American Dad showed you can do it without making every character a piece of shit.
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Why are all characters in this show awful?
American Dad showed you can do it without making every character a piece of shit.
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The cutaway gags are all the braindead fans of Family Guy care about, what the actual cast does outside them is completely meaningless, might as well make the Griffins be as abhorrent as possible for cheap insane gags.
My favorite cutaway gag was one that got cut(away) from season 5. It involved Peter going to see Elaine Stritch on Broadway.
>she wasn't even dead yet and they did her like that
I laughed like fricking mad when I first saw it. Lemme see if I can find it online.
I love Elaine Stritch. I wonder if she ever saw that and, if so, what she thought of it.
Goddamn, these are hilarious. I miss Family Guy.
Family Guy never left, anon. Family Guy will always be around to make you laugh and cry.
Since they stopped airing it on Adult Swim I haven't seen it in ages.
ditto
still fricking hilarious that [as] ended the show's run with the "Stewie gets pregnant" episode
Because cruelty=comedy
We got a Tom & Jerry expert in our hands it seems. Guess what, people are more eager to laugh at the funny cartoon cat and the mouse to be mean to each other, not the cartoon family who are somehow still together, there are perception filters many people just can't get rid off, that is they can't laugh at a families being cruel to each other.
There's a limit for that, America Dad has the Smiths often pull some mean shit to each other, but the writers know it has to have a limit to just how insane it can get, and they are consistently showing moments where the Smiths love each other.
Meanwhile Family Guy has crossed all lines, the Griffins might as well be actively working their damn hardest to destroy each other, and there's zero balance with any genuine moments of family bonding.
Road House.
probably to provide some differentiation so they aren't exactly the same show?
american dad already did all the political stuff they wanted to do seasons ago. at this point both shows feel like they're in a '"frick it, please cancel us" phase phase but they still have different identities
It's common in adult shows now because writing characters with personalities and nuance is harder than just writing over the top edgy jokes and half assing a deep moment or too. Look at simpsons, it was the king of having zanny characters but making you feel for them and understand why they did what they did in the show. Bart was a lil shit and mischevious, but we knew under that he wanted to be cared for like lisa and acknowledged. Same with homer he was what peter was but we could forgive it as he actually had a heart and would give up his happiness for his families and he had real struggles. Really it's mostly that the cutaway format is a easy way out of having to use a full 20-24mins of content.
It's why I never co-sign family guy was ever that good, it was average at best because it was a poor knock off of a great show. The reason stuff like Ted and AD work is because Seth is using his own ideas and can focus on comedy first over character. Also he learned how to mute it by making the family dynamics/character dynamics toxic from the jump. The smiths are a very unstable and unhealthy family but we know that by ep 1 and it still works because they usually do things that fit their character and world views. It's not just FG but just a weird obsession with edgy/safe edgy humor in animation it's like they feel the only way to let you know this isn't FOP or Spongebob is by swearing every five seconds or having some grotesque sex scene or torture porn level gore.
>comedy first over character
But that's Family Guy. Ted and American Dad work because the heart and consistent character dynamics take greater priority. Even then, early FG still shared that same healthy balance between comedy and heart.
Season 2 when?
I wouldn't be disappointed if never. It's fine but nothing I want more of.
high fructose corn syrup has really fricked humans up
look how ugly everyone on tv is now
Whatchu mean? The cousin was a qt
No they fricking don't
Yes they fricking DO
I don't know or care about Ted enough to have an opinion but comparatively I think the Smiths care about each other way more than the Griffins do.
>just writing over the top edgy jokes
>comedy first over character
It's these two things, or at least, this was true for Family Guy for a very, very long time. The characters had no consistent personalities, they tended to return to some cheap one-dimensional trait but to make a cheap laugh work those could change, so Peter might be decent for one scene and then in the next be a raging rapist pedophile homicidal psychopath for a cheap laffo-o. Nobody gives the slightest shit about plot or the characters, at least for years, it was all just about a bunch of totally disconnected cutaway gags you could do with any random characters in any random order. But yes this was what people wanted, it's been very successful.
Also yes, sometimes new writers come in (recently or even a while ago) and try to change things up, some newer episodes try to change this, but for the most part, that's how it's been.
They are awful just because the show's humor is mostly just shock and gore and sex and swearing humor, all that it has is being edgy.
I think that I don't enjoy this show because it's not edgy at all after 20 fricking years of the same fricking thing over and over again. There's no shock at all anymore. It's just tedious and dull now. The point is now moot. All adult animation now rips off family guy. There's no edge and no shock at all to Family Guy. The humor is older than dirt. It's completely safe and lame and boring.
As I saw someone coin about Hazbin hotel, it's what you'd call safe edgy. As you said originally it worked because of how people were at the time, it did what Seth and co wanted made older people/parents clutch their pearls. The kids went to it because well my parents don't like it and "oh they swear and have sex" but as you said it's basically the syndrome thing "when everyone is edgy no one is".
I feel Family guy is one of those shows Idk who watches it, but probably kids. I haven't watched in years now out side of clips I see online. I feel the series lost me really after S5ish. But it's definitely a it's on in the background show and as I said their weren't many adult animated shows so you just kind of watched it as a kid and teen.
As you said I mean it's still around so must be doing something right but something can still be on and terrible. I mean modern simpsons, the office and spongebob etc, many shows and series went on way longer than they should have be cause of inital success and loyal fan simpery. Also yeah in the end of the day I question if family guy was ever even that funny in retrospect, as you said it was always kind of basic but I feel at least in the early seasons they tried to do more than just cringe basic shock humor. Like now you have brian and stewie having kids and full blown making out with no real joke involved. Peter just does insert Zanny thing with no real rhyme or reason. feels like it's all just building up to the next shock humor scene or cutaway.
