays a significant supporting role in Children, where it's established she's returned to the Bene Gesserit as a legitimate Reverend Mother and her conflict with Alia is what sets off the Fremen civil war
>Jessica completely fades into irrelevance after she drinks the water of life in the book
Yeah and he should have left her that way instead of ruining her character. Actually manipulating paul into drinking the water of life instead of being horrified when he chose to do it himself.
You're doing that midwit thing where you just engage with adaptation as a bullet points list of what was and wasn't in the book and any change from the source material is inherently a bad thing
Jessica in Dunc2 is a better, more engaging character than Jessica was in the back half of Dune, where she literally does nothing except have one scene with harah where they lament that Alia is seen as a freak by the rest of the Fremen. And given the benefit of foresight of where her character goes in later stories, Jessica playing into her Bene Gesserit training to manipulate people for her own ends is good setup for her role in Children (if they ever get that far)
By "manipulating people for her own ends" you mean teaching the Corrino heir some Bene Gesserit techniques and methods? It's not really related to what she does in Dunc 2
>I like my fanfiction better than the source material
Too bad its supposed to be an adaptation of the source material and not person fanfiction. Thats why its a bad movie.
>adaptation is just slavish devotion to source material and you're not allowed to change anything
I bet $5 that you LOVE Lynch's Dune despite that movie showing even less reverence for the book
Good, you lose that bet, Lynchs dune is complete shit. The only passable adaptation ever made was the miniseries which was so much better than any of the movies that its not even close.
The miniseries is cheap as frick and every actor in it who isn't the Baron sucks ass
>showing even less reverence for the book
Frank Herbert collaborated on the script with Lynch and loved it besides the very ending with the rain, it's totally unfair to say it had little reverence for the book even if it's a flawed adaptation
nah,Ferguson carries the two movies decently while the other actors dont understand what they are doing.
Fergerson stands there with no facial expression for 90% of her Dunc 2 scenes
Better Zendaya squinting every 5 minutes toshow she's acting
So the sun is only black because of some weird space pollution right? If you went to space and looked it would still be the yellow dwarf that Geidi Prime canonically orbits? Or does Denis not know that the Dune Universe is all set on real stars within 500 ly of Earth?
I don't care, nerd
Its an infrared star, whatever that means. You're not supposed to see infrared light but who knows in such quantities
OK but you can look at Geidi Prime's star right now with a telescope and it's not "infrared"
It’s bullshit, blackbody radiation curve will have plenty of visible light if there’s infrared.
If there’s no visible light, then they’re orbiting something which doesn’t really qualify as a star, like a brown dwarf.
Does the books explain if that's not the case? Not that it matters, just a negative light sun sounds cool enough to be worth having in the story
In the books it's 36 Ophiuchi B which is a real star in the real sky you can go look at right now
Is that from the KJA bullshit?
Don’t remember it from actual canon.
nta but I actually remember it now that he mentions it. I remember it being called Ophiucus in the books, but it's been a while
It isn’t something in the books, it’s made up for the movie.
Ripped off from the no man’s sky game I expect, worth it for the cool visuals I guess.
Far as sf goes it’s quackery, but kinda funny to take issue with it when dune universe violates one of the biggest 3 for sf, being nonlinear time. And genetic memories was weird too.
The move is all style no substance. Villeneuve should have cut some of the dozens of long shots of paul walking through the desert and added some actual plot instead.
Seriously. This movie has nothing of what actually makes dune good. Its just setpiece after setpiece with visuals for normies to basedface at.
What makes Dune good?
who's going to take care of feyd's bald b***h brigade now
>movie baron
>"you die like an animal chudfather" and gets stabbed by gay twink
>book baron
>gets killed by ninja baby girl with his soul in her
they did my boy dirty
St. Alia of the Occasionally Talking to Her Mother
An eloquently speaking toddler stabbing an obese man in the neck with a needle would look ridiculous on screen
A child killing a perverted, obese rapist would upset most of the Hollywood producers
True, they're probably worried it might give their victims ideas
Sounds like GoT
I'm sorry but I didn't want no ninja baby lol
Maybe you just don't like Dune
Understanding what works in a book wouldn't work in a movie isn't hating Dune
Somehow both previous adaptations had the courage to at least attempt to make Frank Herbert's story work
It's ok to not like Frank Herbert's story but it's provably not literally unfilmable.
adaptations should change the things that won't work on screen
Read what I just wrote moron, it already worked twice on screen, Denis must be a really shit director if he can't achieve what was already possible in 1984 and in 2000 with far less money.
No it didn't lol. The Lynch Alia looks stupid as I'm sure the other adaptation does as well
This. The bizarre aspects of Dune are a core part of its identity. Fricking Villanova's films are going to ruin this for all eternity
meant for
I watched the Lymch version finally after hearing that it has the weirdness of the books but no. It's just poorly made with lines from the book thrown in verbatim when they remember what was being adapted.
Liking one thing doesn't mean you have to blindly enjoy everything about it.
>Liking one thing doesn't mean you have to blindly enjoy everything about it.
I dont want to get semantic,but it really does mean that.
thats why they call it being a fanatic or a "fan" of something.
What are you even talking about. I loved the movies but I can recognize its flaws, so does that mean I don't like it?
If you are a real fan you overlook those errors and enjoy the whole picture.
She's not really a ninja baby. That's just been a forced meme by Villeneuve defenders. In reality, Alia is just aware and communicates like an adult, despite being a toddler. In her confrontation with the Baron, the latter grabs her (probably with the hopes of molesting her, the gross pedophile that he is), and she gets him with a poison needle. Later on, she wanders the battlefield, slitting throats of wounded enemy fighters.
lynch alia scene + yoda jumping around cgi *chef's kiss*
Let's cut to the chase, you lot just wanted to see a e-girl onscreen, right
Please can I just nibble on his cute ass cheeks
Fellas, I want a third stage guild navigator waifu. I want to take her out of her spice tank and cuddle, and act as her spine and help her keep balance since walking is so different than swimming with fishlike appendages for feet.
YOU ARE TRANSPARENT, ANON
I SEE MANY THINGS
I SEE LUST WITHIN LUST
Frick off Edric, I wanna see spice enhanced breasts.
Jessica wanted for her Duke to be alive duh.
>I wanna see spice enhanced breasts
there is a way...
Can someone let me know what Fayd did that was so different than Batista? I was extremely confused by how the Mutts were able to overpower these technological giants for half the movie.
The one thing I don't understand is why Jessica confronts the Reverend Mother like they're enemies. Surely, she let the Duke be murdered, but they also laid a path for Paul to become the messiah
>you will never be a bald harkonnen soldier living under the glorious black sun with your bros
Just shave your head and eyebrows bro
What about that cool spider
it was the asian guy's wife
For real? That would be really cool actually
It’s just a theory
Shame, but it makes some sense, and it makes the whole thing so much darker
Achievable natty?
I could have feyds body but I drink and dont lift to nerf myself so thered still be ladies left for you anons
Nope
Thought not. Now I don't need to bother.
You can still get a better shape though
Why is he bald when the book describes him as having long curly black hair?
So you can tell they're villains
because the bald look is cooler, chud.
I have a confession. I like Chani. I think she’s cute. I wish i could kiss her on top of a big D U N C
Good morning sir!
What are the best training regimes to get his body so I can Feydmaxx?
Feyd bulge
And ass
Thanos' delivery of the young pup lines was shit compared to Patrick Stewart's. Like why drop stuff from the first film like Alia and Chani not being a c**t but then include some stuff like that line and have it be 1000x worse.
Duncan Idaho was nothing impressive in the movies and yet he was able to kill several Sardukar.