>The characters had no consistent personalities
This bothers me. There is a certain satisfaction see characters get developed, even if it's comedy.
Classical Simpsons writers knew this, which is why they bothered to give so much character to side characters.
Arguably a joke is always funnier when follows pre-established rules of the world.
Because it's funny.
Is it?
It certainly is!
Literally everyone in American Dad is terrible. It's what makes it funny
This. It's baffling people still compare American Dad and Family Guy as if it supports their argument. Both families have done awful acts for the sake of humor.
As for Family Guy itself, the latest season has given Meg more appreciation in a few episodes. Snapple Decision showcased Lois's motherly side, not making fun of Meg once. These characters can still have their positive moments shine to this day.
This is just the "early family guy was better" mentality again, which is tiring to see.
Nope, everyone in American Dad CAN be terrible people, everyone in Family Guy ARE terrible people, that's the difference.
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what the frick does this even mean.
To this day, I’m still not sure if the people repeating this meme mean it in a positive or negative way. Do they WANT theatrical film adaptations to look like a regular episode? There's a reason why we have different expectations for feature animation and TV cartoons.
why is he so hot goddammit
the baby?
I've always wanted to get fricked by Brian honestly.
It’s the voice, isn’t it?[spoiler]
American Dad characters can be just as awful.
"Can be" is the key phrasing, there’s countless decent character dynamics in American Dad showing the Smiths are a tight family before they start shooting, maiming, insulting each other. Family Guy skips all that and keeps everyone on constant piece of shit mode.
Family Guy would have just been another family sitcom for the pile if it stayed the way it was in the early episodes. The characters all being buttholes makes it stand out.
Stand out as a steaming pile of trash? The fact Family Guy’s "popularity" today amounts to the millions of cutaway gags compilations on TikTok should tell anyone how a memetic mutation of Family Guy that is popular, not the show or the characters themselves anymore. Look at Peter on Fortnite, it’s a fricking meme.
>b-but you're not popular in the RIGHT way! i-it doesn’t count!
Popular is popular. Family Guy writers found out what works for them and stuck with it, to great success and crazy longevity. Fricking Simpsons is less relevant now.
>Fricking Simpsons is less relevant now
I've definitely noticed that for the past few years. Not even just Fortnite, but people still talk about the current seasons.
I haven't seen as much traction with Simpsons. And Bob's Burgers, almost nothing after the movie.
Simpsons is still going strong since it still gets renewals, but does nothing to garner any attention like Family Guy, unless it's just some remembrance to the much older seasons.
>almost nothing after the movie
or BEFORE the movie!
Seriously, who is still watching Bob's Burgers these days? Not even Tumblr/Twitter gushes about it like before.
Cat ladies and wine aunts.
They can't think of real jokes so they just use violence, gore, shock humor and domestice abuse which takes no effort.
Peter is literally a homocidial mass murderer and pedophile at this point.
haven't they toned down the characters lately, quagmire is less sex pest and more cat/voice of reason person now.
Better asked, why are zoomers obsessed with this show and unironically believe it's good?
TikTok cutaway gag compilations, not a single zoomer has watched an actual episode of Family Guy.
POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER
chin balls
Has Family Guy ever made a reference to Phineas and Ferb?
why would they?
Twice, actually.
Really?
No.
Yes. Stewie mentioned the show in the Season 9 episode "The Big Bang Theory" on the DVD version. And Chris wrote an erotic fanfiction in Season 18's finale.
Family Guy references some random shit. Like the time Peter started singing the CatDog theme song while in a drunken stupor
The current Griffins are actually nicer than the current Smiths. Feels like half of every new AD episode follows the same formula
>Stan hates *family member* because *moronic reason* and needs to learn a lesson so they're all happy at the end
early american dad was my favorite show sucks its like that now
American Dad became less about political snark and comedy and more about just wacky sitcom hijinks.
I don't even hate AD but it's weird to see fans pretend it's some wholesome family show. At times it feels like the entire family is a group of Peter Griffins to each other so you don't notice it
I feel it's validation. I often see American Dad threads where fans boast about how much better it is than Family Guy Just gets repetitive.
American Dad lost a lot of luster when one of the creators left when it moved to TBS.
I was wondering why it felt so off in recent years. A shame because I loved it during the FOX era. I just cannot get into the TBS era no matter how hard I try.
What's he been up to since then?
No idea.
what ever are you talking about, anon
what the frick is THAT
>"Stan refuses to get Steve a pet dog, but Francine buys him one anyway. But when the dog is injured and winds up on life support, Stan is willing to go to outrageous lengths to keep it alive."
IMDB synopsis written by a moron who doesn't know you can't start a sentence with but
it's easily one of the worst episodes in the show
Isn't there an entire episode of American Dad about Stan repeatedly beating the shit out of Steve?
STELIOS
STELIOS KONTOS
That's the thing, that episode highlight how Family Guy and American Dad are different.
Stan becomes Steve's bully to teach him that he must man up. He literally says this. It's misguided but at least it has good intentions.
>OP hasn't seen this episode
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia does it and you people are ready to crawl in their buttholes
Why is Peter such a bully?
Not his fault. Lois is very bullyable.
American Dad isn’t as funny
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
At this point, I'm pretty sure the only people who enjoy Family Guy anymore are ironic contrarian memesters that only watch random clips on YouTube
I will never understand how people can't enjoy it. My sister fricking hates it.
She just doesn't get it
Family Guy thread?